Bob Dobbs wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:
How difficult is it to get a
source to accurately set one's watch?

Casio 'Solar Atomic' G-Shock


+1 on the G Shock Solar Atomic. Last watch I'll ever buy, I suspect.

On Sep 11, 5:02*pm, dave wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote:
ChrisCoasterwrote:
How difficult is it to get a
source to accurately set one's watch?

Casio 'Solar Atomic' G-Shock

+1 on the G Shock Solar Atomic. *Last watch I'll ever buy, I suspect.
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I DON'T want a watch or clock that sets itself.

What I meant by that question was, although most people can navigate
the buttons to set the watch, but they don't have access to an
accurate time source. I was alarmed by the spread at work, with
hourly beeps starting 6 minutes before the hour and some coming 2, 4,
or 5 minutes after the hour. Where DO people get their time?

-CC

ChrisCoaster wrote:
On Sep 11, 5:02 pm, dave wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote:
ChrisCoasterwrote:
How difficult is it to get a
source to accurately set one's watch?
Casio 'Solar Atomic' G-Shock
+1 on the G Shock Solar Atomic. Last watch I'll ever buy, I suspect.
_______________
I DON'T want a watch or clock that sets itself.

What I meant by that question was, although most people can navigate
the buttons to set the watch, but they don't have access to an
accurate time source. I was alarmed by the spread at work, with
hourly beeps starting 6 minutes before the hour and some coming 2, 4,
or 5 minutes after the hour. Where DO people get their time?

-CC

A GPS receiver is dead-on accurate.

Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:
On Sep 11, 5:02 pm, dave wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote:
ChrisCoasterwrote:
How difficult is it to get a
source to accurately set one's watch?
Casio 'Solar Atomic' G-Shock
+1 on the G Shock Solar Atomic. Last watch I'll ever buy, I suspect.
_______________
I DON'T want a watch or clock that sets itself.

What I meant by that question was, although most people can navigate
the buttons to set the watch, but they don't have access to an
accurate time source. I was alarmed by the spread at work, with
hourly beeps starting 6 minutes before the hour and some coming 2, 4,
or 5 minutes after the hour. Where DO people get their time?

-CC
A GPS receiver is dead-on accurate.

Might start that way after taking into account the red shift from the
constellation, but my Gamin has about a half second LCD refresh delay,
so that it isn't ever as accurate as the audible from Colorado.


I've only ever had one, a Magellan 300, and the time on it is always
within a half-second vs. WWV. I have a Casio Atomic I wear when I work
live shows, but they start a few seconds early for the profanity delay.
So the watch is still off, as far as the job at hand is concerned. I as
a rule do not wear a watch. I have lots of clocks.

I listen to the BBC World Service via web stream at vpr.net. They are
about 2 seconds late, which isn't bad for an internet stream. Clear
Channel's KTLK web stream is dead-on. They have a cool ID.

On Sep 12, 12:00*am, dave wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:
On Sep 11, 5:02 pm, dave wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote:
ChrisCoasterwrote:
How difficult is it to get a
source to accurately set one's watch?
Casio 'Solar Atomic' G-Shock
+1 on the G Shock Solar Atomic. *Last watch I'll ever buy, I suspect.
_______________
I DON'T want a watch or clock that sets itself.

What I meant by that question was, although most people can navigate
the buttons to set the watch, but they don't have access to an
accurate time source. *I was alarmed by the spread at work, with
hourly beeps starting 6 minutes before the hour and some coming 2, 4,
or 5 minutes after the hour. *Where DO people get their time?

-CC
A GPS receiver is dead-on accurate.

Might start that way after taking into account the red shift from the
constellation, but my Gamin has about a half second LCD refresh delay,
so that it isn't ever as accurate as the audible from Colorado.

I've only ever had one, a Magellan 300, and the time on it is always
within a half-second vs. WWV. *I have a Casio Atomic I wear when I work
live shows, but they start a few seconds early for the profanity delay.
So the watch is still off, as far as the job at hand is concerned. *I as
a rule do not wear a watch. *I have lots of clocks.

I listen to the BBC World Service via web stream at vpr.net. *They are
about 2 seconds late, which isn't bad for an internet stream. *Clear
Channel's KTLK web stream is dead-on. *They have a cool ID.- Hide quoted text -

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So pretty much, if one is using the tones from a RELIABLE radio
station, they can count on setting their watch approximately 5-10
seconds ahead(of that station) and probably be very close to WWVB or
WWVH.

-CC

On Sep 14, 7:12*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:

So pretty much, if one is using the tones from a RELIABLE radio
station, they can count on setting their watch approximately 5-10
seconds ahead(of that station) and probably be very close to WWVB or
WWVH.

Why not make that 'reliable' station WWV to start with?

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42
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Again, you and I are not "average" off-the-air consumers.

I should have clarified my statement "if {{an average Joe/Jane}} is
using the tones from {{1010 wins}}," Then synch timepiece to slightly
ahead of the tone from the station.

-CC

Bob Dobbs wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:
So pretty much, if one is using the tones from a RELIABLE radio
station, they can count on setting their watch approximately 5-10
seconds ahead(of that station) and probably be very close to WWVB or
WWVH.

Why not make that 'reliable' station WWV to start with?

WWV at 10.000000 MHz has been my station since 1957 and even though the
NBS has changed it's name to NIST, WWV remains untouched. Propagation
delay is on the order of 1000/183,000 miles per second so that leaves
about 5 milliseconds of error here in the sates.
What's the big deal?

Bill Baka

On Sep 11, 6:42*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote:
Where DO people get their time?

I get mine from NIST,
couldn't be arsed as to where anyone else gets theirs
or how far it is skewed in the process.

BTW: If ever I'm endowed with enough authoritative power,
I'll do away with 'savings time' for good.
and keep California off Arizona time like we are these days.

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42
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YEAH BABY!! I hear'ya about DST - save THIS!!
The only thing it does is make sunrises so freakin' late esp in March,
Oct and Nov.

I get mine from NIST too, Bob, but then, we are not "average
people".

I'd venture to guess that only 1 out of 10 homes has at least a
portable SW radio - like my G6 or one of the current Sangeans or
Sonys.
1 out of 100 probably has a good table model with external antenna run
up the roof.

Of the preceding two groups, only a fraction of those folks even know
what frequecies NIST transmits on.

1 out of 1000 is an Echo Charlie like yourself.

All the rest probably get the time off the news or when an announcer
(like Imus) says the time on AM or FM radio. If not that, then the
digital readout outside of many bank branches - none of which I've
seen closer to NIST time than 1 minute off.

Nobody at work can stand me because to them my watch is either "too
fast" or "too slow". LOLOL!

-CC