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On 7/14/09 14:26 , David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:


I doubt anyone would play the drug reference song, as that would
likely fall under being outside community standards and subject a
station to a $325 thousand dollar per play fine.

Bull****. You can talk about drugs all you want. Get a grip.

There are some real practical limits... and they come to community
standards. A discussion of drug legalization is OK, while a person
giving instruction on how to best set up a bong might not.





As evidenced by the hundreds of millions in fines assessed against
radio since 1977 for Clapton's "Cocaine."


Or Johnny Cash's 'Cocaine Blues.'

Or Grateful Dead's 'Cocaine.'

Or the countless Cheech and Chong recordings that have hit the air since.

Please.

And then, there's Steve Miller's "Jet Airliner" which contained the
phrase, '...all the funky **** going down in the city," when it hit the
air on radio stations in markets across the country, straight off the
album in April of 1977. I can speak with some confidence on this....I
played it myself on stations in markets from small town Iowa, to big
city Texas, through Missouri, Kansas and Illinois, over the years. It's
playing in Chicago now.

Also playing in Chicago, on Bonneville's WDRV, no less, is Pink
Floyd's "Money." Complete with 'that goody-good bull****,' in tact. Even
in morning drive.

Spoken word content has been cracked more than once. And jobs have
been lost, to be sure. But lyric content has been challenged, has been
taken to court, and has won in case after case.

You should have heard KDNA, St Louis, in its heyday. You'd have had a
klong where you sat.

How to set up a bong was tame by comparison to KDNA.

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New Oil Exploration in Mississippi

Bolton is about nine or ten miles West of me.I sort of know a Ham Radio
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U.S.Soldier challenging Dumbass's legitamacy doesn't have to deploy.

Couple of articles about that at www.libertypost.org
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On 7/14/09 14:26 , David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:


I doubt anyone would play the drug reference song, as that would
likely fall under being outside community standards and subject a
station to a $325 thousand dollar per play fine.

Bull****. You can talk about drugs all you want. Get a grip.

There are some real practical limits... and they come to community
standards. A discussion of drug legalization is OK, while a person
giving instruction on how to best set up a bong might not.


As evidenced by the hundreds of millions in fines assessed against
radio since 1977 for Clapton's "Cocaine."


Or Johnny Cash's 'Cocaine Blues.'

Or Grateful Dead's 'Cocaine.'

Or the countless Cheech and Chong recordings that have hit the air since.

Please.

And then, there's Steve Miller's "Jet Airliner" which contained the
phrase, '...all the funky **** going down in the city," when it hit the
air on radio stations in markets across the country, straight off the
album in April of 1977. I can speak with some confidence on this....I
played it myself on stations in markets from small town Iowa, to big
city Texas, through Missouri, Kansas and Illinois, over the years. It's
playing in Chicago now.

Also playing in Chicago, on Bonneville's WDRV, no less, is Pink
Floyd's "Money." Complete with 'that goody-good bull****,' in tact. Even
in morning drive.

Spoken word content has been cracked more than once. And jobs have
been lost, to be sure. But lyric content has been challenged, has been
taken to court, and has won in case after case.

You should have heard KDNA, St Louis, in its heyday. You'd have had a
klong where you sat.

How to set up a bong was tame by comparison to KDNA.

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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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On 7/14/09 14:26 , David Eduardo wrote:

As evidenced by the hundreds of millions in fines assessed against radio
since 1977 for Clapton's "Cocaine."

We are, I think, talking about today. Most of what Stern did when on
terrestrial radio would likely get the FCC in a uproar today; stations are
fined when celebrities who are totally out of a network's control utter cuss
words.

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On 7/15/09 01:07 , David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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On 7/14/09 14:26 , David Eduardo wrote:

As evidenced by the hundreds of millions in fines assessed against
radio since 1977 for Clapton's "Cocaine."

We are, I think, talking about today. Most of what Stern did when on
terrestrial radio would likely get the FCC in a uproar today; stations
are fined when celebrities who are totally out of a network's control
utter cuss words.



"Cocaine," I heard this morning. Is that current enough for you?
"Money" I heard about an hour ago "bull****" intact. "Jet Airliner" over
the weekend.

And Mancow has been using Cheech and Chong drops, making anti-gay,
anti ...his words...Jesse Jackass, and blatant drug references for months.

You need to get out of the server farm, once in a while.

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On Jul 11, 4:09*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message

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"0baMa0 Tse Dung" wrote in message
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On Jul 11, 9:12 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
We may have the 'freedom' to choose what we listen to on the radio, but
the
choice, thanks to corporatized radio, is miniscule.

Ja, unt Government will give you more for less - bwaHAHAHAHA!

