Still Waiting... AOR AR7070
 

We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires
GE SR I and II

239 countries heard and 224 QSL'd (veried, for those in Glendale) using the
NASWA Country List.

And, as always, don't let your children attend the Sullivan College of
Technology & Design.

They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD and lied about
being arrested, and who knows, there may be more dufi there.

Still Waiting... AOR AR7070
 

dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires
GE SR I and II



Nothing new on this. I got an email from Richard 2 weeks
ago. he said they are still working thru channels. this
may be developed and made in the UK, but i'm thinking
Japan has the last say. and, i will buy one, just not
the first run. set her up right there next to my 7030+.

Drifter...

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Drifter wrote:

dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires
GE SR I and II



Nothing new on this. I got an email from Richard 2 weeks
ago. he said they are still working thru channels. this
may be developed and made in the UK, but i'm thinking
Japan has the last say. and, i will buy one, just not
the first run. set her up right there next to my 7030+.

I am very curious as to what the final price will be. I was astounded when I
found out what the KWZ 50 finally priced out at.

Still Waiting... AOR AR7070
 

dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.


Apart from a sketchy drawing, there doesn't seem to any images out
there... Too bad

http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/gakuji7n4nj...ive/2008/08/24


--
RigReference.com - Reference guide for ham radio equipment
http://rigreference.com/

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On Oct 13, 9:12*am, dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires
GE SR I and II

239 countries heard and 224 QSL'd (veried, for those in Glendale) using the
NASWA Country List.

And, as always, don't let your children attend the Sullivan College of
Technology & Design.

They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD and lied about
being arrested, and who knows, there may be more dufi there.

Why would anyone want to spend money on a high end shortwave radio?
Shortwave radio is DEAD!

Still Waiting... AOR AR7070
 

dxAce wrote:

Drifter wrote:

dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires
GE SR I and II


Nothing new on this. I got an email from Richard 2 weeks
ago. he said they are still working thru channels. this
may be developed and made in the UK, but i'm thinking
Japan has the last say. and, i will buy one, just not
the first run. set her up right there next to my 7030+.

I am very curious as to what the final price will be. I was astounded when I
found out what the KWZ 50 finally priced out at.


Hi Ace. prices are out of site. the used prices are killers.
i'm guessing over $2K, maybe closer to $3K.

Drifter...

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Drifter wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Drifter wrote:

dxAce wrote:
We are now into the 4th quarter of the year and still waiting...

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0070.html

I rather doubt that I'll purchase one, but still interested in the
concept/design.


Nothing new on this. I got an email from Richard 2 weeks
ago. he said they are still working thru channels. this
may be developed and made in the UK, but i'm thinking
Japan has the last say. and, i will buy one, just not
the first run. set her up right there next to my 7030+.

I am very curious as to what the final price will be. I was astounded when I
found out what the KWZ 50 finally priced out at.


Hi Ace. prices are out of site. the used prices are killers.
i'm guessing over $2K, maybe closer to $3K.

I guess I'll just stick with what I have now and let you give me your impressions
of the unit after you obtain one.

My Obama Money hasn't come through yet.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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Bob Dobbs wrote:
John Plimmer wrote:
On Oct 14, 9:04 pm, dave wrote:
So what's wrong with the Perseus?- Hide quoted text -

Nothing - I've ordered one. When I have it I will shake it down and
let you know. But I disapprove of that type of DXing. I had a chat to
my son in Atlanta about it. He said my DXing was like a single line
sport fisherman, whereas Perseus is like seine net fishing where you
throw out a huge net and catch every fish in the ocean.

He said that's not sport - shame on you Dad.

So I have mixed feelings about Perseus and will see.

JP

Seems like I made some similar comments not that long ago,
but it was back before your trip to Atlanta,
so they might have rolled off the buffer of us oldsters memory.

Regardless of the panadapter, the radio has superior electrical
performance. I don't see any sport in receiving a 50 KW station, period.

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John Plimmer wrote:
On Oct 14, 7:47 pm, dave wrote:
John, the best receivers in the world are made here in the USA and in
Italy; why would Steve want a sand box from Asia?


Dave they make transceivers and they are not the best for our type of
SW/MW DXing, where top line audio is required. The K3 is no good on MW
at all and the audio is poor. The TT radio's are mainly on ham bands
only and their general coverage receive is mediocre.

Hams that want top audio always go for Icom = they are tops.

