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Who Is "Fascist"?
Those who put a high value on words may recoil at the title of Jonah
Goldberg's new book, "Liberal Fascism." As a result, they may refuse to read it, which will be their loss -- and a major loss. Those who value substance over words, however, will find in this book a wealth of challenging insights, backed up by thorough research and brilliant analysis. This is the sort of book that challenges the fundamental assumptions of its time -- and which, for that reason, is likely to be shunned rather than criticized. Because the word "fascist" is often thrown around loosely these days, as a general term of abuse, it is good that "Liberal Fascism" begins by discussing the real Fascism, introduced into Italy after the First World War by Benito Mussolini. The Fascists were completely against individualism in general and especially against individualism in a free market economy. Their agenda included minimum wage laws, government restrictions on profit- making, progressive taxation of capital, and "rigidly secular" schools. Unlike the Communists, the Fascists did not seek government ownership of the means of production. They just wanted the government to call the shots as to how businesses would be run. They were for "industrial policy," long before liberals coined that phrase in the United States. Indeed, the whole Fascist economic agenda bears a remarkable resemblance to what liberals would later advocate. Moreover, during the 1920s "progressives" in the United States and Britain recognized the kinship of their ideas with those of Mussolini, who was widely lionized by the left. Famed British novelist and prominent Fabian socialist H.G. Wells called for "Liberal Fascism," saying "the world is sick of parliamentary politics." Another literary giant and Fabian socialist, George Bernard Shaw, also expressed his admiration for Mussolini -- as well as for Hitler and Stalin, because they "did things," instead of just talk. In Germany, the Nazis followed in the wake of the Italian Fascists, adding racism in general and anti-semitism in particular, neither of which was part of Fascism in Italy or in Franco's Spain. Even the Nazi variant of Fascism found favor on the left when it was only a movement seeking power in the 1920s. W.E.B. DuBois was so taken with the Nazi movement that he put swastikas on the cover of a magazine he edited, despite complaints from Jewish readers. Even after Hitler achieved dictatorial power in Germany in 1933, DuBois declared that the Nazi dictatorship was "absolutely necessary in order to get the state in order." As late as 1937 he said in a speech in Harlem that "there is today, in some respects, more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past." In short, during the 1920s and the early 1930s, Fascism was not only looked on favorably by the left but recognized as having kindred ideas, agendas and assumptions. Only after Hitler and Mussolini disgraced themselves, mainly by their brutal military aggressions in the 1930s, did the left distance themselves from these international pariahs. Fascism, initially recognized as a kindred ideology of the left, has since come down to us defined as being on "the right" -- indeed, as representing the farthest right, supposedly further extensions of conservatism. If by conservatism you mean belief in free markets, limited government, and traditional morality, including religious influences, then these are all things that the Fascists opposed just as much as the left does today. The left may say that they are not racists or anti-semites, like Hitler, but neither was Mussolini or Franco. Hitler, incidentally, got some of his racist ideology from the writings of American "progressives" in the eugenics movement. Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism" http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis...dp/0767917189/ is too rich a book to be summarized in a newspaper column. Get a copy and start re-thinking the received notions about who is on "the left" and who is on "the right." It is a book for people who want to think, rather than repeat rhetoric. http://townhall.com/columnists/Thoma...who_is_fascist http://www.tsowell.com/ http://liberalfascism.nationalreview.com |
Who Is "Fascist"?
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:40:15 -0700 (PDT), 0baMa0 Tse Dung
wrote: Those who put a high value on words may recoil at the title of Jonah Goldberg's new book, "Liberal Fascism." As a result, they may refuse to read it, which will be their loss -- and a major loss. this is nothing more than right wing propagandists trying to redefine terms. Like they made liberal a bad word. Marx was right. It all comes down to class warfare. Either we let the ultra wealthy conservatives hide behind their corporations and run the government for their own personal benefit, or we let the people run the government for the benefit of all. Fascism is the ultra wealthy controlling the government. Liberalism has attempted to take that control back and put it in the hands of The People. Such was the purpose of The US Constitution. A very liberal document by the way. |
Who Is "Fascist"?