You have never had a greater choice in radio programming in all of
history.
STOP with the Liberal Fascist propaganda lies!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

The choices of radio formats in most cities have dwindled to but a few:

Hip Hop
Oldies
Country (not in many east coast cities)

Except for New York, name me two East Coast metros without a country
station.

Sports/talk
Rock

Well, let's look at LA. Around 13 million people, 91 or 92 licensed
stations.

We have:
Liberal talk
Sports talk
Conservative talk
All News
Christian Talk
NPR / Talk
Childrens' (Disney)
Contemporary Christian
Christian Teaching
CHR
Alternative Rock
Classic Rock
AAA
Rhythmic AC
Traditional AC
Oldies (actually "Classic Hits" as we have no real oldies station)
Country
Jazz
Rhythmic Oldies
Urban
Classical
Hurban
Smooth Jazz
Adult Hits
Americana
CHUrban
Spanish CHR
Spanish AC
Spanish Adult Hits
Spanish All Sports
Spanish talk
Spanish Regional Mexican (equivalent of country)
Spanish rhythmic
Spanish religious
Spanish regional Oldies
In addition there are stations in Korean, Vietnamese and Chinese as well as
ones that combine various Asian languages.
And, finally, there is a station 24/7 in Farsi.

I can't really think of anything that is missing. And compared to the 60's,
the number of viable alternatives has more than trippled.



Gone from almost all venues are classical, opera, jazz, easy listening and
MOR.

The audience for classical has declined as it died; changes in school music
programs have pretty much eliminated the creation of a new generation or two
of classical listeners. Opera is simply an extension of this... there was
never an all.opera station, as opera was an occasional feature of classical
formats.

- Jazz was never a broadly successful (read: it
- did not have many listeners) anywhere.
- My first job was at a jazz station, WCUY,, in
- Cleveland, so I have followed the genre, and it
- has few followers, even in the few places where
- there are pockets of interest. Also, it is an art
- form that is dying due to the ageing of its artistas
- and fans.

'Smooth Jazz' KKSF 103.7 FM becomes KKSF "The Band" 103.7 FM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KKSF
http://www.kksf.com/main.html
http://radiotime.com/station/s_33596/The_Band_1037.aspx
http://www.yelp.com/biz/kksf-103-7-t...-san-francisco
http://www.infinitedial.com/2009/05/...37_the_ban.php
http://radioinsight.com/kksf-san-fra...oining-a-band/
http://www.sfradiomuseum.com/blog/20...-for-band.html

-but- Smooth Jazz lives-on via the Internet
and via FM Radio on 98.1 HD-2 [HD-Radio]

KKSF 'Smooth Jazz' Streaming Audio
http://www.kksf.com/pages/hdradio.html?_show

'Smooth Jazz' via 98.1 KISQ [KISS] FM HD2 [HD-Radio]
http://www.981kissfm.com/main.html

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:


I doubt anyone would play the drug reference song, as that would
likely fall under being outside community standards and subject a
station to a $325 thousand dollar per play fine.

Bull****. You can talk about drugs all you want. Get a grip.

There are some real practical limits... and they come to community
standards. A discussion of drug legalization is OK, while a person
giving instruction on how to best set up a bong might not.

Wrong. Read the Pacifica decision. It only covers sexual and excretory
depictions. Period.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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On 7/14/09 14:26 , David Eduardo wrote:

As evidenced by the hundreds of millions in fines assessed against
radio since 1977 for Clapton's "Cocaine."

We are, I think, talking about today. Most of what Stern did when on
terrestrial radio would likely get the FCC in a uproar today; stations
are fined when celebrities who are totally out of a network's control
utter cuss words.

"Cuss words" are not prohibited. Words that describe sexual or
excretory functions in an offensive manner are the only words prohibited
(with the usual "fire in a crowded theater" exception).

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"dave" wrote in message
m...
David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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On 7/14/09 14:26 , David Eduardo wrote:

As evidenced by the hundreds of millions in fines assessed against
radio since 1977 for Clapton's "Cocaine."

We are, I think, talking about today. Most of what Stern did when on
terrestrial radio would likely get the FCC in a uproar today; stations
are fined when celebrities who are totally out of a network's control
utter cuss words.

"Cuss words" are not prohibited. Words that describe sexual or excretory
functions in an offensive manner are the only words prohibited (with the
usual "fire in a crowded theater" exception).

That is just one part of the FCC's regulation of indecency. The rest is
contained in the vague mantra of "community standards" and while we have had
no list of prohibited words... even Carlin's set of 7 was never formally
prohibited... there is an understanding and belief that gratuitous profanity
and cussing would be subject to review.