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Eduardo - help me get this straight.....
David Eduardo wrote:
"friend's ipod with commercials" wrote in message ... On May 17, 1:37 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Heck, I can't recall exactly. One would have to search the archives. Someone has archived The Well? Cool. Actually Am NewsTalkers can survive very well, but it means actually being a local community radio station! Doesn't mean you can't have Glen Beck, it means being more than a repeater of national news pretending to be local. It means investing in talent again, providing real local news. It also means serving your niche very well, adults 35+ WIBC, KTAR, KIRO, KSL, WTOP. Very localized AM news talkers or news outlets that have moved to FM (or are transitioning by simulcast) and seen the ratings in 35-54, the only salable part of the audience, grown immensely. 35-54 will not listen, for the most part, to AM. Radio lost the digital war to the internet and Ipods. Radio doesn't matter to kids anymore, like it did when you and I grew up. Other devices have replaced radio. That would be why 93% to 95% of persons in the youth demos (12-17, 18-24) use radio weekly? For how long? |
Eduardo - help me get this straight.....
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"David Eduardo" wrote: SNIP The real issue is that AM, on today's receivers and in today's noisy environment, is dying and is very old technology. I disagree with this. For the public good, so that there is reliable communications durning disaster events, the public has to rely on simple proven technology. AM receivers are everywhere as portables, table radios, and in cars. It is low cost, low tech, and everywhere. I don't think AMBCB is going to go away anytime soon. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Eduardo - help me get this straight.....
On 05/17/09 16:27, Telamon wrote:
In , "David wrote: SNIP The real issue is that AM, on today's receivers and in today's noisy environment, is dying and is very old technology. I disagree with this. For the public good, so that there is reliable communications durning disaster events, the public has to rely on simple proven technology. AM receivers are everywhere as portables, table radios, and in cars. It is low cost, low tech, and everywhere. Aviation radios are AM radios. |
Eduardo - help me get this straight.....
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: SNIP The real issue is that AM, on today's receivers and in today's noisy environment, is dying and is very old technology. I disagree with this. For the public good, so that there is reliable communications durning disaster events, the public has to rely on simple proven technology. AM receivers are everywhere as portables, table radios, and in cars. It is low cost, low tech, and everywhere. I don't think AMBCB is going to go away anytime soon. Manufacturers are starting to realize that the AM band is not necessary in multifuncition devices, and we are starting to see FM only devices, particularly in the areas of media players, iPod and iPhone docks (mine has FM only), etc. Granted, there are lots of radios out there... but most people under 30 or 40 would not even think of going to AM in an emergency, since they have no familiarity with AM or what goes on there... and with news and talk stations moving rapidly to FM, there will be no service of value left there in most markets. |
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"D. Peter Maus" wrote: On 05/17/09 16:27, Telamon wrote: In , "David wrote: SNIP The real issue is that AM, on today's receivers and in today's noisy environment, is dying and is very old technology. I disagree with this. For the public good, so that there is reliable communications durning disaster events, the public has to rely on simple proven technology. AM receivers are everywhere as portables, table radios, and in cars. It is low cost, low tech, and everywhere. Aviation radios are AM radios. Yes. Beacons, SW in AM voice mode, UHF in AM voice mode. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: SNIP The real issue is that AM, on today's receivers and in today's noisy environment, is dying and is very old technology. I disagree with this. For the public good, so that there is reliable communications durning disaster events, the public has to rely on simple proven technology. AM receivers are everywhere as portables, table radios, and in cars. It is low cost, low tech, and everywhere. I don't think AMBCB is going to go away anytime soon. Manufacturers are starting to realize that the AM band is not necessary in multifuncition devices, and we are starting to see FM only devices, particularly in the areas of media players, iPod and iPhone docks (mine has FM only), etc. I don't think that is the reason. It is easier to implement FM because it is in the range of 87 to 107 MHz. The digital noise is harder to eliminate low frequency AM and loop type antennas are bulkier so if you want to add radio FM is the easier way to go. Granted, there are lots of radios out there... but most people under 30 or 40 would not even think of going to AM in an emergency, since they have no familiarity with AM or what goes on there... and with news and talk stations moving rapidly to FM, there will be no service of value left there in most markets. AMBCB radios are everywhere. Everyone is familiar with them even if they don't normally used them. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "dave" wrote in message ... dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: Again, "Hispanic" is a culture, not a race. "Hispanic Surnamed" is the entire name of the cubbyhole. No, it's not. There is a branch of my family, with the surname of "Gleason" in Mexico with accomplishments such as being dean of a faculty at the UNAM, and the mother of a former Mexican ambassador to Great Britain. Of course, the original form of that surname is Celt, and comes from the Northwestern part of the Iberian Peninsula, morphed only by long usage in southwestern Ireland. I know Hispanics with surnames like Liberman... in that case, the family members qualified for minority tax certificates when they bought KLVE and KTNQ in Los Angeles. Or names like Riekehoff, Fujimori, Kirchner, O'Higgins, Fourquets, Bonet, Hadad, Slim, Dassum, Nebot, Fox, Rosenblat, Pisterman, Smirnoff and many more, and all are Hispanics of some international prominence or local fame. It's not about names. Even the original OMB and Bureau of the Census definition, made before the 1980 Census, said that the quality of being Hispanic is related to the culture of or derived from the usage of the Spanish language. i know more about the history or racism in this country than you do. http://www.eeoc.gov/federal/report/hwg.html I know that these days racism is a red herring 99% of the time concerning the average citizen. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Eduardo - help me get this straight.....
