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[email protected] September 8th 09 03:20 AM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
I am still doetin on buying such a rig.Are there any online newsgroups
where people talk about Free To Air Satellite TV? I don't know which
Free To Air Satellite TV rig/equipment I should buy, there are so many
of them available.
cuhulin


dave September 8th 09 02:34 PM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
wrote:
I am still doetin on buying such a rig.Are there any online newsgroups
where people talk about Free To Air Satellite TV? I don't know which
Free To Air Satellite TV rig/equipment I should buy, there are so many
of them available.
cuhulin


You can get a card for your desktop that'll tune FTA MPEG satellites for
ca. $50. You'll need a dish, a mount, some cable and an LNB, and you're
good to go. What the **** is the mystery?

[email protected] September 8th 09 08:45 PM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
Mainly, I want to watch live Ireland and Scotland TV on Free To Air
Satellite TV, I don't want to tie up my computer with TV.Somebody once
said something (in another newsgroup) about a certain Satellite in orbit
over Gibralta.
cuhulin


Geoffrey S. Mendelson September 8th 09 10:14 PM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
wrote:
Mainly, I want to watch live Ireland and Scotland TV on Free To Air
Satellite TV, I don't want to tie up my computer with TV.Somebody once
said something (in another newsgroup) about a certain Satellite in orbit
over Gibralta.
cuhulin


Wow, did Gibraltar move to the equator? All geosynchronus satellites orbit
over the equator. What happens is there is a cluster of satellites that
orbit in what looks like the same spot to someone on the surface of the earth
all broadcasting on different frequencies. This is quite common.

One of them is used to relay the FTA broadcasts to the UK, Scotland and Wales.
In order to receive it you point an antenna at the cluster. The antenna needs
enough gain to receive a signal that can be decoded.

In order to reduce the size of the antenna needed, and to limit the
availability of programing, the satellites use as narrow aka "spot beam"
signal.

It just so happens that Gibraltar is close enough to receive the signals
with a larger than normal dish. I checked, and here in Jerusalem,
although I can "see" the satellites, I can not get enough signal with a
9 meter (30 foot) dish to be useable.

Since Gibraltar is an overseas territory of the UK, but not part of the UK
per se, they have very different copyright laws than the UK. It is legal
for them to put up a dish, receive the FTA signal and watch it. It is not
legal for them to sell the signals that they receive.

However, they can sell you bandwidth from their computers to yours. One
company will sell you bandwidth and free of charge (for the signal) fill it
with a UK TV signal they receive off of the FTA satellites.

Whether or not it is legal for you to receive the signal on the bandwidth
you purchase from them, varies from country to country. Whether or not it
is possible to have enough of the information contained in the bandwith
you purchased arrive at your computer fast enough and complete enough to
watch a TV signal is impossible to predict and may vary from day to day, or
even minute to minute.

In plain English, you search the web for them, you try their free trial if
they have one, and if not buy a month and try it. If it works, you may be
happy, if it does not, then you are out a little bit of money.

It would IMHO behoove you to spend the time and effort to find out if it
is legal where you live to do it, and what would happen if you were found out
if it is not.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel
N3OWJ/4X1GM

dave September 9th 09 01:06 PM

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wrote:

Most people using the smaller dishes are not going for the polar
mount, but are using the Motek SG2100. This motor is pirated all over
China, so who knows if you can get the real thing these days. Probably
not from ebay.

Then of course the FTA receiver. I got a Nuesat SP-6000 ($40) for
starters, but I'll probably upgrade,


Here's a You Tube tutorial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmN-c...eature=related

[email protected] September 9th 09 01:49 PM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
I don't know for sure, but I think three foot satellite dishes have been
outlawed here in Jackson,Mississippi.About nine years ago, with my WebTV
box, I could view a taped replay/digitally recorded/whatever, of a news
weather and sports tv program from a tv station in Dublin,Ireland.Of
course it was a sort of a stop action/break action viewing experience,
if you know what I mean? miso, can you actually pick up live Ireland and
Scotland (Wales too) tv with your satellite equipment? in good quality?
cuhulin


Bushcraftgregg September 9th 09 03:49 PM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
On Sep 9, 8:49*am, wrote:
I don't know for sure, but I think three foot satellite dishes have been
outlawed here in Jackson,Mississippi.About nine years ago, with my WebTV
box, I could view a taped replay/digitally recorded/whatever, of a news
weather and sports tv program from a tv station in Dublin,Ireland.Of
course it was a sort of a stop action/break action viewing experience,
if you know what I mean? miso, can you actually pick up live Ireland and
Scotland (Wales too) tv with your satellite equipment? in good quality?
cuhulin


This thread is fascinating.

