Shortwave Time Signals - Where have they gone?
 

D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 9/17/09 10:38 , Bill Baka wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4ab1aff9.1468062@chupacabra...
Brenda Ann wrote:
Remember when crystal
control used to mean excellent frequency control and stability?
Compared to mechanical escapement devices it was an amazing
breakthrough, such that 'quartz' became a buzzword of quality.
Back in the early 60s I dreamt for a quartz watch like the kind I threw
so many away when I started to get the solar atomic versions.

Yes, at one time, quartz watches used to be the mark of excellence,
but, like everything else, when they went to mega-mass production, the
quality control went to hell. Now, if you get a good mechanical watch
from the days of yore, there's a good chance it's considerably more
accurate.



Yeah,
That is why I still wear a Casio from 1981. It won't break and it keeps
time to about 5 seconds a month. 4 battery chances, 4 wrist straps, and
it keeps on going. I have even taken it diving (free air, about 25 feet)
and fallen off my boat many times (mostly planned).
It ain't broke so why buy a Chinese junker. Mine says proudly "Made in
Japan"

Bill Baka


In 84, I bought a quartz watch at Wal-Mart for $4. It kept perfect
time. I set it twice a year, at the change, and that was it.

My house got robbed in '87. They took it. Damn.

Today, I wear an automatic mechanical Seiko. Not quite as accurate,
but it never needs batteries, keeps excellent time, and I can read it in
the dark without my glasses.

Interesting how things come around.


Sorry to hear about your watch. The late 80's until early 90's were the
ones to buy, before this "Made in *Communist* China junk we are
saturated with.
Thank you China mart.

Bill Baka

Shortwave Time Signals - Where have they gone?
 

On Sep 17, 4:15*pm, Bill Baka wrote:
D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 9/17/09 10:38 , Bill Baka wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4ab1aff9.1468062@chupacabra...
Brenda Ann wrote:
Remember when crystal
control used to mean excellent frequency control and stability?
Compared to mechanical escapement devices it was an amazing
breakthrough, such that 'quartz' became a buzzword of quality.
Back in the early 60s I dreamt for a quartz watch like the kind I threw
so many away when I started to get the solar atomic versions.

Yes, at one time, quartz watches used to be the mark of excellence,
but, like everything else, when they went to mega-mass production, the
quality control went to hell. Now, if you get a good mechanical watch
from the days of yore, there's a good chance it's considerably more
accurate.

Yeah,
That is why I still wear a Casio from 1981. It won't break and it keeps
time to about 5 seconds a month. 4 battery chances, 4 wrist straps, and
it keeps on going. I have even taken it diving (free air, about 25 feet)
and fallen off my boat many times (mostly planned).
It ain't broke so why buy a Chinese junker. Mine says proudly "Made in
Japan"

Bill Baka

* In 84, I bought a quartz watch at Wal-Mart for $4. *It kept perfect
time. I set it twice a year, at the change, and that was it.

* My house got robbed in '87. They took it. Damn.

* Today, I wear an automatic mechanical Seiko. Not quite as accurate,
but it never needs batteries, keeps excellent time, and I can read it in
the dark without my glasses.

* Interesting how things come around.

Sorry to hear about your watch. The late 80's until early 90's were the
ones to buy, before this "Made in *Communist* China junk we are
saturated with.
Thank you China mart.

Bill Baka- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
____________________
Don't blame China - blame the American and European (all Western)
companies that out-sourced their manufacturing to Mexico(30 years ago)
and China(last 10 years) to save money and increase profits so that
the few at the top could live more richly.

China(and Mexico and Korea) just gladly accepted the new jobs into
their economy! It is those executive decisions that destroyed the
greatest Middle-class the galaxy has ever known. :.(..

-CC

Shortwave Time Signals - Where have they gone?
 

"ChrisCoaster" wrote in message
...
____________________
Don't blame China - blame the American and European (all Western)
companies that out-sourced their manufacturing to Mexico(30 years ago)
and China(last 10 years) to save money and increase profits so that
the few at the top could live more richly.

China(and Mexico and Korea) just gladly accepted the new jobs into
their economy! It is those executive decisions that destroyed the
greatest Middle-class the galaxy has ever known. :.(..

-CC

The middle class isn't gone.. it's just moved from the US to Korea. The
standard of living over here has increased exponentially since the mid 70's.

Shortwave Time Signals - Where have they gone?
 

