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dave May 2nd 09 01:15 PM

SPECIAL: Religion turns people into Sadists
 
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/religion.torture/

Atheists least supportive of torture; evangelicals, on the other hand...

[email protected] May 2nd 09 02:31 PM

SPECIAL: Religion turns people into Sadists
 
On May 2, 8:15 am, dave wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/religion.torture/

Atheists least supportive of torture; evangelicals, on the other hand...


I'm an athiest and have no problems with torture.

Telamon May 2nd 09 09:10 PM

SPECIAL: Religion turns people into Sadists
 
In article
,
wrote:

On May 2, 8:15 am, dave wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/religion.torture/

Atheists least supportive of torture; evangelicals, on the other hand...


I'm an athiest and have no problems with torture.


Well have a go at it then. When will we be able to tune into NPR so we
can hear your screams? Maybe Dave can join you in a duet.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

none May 15th 09 08:32 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi[D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
~ RHF wrote:


What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
.


Why does it matter? She's not the one being accused of war crimes.
You're just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.

~ RHF May 15th 09 09:46 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi[D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
On May 14, 4:14*am, "~ RHF" wrote:
On May 2, 2:56*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:



On May 2, 5:15*am, dave wrote:


http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/religion.torture/


Atheists least supportive oftorture; evangelicals, on the other hand....


Dave here is a simple question :
Would "You"TortureA Terrorist To Save The Lives
Of Your Family and Loved Ones ?


Not Talking About Bush/Obama.


Not Talking About US Military/CIA/FBI.


Not Talking About The Fedral/State/Local Authorities.


Dave I Am Talking About You : Just You {Dave}
An The Lives And Safety Of Your Family.


Again Dave Here Is The Question :
Would "You" {Dave}TortureA Terrorist To Save
The Lives Of Your Family and Loved Ones ?


Dave as for "Me"RHFthat Answer is Simple
Yes I Would & Yes I Could & Yes I Will [.]


because after all - i am only human and
they are my family and loved ones ~RHF
*.
*.


Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} :
What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
*.
Note - EITs = Enhanced Interrogation Techniques
*.http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/258258
*.http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22348.html
*.http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...-pull-pelosi-i....
*.
Prez Obama's {Rahm Emanuel} Plan To Get
Rid of Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] and to Replace
Her With One of His Own Is Working

Note Harry Reid [D-NV] has aligned himself
with the O-Bomb-Sterİ against Pelosi.

The Obama-Speakersİ are all muttering
What Did Nancy Pelosi Know . . .
and When Did She Know It . . .
*.
-ps- nancy yes botox injections can be torture
*.
*.


Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Now Accuses CIA of Lying
To Her in the Torture Timeline
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MN7U17KJC2.DTL

Brenda Ann May 16th 09 12:37 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 

"none" ""root\"@(none)" wrote in message
...
~ RHF wrote:


What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
.


Why does it matter? She's not the one being accused of war crimes. You're
just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.


If she knew and didn't say anything, then she is just as guilty as they are.
And for the record, a crime is a crime, regardless of motive.



Telamon May 16th 09 12:44 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
In article ,
none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:

~ RHF wrote:

Why Won't Obama-Regimeİ and the Democrats
in the US Congress Release All the CIA Briefing
Files and Tell the American People The Whole
Truth ? - About :

* What Pelosi and the US Congress Knew ? and

* When Pelosi and the US Congress Knew It ?
.
Why Is The American Public Only Getting Half-Truths ?

Is the so-called Truth Commission
-really-nothing-more-than- The Truth Omission ?

What Is The Obama-Regimeİ Hiding ?

Were Terrorists Tortured ?

Were in-fact American Citizens Lives Saved ?

american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
.
.

WTF has Nancy Pelosi got to do with Cheney and Condi torturing people?


