On May 3, 7:04*pm, wrote:

There were no debates in Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or dozens of
other countries where torture actually does take place. *In sharp
contrast, the torture enjoyed by families such as the Hussein family
of Iraq, was a matter of pure impulsive indulgence and spectacle.
There was little or no notion of protecting a public sphere in Iraq.
The heads of Iraqi victims were regularly posted outside the homes of
victim's families after these spectacles were complete.

There was no debate here either. The perps hid behind secrecy and did
their level best to prevent we, the people, from ever learning about
the torture (in at least one comprehensively documented case, totally
innocent person tortured to death by the US.) Lying creeps Cheney
and Bush, Rumsfeldt, et. al. painted the embarassing actions at Abu
Grahib as the actions of a few "bad apples", and let them go to prison
for following their Administration's orders. What can you say about
these dishonorable men except they are liars and criminals?

As far as "they did it!" as a defense for committing a crime, that's
just childish. To follow Obamasux's idiotic logic, if radical
religious nuts cut off the head of an American, then we ought to start
capturing civilians and killing them too.
I'm sure the next step is "Well, the Nazis did it, so we can too."
Bleh. What a childish morally deficient idiot this Obamasux is.