"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

Struble - One of the reasons why your crap digital radio is crashing
and burning is because you have to "approved" it as manufacturer.
Imagine that.

And then you make a big deal about it! As if it's a real big honor to
be "iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke.

Ill bet most manufacturers don't want to go through the trouble of
being "approved" by you. (Especially since no one wants it anyway -
why bother) Think about it.

I know it's software and firmware driven but it's still just radio
trashbag. No matter how many tricks it can do it's still essentially
radio.

I "approve" of this message.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

On May 23, 9:57*am, wrote:
Struble - One of the reasons why your crap digital radio is crashing
and burning is because you have to "approved" it as manufacturer.
Imagine that.

And then you make a big deal about it! As if it's a real big honor to
be *"iBiquity approved". *Really, what a joke.

Ill bet most manufacturers don't want to go through the trouble of
being "approved" by you. (Especially since no one wants it anyway -
why bother) Think about it.

I know it's software and firmware driven but it's still just radio
trashbag. *No matter how many tricks it can do it's still essentially
radio.

I "approve" of this message.

Buy another radio for what? to hear the exact same content found on AM/
FM. Plus the coverage isn't great unless, it's a 100,000 watt stick..
Even 6,000 watts of Fm in stereo is scratchy..

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

On May 23, 9:57�am, wrote:
Struble - One of the reasons why your crap digital radio is crashing
and burning is because you have to "approved" it as manufacturer.
Imagine that.

And then you make a big deal about it! As if it's a real big honor to
be �"iBiquity approved". �Really, what a joke.

Ill bet most manufacturers don't want to go through the trouble of
being "approved" by you. (Especially since no one wants it anyway -
why bother) Think about it.

I know it's software and firmware driven but it's still just radio
trashbag. �No matter how many tricks it can do it's still essentially
radio.

I "approve" of this message.

"HD Radio: Still low in priority at stores"

"I visited a Best Buy the other day, and while I was there I stopped
in the auto sound department. He took me to the display wall and
showed me the one unit that had HD Radio built in. It was a model from
JVC. He said that others were HD Radio ready, but they all required an
expensive interface to add HD Radio."

http://tinyurl.com/chb3rg

"Is HD Radio going to be killed by manufacturers' desire to keep it a
premium-priced upgrade?"

"I just embarked on my twice-per-year online shopping trip to see if
it's time to upgrade my car stereo to HD. Saw a sudden shift to car
radios now being 'HD-Ready' instead of HD for a number of radios. This
appears to require the purchase and professional installation of a
separate, compatible unit. Anyone know why this appears to be a sudden
new direction and what this might mean for the future of HD radio?"

http://tinyurl.com/6rbj7y

Most of what iBiquity claims is a bluff - the move is awa from "HD" to
jsut "HD Ready", as manufacturers have been burned. How could iBiquity
have scammed Sanyo? Yea, and these suckers get to pay iBiquity the
right to build IBIQUITY's products, but retailers just then pass the
licensing costs onto consumers:

"RadioShack's Inadequate Accurian"

"Instead of developing a radio capable of superior sound quality, I'm
guessing that RadioShack paid iBiquity a fortune for the license,
cheaply put together a subpar product, and passed the licensing cost
on to consumers."

http://tinyurl.com/qu9zdw

"The ongoing tragedy of HD radio"

"Supposedly, it costs a manufacturer about $50 to implant an iBiquity
HD chip into a radio, thus transforming it into an HD radio. That $50
(or so) is the fee the manufacturer pays to iBiquity. The actual cost
of this technology is, of course, likely to be a few dollars at most."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/10/the-ongoing-tra.html

Bob Struble and his HD Radio are a fraud.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

friend's ipod with commercials wrote:

Even 6,000 watts of Fm in stereo is scratchy..

Oooh; don't tell these guys:

http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine....DNumber=264236

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

On May 23, 2:03*pm, dave wrote:
friend's ipod with commercials wrote:

Even 6,000 watts of Fm in stereo is scratchy..