On Jun 17, 8:51*pm, hal wrote:
this is nothing more than right wing propagandists trying to redefine terms. *Like they made liberal a bad word. *Marx was right. *It all comes down to class warfare. *Either we let the ultra wealthy conservatives hide behind their corporations and run the government for their own personal benefit, or we let the people run the government for the benefit of all. *Fascism is the ultra wealthy controlling the government. *Liberalism has attempted to take that control back and put it in the hands of The People. *Such was the purpose of The US Constitution. *A very liberal document by the way. * pffft-bwahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! .... |
(OT) : Who Is A "Fascist"? & Who Is A "Liberal" Are Some One And TheSame -aka- "Liberal-Fascist" Can They Exist & Do They Exist ?
On Jun 17, 6:51*pm, hal wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:40:15 -0700 (PDT), 0baMa0 Tse Dung wrote: Those who put a high value on words may recoil at the title of Jonah Goldberg's new book, "Liberal Fascism." As a result, they may refuse to read it, which will be their loss -- and a major loss. this is nothing more than right wing propagandists trying to redefine terms. *Like they made liberal a bad word. *Marx was right. *It all comes down to class warfare. *Either we let the ultra wealthy conservatives hide behind their corporations and run the government for their own personal benefit, or we let the people run the government for the benefit of all. *Fascism is the ultra wealthy controlling the government. *Liberalism has attempted to take that control back and put it in the hands of The People. *Such was the purpose of The US Constitution. *A very liberal document by the way. * |
(OT) : The Cult of Obamaism© from the 'Little Green Book' "Sayings of Czar Obama"
On Jun 18, 12:54*am, (Doug Bashford) wrote:
* * * * *hal said about: * * * * * Who Is "Fascist"? On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:40:15 -0700 (PDT), 0baMa0 Tse Dung wrote: Those who put a high value on words may recoil at the title of Jonah Goldberg's new book, "Liberal Fascism." As a result, they may refuse to read it, which will be their loss -- and a major loss. this is nothing more than right wing propagandists trying to redefine terms. * And millions of American eager to swallow. Like they made liberal a bad word. *Marx was right. *It all comes down to class warfare. *Either we let the ultra wealthy conservatives hide behind their corporations and run the government for their own personal benefit, or we let the people run the government for the benefit of all. *Fascism is the ultra wealthy controlling the government. *Liberalism has attempted to take that control back and put it in the hands of The People. *Such was the purpose of The US Constitution. *A very liberal document by the way. * Yup. Synopsis from World Book 1958: * * * Fascism's parts: * * *1) extreme nationalism, 2) police state, 3) cultivation * * *of ignorance, 4) suppression of labor, *5) militarism. cultivation of ignorance? Karl Rove answers: * *"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans * * *-- unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, * * which *proves there can be too much of a good thing." * * * * * --Karl Rove, February 19, 2001 * * *"We stand for the maintenance of private * property... We shall protect free enterprise as the * * *most expedient, or rather the sole possible * * * * * * * * economic order." * * * * * * * * * Adolph Hitler * " Fascism should more appropriately be called * Corporatism because it is a merger of State and * * * * * * * * corporate power." *Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Fascist Dictator of * * * * * * * * * * * Italy * *" The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the *people tolerate the growth of private power to the * * *point where it becomes stronger than the * * democratic state itself. That in its essence is * * *fascism - ownership of government by an * individual, by a group or any controlling private * * * * * * * * * * power. " * *President Franklin Delano Roosevelt - on the * * *threat to democracy by corporate power The insane twist the facts to fit their world view. The rational change their world view to fit the facts. The Liberty of a Government is not safe if the Leaders and the Party Tolerate the Growth of Democratic {People} Power to the point where it becomes Stronger than the Government itself. * The Cult of Obamaism© from the 'Little Green Book' "Saying of Czar Obama" -wrt- The Culture Revolution of Change : Transforming America into a Liberal-Fascist One Party Socialist Corporate State That in its essence is Obamaism© aka Liberal-Fascism Ownership of Government by an Individual {President}, by a Group {Political Party} or any Controlling Private Power {Federal Reserve}. President Barack 'Hussein' Obama on the threat to Presidential Czar Power by Democracy. * The Cult of Obamaism© from the 'Little Green Book' "Sayings of Czar Obama" -wrt- The Culture Revolution of Change : Transforming America into a Liberal-Fascist One Party Socialist Corporate State |
