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Barry[_3_] July 11th 09 01:16 AM

Hating Palin
 
Hating Palin
By Ben Voth

As a communication professional I have largely been at a loss to
explain the judgments being drawn about Governor Palin by allegedly
expert pundits. The general meme from pundits is that Palin is a
quitter who cannot take the heat.

It seems like the 'heat' has been more like hate -- maybe we are
dealing with a simple spelling error? Journalism has gotten rather
weak of late.

A public figure openly called for Palin to be raped during the
campaign. Months after the losing campaign was over, a major comedian
joked about the fictitious rape of one of her daughters. Immediately
after the election, her church was burned. It's fairly difficult to
reconcile this 'heat' as something conventional in politics. In fact,
there might be some good reason to collectively indict Palin critics
for their silent complicity.

This would go a long way to explain why many in the public seem more
drawn to Palin after the resignation and the absurd media reactions to
it. Keep in mind that these incidents remain unrepented public
attacks. The media refused to offer much comment on the burning of
Palin's church -- a silence which conveyed an implied endorsement of
that attack. Imagine if Obama had lost the election and Jeremiah
Wright's church had been burned. Where would the punditry be?

Given the peculiar failure of pundits to "understand" her July 3
statement, it is useful to return to the actual text of her
statement. With such attention we can discover some of the possible
confusion of pundits and reveal the largely ignored messages contained
in Governor Palin's statement. Most interesting is the discussion
about her children:


"In fact, this decision comes after much consideration, and finally
polling the most important people in my life -- my children (where the
count was unanimous... well, in response to asking: ‘Want me to make a
positive difference and fight for ALL our children's future from
OUTSIDE the Governor's office?' It was four "yes's" and one "hell
yeah!" The "hell yeah" sealed it - and someday I'll talk about the
details of that... I think much of it had to do with the kids seeing
their baby brother Trig mocked by some pretty mean-spirited adults
recently.) Um, by the way, sure wish folks could ever, ever understand
that we ALL could learn so much from someone like Trig -- I know he
needs me, but I need him even more... what a child can offer to set
priorities RIGHT -- that time is precious... the world needs more
‘Trigs', not fewer."


The mocking of a disabled child, Trig Palin, must stand out as one of
the most uniquely cruel and despicable contemporary trends of American
politics.

[ http://liberalfascism.nationalreview...BlZDdkMWY1NjY=
]

Could this be what Bill Clinton envisioned when he asked the nation to
bring to an end the politics of personal destruction in the 1990s? It
is clear that the entire Palin family would like to broaden their
advocacy beyond the borders of Alaska. What is also clear is that
pulsing at the center of Media contempt toward Palin is not simply
stated positions on abortion but real life actions that are so
striking and meaningful that they enrage a pretentious political
community [Liberal Fascists] feigning interest in "women's rights."

Palin was one of the rare political figures recently courageous enough
to defend Carrie Prejean -- another conservative woman who "needed" to
lose her job for speaking her mind on gay marriage. While Republicans
stood around and stared at their political feet, and Democrats cheered
from the sideline, Prejean was treated to a vicious rhetorical stoning
in the national media. Palin stepped into the fray and in defense of
another strong conservative woman. It is rather easy to see how Palin
envisions trading her provincial limits of Alaska for a national
pedestal on such transparent political problems confounding our
culture.

Palin's conclusion utilized a quotation from Douglas MacArthur -- an
American general famously dismissed by Democrat President Harry
Truman. Truman's dismissal of MacArthur and the ensuing public
controversy did great damage to Truman's public credibility. Despite
his rogue disposition, MacArthur continued through his rebuttals to
secure a place in history as a tough fighter on the military
battlefield as well as the political battlefield. Here again pundits
seem to miss the rhetorical boat about the larger fight Palin will
bring in the next campaign after an apparent "defeat in the
Philippines" of 2008.

Consider further the unique context of current events. Michael
Jackson is revered at his funeral as someone who really knew how to
love children -- unlike Sarah Palin who the Huffington Post reported
would be running on the "more retardation platform" in 2012.