Oooh; don't tell these guys:

http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine....=FM&tabSearchT....

they know

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

wrote in message
...
Struble - One of the reasons why your crap digital radio is crashing
and burning is because you have to "approved" it as manufacturer.
Imagine that.

And then you make a big deal about it! As if it's a real big honor to
be "iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke.

Ill bet most manufacturers don't want to go through the trouble of
being "approved" by you. (Especially since no one wants it anyway -
why bother) Think about it.

I know it's software and firmware driven but it's still just radio
trashbag. No matter how many tricks it can do it's still essentially
radio.

I "approve" of this message.

Don't know how much different the "approval" process for IBLOC is from the
old days before superhet became public domain. Back in the day (as late as
the 50's), you had to pay license fees to Hazeltine Research to use a
superhet circuit design.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"dave" wrote in message
m...
friend's ipod with commercials wrote:

Even 6,000 watts of Fm in stereo is scratchy..

Oooh; don't tell these guys:

http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine....DNumber=264236

HAAT of the antenna structure makes a lot more difference than EIRP. With
antenna heights approaching 2000' HAAT, the Portland, OR FM's put a good
stereo signal out to about 20 miles when running only their 10W exciters
(which has been done on a few occasions when mains power was out over a wide
area for an extended time).

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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"dave" wrote in message
m...
friend's ipod with commercials wrote:

Even 6,000 watts of Fm in stereo is scratchy..

Oooh; don't tell these guys:

http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine....DNumber=264236

HAAT of the antenna structure makes a lot more difference than EIRP.

True to some extent. I was involved with a station in the LA area that had
500 watts at over 1000 feet, HAAT, and about 2000 feet over the LA Basin.
What we had was a bad signal over a very large area, We went off the side
of a mountain, down to to 300 feet at 6 kw, and the ratings with the same
format trippled.

I had to fight some folks who just looked at maps and did not understand how
radio is listened to in order to ram this through.

In this case, power was much more important, as below a certain power level,
height gets coverage without any intensity.

With
antenna heights approaching 2000' HAAT, the Portland, OR FM's put a good
stereo signal out to about 20 miles when running only their 10W exciters
(which has been done on a few occasions when mains power was out over a
wide area for an extended time).

And likely nobody was listening... that is too little power to generate any
audinece.

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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
With
antenna heights approaching 2000' HAAT, the Portland, OR FM's put a good
stereo signal out to about 20 miles when running only their 10W exciters
(which has been done on a few occasions when mains power was out over a
wide area for an extended time).

And likely nobody was listening... that is too little power to generate
any audinece.

I doubt they lost any significant number of listeners in the metro area,
since all stations at that point were on an equal playing field, and already
had their audiences. I know that at my place on the far east end of the
county I noticed absolutely no difference in signal quality.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
With
antenna heights approaching 2000' HAAT, the Portland, OR FM's put a good
stereo signal out to about 20 miles when running only their 10W exciters
(which has been done on a few occasions when mains power was out over a
wide area for an extended time).

And likely nobody was listening... that is too little power to generate
any audinece.

I doubt they lost any significant number of listeners in the metro area,
since all stations at that point were on an equal playing field, and
already had their audiences. I know that at my place on the far east end
of the county I noticed absolutely no difference in signal quality.


Laws of Physics step in here... the average home or at work listener's
receiver is not sensitive enough to pick up much under a 65 to near 70 dbu
signal, so they weren't listening to anything.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"dave" wrote in message
m...
friend's ipod with commercials wrote:

Even 6,000 watts of Fm in stereo is scratchy..

Oooh; don't tell these guys:

http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine....DNumber=264236

HAAT of the antenna structure makes a lot more difference than EIRP.

True to some extent. I was involved with a station in the LA area that
had 500 watts at over 1000 feet, HAAT, and about 2000 feet over the LA
Basin. What we had was a bad signal over a very large area,

That sounds like multipath in the RF plumbing. Did you tune for minimum
Synchronous AM?