What politicians do best and that's lie every time they open their
mouths. She claims she did not know or understand how the terrorists
were being interrogated and has called the CIA congressional debriefers
liars. How she continues on as senate majority leader now is beyond me.

She a miserable senator and not a leader in any sense on the word.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon May 16th 09 12:46 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
In article ,
none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:

~ RHF wrote:


What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
.


Why does it matter? She's not the one being accused of war crimes.
You're just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.


If you think the "Bushies" as you call them did something wrong then she
is complicit in what occurred.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave May 16th 09 02:37 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi[D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
Brenda Ann wrote:
"none" ""root\"@(none)" wrote in message
...
~ RHF wrote:

What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
.

Why does it matter? She's not the one being accused of war crimes. You're
just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.


If she knew and didn't say anything, then she is just as guilty as they are.
And for the record, a crime is a crime, regardless of motive.

She was not allowed to say anything. She would have just been left
twisting in the wind if she'd spoken up alone. I understand the JBL
lady wrote a "memo to self" or some equally cowardly bull****.

Ms. Pelosi is worthless. The real criminals Yoo, Addington, Biby [sic],
Cheney, etc. are the ones to focus on.

dave May 16th 09 02:38 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi[D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
Telamon wrote:

.

WTF has Nancy Pelosi got to do with Cheney and Condi torturing people?


What politicians do best and that's lie every time they open their
mouths. She claims she did not know or understand how the terrorists
were being interrogated and has called the CIA congressional debriefers
liars. How she continues on as senate majority leader now is beyond me.

She a miserable senator and not a leader in any sense on the word.


She is a US Representative. She is Speaker of the House and 3rd in
presidential succession.

dave May 16th 09 02:39 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi[D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:

~ RHF wrote:

What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
.

Why does it matter? She's not the one being accused of war crimes.
You're just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.


If you think the "Bushies" as you call them did something wrong then she
is complicit in what occurred.


Fine. She is an accessory after the fact. Big whoop. Cheney is a
megalomaniac war criminal.

Telamon May 16th 09 05:04 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:

.
WTF has Nancy Pelosi got to do with Cheney and Condi torturing people?


What politicians do best and that's lie every time they open their
mouths. She claims she did not know or understand how the terrorists
were being interrogated and has called the CIA congressional debriefers
liars. How she continues on as senate majority leader now is beyond me.

She a miserable senator and not a leader in any sense on the word.


She is a US Representative. She is Speaker of the House and 3rd in
presidential succession.


If she had any sense, which she doesn't, she would step down.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon May 16th 09 05:06 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:

~ RHF wrote:

What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
.
Why does it matter? She's not the one being accused of war crimes.
You're just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.


If you think the "Bushies" as you call them did something wrong then she
is complicit in what occurred.


Fine. She is an accessory after the fact. Big whoop. Cheney is a
megalomaniac war criminal.


Actually, she was an accessory durning the fact so she is an accomplice.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave May 16th 09 01:28 PM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi[D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
Telamon wrote:

megalomaniac war criminal.


Actually, she was an accessory durning the fact so she is an accomplice.


No. The CIA timeline indicates that the EIT were started in the summer
of 2002 on Zubayda, and claim Rep. Pelosi was first notified of the EIT
in September.

Regardless, as far as I'm concerned she can go on trial with the rest of
them. If we sweep this under the rug the USA will never have any moral
authority again.

~ RHF May 16th 09 09:42 PM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi[D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
On May 15, 4:37*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"none" ""root\"@(none)" wrote in message

...

~ RHF wrote:


What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
*.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
*.


- - Why does it matter?
-*She's not the one being accused of war crimes.
- You're just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.

- If she knew and didn't say anything,
- then she is just as guilty as they are.
- And for the record, a crime is a crime,
- regardless of motive.

BAD is Right :
An 'Accessory' {Accomplice} To A Felony Is
Also Chargeable and Can Be Found Guilty
For That Felony Under US Feredal Law and
Most State Laws.