(OT) : The Cult of Obamaism© from the 'Little Green Book' "Sayings of Czar Obama"
On Jun 17, 10:26*pm, "Seon Ferguson" wrote:
Goldberg is probably the type who would call people anti American for protesting. He sounds like a hypocrite to me. "0baMa0 Tse Dung" wrote in ... Those who put a high value on words may recoil at the title of Jonah Goldberg's new book, "Liberal Fascism." As a result, they may refuse to read it, which will be their loss -- and a major loss. Those who value substance over words, however, will find in this book a wealth of challenging insights, backed up by thorough research and brilliant analysis. This is the sort of book that challenges the fundamental assumptions of its time -- and which, for that reason, is likely to be shunned rather than criticized. Because the word "fascist" is often thrown around loosely these days, as a general term of abuse, it is good that "Liberal Fascism" begins by discussing the real Fascism, introduced into Italy after the First World War by Benito Mussolini. The Fascists were completely against individualism in general and especially against individualism in a free market economy. Their agenda included minimum wage laws, government restrictions on profit- making, progressive taxation of capital, and "rigidly secular" schools. Unlike the Communists, the Fascists did not seek government ownership of the means of production. They just wanted the government to call the shots as to how businesses would be run. They were for "industrial policy," long before liberals coined that phrase in the United States. Indeed, the whole Fascist economic agenda bears a remarkable resemblance to what liberals would later advocate. Moreover, during the 1920s "progressives" in the United States and Britain recognized the kinship of their ideas with those of Mussolini, who was widely lionized by the left. Famed British novelist and prominent Fabian socialist H.G. Wells called for "Liberal Fascism," saying "the world is sick of parliamentary politics." Another literary giant and Fabian socialist, George Bernard Shaw, also expressed his admiration for Mussolini -- as well as for Hitler and Stalin, because they "did things," instead of just talk. In Germany, the Nazis followed in the wake of the Italian Fascists, adding racism in general and anti-semitism in particular, neither of which was part of Fascism in Italy or in Franco's Spain. Even the Nazi variant of Fascism found favor on the left when it was only a movement seeking power in the 1920s. W.E.B. DuBois was so taken with the Nazi movement that he put swastikas on the cover of a magazine he edited, despite complaints from Jewish readers. Even after Hitler achieved dictatorial power in Germany in 1933, DuBois declared that the Nazi dictatorship was "absolutely necessary in order to get the state in order." As late as 1937 he said in a speech in Harlem that "there is today, in some respects, more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past." In short, during the 1920s and the early 1930s, Fascism was not only looked on favorably by the left but recognized as having kindred ideas, agendas and assumptions. Only after Hitler and Mussolini disgraced themselves, mainly by their brutal military aggressions in the 1930s, did the left distance themselves from these international pariahs. Fascism, initially recognized as a kindred ideology of the left, has since come down to us defined as being on "the right" -- indeed, as representing the farthest right, supposedly further extensions of conservatism. If by conservatism you mean belief in free markets, limited government, and traditional morality, including religious influences, then these are all things that the Fascists opposed just as much as the left does today. The left may say that they are not racists or anti-semites, like Hitler, but neither was Mussolini or Franco. Hitler, incidentally, got some of his racist ideology from the writings of American "progressives" in the eugenics movement. Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism" http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis...i-Politics/dp/... is too rich a book to be summarized in a newspaper column. Get a copy and start re-thinking the received notions about who is on "the left" and who is on "the right." It is a book for people who want to think, rather than repeat rhetoric. http://townhall.com/columnists/Thoma...who_is_fascist http://www.tsowell.com/ http://liberalfascism.nationalreview.com |
(OT) : The Cult of Obamaism© from the 'Little Green Book' "Sayings of Czar Obama"
On Jun 18, 11:53*pm, "Seon Ferguson" wrote:
"~ RHF" wrote in message ... On Jun 17, 10:26 pm, "Seon Ferguson" wrote: Goldberg is probably the type who would call people anti American for protesting. He sounds like a hypocrite to me. "0baMa0 Tse Dung" wrote in ... Those who put a high value on words may recoil at the title of Jonah Goldberg's new book, "Liberal Fascism." As a result, they may refuse to read it, which will be their loss -- and a major loss. Those who value substance over words, however, will find in this book a wealth of challenging insights, backed up by thorough research and brilliant analysis. This is the sort of book that challenges the fundamental assumptions of its time -- and which, for that reason, is likely to be shunned rather than criticized. Because the word "fascist" is often thrown around loosely these days, as a general term of abuse, it is good that "Liberal Fascism" begins by discussing the real Fascism, introduced into Italy after the First World War by Benito Mussolini. The Fascists were completely against individualism in general and especially against individualism in a free market economy. Their agenda included minimum wage laws, government restrictions on profit- making, progressive taxation of capital, and "rigidly secular" schools. Unlike the Communists, the Fascists did not seek government ownership of the means of production. They just wanted the government to call the shots as to how businesses would be run. They were for "industrial policy," long before liberals coined that phrase in the United States. Indeed, the whole Fascist economic agenda bears a remarkable resemblance to what liberals would later advocate. Moreover, during the 1920s "progressives" in the United States and Britain recognized the kinship of their ideas with those of Mussolini, who was widely lionized by the left. Famed British novelist and prominent Fabian socialist H.G. Wells called for "Liberal Fascism," saying "the world is sick of parliamentary politics." Another literary giant and Fabian socialist, George Bernard Shaw, also expressed his admiration for Mussolini -- as well as for Hitler and Stalin, because they "did things," instead of just talk. In Germany, the Nazis followed in the wake of the Italian Fascists, adding racism in general and anti-semitism in particular, neither of which was part of Fascism in Italy or in Franco's Spain. Even the Nazi variant of Fascism found favor on the left when it was only a movement seeking power in the 1920s. W.E.B. DuBois was so taken with the Nazi movement that he put swastikas on the cover of a magazine he edited, despite complaints from Jewish readers. Even after Hitler achieved dictatorial power in Germany in 1933, DuBois declared that the Nazi dictatorship was "absolutely necessary in order to get the state in order." As late as 1937 he said in a speech in Harlem that "there is today, in some respects, more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past." In short, during the 1920s and the early 1930s, Fascism was not only looked on favorably by the left but recognized as having kindred ideas, agendas and assumptions. Only after Hitler and Mussolini disgraced themselves, mainly by their brutal military aggressions in the 1930s, did the left distance themselves from these international pariahs. Fascism, initially recognized as a kindred ideology of the left, has since come down to us defined as being on "the right" -- indeed, as representing the farthest right, supposedly further extensions of conservatism. If by conservatism you mean belief in free markets, limited government, and traditional morality, including religious influences, then these are all things that the Fascists opposed just as much as the left does today. The left may say that they are not racists or anti-semites, like Hitler, but neither was Mussolini or Franco. Hitler, incidentally, got some of his racist ideology from the writings of American "progressives" in the eugenics movement. Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism" http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis...i-Politics/dp/.... is too rich a book to be summarized in a newspaper column. Get a copy and start re-thinking the received notions about who is on "the left" and who is on "the right." It is a book for people who want to think, rather than repeat rhetoric. http://townhall.com/columnists/Thoma...who_is_fascist http://www.tsowell.com/ http://liberalfascism.nationalreview.com *. Who Is A "Fascist"? -and- Who Is A "Liberal" Are Some {Not All} One And The Same -aka- "Liberal-Fascist" Can "Liberal-Fascist" Exist ? -and- Do "Liberal-Fascist" Exist ? http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9c9a87136d9a10 . The Liberty of a Government is not safe if the Leaders and the Party Tolerate the Growth of Democratic {People} Power to the point where it becomes Stronger than the Government itself. * The Cult of Obamaism© from the 'Little Green Book' "Saying of Czar Obama" -wrt- The Culture Revolution of Change : Transforming America into a Liberal-Fascist One Party Socialist Corporate State That in its