Every necessary step was taken... including a rebuild on Johnstone when the
station was purchased. This was simply a case of too little power, although
it theoretically covered a great distance. The power was just not enough
anywhere to penetrate homes and buildings.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
With
antenna heights approaching 2000' HAAT, the Portland, OR FM's put a
good stereo signal out to about 20 miles when running only their 10W
exciters (which has been done on a few occasions when mains power was
out over a wide area for an extended time).

And likely nobody was listening... that is too little power to generate
any audinece.

I doubt they lost any significant number of listeners in the metro area,
since all stations at that point were on an equal playing field, and
already had their audiences. I know that at my place on the far east end
of the county I noticed absolutely no difference in signal quality.


Laws of Physics step in here... the average home or at work listener's
receiver is not sensitive enough to pick up much under a 65 to near 70
dbu signal, so they weren't listening to anything.

Whatever, 'dwardo. I've used an exciter at 440' to cover about to a 15
mile radius in good stereo.

The case here is that listeners, in real environments, don't / can't tune in
signals much below about 64 to 65 dbu.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"dave" wrote in message
m...
friend's ipod with commercials wrote:

Even 6,000 watts of Fm in stereo is scratchy..

Oooh; don't tell these guys:

http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine....DNumber=264236


HAAT of the antenna structure makes a lot more difference than EIRP.

True to some extent. I was involved with a station in the LA area
that had 500 watts at over 1000 feet, HAAT, and about 2000 feet over
the LA Basin. What we had was a bad signal over a very large area,

That sounds like multipath in the RF plumbing. Did you tune for
minimum Synchronous AM?

Every necessary step was taken... including a rebuild on Johnstone when
the station was purchased. This was simply a case of too little power,
although it theoretically covered a great distance. The power was just
not enough anywhere to penetrate homes and buildings.

Where was the beam tilt aimed?

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
With
antenna heights approaching 2000' HAAT, the Portland, OR FM's put
a good stereo signal out to about 20 miles when running only their
10W exciters (which has been done on a few occasions when mains
power was out over a wide area for an extended time).

And likely nobody was listening... that is too little power to
generate any audinece.

I doubt they lost any significant number of listeners in the metro
area, since all stations at that point were on an equal playing
field, and already had their audiences. I know that at my place on
the far east end of the county I noticed absolutely no difference in
signal quality.


Laws of Physics step in here... the average home or at work
listener's receiver is not sensitive enough to pick up much under a
65 to near 70 dbu signal, so they weren't listening to anything.

Whatever, 'dwardo. I've used an exciter at 440' to cover about to a
15 mile radius in good stereo.

The case here is that listeners, in real environments, don't / can't
tune in signals much below about 64 to 65 dbu.

Your consumerborg target demo is perhaps too stupid to work an FM
receiver but lots of normal people know about antennas and such.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
With
antenna heights approaching 2000' HAAT, the Portland, OR FM's put a
good stereo signal out to about 20 miles when running only their 10W
exciters (which has been done on a few occasions when mains power was
out over a wide area for an extended time).

And likely nobody was listening... that is too little power to generate
any audinece.

I doubt they lost any significant number of listeners in the metro area,
since all stations at that point were on an equal playing field, and
already had their audiences. I know that at my place on the far east end
of the county I noticed absolutely no difference in signal quality.


Laws of Physics step in here... the average home or at work listener's
receiver is not sensitive enough to pick up much under a 65 to near 70 dbu
signal, so they weren't listening to anything.

