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Mike wrote:

On May 13, 2:58?pm, dxAce wrote:
Mike wrote:
On May 13, 2:29 pm, bvallely wrote:
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So, when healthcare is rationed, and treatment is denied, all you have
to offer is your Marxist rants?

More will have coverage than do now. Remember right now, the estimate
is that 40 million have no coverage at all. That's the ultimate denial
of treatment. You can still pay for extra coverage if you are afraid
of rationing. The rich won't have to worry about rationing because
they can afford to pay cash.

The rationing would only apply to people receiving experimental
surgeries and who will rely on the gov't program. It's not as if
private heath care will be abolished.

How silly.

Silly is some dumbass dufus, such as yourself, once claiming to have a PhD!

You don't know jack, boy.- Hide quoted text -

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Hey, Steve, show us all the "jack" you know! Explain how universal
health coverage would result in less people receiving medical care
than now.

I got a better idea. You explain to me why I'm responsible for someone
else's health care. I looked in the constitution and I could not find an
answer there. Maybe you could point it out to me.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:


I got a better idea. You explain to me why I'm responsible for someone
else's health care. I looked in the constitution and I could not find an
answer there. Maybe you could point it out to me.


Why am I responsible for your roads? Why should I have to pay for your
military?

In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


I got a better idea. You explain to me why I'm responsible for someone
else's health care. I looked in the constitution and I could not find an
answer there. Maybe you could point it out to me.


Why am I responsible for your roads? Why should I have to pay for your
military?

We all use the roads and we all benefit from the common defense of the
country. The constitution provides for that. What it does not provide
for is the taking of one man's wealth and giving it to another.

This is the only country where our rights come from God not government
or man. Government, a man as ruler, or men as a committee do not have
the right to redistribute wealth as they deem fit for any reason that
can be thought of OR we are not free and are under the tyranny of said
government, a ruler, or group of men. If you can't see this then go live
in any other country on the world and have it their way.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:

I got a better idea. You explain to me why I'm responsible for someone
else's health care. I looked in the constitution and I could not find an
answer there. Maybe you could point it out to me.

Why am I responsible for your roads? Why should I have to pay for your
military?

We all use the roads and we all benefit from the common defense of the
country. The constitution provides for that. What it does not provide
for is the taking of one man's wealth and giving it to another.

This is the only country where our rights come from God not government
or man. Government, a man as ruler, or men as a committee do not have
the right to redistribute wealth as they deem fit for any reason that
can be thought of OR we are not free and are under the tyranny of said
government, a ruler, or group of men. If you can't see this then go live
in any other country on the world and have it their way.


There is no such thing as God. It is childish to believe otherwise.

It is also childish and immoral to support a war machine rationale of
common defense and not apply the same kind of logic to using the might
of the nation to protect the health of its citizens, especially when
every other country in the world does it.

In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:

I got a better idea. You explain to me why I'm responsible for someone
else's health care. I looked in the constitution and I could not find an
answer there. Maybe you could point it out to me.

Why am I responsible for your roads? Why should I have to pay for your
military?

We all use the roads and we all benefit from the common defense of the
country. The constitution provides for that. What it does not provide
for is the taking of one man's wealth and giving it to another.

This is the only country where our rights come from God not government
or man. Government, a man as ruler, or men as a committee do not have
the right to redistribute wealth as they deem fit for any reason that
can be thought of OR we are not free and are under the tyranny of said
government, a ruler, or group of men. If you can't see this then go live
in any other country on the world and have it their way.


There is no such thing as God. It is childish to believe otherwise.

Reality is just the opposite. There is a God and there is a spiritual
side to you.

It is also childish and immoral to support a war machine rationale of
common defense and not apply the same kind of logic to using the might
of the nation to protect the health of its citizens, especially when
every other country in the world does it.

It is childish to think that in this world you will be left alone.
Defense is something no person can ignore and continue to live.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:


There is no such thing as God. It is childish to believe otherwise.

Reality is just the opposite. There is a God and there is a spiritual
side to you.


It is childish to think that in this world you will be left alone.
Defense is something no person can ignore and continue to live.


I have faith, you obviously don't.

Gandhi, MLK, Malcom X, and Nelson Mandella are my idols. Not a
fictitious cloud being.

In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


There is no such thing as God. It is childish to believe otherwise.

Reality is just the opposite. There is a God and there is a spiritual
side to you.


It is childish to think that in this world you will be left alone.
Defense is something no person can ignore and continue to live.


I have faith, you obviously don't.

Gandhi, MLK, Malcom X, and Nelson Mandella are my idols. Not a
fictitious cloud being.

I'll put my faith in the being that made us all rather than men.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On May 15, 6:33*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:

There is no such thing as God. *It is childish to believe otherwise.

Reality is just the opposite. There is a God and there is a spiritual
side to you.

It is childish to think that in this world you will be left alone.
Defense is something no person can ignore and continue to live.

- I have faith, you obviously don't.
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- Gandhi, MLK, Malcom X, and Nelson Mandella are my idols.

So Dave You Worship {Human} Idols

-ps- You forgot to add the New and Improved
"Massiah" the Savior of the Socialist Masses
Barack 'The Almight' Obama to you List of Human Idols.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RGcb7alSk0
Our Obama Is An Awesome President of All
He Reigns From The White House High Above