More Importantly for a Truth Commission to be
a real Truth Commission : It must Expose and
Tell the Whole Truth : Not just a one-sided
Political Half-Truth {Lie}

So the Questions Remains . . .
What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}

~ RHF May 16th 09 09:50 PM

(OT) : Will It Be A "Truth Commission" ? -or- Political VendettaAgainst Your Political Enemies ?
 
On May 15, 6:37*pm, dave wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"none" ""root\"@(none)" wrote in message
m...
~ RHF wrote:


What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
*.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
*.
Why does it matter? *She's not the one being accused of war crimes. You're
just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.


If she knew and didn't say anything, then she is just as guilty as they are.
And for the record, a crime is a crime, regardless of motive.


She was not allowed to say anything. *She would have just been left
twisting in the wind if she'd spoken up alone. *I understand the JBL
lady wrote a "memo to self" or some equally cowardly bull****.

- Ms. Pelosi is worthless.
-*The real criminals Yoo, Addington, Biby [sic],
- Cheney, etc. are the ones to focus on.

Dave for a Truth Commission to be a Truth Commission
It Must Focus on The Truth [All the Facts] .

Dave when you list a 'select' List of Individuals by Name :
You show that you are Not Interested In The Truth -but-
In a Political Vendetta Against Your Political Enemies.

the truth is the truth is the truth ~ RHF

~ RHF May 16th 09 09:53 PM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- Cheney Is A Megalomaniac War Criminal.
 
On May 15, 6:39*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:


~ RHF wrote:


What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
*.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
*.
Why does it matter? *She's not the one being accused of war crimes.
You're just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.


If you think the "Bushies" as you call them did something wrong then she
is complicit in what occurred.


Fine. *She is an accessory after the fact. *Big whoop. *


- Cheney is a megalomaniac war criminal.

Dave -proclaims- Cheney Is A Megalomaniac War Criminal.

Dave you are such a good little Obama-Speakerİ ~ RHF

[email protected] May 17th 09 01:58 AM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- Cheney Is A Megalomaniac War Criminal.
 
On Sat, 16 May 2009 13:53:21 -0700 (PDT), "~ RHF"
wrote:

On May 15, 6:39*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:


~ RHF wrote:


What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
*.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
*.
Why does it matter? *She's not the one being accused of war crimes.
You're just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.


If you think the "Bushies" as you call them did something wrong then she
is complicit in what occurred.


Fine. *She is an accessory after the fact. *Big whoop. *


- Cheney is a megalomaniac war criminal.

Dave -proclaims- Cheney Is A Megalomaniac War Criminal.

Dave you are such a good little Obama-Speakerİ ~ RHF
.

Bad feelings about Cheney does not equate to being a shill for Obama.

N9NEO[_2_] May 18th 09 04:33 AM

(OT) : Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding} - What Did Nancy Pelosi[D-CA] Know ? and When Did She Know It ?
 
On May 15, 9:38*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
*.
WTF has Nancy Pelosi got to do with Cheney and Condi torturing people?


What politicians do best and that's lie every time they open their
mouths. She claims she did not know or understand how the terrorists
were being interrogated and has called the CIA congressional debriefers
liars. How she continues on as senate majority leader now is beyond me.


She a miserable senator and not a leader in any sense on the word.


She is a US Representative. *She is Speaker of the House and 3rd in
presidential succession.


If she is 3rd in succession then I will pray to Jesus to make her
president right away!

Regards,
NEO

~ RHF May 18th 09 01:43 PM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- Cheney Is A Megalomaniac War Criminal.
 
On May 16, 5:58*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 13:53:21 -0700 (PDT), "~ RHF"



wrote:
On May 15, 6:39*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:


~ RHF wrote:


What Did Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] Know ?
and When Did She Know It ?
=WRT= Torture "EIT"s {Waterboarding}
*.
american citizens' have the right to the 'truth' ~ RHF
*.
Why does it matter? *She's not the one being accused of war crimes.
You're just trying to take the spotlight off the Bushies.