Geoffrey S. Mendelson September 9th 09 03:59 PM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
wrote:
I don't know for sure, but I think three foot satellite dishes have been
outlawed here in Jackson,Mississippi.About nine years ago, with my WebTV
box, I could view a taped replay/digitally recorded/whatever, of a news
weather and sports tv program from a tv station in Dublin,Ireland.Of
course it was a sort of a stop action/break action viewing experience,
if you know what I mean? miso, can you actually pick up live Ireland and
Scotland (Wales too) tv with your satellite equipment? in good quality?


Look at:

http://www.dishpointer.com/

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

[email protected] September 9th 09 05:46 PM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
About three sumpin months ago, a guy was installing Dish Network
satellite tv equipment at one of the houses next door to doggy's couch.I
asked him if he knows about Free To Air (FTA) satellite tv, and if I buy
the equipment, will he install it for me.He said he knows about FTA and
he can't install FTA for me.(Company policy, I suppose, he could get
fired if he did) He also said most people in America don't know about
FTA.I think he is right.

I reckon as how I will lets my fangers do the walkin in my Jackson phone
book and see what I can find.I think those elderly people at the Hooper
Sound store on Terry Road might know.

Oh, Boo Hoo, Woe is me,,, Woe is me,,, all I wants to do is watch Live
Ireland and Scotland (Wales too) Free To Air Satellite TV.
cuhulin


[email protected][_2_] September 10th 09 06:41 AM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
On Sep 9, 5:49*am, wrote:
I don't know for sure, but I think three foot satellite dishes have been
outlawed here in Jackson,Mississippi.About nine years ago, with my WebTV
box, I could view a taped replay/digitally recorded/whatever, of a news
weather and sports tv program from a tv station in Dublin,Ireland.Of
course it was a sort of a stop action/break action viewing experience,
if you know what I mean? miso, can you actually pick up live Ireland and
Scotland (Wales too) tv with your satellite equipment? in good quality?
cuhulin


CONUS, there are no restrictions on dishes 1 meter or less, per FCC
and thus federal law. You may be able to use larger dishes, but
anything over 1 meter is subject to local restrictions. I wouldn't go
bigger than 1.2 meters.

The small dishes used by Dish or Direct won't cut it.

Many of the shows on FTA are available on the net. I haven't seen it
happen in the US, but the DoD has bought time on satellites targeted
to the EU and put UAV video on them.

I have a suspicion you will like the Saturday Night Knife and Gun
Show.
http://www.knifeandgunshow.com/


~ RHF September 10th 09 11:21 AM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
On Sep 9, 5:49*am, wrote:
- I don't know for sure, but I think three foot
- satellite dishes have been outlawed here in
- Jackson, Mississippi. About nine years ago,
- with my WebTV box, I could view a taped
- replay/digitally recorded/whatever, of a news
- weather and sports tv program from a tv station
- in Dublin,Ireland.
Of
course it was a sort of a stop action/break action viewing experience,
if you know what I mean? miso, can you actually pick up live Ireland and
Scotland (Wales too) tv with your satellite equipment? in good quality?
cuhulin


Many Mexican Restaurant's here in Northern California
have these 8 Foot Dishes on their Roofs, or in the back
for catching the TV Sports from Mexico.
http://www.satellitetheater.com/c-bandequip.html

-if- You place the Dish in your backyard and it is not
'visible' from the Street {Front of the House}
? Who is to Know ?

Just for the Fun of It : Hang an "IRA" Sign
on the Dish. IRA = Irish Radio Astronomy

Free-To-Air [FTA] Satellite Systems
http://www.aclcomputers.com/fta_satellite_systems.htm

Free-To-Air [FTA] North America
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-to-air#North_America
http://www.lyngsat.com/freetv/index.html

Free-To-Air [FTA] Learning Center
http://www.gosatellite.com/FTA-Learning-Center

Free-To-Air [FTA] Satellite Listing
http://www.gosatellite.com/FTA-Learn...ellite-Listing

How To Get Free Satellite TV With Free To Air, FTA
http://www.ehelpfultips.com/how_to_g...ite_tv_wit.htm

FortecFiles - Free-To-Air [FTA] Satellite TV Forum
http://www.fortecfiles.com/
-alt- http://www.abadss.com/