On Sep 17, 7:54*pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:

The middle class isn't gone.. it's just moved from the US to Korea. The
standard of living over here has increased exponentially since the mid 70's.
________________
Again, thanks to short-sighted decisions of Western CEOs and business
leaders, and the politicians who accepted their donations!

-CC

Shortwave Time Signals - Where have they gone?
 

ChrisCoaster wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:15 pm, Bill Baka wrote:

Bill Baka- Hide quoted text -
____________________
Don't blame China - blame the American and European (all Western)
companies that out-sourced their manufacturing to Mexico(30 years ago)
and China(last 10 years) to save money and increase profits so that
the few at the top could live more richly.

I am not blaming China but rather the American entity know as
*cheapskates* who would give our county away like they have done.
Carter and Reagan should have found some way to tax and level the field.
The Bushes never had a clue and Obama is so overwhelmed he may not get a
chance to get something in before China start yelling "Protectionism".

China(and Mexico and Korea) just gladly accepted the new jobs into
their economy! It is those executive decisions that destroyed the
greatest Middle-class the galaxy has ever known. :.(..

-CC
Agreed.

Bill Baka

Shortwave Time Signals - Where have they gone?
 

On Sep 17, 1:15*pm, Bill Baka wrote:
D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 9/17/09 10:38 , Bill Baka wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4ab1aff9.1468062@chupacabra...
Brenda Ann wrote:
Remember when crystal
control used to mean excellent frequency control and stability?
Compared to mechanical escapement devices it was an amazing
breakthrough, such that 'quartz' became a buzzword of quality.
Back in the early 60s I dreamt for a quartz watch like the kind I threw
so many away when I started to get the solar atomic versions.

Yes, at one time, quartz watches used to be the mark of excellence,
but, like everything else, when they went to mega-mass production, the
quality control went to hell. Now, if you get a good mechanical watch
from the days of yore, there's a good chance it's considerably more
accurate.

Yeah,
That is why I still wear a Casio from 1981. It won't break and it keeps
time to about 5 seconds a month. 4 battery chances, 4 wrist straps, and
it keeps on going. I have even taken it diving (free air, about 25 feet)
and fallen off my boat many times (mostly planned).
It ain't broke so why buy a Chinese junker. Mine says proudly "Made in
Japan"

Bill Baka

* In 84, I bought a quartz watch at Wal-Mart for $4. *It kept perfect
time. I set it twice a year, at the change, and that was it.

* My house got robbed in '87. They took it. Damn.

* Today, I wear an automatic mechanical Seiko. Not quite as accurate,
but it never needs batteries, keeps excellent time, and I can read it in
the dark without my glasses.

* Interesting how things come around.

Sorry to hear about your watch. The late 80's until early 90's were the
ones to buy, before this "Made in *Communist* China junk we are
saturated with.
- Thank you China mart.
-
- Bill Baka

That's Great-Wall-of-China-Mart

http://www.americansongwriter.com/wp...10/walmart.jpg

Always thought that the "Wal*Mart" Logo
Branding should have featured a Red[*]Star
as Truth in Advertising.
http://www.underconsideration.com/br...go_history.gif

Shortwave Time Signals - Where have they gone?
 

On Sep 17, 5:56*pm, Bill Baka wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:15 pm, Bill Baka wrote:
Bill Baka- Hide quoted text -
____________________
Don't blame China - blame the American and European (all Western)
companies that out-sourced their manufacturing to Mexico(30 years ago)
and China(last 10 years) to save money and increase profits so that
the few at the top could live more richly.

I am not blaming China but rather the American entity know as
*cheapskates* who would give our county away like they have done.
Carter and Reagan should have found some way to tax and level the field.
The Bushes never had a clue and Obama is so overwhelmed he may not get a
chance to get something in before China start yelling "Protectionism".

China(and Mexico and Korea) just gladly accepted the new jobs into
their economy! *It is those executive decisions that destroyed the
greatest Middle-class the galaxy has ever known. *:.(..

-CC

Agreed.

Bill Baka

A National Sales Tax that is Levied on both
Domestic and Foreign Goods transfers the
Tax Burden from Incomes Charged-Off on
Only Domestic Goods and Distributes it
Equally on All Goods both Foreign and
Domestic.

Eliminate the Income Tax on Individuals
making up-to $200K and Replace it with
a National Sales Tax ~20%.

Flat Income Tax of ~40% on all Individual
Incomes over $200K and No Deductions [.]

Shortwave Time Signals - Where have they gone?
 