essence is Obamaism© -aka- Liberal-Fascism Ownership of Government by an Individual {President}, by a Group {One Political Party} or any Controlling Private Power {Federal Reserve}. -says- President Barack 'Hussein' Obama on the Threat to Presidential {Czar} Power by Multi-Party Democracy and Freely Voting People. * The Cult of Obamaism© from the 'Little Green Book' "Sayings of Czar Obama" -wrt- The Culture Revolution of Change : Transforming America into a Liberal-Fascist One Party Socialist Corporate State . * The Cult of Obamaism© The President Is Above The Law . * The Cult of Obamaism© The President Is The Law {Czar} . * The Cult of Obamaism© As The President Decrees : The Law Is Written {Czar} -aka- All Power To The Czar. . * The Cult of Obamaism© The One Party Congress Exists To Support The President {Czar} . * The Cult of Obamaism© The President Is Commander and Chief : The Military Exists To Support The President {Czar} . * The Cult of Obamaism© The President Is The Power of Change "Change Is Necessary and Good" : The Youth Loved The President {Czar} and Change : The Youth Are The Instruments of Change {Change The Youth : Change The Culture -aka- Transformational Obamaism©} . * The Cult of Obamaism© The President Is Loved By The People : Good Citizens Love The President {Czar} : Bad Citizens Will Be Reeducated and Reformed To Love The President {Czar} -aka- All Love To The Czar. . you can make book on it ~ RHF . You could also make a book on all the times a Bush worshiper called me an American hater or communist for being against his policies. They are politicians. They ARE NOT God's. Get a life. SE, Didn't know that 'you' were worthy of a book. I guess that 'you' must be a Legend in 'your' own mind. Clearly Prez Obama is worthy of his own 'Little Green Book' containing the sayings Czar Obama. The Cult of Obamaism© from the 'Little Green Book' "Sayings of Czar Obama" http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...25f862c62682f6 Hello Wake-Up Call Obama is now the President and GWB is just so much history. It's now 2009 and It's Blame Obama Time -cause- Czar {Prez} Obama is the President. insane political pay back is a b-i-t-c-h ~ RHF |
Who Is "Fascist"?
On Jun 18, 2:54*am, (Doug Bashford) wrote:
* * * * *hal said about: * * * * * Who Is "Fascist"? On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:40:15 -0700 (PDT), 0baMa0 Tse Dung wrote: Those who put a high value on words may recoil at the title of Jonah Goldberg's new book, "Liberal Fascism." As a result, they may refuse to read it, which will be their loss -- and a major loss. this is nothing more than right wing propagandists trying to redefine terms. * And millions of American eager to swallow. Like they made liberal a bad word. *Marx was right. *It all comes down to class warfare. *Either we let the ultra wealthy conservatives hide behind their corporations and run the government for their own personal benefit, or we let the people run the government for the benefit of all. *Fascism is the ultra wealthy controlling the government. *Liberalism has attempted to take that control back and put it in the hands of The People. *Such was the purpose of The US Constitution. *A very liberal document by the way. * Yup. Synopsis from World Book 1958: * * * Fascism's parts: * * *1) extreme nationalism, 2) police state, 3) cultivation * * *of ignorance, 4) suppression of labor, *5) militarism. cultivation of ignorance? Karl Rove answers: * *"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans * * *-- unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, * * which *proves there can be too much of a good thing." * * * * * --Karl Rove, February 19, 2001 * * *"We stand for the maintenance of private * property... We shall protect free enterprise as the * * *most expedient, or rather the sole possible * * * * * * * * economic order." * * * * * * * * * Adolph Hitler * " Fascism should more appropriately be called * Corporatism because it is a merger of State and * * * * * * * * corporate power." *Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Fascist Dictator of * * * * * * * * * * * Italy * *" The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the *people tolerate the growth of Government power to the * * *point where it becomes stronger than The * * People. That in its essence is * * *Socialism - ownership of everything by Government. " * *President Franklin Delano Roosevelt - on the * * *threat to democracy by corporate power The insane twist the facts to fit their world view. The rational change their world view to fit the facts. Fascist Benito Mussolini and socialist Roosevelt held each other in high regard. Roosevelt was a Big fan of Mussilini fascism because he recognized that fascism was the only means to true Socialism. I would by far rather have the Private Sector run government than have The Governement run the private sector. Read "The Road to Sefdom". |
Who Is "Fascist"?