As for specs, you have to compare apples with apples. Sherwood tests
the radio's on the narrowest CW filter setting. If they were tested on
AM with a 4.5 kHz filter the Icom would come out way tops.

JP

Most of the hams I know who are looking for great audio are heading in
the direction of Ten-tec or Flex.

The Ten-tec Omni VII is general coverage, and I've heard very favorable
things about it's performance. The Orions have GC on the second
receiver though it's admittedly not as good as the primary rx. The Flex
radios are also GC.

An advantage Ten-tec has over Icom is they seem to be better about
supporting discontinued models. They'll also try to talk an owner
through diagnosing and fixing a radio on the phone.

I've read less about the Flex service as they're a newer company with a
smaller customer base. Frankly, while I've got plenty of computers
scattered about the house, I'm not excited about a radio that depends on
a computer to run.

Ten-tec and Flex are both made in the USA.

I'm researching HF rigs now, and at the moment, I'm leaning to the Omni
VII or possibly a Harris RF-5000 Falcon.

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On 10/15/09 14:47 , Mark S. Holden wrote:
John Plimmer wrote:
On Oct 14, 7:47 pm, dave wrote:
John, the best receivers in the world are made here in the USA and in
Italy; why would Steve want a sand box from Asia?


Dave they make transceivers and they are not the best for our type of
SW/MW DXing, where top line audio is required. The K3 is no good on MW
at all and the audio is poor. The TT radio's are mainly on ham bands
only and their general coverage receive is mediocre.

Hams that want top audio always go for Icom = they are tops.

As for specs, you have to compare apples with apples. Sherwood tests
the radio's on the narrowest CW filter setting. If they were tested on
AM with a 4.5 kHz filter the Icom would come out way tops.

JP

Most of the hams I know who are looking for great audio are heading in
the direction of Ten-tec or Flex.

The Ten-tec Omni VII is general coverage, and I've heard very favorable
things about it's performance. The Orions have GC on the second receiver
though it's admittedly not as good as the primary rx. The Flex radios
are also GC.

An advantage Ten-tec has over Icom is they seem to be better about
supporting discontinued models. They'll also try to talk an owner
through diagnosing and fixing a radio on the phone.

I've read less about the Flex service as they're a newer company with a
smaller customer base. Frankly, while I've got plenty of computers
scattered about the house, I'm not excited about a radio that depends on
a computer to run.

Ten-tec and Flex are both made in the USA.

I'm researching HF rigs now, and at the moment, I'm leaning to the Omni
VII or possibly a Harris RF-5000 Falcon.


I've worked with both Ten-Tec and Icom service. Icom is fairly
institutional. They're good. But they're pretty rigid. Ten-Tec is a
lot more personable. And, you're right, they'll fix a rig over the
phone, if you'd like. I like that.

When they've had a rig of mine, it's always come back well
packed, cleaned, and cost effectively serviced, but serviced right.

Icom, one time, required a second trip back to Bellevue to
address an issue that they'd missed. They did pick up the extra
shipping, and they did a nice job of the service issues. Packed
well, but not cleaned and dressed as well as Icom.

Costs are about the same.

Of the two, I'd make Ten-Tec a preference in my next purchase.

Still Waiting... AOR AR7070
 

Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote:

I don't see any sport in receiving a 50 KW station, period.

Depending on the distance and adjacent stations,
even 50KW might seem a bit light.
Sometimes the 'sport' is in being able to dig something out from under a
strong local on an adjacent freq. Here in San Diego I use the blowtorch
KKOB 770 w/50KW (over 620 miles away) as a selectivity test against the
local KFMB 760 w/50KW night time (about 6 miles away) and aimed right at
me. Of the several receivers I have of varying capability, the results
aren't always consistent. There are times when a simple AM sync-det will
suffice, or switching to the upper sideband with reduced bandwidth and
other times when I have to use a very narrow bandwidth combined with a
significant shift of the passband.
Last night was a rough one as propagation didn't give any favor to NM.
Even 80m amateur was soft. Weird as WWV 2.5 and 5 were both strong,
maybe some piezoelectric effect of the lithosphere.
Are we due for an earthquake?


Always. I blame HAARP, not the lithosphere. I listen to 720, 740, 760,
770,780,790 and 810. I use my old Drake SW2 and a 60' random wire.

I have a GAP Titan DX vertical that's 35' straight up. All I have room
for (besides the RX antennas). My R-390A was a really good DX receiver;
pain in the ass to maintain and a power hog.