[ http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...ation-platform
]

Governor Sanford gets a slap on the wrist from his Republican
colleagues and pundits agree -- he should not expect to resign. Could
life be more absurd?

Punditry confusion over Palin's decision and statement is a strategy
to absolve critics of their low moral stature in observing the
despicable cultural conduct toward Governor Palin and her family.
After all, America's political punditry does have an informal role as
referee. Some partisans were not unafraid to suggest that Palin had
crossed the line when she accused Obama of "palling around with
terrorists." It was in their view inappropriate and excessive. The
failure to fairly call the playing field of American politics has
rightly left the American public observing an obscene scene of
political mayhem. The scene clearly disgusts and offends the public
across the political spectrum. According to the current commentators,
all of the events since August 2008 are some sort of confused
nightmare from which we in the electorate can now awaken and come to
our senses. Nothing really happened since there was not a "real"
candidate in Governor Palin. For some in the politically elite
class, such absurd rationalizations will work, but for a sizable
component of the public who saw in Palin their own cultural and
political fortunes, these comments will serve as further fuel for
their partisan fires.

I suspect that many journalists watching their market shares evaporate
and their shareholders sell, are aware that the American public is not
sad to witness their collective demise. The stony silence among the
media class about the hateful vitriol dispensed upon Governor Palin
and her family has not gone unnoticed in the public. Whatever the
future of Governor Palin, it's a safe bet that her political career
will last longer than a great many pundits who make themselves
complicit in this disgraceful conduct of American politics and
culture.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...ing_palin.html

The best source of correct opinions for Liberals and Progessives:
http://www.thepeoplescube.com

Ayn't Rand July 11th 09 01:33 AM

Hating Palin
 
"Barry" wrote in message
...
Hating Palin
By Ben Voth

As a communication professional I have largely been at a loss to
explain the judgments being drawn about Governor Palin by allegedly
expert pundits. The general meme from pundits is that Palin is a
quitter who cannot take the heat.

It seems like the 'heat' has been more like hate -- maybe we are
dealing with a simple spelling error? Journalism has gotten rather
weak of late.

A public figure openly called for Palin to be raped during the
campaign.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Is this the same guy who parks his Cadillac in front of the welfare office
while he collects his check, or is this the guy who left Canada so he could
get heart surgery in Houston?

If you can't provide a cite, it's as phony as when Palin's political
opponents claim she stated that she could see Russia from her house.


No ObaMao July 11th 09 02:00 AM

Hating Palin
 
On Jul 10, 7:33*pm, "Ayn't Rand"
wrote:

Is this the same guy who parks his Cadillac in front of the welfare office
while he collects his check, or is this the guy who left Canada so he could
get heart surgery in Houston?


FACT: There are more MRI machines in the Minneapolis metro area than
in all of Socialist Canada.

If you can't provide a cite, it's as phony as when Palin's political
opponents claim she stated that she could see Russia from her house.


What? You don't have a mouse and a brain? "Ayn't Rand" that's fer
shur.

Clave July 11th 09 03:27 AM

Hating Palin
 

"Barry" wrote in message
...
Hating Palin
By Ben Voth

As a communication professional I have largely been at a loss to
explain the judgments being drawn about Governor Palin by allegedly
expert pundits. The general meme from pundits is that Palin is a
quitter who cannot take the heat.

It seems like the 'heat' has been more like hate -- maybe we are
dealing with a simple spelling error? Journalism has gotten rather
weak of late...


....drivel like this being an excellent example...