I hate to tell you this, because you will simply deny it anyway... but here
in Korea, there are only a few full power stations, most of those in Seoul,
Deagu and Busan. The rest of the country is served by literally hundreds,
perhaps thousands, of 20-40 watt translators. Most of the translators can
be heard very easily in many towns/villes on cheap pocket radios and mp3
players that have FM radios in them. I can personally sit here in my house
(houses here are almost 100% made from concrete and steel rebar) and hear at
least 4 translators for EACH of the network stations (KBS, MBC, CBS, etc.),
with the closest of those being about 12 Km away in Pyeongtaek, and all of
this on a little Sony pocket radio. There are three AFN plants that can be
heard as well: the local one, 5 Km away at the back of our base, running 40
watts, one from Osan, about 15Km away, running 30 watts, and the "big" one
in Seoul, 80 Km away, running a whopping huge 1200 watts! I don't know what
sort of oddball signal black hole you have there, but in the rest of the
real world, low power does work. Also, I'm sure you know that there are
many places on the east coast where a 6KW plant is as big as it gets..

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"dave" wrote in message
m...
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"dave" wrote in message
m...
friend's ipod with commercials wrote:

Even 6,000 watts of Fm in stereo is scratchy..

Oooh; don't tell these guys:

http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine....DNumber=264236

HAAT of the antenna structure makes a lot more difference than EIRP.

True to some extent. I was involved with a station in the LA area that
had 500 watts at over 1000 feet, HAAT, and about 2000 feet over the LA
Basin. What we had was a bad signal over a very large area,

That sounds like multipath in the RF plumbing. Did you tune for minimum
Synchronous AM?

Every necessary step was taken... including a rebuild on Johnstone when
the station was purchased. This was simply a case of too little power,
although it theoretically covered a great distance. The power was just
not enough anywhere to penetrate homes and buildings.

Where was the beam tilt aimed?

At the populated areas, not the mountain, but this was a single bay, so it
really was only optimized to comply with downward radiation for OSHA
purposes. This was just too little power. Everything was designed right, and
over the course of a number of years, three different antennas, both side
and pole mount, were tried. It was so obvious that it was simply too little
power... so moving down to the valley floor produced the right results and
within one survey period saw a dramatic increase in listening.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

I don't know what
sort of oddball signal black hole you have there, but in the rest of the
real world, low power does work.

No, it does not. In evaluations of the listening of several million Arbitron
diary keepers, where listening locations were identified by ZIP code, less
than 5% of the listening time was outside the 54 dbu contour. Most, 85% was
inside the 70 dbu. Interestingly, this matches the reception characteristics
of most consumer grade radios.

Your anecdotal evidence is amusing, but there is no data you provided that
shows that anyone even listens to these facilities at the distance you
mention. We all have such experiences... I got the exciter of one of my
transmitters in Ecuador (located about 3000 feet above Quito) nearly 200 km
away on a friend's hacienda; unfortunately, the fact that only the exciter
was on made for a long drive back to the city and up the hill.

Also, I'm sure you know that there are
many places on the east coast where a 6KW plant is as big as it gets..

That's not so. There are B's and A's in most of the NE, just as there are in
Southern California. Oh, and that is where an LA A duo is now sitting in the
top 5 18-49 and 25-54, but that's because there are 8 million people inside
the 64 dbu's of the two.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

I don't know what
sort of oddball signal black hole you have there, but in the rest of the
real world, low power does work.

No, it does not. In evaluations of the listening of several million Arbitron
diary keepers, where listening locations were identified by ZIP code, less
than 5% of the listening time was outside the 54 dbu contour. Most, 85% was
inside the 70 dbu. Interestingly, this matches the reception characteristics
of most consumer grade radios.

Your anecdotal evidence is amusing, but there is no data you provided that
shows that anyone even listens to these facilities at the distance you
mention. We all have such experiences... I got the exciter of one of my
transmitters in Ecuador (located about 3000 feet above Quito) nearly 200 km
away on a friend's hacienda; unfortunately, the fact that only the exciter
was on made for a long drive back to the city and up the hill.

You had no transmitters.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

Brenda Ann wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...
"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
With
antenna heights approaching 2000' HAAT, the Portland, OR FM's put a
good stereo signal out to about 20 miles when running only their 10W
exciters (which has been done on a few occasions when mains power was
out over a wide area for an extended time).
And likely nobody was listening... that is too little power to generate
any audinece.
I doubt they lost any significant number of listeners in the metro area,
since all stations at that point were on an equal playing field, and
already had their audiences. I know that at my place on the far east end
of the county I noticed absolutely no difference in signal quality.