Still Waiting... AOR AR7070
 

Bob Dobbs wrote:
Mark S. Holden wrote:
An advantage Ten-tec has over Icom is they seem to be better about
supporting discontinued models. They'll also try to talk an owner
through diagnosing and fixing a radio on the phone.

With the proliferation of SMD, there's not much an 'owner' can do,
combined with the low failure rate for Icom, probably doesn't justify an
extensive customer phone support facility.


You can swap-out boards inside. Ten Tec is very sparse inside. SMD's
fun. You just need to be able to see what you're doing and you must
have the right tip.

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Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote:
Always. I blame HAARP,

That's a UHF gimmick that is designed to affect the ionosphere which at
night isn't as much a player as the lithosphere hugging "D" layer for
the frequencies I was referring to (low SW and MW)

I listen to 720, 740, 760,
770,780,790 and 810.

Do you have any blowtorches nearby
or is your isolated location an ideal?

I use my old Drake SW2 and a 60' random wire.

I have an indeterminate length wire (several hundred feet or more)
but it's plagued with noise here in town.


I have a 1 KW days/0.5 KW nights directional on 1220 about a mile away.
It makes single conversion AM radios whistle on other MW stations, but
it's too wimpy to affect any the Ten Tec or the ICOM or the Drake. It
might screw with the HF-150, which has a naked front-end.

I'm in the middle of a bedroom community with underground utilities.
The houses are all stucco with wire lath and foil faced insulation. It
is usually very quiet here.

Still Waiting... AOR AR7070
 

Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote:
Mark S. Holden wrote:
An advantage Ten-tec has over Icom is they seem to be better about
supporting discontinued models. They'll also try to talk an owner
through diagnosing and fixing a radio on the phone.
With the proliferation of SMD, there's not much an 'owner' can do,
combined with the low failure rate for Icom, probably doesn't justify an
extensive customer phone support facility.

You can swap-out boards inside. Ten Tec is very sparse inside. SMD's
fun. You just need to be able to see what you're doing and you must
have the right tip.

I've got some pretty serious 'coke bottles' but still don't do much with
SMD other than to do MARS/CAP mods occasionally.


You can rig a camera with a microscope and watch what you're doing on a
computer. Do you shake?

Still Waiting... AOR AR7070
 

Mark S. Holden wrote:
John Plimmer wrote:
On Oct 14, 7:47 pm, dave wrote:
John, the best receivers in the world are made here in the USA and in
Italy; why would Steve want a sand box from Asia?


Dave they make transceivers and they are not the best for our type of
SW/MW DXing, where top line audio is required. The K3 is no good on MW
at all and the audio is poor. The TT radio's are mainly on ham bands
only and their general coverage receive is mediocre.

Hams that want top audio always go for Icom = they are tops.

As for specs, you have to compare apples with apples. Sherwood tests
the radio's on the narrowest CW filter setting. If they were tested on
AM with a 4.5 kHz filter the Icom would come out way tops.

JP

Most of the hams I know who are looking for great audio are heading in
the direction of Ten-tec or Flex.

The Ten-tec Omni VII is general coverage, and I've heard very favorable
things about it's performance. The Orions have GC on the second
receiver though it's admittedly not as good as the primary rx. The Flex
radios are also GC.

An advantage Ten-tec has over Icom is they seem to be better about
supporting discontinued models. They'll also try to talk an owner
through diagnosing and fixing a radio on the phone.

I've read less about the Flex service as they're a newer company with a
smaller customer base. Frankly, while I've got plenty of computers
scattered about the house, I'm not excited about a radio that depends on
a computer to run.

Ten-tec and Flex are both made in the USA.

I'm researching HF rigs now, and at the moment, I'm leaning to the Omni
VII or possibly a Harris RF-5000 Falcon.

Mark, TT is first rate on service. on a trip south, i dropped off a 340,
my oldest son talked me out of. just wanted a tune up/ check it over,
maybe bring the old girl up to factory specs. 2 weeks later, i stopped
on the way back for pick-up. they not only cleaned it, brought it/alined
to factory specs, they up dated the software. the price was under
$50.00. i was floored. great service. now, if they had only got the
RX-350 right the first time. and, on another note, Harris is cool.
never used their service, but for a big buck, gov. type company, they
are great phone wise. got a RF-590H i use for ALE. it's like 10 maybe
12 years old. i had questions, they treated me like i just spent $15K
for a new receiver. all i can say is good people.

Drifter...