Nickname unavailable July 11th 09 06:26 AM

Hating Palin
 
On Jul 10, 7:16*pm, Barry wrote:
now this is fascism:The Bush administration built an unprecedented
surveillance operation far beyond the warrantless wiretapping, they
were running a program around the laws that Congress passed, including
a reinterpretation of the Fourth Amendment its mind boggling




http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090711/...c_surveillance

Report: Bush surveillance program was massive


By PAMELA HESS, Associated Press Writer – 2*mins*ago
WASHINGTON – The Bush administration built an unprecedented
surveillance operation to pull in mountains of information far beyond
the warrantless wiretapping previously acknowledged, a team of federal
inspectors general reported Friday, questioning the legal basis for
the effort but shielding almost all details on grounds they're still
too secret to reveal.
The report, compiled by five inspectors general, refers to
"unprecedented collection activities" by U.S. intelligence agencies
under an executive order signed by President George W. Bush after the
Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
Just what those activities involved remains classified, but the IGs
pointedly say that any continued use of the secret programs must be
"carefully monitored."
The report says too few relevant officials knew of the size and depth
of the program, let alone signed off on it. They particularly
criticize John Yoo, a deputy assistant attorney general who wrote
legal memos undergirding the policy. His boss, Attorney General John
Ashcroft, was not aware until March 2004 of the exact nature of the
intelligence operations beyond wiretapping that he had been approving
for the previous two and a half years, the report says.
Most of the intelligence leads generated under what was known as the
"President's Surveillance Program" did not have any connection to
terrorism, the report said. But FBI agents told the authors that the
"mere possibility of the leads producing useful information made
investigating the leads worthwhile."
The inspectors general interviewed more than 200 people inside and
outside the government, but five former Bush administration officials
refused to be questioned. They were Ashcroft, Yoo, former CIA Director
George Tenet, former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card and David
Addington, an aide to former Vice President Dick Cheney.
According to the report, Addington could personally decide who in the
administration was "read into" — allowed access to — the classified
program.
The only piece of the intelligence-gathering operation acknowledged by
the Bush White House was the wiretapping-without-warrants effort. The
administration admitted in 2005 that it had allowed the National
Security Agency to intercept international communications that passed
through U.S. cables without seeking court orders.
Although the report documents Bush administration policies, its
fallout could be a problem for the Obama administration if it
inherited any or all of the still-classified operations.
Bush brought the warrantless wiretapping program under the authority
of a secret court in 2006, and Congress authorized most of the
intercepts in a 2008 electronic surveillance law. The fate of the
remaining and still classified aspects of the wider surveillance
program is not clear from the report.
The report's revelations came the same day that House Democrats said
that CIA Director Leon Panetta had ordered one eight-year-old
classified program shut down after learning lawmakers had never been
apprised of its existence.
The IG report said that President Bush signed off on both the
warrantless wiretapping and other top-secret operations shortly after
Sept. 11 in a single presidential authorization. All the programs were
periodically reauthorized, but except for the acknowledged
wiretapping, they "remain highly classified."
The report says it's unclear how much valuable intelligence the
program has yielded.
The report, mandated by Congress last year, was delivered to lawmakers
Friday.
Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., told The Associated Press she was shocked
to learn of the existence of other classified programs beyond the
warrantless wiretapping.
Former Bush Attorney General Alberto Gonzales made a terse reference
to other classified programs in an August 2007 letter to Congress. But
Harman said that when she had asked Gonzales two years earlier if the
government was conducting any other undisclosed intelligence
activities, he denied it.
"He looked me in the eye and said 'no,'" she said Friday.
Robert Bork Jr., Gonzales' spokesman, said, "It has clearly been
determined that he did not intend to mislead anyone."
In the wake of the new report, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman
Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt, renewed his call Friday for a formal
nonpartisan inquiry into the government's information-gathering
programs.
Former CIA Director Michael Hayden — the primary architect of the
program_ told the report's authors that the surveillance was
"extremely valuable" in preventing further al-Qaida attacks. Hayden
said the operations amounted to an "early warning system" allowing top
officials to make critical judgments and carefully allocate national
security resources to counter threats.
Information gathered by the secret program played a limited role in
the FBI's overall counterterrorism efforts, according to the report.
Very few CIA analysts even knew about the program and therefore were
unable to fully exploit it in their counterrorism work, the report
said.
The report questioned the legal advice used by Bush to set up the
program, pinpointing omissions and questionable legal memos written by
Yoo, in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel. The Justice
Department withdrew the memos years ago.
The report says Yoo's analysis approving the program ignored a law
designed to restrict the government's authority to conduct electronic
surveillance during wartime, and did so without fully notifying
Congress. And it said flaws in Yoo's memos later presented "a serious
impediment" to recertifying the program.
Yoo insisted that the president's wiretapping program had only to
comply with Fourth Amendment protections against search and seizure —
but the report said Yoo ignored the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance
Act, which had previously overseen federal national security
surveillance.
"The notion that basically one person at the Justice Department, John
Yoo, and Hayden and the vice president's office were running a program
around the laws that Congress passed, including a reinterpretation of
the Fourth Amendment, is mind boggling," Harman said.
House Democrats are pressing for legislation that would expand
congressional access to secret intelligence briefings, but the White
House has threatened to veto it.