Chas. Chan wrote:
Fascist Benito Mussolini and socialist Roosevelt held each other in high regard. Roosevelt was a Big fan of Mussilini fascism because he recognized that fascism was the only means to true Socialism. I would by far rather have the Private Sector run government than have The Governement run the private sector. War is pure fascist socialism. The nationalists subsidize the defense industry with no-bid contracts, while fomenting conflict abroad. A revolving door is installed between the military and the defense industry and retired generals become lobbyists, consultants, and BOD directors. But this kind of corporate welfare and inbreeding permeates our entire social structure. Laws are written to ensure a growing need for prison beds, now a largely for-profit enterprise. This is why pot will never be legal; potheads meake great prisoners. They are non-violent and good workers. Our society is totally ****ed-up. I do hope it collapses completely, so we can have a fresh start. Too bad we just can't identify more with the Nazis; their lesson is a good one. |
Who Is "Fascist"?
JUST OUT: B HO the USURPER's approval rating index SINKS to MINUS 2
PERCENT. - 2 % http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=267397 Heh, That is GOOD, GOOD, GOOD! Making this here Ghostbusters movie I am watching on the AMC channel even Better! Good old Joyce Creel at the auto/truck/lawn mower battery factory that used to be in Florence,Mississippi used to say to me every day, How are you going to act? cuhulin |
Who Is "Fascist"?
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:29:13 -0700, Chas. Chan wrote:
On Jun 18, 2:54Â*am, (Doug Bashford) wrote: Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*hal said about: Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Who Is "Fascist"? On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:40:15 -0700 (PDT), 0baMa0 Tse Dung wrote: Those who put a high value on words may recoil at the title of Jonah Goldberg's new book, "Liberal Fascism." As a result, they may refuse to read it, which will be their loss -- and a major loss. this is nothing more than right wing propagandists trying to redefine terms. And millions of American eager to swallow. Like they made liberal a bad word. Â*Marx was right. Â*It all comes down to class warfare. Â*Either we let the ultra wealthy conservatives hide behind their corporations and run the government for their own personal benefit, or we let the people run the government for the benefit of all. Â*Fascism is the ultra wealthy controlling the government. Â*Liberalism has attempted to take that control back and put it in the hands of The People. Â*Such was the purpose of The US Constitution. Â*A very liberal document by the way. Yup. Synopsis from World Book 1958: Â* Â* Â* Fascism's parts: Â* Â* Â*1) extreme nationalism, 2) police state, 3) cultivation of Â* Â* Â*ignorance, 4) suppression of labor, Â*5) militarism. cultivation of ignorance? Karl Rove answers: Â* Â*"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans Â* Â* Â*-- unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, Â* Â* which Â*proves there can be too much of a good thing." Â* Â* Â* Â* --Karl Rove, February 19, 2001 Â* Â* Â*"We stand for the maintenance of private Â* property... We shall protect free enterprise as the Â* Â* Â*most expedient, or rather the sole possible Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* economic order." Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Adolph Hitler Â* " Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it Â* is a merger of State and Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* corporate power." Â*Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Fascist Dictator of Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Italy Â* Â*" The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the Â*people tolerate the growth of Government power to the Â* Â* Â*point where it becomes stronger than The Â* Â* People. That in its essence is Â* Â* Â*Socialism - ownership of everything by Government. " Â* Â*President Franklin Delano Roosevelt - on the Â* Â* Â*threat to democracy by corporate power The insane twist the facts to fit their world view. The rational change their world view to fit the facts. Fascist Benito Mussolini and socialist Roosevelt held each other in high regard. Roosevelt was a Big fan of Mussilini fascism because he recognized that fascism was the only means to true Socialism. I would by far rather have the Private Sector run government than have The Governement run the private sector. Read "The Road to Sefdom". You seem to have answered your own question: Mussolini was a fascist. Your ridiculous unsupported claims that Roosevelt was a "socialist" and that "he recognized that fascism was the only means to true Socialism" are your own demented creations. The reality is that socialism is a political manifestation in which the government _OWNS_ the means of production. Fascism is ab-use of government by the wealthy and powerful in league with the church to maintain and enhance the power of the owner class. These two political contrivances are entirely different. -- "Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson |
Who Is "Fascist"?