"Telamon" wrote in message ... Manufacturers are starting to realize that the AM band is not necessary in multifuncition devices, and we are starting to see FM only devices, particularly in the areas of media players, iPod and iPhone docks (mine has FM only), etc. I don't think that is the reason. It is easier to implement FM because it is in the range of 87 to 107 MHz. The digital noise is harder to eliminate low frequency AM and loop type antennas are bulkier so if you want to add radio FM is the easier way to go. But behind everything is the knowledge that an AM -less radio will sell, but one without FM will not. Granted, there are lots of radios out there... but most people under 30 or 40 would not even think of going to AM in an emergency, since they have no familiarity with AM or what goes on there... and with news and talk stations moving rapidly to FM, there will be no service of value left there in most markets. AMBCB radios are everywhere. Everyone is familiar with them even if they don't normally used them. If you ask the average person under 35 what AM radio is, most will give a wrong answer or make a comment about it being what grand dad listens to, and they have no idea what might be on AM... and with news talk rapidly moving to FM, there will be no reason to listen in most markets. |
Eduardo - help me get this straight.....
"Telamon" wrote in message ... Of course, the original form of that surname is Celt, and comes from the Northwestern part of the Iberian Peninsula, morphed only by long usage in southwestern Ireland. I know Hispanics with surnames like Liberman... in that case, the family members qualified for minority tax certificates when they bought KLVE and KTNQ in Los Angeles. Or names like Riekehoff, Fujimori, Kirchner, O'Higgins, Fourquets, Bonet, Hadad, Slim, Dassum, Nebot, Fox, Rosenblat, Pisterman, Smirnoff and many more, and all are Hispanics of some international prominence or local fame. It's not about names. Even the original OMB and Bureau of the Census definition, made before the 1980 Census, said that the quality of being Hispanic is related to the culture of or derived from the usage of the Spanish language. i know more about the history or racism in this country than you do. http://www.eeoc.gov/federal/report/hwg.html I know that these days racism is a red herring 99% of the time concerning the average citizen. I don't know what racism has to do with this thread anyway... "Hispanic" is not a race. |
Eduardo - help me get this straight.....
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "dave" wrote in message ... "Telamon" wrote in message ... Of course, the original form of that surname is Celt, and comes from the Northwestern part of the Iberian Peninsula, morphed only by long usage in southwestern Ireland. I know Hispanics with surnames like Liberman... in that case, the family members qualified for minority tax certificates when they bought KLVE and KTNQ in Los Angeles. Or names like Riekehoff, Fujimori, Kirchner, O'Higgins, Fourquets, Bonet, Hadad, Slim, Dassum, Nebot, Fox, Rosenblat, Pisterman, Smirnoff and many more, and all are Hispanics of some international prominence or local fame. It's not about names. Even the original OMB and Bureau of the Census definition, made before the 1980 Census, said that the quality of being Hispanic is related to the culture of or derived from the usage of the Spanish language. i know more about the history or racism in this country than you do. http://www.eeoc.gov/federal/report/hwg.html I know that these days racism is a red herring 99% of the time concerning the average citizen. I don't know what racism has to do with this thread anyway... "Hispanic" is not a race. You will have to ask that question. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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