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CNN, BBC and AFP reporters accosted by umbrella-wielding "undercover"
police at Beijing's Tiananmen Square
http://shanghaiist.com/2009/06/03/ph...or_blocked.php


Media censored on Tiananmen Square
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/14503d04-4...nclick_check=1


Today at Tiananmen Square
http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/...in_beijing.php


The Day China's Heart Froze

Twenty years ago today, thousands were being killed in the streets
around Tiananmen Square. Dan Edwards in Beijing speaks to survivors
about a wound that hasn't healed

http://newmatilda.com/2009/06/03/day-chinas-heart-froze


June 4 roundup - English-language reading related to today's
anniversary:
http://www.danwei.org/danwei_picks/june_4_roundup.php


"The Gate of Heavanly Peace" - is IMO the definitive documentary on
June 4th, 1989 in Tiananmen Squa
http://tsquare.tv

It is not sold in stores and is only available as a educational rental
from Asian American Media he http://distribution.asianamericanmed...wse/film/?i=87

OR you may ask your local library. I borrowed a copy at a Univesirty
library.
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CNN, BBC and AFP reporters accosted by umbrella-wielding "undercover"
police at Beijing's Tiananmen Square
http://shanghaiist.com/2009/06/03/ph...or_blocked.php


Media censored on Tiananmen Square
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/14503d04-4...nclick_check=1


Today at Tiananmen Square
http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/...in_beijing.php


The Day China's Heart Froze

Twenty years ago today, thousands were being killed in the streets
around Tiananmen Square.


They were protesting the Chinese government's shift from Communism to
good old American style fascism.
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Twenty years ago today, thousands were being killed in the streets
around Tiananmen Square.


They were protesting the Chinese government's shift from Communism to
good old American style fascism.



The only reason communism is still alive there is that they still need time.

Time to make sure all the children and relatives of the party bosses
have their own factories and businesses. They set up a monopoly on
everything for themselves and then declare communism obsolete.

That's the way it's worked in every other 'former' communist State.

The rich get richer. Then there will be NO obligations on the State to
provide anything to anybody. Starvation makes people work for next to
nothing. A veritable businessman's paradise.

Communism has always been a farce, but this new use of it as a business
creation tool is the worst aspect ever.




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On Jun 4, 8:17*am, m II wrote:
dave wrote:
Twenty years ago today, thousands were being killed in the streets
around Tiananmen Square.


They were protesting the Chinese government's shift from Communism to
good old American style fascism.


- The only reason communism is still alive there is that they still
need time.

The only reason 'a-one-party-system' is still alive there . . .

control, Control. CONTROL !

Time to make sure all the children and relatives of the party bosses
have their own factories and businesses. They set up a monopoly on
everything for themselves and then declare communism obsolete.

That's the way it's worked in every other 'former' communist State.

The rich get richer. Then there will be NO obligations on the State to
provide anything to anybody. Starvation makes people work for next to
nothing. *A veritable businessman's paradise.


- Communism has always been a farce,

Not to the Millions that have been Kill by It.

- but this new use of it as a business creation tool
- is the worst aspect ever.

D'Oh ! - More of the China's [PRC] Citizens now
have Jobs and Food on the Table then at anytime
in their last 100 Years. Proving that a Market Driven
Economy {Controlled by the Many} under a One Party
System works better then a Centrally Planned Economy
{Controlled by the Few "ObamaNomics"}.
For Many/Most Citizens of China now have more :
* Economic Opportunity
* Employment Freedom
* Material Wealth
= A Better Life all things being relative. ~ RHF
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wrote:
CNN, BBC and AFP reporters accosted by umbrella-wielding "undercover"
police at Beijing's Tiananmen Square
http://shanghaiist.com/2009/06/03/ph...or_blocked.php


Media censored on Tiananmen Square
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/14503d04-4...nclick_check=1


Today at Tiananmen Square
http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/...in_beijing.php


The Day China's Heart Froze

Twenty years ago today, thousands were being killed in the streets
around Tiananmen Square.


They were protesting the Chinese government's shift from Communism to good
old American style fascism.


No they wanted democracy. Not Communism (which is just as bad as Fascism)



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On Jun 5, 7:12*am, dave wrote:
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Twenty Years Later


So here we are, at another June 4 that much of the rest of the world
won’t notice. It is all the more painful here in the West in that this
anniversary – the 20th is one of our more important ones. It will hurt
to see those who so bravely gave their lives be so cruelly forgotten.


The irony here – and one we must remember – is that this year, more
than any other except perhaps for 1989 itself, we can truly say that
those who were murdered did not die in vain. For whatever the rest of
the world thinks of the Tiananmen Square bloodbath, the Chinese
Communist Party is more afraid of it than it has ever been.


- The Chinese government is no more Communist
- than the Nazis were socialists.
-*China is a *totalitarian fascist oligarchy.

Totalitarian One Party Oligarchy :

The Party Leader : Mao / Hitler

The Party Elite : The 1%ers

The One Party : CCP / NAZI

The Masses United Behind {Enslaved} by the Party
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On Jun 5, 10:02*am, "~ RHF" wrote:
The One Party : CCP

Never let the facts interfere with a good hissy fit. There were nine
separate political parties represented in the 2007 People's Congress.
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