If you think the "Bushies" as you call them did something wrong then she
is complicit in what occurred.


Fine. *She is an accessory after the fact. *Big whoop. *


- - - Cheney is a megalomaniac war criminal.

- - Dave -proclaims- Cheney Is A Megalomaniac War Criminal.
- -
- - Dave you are such a good little Obama-Speakerİ ~ RHF

- Bad feelings about Cheney does not equate to being a shill for
Obama.

GH - No it just 'equates' to Dave being "Dave" ~ RHF

~ RHF May 21st 09 05:23 AM

(OT) : Prez Obama's {Rahm Emanuel} Planning To Dump Nancy Pelosi[D-CA] and to Replace Her With Someone of His Own Is Choosing
 
On May 17, 8:33*pm, N9NEO wrote:
On May 15, 9:38*pm, dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
*.
WTF has NancyPelosigot to do with Cheney and Condi torturing people?


What politicians do best and that's lie every time they open their
mouths. She claims she did not know or understand how the terrorists
were being interrogated and has called the CIA congressional debriefers
liars. How she continues on as senate majority leader now is beyond me.


She a miserable senator and not a leader in any sense on the word.


- - She is a US Representative.
- - She is Speaker of the House
- - and 3rd in presidential succession.

- If she is 3rd in succession
- then I will pray to Jesus to make her president right away!
-
- Regards,
- NEO

The rumors are going around in Democrat Party
circles that Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] must go.

dave May 21st 09 12:43 PM

(OT) : Prez Obama's {Rahm Emanuel} Planning To Dump Nancy Pelosi[D-CA] and to Replace Her With Someone of His Own Is Choosing
 
~ RHF wrote:


The rumors are going around in Democrat Party
circles that Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] must go.
.


So you admit that a war crime was committed? If not, what are you tring
to imply?

Mr. Panetta did not contradict Rep. Pelosi. Read what he said.

[email protected] May 22nd 09 01:04 AM

(OT) : Prez Obama's {Rahm Emanuel} Planning To Dump NancyPelos...
 
Grand JURIES CITE Obama For INELIGIBILITY, TREASON.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=264858

The Clown Show has started on TLC channel.American Chopper.
Mikey really has a girlfriend? Who would have thunk it?
cuhulin


~ RHF May 22nd 09 12:03 PM

(OT) : Prez Obama - Send Bush & Cheney & Pelosi to GitMo !
 
On May 21, 4:43*am, dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:

The rumors are going around in Democrat Party
circles that Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] must go.
*.


So you admit that a war crime was committed? *If not, what are you tring
to imply?

Mr. Panetta did not contradict Rep. Pelosi. *Read what he said.


Send Bush & Cheney & Pelosi to GitMo !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitmo
for Acts of Torture on the Peace Loving
Islam-O-Fascist Terrorist.

Oops The O-Bomb-Sterİ is 'closing' GitMo Down.
but, But. BUT ! - The US Congress Won't Fund
the Closing-Down of GitMo without a place to
Dump Islam-O-Fascist Terrorist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitmo

The Obama-Regimeİ Bringing Islam-O-Fascist
Terrorists to American {a Neighborhood Near You}.

ok, Ok. OK !
Send Bush & Cheney & Pelosi to The Hague ICC
as War Criminals for Acts of Torture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...Criminal_Court

oops, Oops. OOPS !
No One at The Hague "International Criminal Court"
[ICC] has Indicted Bush & Cheney & Pelosi as War
Criminals for Acts of Torture on the Detainees* at GitMo

* Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists

QUESTION - Why Hasn't the Obama-Regimeİ
Joined {Signed-On-To} the "International Criminal Court"
[ICC] at The Hague ? --- Isn't the O-Bomb-Sterİ for
Justice and International Law ?


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