Laws of Physics step in here... the average home or at work listener's
receiver is not sensitive enough to pick up much under a 65 to near 70 dbu
signal, so they weren't listening to anything.

I hate to tell you this, because you will simply deny it anyway... but here
in Korea, there are only a few full power stations, most of those in Seoul,
Deagu and Busan. The rest of the country is served by literally hundreds,
perhaps thousands, of 20-40 watt translators. Most of the translators can
be heard very easily in many towns/villes on cheap pocket radios and mp3
players that have FM radios in them. I can personally sit here in my house
(houses here are almost 100% made from concrete and steel rebar) and hear at
least 4 translators for EACH of the network stations (KBS, MBC, CBS, etc.),
with the closest of those being about 12 Km away in Pyeongtaek, and all of
this on a little Sony pocket radio. There are three AFN plants that can be
heard as well: the local one, 5 Km away at the back of our base, running 40
watts, one from Osan, about 15Km away, running 30 watts, and the "big" one
in Seoul, 80 Km away, running a whopping huge 1200 watts! I don't know what
sort of oddball signal black hole you have there, but in the rest of the
real world, low power does work. Also, I'm sure you know that there are
many places on the east coast where a 6KW plant is as big as it gets..



That's Class B territory, and Southern California is part of it. We do
have a couple of grandfathered FM blowtorches, but all they do is heat
up the mountains and the ocean. 6 KW on a good mountain is plenty.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
m...
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"dave" wrote in message
m...
friend's ipod with commercials wrote:

Even 6,000 watts of Fm in stereo is scratchy..

Oooh; don't tell these guys:

http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProEngine....DNumber=264236


HAAT of the antenna structure makes a lot more difference than EIRP.

True to some extent. I was involved with a station in the LA area
that had 500 watts at over 1000 feet, HAAT, and about 2000 feet
over the LA Basin. What we had was a bad signal over a very large
area,

That sounds like multipath in the RF plumbing. Did you tune for
minimum Synchronous AM?

Every necessary step was taken... including a rebuild on Johnstone
when the station was purchased. This was simply a case of too little
power, although it theoretically covered a great distance. The power
was just not enough anywhere to penetrate homes and buildings.

Where was the beam tilt aimed?

At the populated areas, not the mountain, but this was a single bay, so
it really was only optimized to comply with downward radiation for OSHA
purposes. This was just too little power. Everything was designed right,
and over the course of a number of years, three different antennas, both
side and pole mount, were tried. It was so obvious that it was simply
too little power... so moving down to the valley floor produced the
right results and within one survey period saw a dramatic increase in
listening.

Single bays don't work. You put as much energy into the sky as anywhere
else with a single bay. A 3 bay, with null-fill, tilted to the beach,
low VSWR 1.06:1 or better at +/- 600 kHz, and a properly constructed
transmission line should work well.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

I don't know what
sort of oddball signal black hole you have there, but in the rest of
the
real world, low power does work.

No, it does not. In evaluations of the listening of several million
Arbitron
diary keepers, where listening locations were identified by ZIP code,
less
than 5% of the listening time was outside the 54 dbu contour. Most, 85%
was
inside the 70 dbu. Interestingly, this matches the reception
characteristics
of most consumer grade radios.

Your anecdotal evidence is amusing, but there is no data you provided
that
shows that anyone even listens to these facilities at the distance you
mention. We all have such experiences... I got the exciter of one of my
transmitters in Ecuador (located about 3000 feet above Quito) nearly 200
km
away on a friend's hacienda; unfortunately, the fact that only the
exciter
was on made for a long drive back to the city and up the hill.

You had no transmitters.


I just recently gave you the name of a person of enormous recognition and
integrity... the past chairperson of the Pulitzer Prize board and a 30-year
member of the Interamerican Press Association, publisher of a significant
newspaper in Kansas: Edward Seaton.