"Bill Baka" wrote in message
...
Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4ab1aff9.1468062@chupacabra...
Brenda Ann wrote:
Remember when crystal
control used to mean excellent frequency control and stability?
Compared to mechanical escapement devices it was an amazing
breakthrough, such that 'quartz' became a buzzword of quality.
Back in the early 60s I dreamt for a quartz watch like the kind I threw
so many away when I started to get the solar atomic versions.

Yes, at one time, quartz watches used to be the mark of excellence, but,
like everything else, when they went to mega-mass production, the quality
control went to hell. Now, if you get a good mechanical watch from the
days of yore, there's a good chance it's considerably more accurate.



Yeah,
That is why I still wear a Casio from 1981. It won't break and it keeps
time to about 5 seconds a month. 4 battery chances, 4 wrist straps, and it
keeps on going. I have even taken it diving (free air, about 25 feet) and
fallen off my boat many times (mostly planned).
It ain't broke so why buy a Chinese junker. Mine says proudly "Made in
Japan"

Bill Baka


Still using a 1905 Waltham pocket watch. Time keeping is good enough for a
retired person.


Steve R.


Steve R.

Shortwave Time Signals - Where have they gone?
 

~ RHF wrote:
On Sep 17, 5:56 pm, Bill Baka wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:15 pm, Bill Baka wrote:
Bill Baka- Hide quoted text -
____________________
Don't blame China - blame the American and European (all Western)
companies that out-sourced their manufacturing to Mexico(30 years ago)
and China(last 10 years) to save money and increase profits so that
the few at the top could live more richly.
I am not blaming China but rather the American entity know as
*cheapskates* who would give our county away like they have done.
Carter and Reagan should have found some way to tax and level the field.
The Bushes never had a clue and Obama is so overwhelmed he may not get a
chance to get something in before China start yelling "Protectionism".

China(and Mexico and Korea) just gladly accepted the new jobs into
their economy! It is those executive decisions that destroyed the
greatest Middle-class the galaxy has ever known. :.(..
-CC
Agreed.

Bill Baka

A National Sales Tax that is Levied on both
Domestic and Foreign Goods transfers the
Tax Burden from Incomes Charged-Off on
Only Domestic Goods and Distributes it
Equally on All Goods both Foreign and
Domestic.

Eliminate the Income Tax on Individuals
making up-to $200K and Replace it with
a National Sales Tax ~20%.

Flat Income Tax of ~40% on all Individual
Incomes over $200K and No Deductions [.]
.
Exempt food and drugs?

Shortwave Time Signals - Where have they gone?
 

On Sep 18, 4:59*am, dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
On Sep 17, 5:56 pm, Bill Baka wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:15 pm, Bill Baka wrote:
Bill Baka- Hide quoted text -
____________________
Don't blame China - blame the American and European (all Western)
companies that out-sourced their manufacturing to Mexico(30 years ago)
and China(last 10 years) to save money and increase profits so that
the few at the top could live more richly.
I am not blaming China but rather the American entity know as
*cheapskates* who would give our county away like they have done.
Carter and Reagan should have found some way to tax and level the field.
The Bushes never had a clue and Obama is so overwhelmed he may not get a
chance to get something in before China start yelling "Protectionism".

China(and Mexico and Korea) just gladly accepted the new jobs into
their economy! *It is those executive decisions that destroyed the
greatest Middle-class the galaxy has ever known. *:.(..
-CC
Agreed.

Bill Baka

A National Sales Tax that is Levied on both
Domestic and Foreign Goods transfers the
Tax Burden from Incomes Charged-Off on
Only Domestic Goods and Distributes it
Equally on All Goods both Foreign and
Domestic.

Eliminate the Income Tax on Individuals
making up-to $200K and Replace it with
a National Sales Tax ~20%.

Flat Income Tax of ~40% on all Individual
Incomes over $200K and No Deductions [.]
*.

- Exempt food and drugs?

no, No. NO ! Exemptions :
1st - You Earn Your Money {Income}
2nd - You Pay Your Taxes {Payroll Taxes}
3rd - With What's Left : You Buy Your Food
Result Today All Your Food, Water and
Air to Life is Already TAXED.

Illegal Drugs should be Double Taxes to Pay for
the Law Enforcement aspects and the Pre-Burial
{Medical} Costs of the Drug Abusers {Addicts}.

WHY a Higher Flat Income Tax for 'those' Earning
more than $200K because with a Flat National
Sales Tax System beyond the Normal Day-to-Day
Living Expenses the Rich Wealth High Income
Earners Don't Pay their Fair-Share of the Cost
of a Society.

idtars ~ RHF