[email protected] September 10th 09 06:29 PM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
Don't do like Buck (the Dog) Bundy did,,, don't eat from the dumpster
behind that mexican resturant.
www.bundyology.com

Maybe I should buy a Lyngsat rig and take pot luck?
Does Lyngsat have a toll free phone number? Can I get Cymru Byd radio
station from Cardiff,Wales via Lyngsat?
www.lyngsat.com
cuhulin


Geoffrey S. Mendelson September 10th 09 08:44 PM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
wrote:

Maybe I should buy a Lyngsat rig and take pot luck?
Does Lyngsat have a toll free phone number? Can I get Cymru Byd radio
station from Cardiff,Wales via Lyngsat?
www.lyngsat.com


Lyngsat does not sell anything, they are a directory site. If you want an
FTA rig, you have to find an FTA satellite dealer in the area and get them
to install it.

If you are handy with tools, good at climbing on roofs, and have some math
and computer skills you can do it yourself. It's difficult because there is
a hard and an easy way to align the dish, and the easy way requires some
equipment that costs more than you would be willing to spend on the whole
enterprise.

Look at Lyngsat for the package you want to try and receive and then use
the site I posted in a previous link to see if you can receive the
signals you want. In the end once you determine that you can get what you
want from where you are with a dish you are willing to buy and can get
the permits you need (if any), you need to look and see if it will work.

Then you have to look up in the direction of the satellite (azimuth)
and at the angle it will be at (elevation) to make sure you have a clear
view of the sky. If there is a building or trees, etc in the way, you
will have to move the dish.

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

dave September 11th 09 02:32 AM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
wrote:
Don't do like Buck (the Dog) Bundy did,,, don't eat from the dumpster
behind that mexican resturant.
www.bundyology.com

Maybe I should buy a Lyngsat rig and take pot luck?
Does Lyngsat have a toll free phone number? Can I get Cymru Byd radio
station from Cardiff,Wales via Lyngsat?
www.lyngsat.com
cuhulin

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cymru/

dave September 11th 09 02:38 AM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
wrote:

Maybe I should buy a Lyngsat rig and take pot luck?
Does Lyngsat have a toll free phone number? Can I get Cymru Byd radio
station from Cardiff,Wales via Lyngsat?
www.lyngsat.com


Lyngsat does not sell anything, they are a directory site. If you want an
FTA rig, you have to find an FTA satellite dealer in the area and get them
to install it.

If you are handy with tools, good at climbing on roofs, and have some math
and computer skills you can do it yourself. It's difficult because there is
a hard and an easy way to align the dish, and the easy way requires some
equipment that costs more than you would be willing to spend on the whole
enterprise.

Look at Lyngsat for the package you want to try and receive and then use
the site I posted in a previous link to see if you can receive the
signals you want. In the end once you determine that you can get what you
want from where you are with a dish you are willing to buy and can get
the permits you need (if any), you need to look and see if it will work.

Then you have to look up in the direction of the satellite (azimuth)
and at the angle it will be at (elevation) to make sure you have a clear
view of the sky. If there is a building or trees, etc in the way, you
will have to move the dish.

Geoff.


I can find satellites pretty easily with a compass and an inclinometer.
I have my old Boy Scout compass, and the inclinometer came with an
Echostar (Houston Tracker) IRD self-install kit. I use Lyngsat and a
Standard receiver to fine aim, once I've gotten in the ballpark with the
crude tools. You can usually go to the satellite operator's page and
that'll tell you where to look on the compass for your area.

[email protected][_2_] September 14th 09 10:13 AM

(OT) Free To Air Satellite TV
 
On Sep 10, 6:32*pm, dave wrote:
wrote:
Don't do like Buck (the Dog) Bundy did,,, don't eat from the dumpster
behind that mexican resturant.
www.bundyology.com


Maybe I should buy a Lyngsat rig and take pot luck?
Does Lyngsat have a toll free phone number? Can I get Cymru Byd radio
station from Cardiff,Wales via Lyngsat?
www.lyngsat.com
cuhulin


http://www.bbc.co.uk/cymru/


Radio on these birds are not as well documented as TV. I guess there
is less interest. Given the rules in the non-commercial part of the FM
broadcast band, I bet there are many NPR type feeds on satelite. [If I
have the rules correctly, commercial FM translators have to receive
their station off the airwaves. Non-commercial stations are allowed a
satellite feed.


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