Mussolini wound up DEAD! hangin by his feetsies UPSIDE down from a Lamp
Post in Milano,Eeeetaly. www.devilfinder.com Mussolini hanging from a lamp post in Italy Heh, there is a parody song abouts that too.Heh Heh Heh. Leetle Adolph Hitler wound up DEAD! down there in that there concrete bunker in Berlin,Germany.He commenced to commit SUICIDE! that was the Best thing he ever did while he was still alive. cuhulin |
Who Is "Fascist"?
David Letterman is fascist.
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Who Is "Fascist"?
in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, On Sun, 21 Jun, dave said about: Who Is "Fascist"? Chas. Chan wrote: Fascist Benito Mussolini and socialist Roosevelt held each other in high regard. Roosevelt was a Big fan of Mussilini fascism because he recognized that fascism was the only means to true Socialism. I would by far rather have the Private Sector run government than have The Governement run the private sector. War is pure fascist socialism. To bad you are so brainwashed, cuz you have some interesting ideas. But you'll never find truth. It's pure fascisism, nothing socialistic about it. But that concept is taboo in America. Judging from your lingo, you've been brainwashed by the RW libertarians, probably the LP Libertarians. What a waste. Wanna test that concept? Most people would not, they shift into self defense mode at the very idea, and close down. In our specific context; Here's how they do it: They have re-defined "socialism" in your mind. Try a dictionary. Here's 20 of them: www.onelook.com/ Caution: they are similar enough to your implanted version, you will need extreme critical thinking. more general info on that: http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...hors=&safe=off Synopsis from World Book 1958: Fascism's parts: 1) extreme nationalism, 2) police state, 3) cultivation of ignorance, 4) suppression of labor, 5) militarism. The insane twist the facts to fit their world view. The rational change their world view to fit the facts. The nationalists subsidize the defense industry with no-bid contracts, while fomenting conflict abroad. Yes. But it's more than the nationalists. It's any politician under the defense industry's thumb. defense industry = defense industry's loby. ....Looks like this: "...merger of State and corporate power." " Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power." --Benito Mussolini A revolving door is installed between the military and the defense industry and retired generals become lobbyists, consultants, and BOD directors. Bingo. See above. - Mussolini "corporate welfare" see above. - Mussolini But this kind of corporate welfare and inbreeding permeates our entire social structure. Yup. see above. - Mussolini See also: Military Industrial Complex Eisenhower: ** "In the counsels of Government, we must guard ** against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, ** whether sought or unsought, by the Military Industrial ** Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of ** misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must ** never let the weight of this combination endanger our ** liberties or democratic processes." ** - President Dwight Eisenhower, January 1961. "...merger of State and corporate power." "...ownership of government by an individual, by a group or any controlling private powers." Laws are written to ensure a growing need for prison beds, now a largely for-profit enterprise. This is why pot will never be legal; potheads meake great prisoners. They are non-violent and good workers. Yup. The merger of State and corporate power. Our society is totally ****ed-up. I do hope it collapses completely, so we can have a fresh start. Too bad we just can't identify more with the Nazis; their lesson is a good one. Synopsis from World Book 1958: Fascism's parts: 1) extreme nationalism, 2) police state, 3) cultivation of ignorance, 4) suppression of labor, 5) militarism. cultivation of ignorance? Karl Rove answers: "As people do better, they start voting like Republicans -- unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing." --Karl Rove, February 19, 2001 "We stand for the maintenance of private property... We shall protect free enterprise as the most expedient, or rather the sole possible economic order." Adolph Hitler " Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power." Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Fascist Dictator of Italy " The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group or any controlling private powers. " President Franklin Delano Roosevelt - on the threat to democracy by corporate power Wisdom from 1938: "The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in it's essence is fascism: ownership of the government by an individual, by a group or any controlling private powers." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, message to congress, proposing the "Standard Oil" Monopoly Investigation, 1938 * The insane twist the facts to fit their world view. * The rational change their world view to fit the facts. - "Fascism should more properly be called - corporatism, since it is the merger - of state and corporate power." -- - Benito Mussolini, father of fascism. |
Who Is "Fascist"?
in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, On 21 Jun 2009, Michael Coburn said about: Who Is "Fascist"? On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:29:13 -0700, Chas. Chan wrote: On Jun 18, 2:54Â*am, (Doug Bashford) wrote: .................snip I would by far rather have the Private Sector run government than have The Governement run the private sector. Could be. But that's off topic. That is a false, manufactured dichotomy. ....either a red herring or strawman, I'm guessing from sloppy thinking due to kneejerk grabbing at straws. Can we stay on topic? Read "The Road to Sefdom". You seem to have answered your own question: Mussolini was a fascist. Your ridiculous unsupported claims that Roosevelt was a "socialist" and that "he recognized that fascism was the only means to true Socialism" are your own demented creations. Yep. See my above comment. ...Off topic. However, I'm not up on the latest LP Libertarian "talking points." The LP completly robs Libertarians from the freedom to communicate with outsiders by redefining key vocabulary terms (such as socialism, taxes, government...google: Libertarian "Orwellian Linguistics") http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...ch&sitesearch= The reality is that socialism is a political manifestation in which the government _OWNS_ the means of production. Fascism is ab-use of government by the wealthy and powerful in league with the church to maintain and enhance the power of the owner class. These two political contrivances are entirely different. Bingo. To further clarify, socialism is against Capitalism, but Capitalism is part of Fascism. ** And above all Fascism denies that class-war can ** be the preponderant force in the transformation of ** society.... ** --Benito Mussolini, (Fascist dictator), from The ** Internet Modern History Sourcebook [[[[ "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. "We stand for the maintenance of private property... We shall protect free enterprise as the most expedient, or rather the sole possible economic order." Adolph Hitler "You don't need a totalitarian dictatorship like Hitler's to get by with murder ... you can do it in a democracy as long as the Congress and the people Congress is supposed to represent don't give a damn?" William Shirer, author of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", 1973 Wisdom from 1938: "The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in it's essence is fascism: ownership of the government by an individual, by a group or any controlling private powers." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, message to congress, proposing the "Standard Oil" Monopoly Investigation, 1938 * The insane twist the facts to fit their world view. * The rational change their world view to fit the facts. - "Fascism should more properly be called - corporatism, since it is the merger - of state and corporate power." -- - Benito Mussolini, father of fascism. |
Who Is "Fascist"?
B HO is fascist.
B HO has NEGATIVE approval index yet again. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=267451 Yet Again,,, Yet Again,,, Yet Again,,,,,,,, cuhulin |
Who Is "Fascist"?
STAY AWAY FROM ANY AND ALL V.A.MEDICAL CENTERS/HORSEPITALS!
DON'T GO THERE! http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=267424 cuhulin |
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