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We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
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GE SR I and II

239 countries heard and 224 QSL'd (veried, for those in Glendale) using the
NASWA Country List.

And, as always, don't let your children attend the Sullivan College of
Technology & Design.

They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD and lied about
being arrested, and who knows, there may be more dufi there.









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dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires
GE SR I and II



Nothing new on this. I got an email from Richard 2 weeks
ago. he said they are still working thru channels. this
may be developed and made in the UK, but i'm thinking
Japan has the last say. and, i will buy one, just not
the first run. set her up right there next to my 7030+.

Drifter...
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Drifter wrote:

dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires
GE SR I and II



Nothing new on this. I got an email from Richard 2 weeks
ago. he said they are still working thru channels. this
may be developed and made in the UK, but i'm thinking
Japan has the last say. and, i will buy one, just not
the first run. set her up right there next to my 7030+.


I am very curious as to what the final price will be. I was astounded when I
found out what the KWZ 50 finally priced out at.


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dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.


Apart from a sketchy drawing, there doesn't seem to any images out
there... Too bad

http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/gakuji7n4nj...ive/2008/08/24


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On Oct 13, 9:12*am, dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires
GE SR I and II

239 countries heard and 224 QSL'd (veried, for those in Glendale) using the
NASWA Country List.

And, as always, don't let your children attend the Sullivan College of
Technology & Design.

They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD and lied about
being arrested, and who knows, there may be more dufi there.


Why would anyone want to spend money on a high end shortwave radio?
Shortwave radio is DEAD!


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dxAce wrote:

Drifter wrote:

dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires
GE SR I and II


Nothing new on this. I got an email from Richard 2 weeks
ago. he said they are still working thru channels. this
may be developed and made in the UK, but i'm thinking
Japan has the last say. and, i will buy one, just not
the first run. set her up right there next to my 7030+.


I am very curious as to what the final price will be. I was astounded when I
found out what the KWZ 50 finally priced out at.


Hi Ace. prices are out of site. the used prices are killers.
i'm guessing over $2K, maybe closer to $3K.

Drifter...
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Drifter wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Drifter wrote:

dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.


Nothing new on this. I got an email from Richard 2 weeks
ago. he said they are still working thru channels. this
may be developed and made in the UK, but i'm thinking
Japan has the last say. and, i will buy one, just not
the first run. set her up right there next to my 7030+.


I am very curious as to what the final price will be. I was astounded when I
found out what the KWZ 50 finally priced out at.


Hi Ace. prices are out of site. the used prices are killers.
i'm guessing over $2K, maybe closer to $3K.


I guess I'll just stick with what I have now and let you give me your impressions
of the unit after you obtain one.

My Obama Money hasn't come through yet.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Bob Dobbs wrote:
John Plimmer wrote:
On Oct 14, 9:04 pm, dave wrote:
So what's wrong with the Perseus?- Hide quoted text -

Nothing - I've ordered one. When I have it I will shake it down and
let you know. But I disapprove of that type of DXing. I had a chat to
my son in Atlanta about it. He said my DXing was like a single line
sport fisherman, whereas Perseus is like seine net fishing where you
throw out a huge net and catch every fish in the ocean.

He said that's not sport - shame on you Dad.

So I have mixed feelings about Perseus and will see.

JP


Seems like I made some similar comments not that long ago,
but it was back before your trip to Atlanta,
so they might have rolled off the buffer of us oldsters memory.

Regardless of the panadapter, the radio has superior electrical
performance. I don't see any sport in receiving a 50 KW station, period.
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John Plimmer wrote:
On Oct 14, 7:47 pm, dave wrote:
John, the best receivers in the world are made here in the USA and in
Italy; why would Steve want a sand box from Asia?



Dave they make transceivers and they are not the best for our type of
SW/MW DXing, where top line audio is required. The K3 is no good on MW
at all and the audio is poor. The TT radio's are mainly on ham bands
only and their general coverage receive is mediocre.

Hams that want top audio always go for Icom = they are tops.

As for specs, you have to compare apples with apples. Sherwood tests
the radio's on the narrowest CW filter setting. If they were tested on
AM with a 4.5 kHz filter the Icom would come out way tops.

JP


Most of the hams I know who are looking for great audio are heading in
the direction of Ten-tec or Flex.

The Ten-tec Omni VII is general coverage, and I've heard very favorable
things about it's performance. The Orions have GC on the second
receiver though it's admittedly not as good as the primary rx. The Flex
radios are also GC.

An advantage Ten-tec has over Icom is they seem to be better about
supporting discontinued models. They'll also try to talk an owner
through diagnosing and fixing a radio on the phone.

I've read less about the Flex service as they're a newer company with a
smaller customer base. Frankly, while I've got plenty of computers
scattered about the house, I'm not excited about a radio that depends on
a computer to run.

Ten-tec and Flex are both made in the USA.

I'm researching HF rigs now, and at the moment, I'm leaning to the Omni
VII or possibly a Harris RF-5000 Falcon.
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On 10/15/09 14:47 , Mark S. Holden wrote:
John Plimmer wrote:
On Oct 14, 7:47 pm, dave wrote:
John, the best receivers in the world are made here in the USA and in
Italy; why would Steve want a sand box from Asia?



Dave they make transceivers and they are not the best for our type of
SW/MW DXing, where top line audio is required. The K3 is no good on MW
at all and the audio is poor. The TT radio's are mainly on ham bands
only and their general coverage receive is mediocre.

Hams that want top audio always go for Icom = they are tops.

As for specs, you have to compare apples with apples. Sherwood tests
the radio's on the narrowest CW filter setting. If they were tested on
AM with a 4.5 kHz filter the Icom would come out way tops.

JP


Most of the hams I know who are looking for great audio are heading in
the direction of Ten-tec or Flex.

The Ten-tec Omni VII is general coverage, and I've heard very favorable
things about it's performance. The Orions have GC on the second receiver
though it's admittedly not as good as the primary rx. The Flex radios
are also GC.

An advantage Ten-tec has over Icom is they seem to be better about
supporting discontinued models. They'll also try to talk an owner
through diagnosing and fixing a radio on the phone.

I've read less about the Flex service as they're a newer company with a
smaller customer base. Frankly, while I've got plenty of computers
scattered about the house, I'm not excited about a radio that depends on
a computer to run.

Ten-tec and Flex are both made in the USA.

I'm researching HF rigs now, and at the moment, I'm leaning to the Omni
VII or possibly a Harris RF-5000 Falcon.



I've worked with both Ten-Tec and Icom service. Icom is fairly
institutional. They're good. But they're pretty rigid. Ten-Tec is a
lot more personable. And, you're right, they'll fix a rig over the
phone, if you'd like. I like that.

When they've had a rig of mine, it's always come back well
packed, cleaned, and cost effectively serviced, but serviced right.

Icom, one time, required a second trip back to Bellevue to
address an issue that they'd missed. They did pick up the extra
shipping, and they did a nice job of the service issues. Packed
well, but not cleaned and dressed as well as Icom.

Costs are about the same.

Of the two, I'd make Ten-Tec a preference in my next purchase.



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