seon[_2_] July 11th 09 09:46 AM

Hating Palin
 
Quit yer whining ya crybaby.

"Barry" wrote in message
...
Hating Palin
By Ben Voth

As a communication professional I have largely been at a loss to
explain the judgments being drawn about Governor Palin by allegedly
expert pundits. The general meme from pundits is that Palin is a
quitter who cannot take the heat.

It seems like the 'heat' has been more like hate -- maybe we are
dealing with a simple spelling error? Journalism has gotten rather
weak of late.

A public figure openly called for Palin to be raped during the
campaign. Months after the losing campaign was over, a major comedian
joked about the fictitious rape of one of her daughters. Immediately
after the election, her church was burned. It's fairly difficult to
reconcile this 'heat' as something conventional in politics. In fact,
there might be some good reason to collectively indict Palin critics
for their silent complicity.

This would go a long way to explain why many in the public seem more
drawn to Palin after the resignation and the absurd media reactions to
it. Keep in mind that these incidents remain unrepented public
attacks. The media refused to offer much comment on the burning of
Palin's church -- a silence which conveyed an implied endorsement of
that attack. Imagine if Obama had lost the election and Jeremiah
Wright's church had been burned. Where would the punditry be?

Given the peculiar failure of pundits to "understand" her July 3
statement, it is useful to return to the actual text of her
statement. With such attention we can discover some of the possible
confusion of pundits and reveal the largely ignored messages contained
in Governor Palin's statement. Most interesting is the discussion
about her children:


"In fact, this decision comes after much consideration, and finally
polling the most important people in my life -- my children (where the
count was unanimous... well, in response to asking: ‘Want me to make a
positive difference and fight for ALL our children's future from
OUTSIDE the Governor's office?' It was four "yes's" and one "hell
yeah!" The "hell yeah" sealed it - and someday I'll talk about the
details of that... I think much of it had to do with the kids seeing
their baby brother Trig mocked by some pretty mean-spirited adults
recently.) Um, by the way, sure wish folks could ever, ever understand
that we ALL could learn so much from someone like Trig -- I know he
needs me, but I need him even more... what a child can offer to set
priorities RIGHT -- that time is precious... the world needs more
‘Trigs', not fewer."


The mocking of a disabled child, Trig Palin, must stand out as one of
the most uniquely cruel and despicable contemporary trends of American
politics.

[
http://liberalfascism.nationalreview...BlZDdkMWY1NjY=
]

Could this be what Bill Clinton envisioned when he asked the nation to
bring to an end the politics of personal destruction in the 1990s? It
is clear that the entire Palin family would like to broaden their
advocacy beyond the borders of Alaska. What is also clear is that
pulsing at the center of Media contempt toward Palin is not simply
stated positions on abortion but real life actions that are so
striking and meaningful that they enrage a pretentious political
community [Liberal Fascists] feigning interest in "women's rights."

Palin was one of the rare political figures recently courageous enough
to defend Carrie Prejean -- another conservative woman who "needed" to
lose her job for speaking her mind on gay marriage. While Republicans
stood around and stared at their political feet, and Democrats cheered
from the sideline, Prejean was treated to a vicious rhetorical stoning
in the national media. Palin stepped into the fray and in defense of
another strong conservative woman. It is rather easy to see how Palin
envisions trading her provincial limits of Alaska for a national
pedestal on such transparent political problems confounding our
culture.