Until you contact him and ask if I owned radio stations in Ecuador in the
period between 1964 and 1970, you can shut up.

Edward and I were friends while he was in Ecuador on a Fulbright Scholarship
grant he received after graduating from Harvard. He's been in my stations,
heard them on the air and knows about them. What better proof could you want
than someone of such a prominent public profile?

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"dave" wrote in message
m...
David Eduardo wrote:


At the populated areas, not the mountain, but this was a single bay, so
it really was only optimized to comply with downward radiation for OSHA
purposes. This was just too little power. Everything was designed right,
and over the course of a number of years, three different antennas, both
side and pole mount, were tried. It was so obvious that it was simply too
little power... so moving down to the valley floor produced the right
results and within one survey period saw a dramatic increase in
listening.

Single bays don't work. You put as much energy into the sky as anywhere
else with a single bay. A 3 bay, with null-fill, tilted to the beach, low
VSWR 1.06:1 or better at +/- 600 kHz, and a properly constructed
transmission line should work well.

All multi-bay antennas do is narrow the radiation beam. Were I to have the
choice, and cheap electric power too, I would always use single bay
antennas. There is no need for beam tilt, since the radiation angle is so
wide. And the focused beam of multi bay arrays tends to be jagged, and is
observed to be a contributor to increased multi-path.

I did extensive experimentation with my FMs in Ecuador, which was possible
due to lack of regulation and the fact that we built our own antennas (and
even the towers) locally. In a very mountainous terrain among the Andes, I
found that single bays did the best, and even developed a system to put
several single bays on the same plane with reflectors separating them so we
had 4 bays, at the same height, on a pole, each covering a 90 degree arc. Of
course, we decided to use vertical polarization only, which significantly
reduced multipath, also.

The optimal for cost and efficiency is likely a 2-bay system... unity gain,
and a wide, fairly rounded, beam.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

I don't know what
sort of oddball signal black hole you have there, but in the rest of
the
real world, low power does work.

No, it does not. In evaluations of the listening of several million
Arbitron
diary keepers, where listening locations were identified by ZIP code,
less
than 5% of the listening time was outside the 54 dbu contour. Most, 85%
was
inside the 70 dbu. Interestingly, this matches the reception
characteristics
of most consumer grade radios.

Your anecdotal evidence is amusing, but there is no data you provided
that
shows that anyone even listens to these facilities at the distance you
mention. We all have such experiences... I got the exciter of one of my
transmitters in Ecuador (located about 3000 feet above Quito) nearly 200
km
away on a friend's hacienda; unfortunately, the fact that only the
exciter
was on made for a long drive back to the city and up the hill.

You had no transmitters.


I just recently gave you the name of a person of enormous recognition and
integrity... the past chairperson of the Pulitzer Prize board and a 30-year
member of the Interamerican Press Association, publisher of a significant
newspaper in Kansas: Edward Seaton.

Until you contact him and ask if I owned radio stations in Ecuador in the
period between 1964 and 1970, you can shut up.

Edward and I were friends while he was in Ecuador on a Fulbright Scholarship
grant he received after graduating from Harvard. He's been in my stations,
heard them on the air and knows about them. What better proof could you want
than someone of such a prominent public profile?

You had no transmitters and owned no stations.

Sorry, 'Eduardo', you'll have to try and con someone else.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


I just recently gave you the name of a person of enormous recognition and
integrity... the past chairperson of the Pulitzer Prize board and a
30-year
member of the Interamerican Press Association, publisher of a significant
newspaper in Kansas: Edward Seaton.

Until you contact him and ask if I owned radio stations in Ecuador in the
period between 1964 and 1970, you can shut up.

Edward and I were friends while he was in Ecuador on a Fulbright
Scholarship
grant he received after graduating from Harvard. He's been in my
stations,
heard them on the air and knows about them. What better proof could you
want
than someone of such a prominent public profile?

You had no transmitters and owned no stations.

Sorry, 'Eduardo', you'll have to try and con someone else.

So you are admitting you don't want to find out the truth, and that you have
been wrong for all this time?

You are wrong on so much, it does not surprise me.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


I just recently gave you the name of a person of enormous recognition and
integrity... the past chairperson of the Pulitzer Prize board and a
30-year
member of the Interamerican Press Association, publisher of a significant
newspaper in Kansas: Edward Seaton.

Until you contact him and ask if I owned radio stations in Ecuador in the
period between 1964 and 1970, you can shut up.

Edward and I were friends while he was in Ecuador on a Fulbright
Scholarship
grant he received after graduating from Harvard. He's been in my
stations,
heard them on the air and knows about them. What better proof could you
want
than someone of such a prominent public profile?

You had no transmitters and owned no stations.

Sorry, 'Eduardo', you'll have to try and con someone else.

So you are admitting you don't want to find out the truth, and that you have
been wrong for all this time?

I'm admitting that you'll have to try and con someone else.

Pay attention, 'tard boy.

You are wrong on so much, it does not surprise me.

Lots of things probably surprise you, faux boy.

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Lots of things probably surprise you, faux boy.


Obviously, the truth apparently surprises you...

I just recently gave you the name of a person of enormous recognition and
integrity... the past chairperson of the Pulitzer Prize board and a 30-year
member of the Interamerican Press Association, publisher of a significant
newspaper in Kansas: Edward Seaton.

Until you contact him and ask if I owned radio stations in Ecuador in the
period between 1964 and 1970, you can shut up.

Edward and I were friends while he was in Ecuador on a Fulbright Scholarship
grant he received after graduating from Harvard. He's been in my stations,
heard them on the air and knows about them. What better proof could you want
than someone of such a prominent public profile?

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Lots of things probably surprise you, faux boy.


Obviously, the truth apparently surprises you...

I just recently gave you the name of a person of enormous recognition and
integrity... the past chairperson of the Pulitzer Prize board and a 30-year
member of the Interamerican Press Association, publisher of a significant
newspaper in Kansas: Edward Seaton.

Until you contact him and ask if I owned radio stations in Ecuador in the
period between 1964 and 1970, you can shut up.

Edward and I were friends while he was in Ecuador on a Fulbright Scholarship
grant he received after graduating from Harvard. He's been in my stations,
heard them on the air and knows about them. What better proof could you want
than someone of such a prominent public profile?

For someone who claims to be a VP at a rather large company, you seem overly
concerned about what I think, 'tard boy!

As I stated earlier, you'll have to try and con someone else.

Good luck, faux boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
As I stated earlier, you'll have to try and con someone else.


I just recently gave you the name of a person of enormous recognition and
integrity... the past chairperson of the Pulitzer Prize board and a 30-year
member of the Interamerican Press Association, publisher of a significant
newspaper in Kansas: Edward Seaton.

Until you contact him and ask if I owned radio stations in Ecuador in the
period between 1964 and 1970, you can shut up.

Edward and I were friends while he was in Ecuador on a Fulbright Scholarship
grant he received after graduating from Harvard. He's been in my stations,
heard them on the air and knows about them. What better proof could you want
than someone of such a prominent public profile?

"iBiquity approved". Really, what a joke
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
As I stated earlier, you'll have to try and con someone else.


I just recently gave you the name of a person of enormous recognition and
integrity... the past chairperson of the Pulitzer Prize board and a 30-year
member of the Interamerican Press Association, publisher of a significant
newspaper in Kansas: Edward Seaton.

Until you contact him and ask if I owned radio stations in Ecuador in the
period between 1964 and 1970, you can shut up.

Edward and I were friends while he was in Ecuador on a Fulbright Scholarship
grant he received after graduating from Harvard. He's been in my stations,
heard them on the air and knows about them. What better proof could you want
than someone of such a prominent public profile?

Your con ain't working, 'tard boy!