Palin's conclusion utilized a quotation from Douglas MacArthur -- an
American general famously dismissed by Democrat President Harry
Truman. Truman's dismissal of MacArthur and the ensuing public
controversy did great damage to Truman's public credibility. Despite
his rogue disposition, MacArthur continued through his rebuttals to
secure a place in history as a tough fighter on the military
battlefield as well as the political battlefield. Here again pundits
seem to miss the rhetorical boat about the larger fight Palin will
bring in the next campaign after an apparent "defeat in the
Philippines" of 2008.

Consider further the unique context of current events. Michael
Jackson is revered at his funeral as someone who really knew how to
love children -- unlike Sarah Palin who the Huffington Post reported
would be running on the "more retardation platform" in 2012.

[
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...ation-platform
]

Governor Sanford gets a slap on the wrist from his Republican
colleagues and pundits agree -- he should not expect to resign. Could
life be more absurd?

Punditry confusion over Palin's decision and statement is a strategy
to absolve critics of their low moral stature in observing the
despicable cultural conduct toward Governor Palin and her family.
After all, America's political punditry does have an informal role as
referee. Some partisans were not unafraid to suggest that Palin had
crossed the line when she accused Obama of "palling around with
terrorists." It was in their view inappropriate and excessive. The
failure to fairly call the playing field of American politics has
rightly left the American public observing an obscene scene of
political mayhem. The scene clearly disgusts and offends the public
across the political spectrum. According to the current commentators,
all of the events since August 2008 are some sort of confused
nightmare from which we in the electorate can now awaken and come to
our senses. Nothing really happened since there was not a "real"
candidate in Governor Palin. For some in the politically elite
class, such absurd rationalizations will work, but for a sizable
component of the public who saw in Palin their own cultural and
political fortunes, these comments will serve as further fuel for
their partisan fires.

I suspect that many journalists watching their market shares evaporate
and their shareholders sell, are aware that the American public is not
sad to witness their collective demise. The stony silence among the
media class about the hateful vitriol dispensed upon Governor Palin
and her family has not gone unnoticed in the public. Whatever the
future of Governor Palin, it's a safe bet that her political career
will last longer than a great many pundits who make themselves
complicit in this disgraceful conduct of American politics and
culture.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...ing_palin.html

The best source of correct opinions for Liberals and Progessives:
http://www.thepeoplescube.com



dave July 11th 09 01:57 PM

Hating Palin
 
Ayn't Rand wrote:

If you can't provide a cite, it's as phony as when Palin's political
opponents claim she stated that she could see Russia from her house.


That was Tina Fey.

0baMa0 Tse Dung July 11th 09 02:07 PM

Hating Palin
 
On Jul 10, 9:27*pm, "Clave"
wrote:

...drivel like this being an excellent example...


Ja! HEIL HITLER HerR Liberal Fascist!


duke July 11th 09 02:17 PM

Hating Palin
 
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:16:04 -0700 (PDT), Barry
wrote:

Hating Palin
By Ben Voth

As a communication professional I have largely been at a loss to
explain the judgments being drawn about Governor Palin by allegedly
expert pundits. The general meme from pundits is that Palin is a
quitter who cannot take the heat.


The media is now admitting they picked on Sarah and ignored what Biden said.

The Dukester, American-American
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Joe from Kokomo[_2_] July 11th 09 03:35 PM

Hating Palin
 

Ayn't Rand wrote:

If you can't provide a cite, it's as phony as when Palin's political
opponents claim she stated that she could see Russia from her house.


dave wrote:

That was Tina Fey.


Yes. (The real) Palin, when asked of her international political
qualifications, just claimed that she could see Russia from a part of
Alaska -- a part of Alaska she had NEVER been to. Some qualification.
Bwahahahahaha!!!

Sorry, all you Palin lovers; spin it any way you want, but she still
comes across as an intellectual lightweight and a major league ditz.

That MILF vote will get you in trouble every time. Try using your big
head the next time you vote.


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