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N∅ ∅baMa∅[_2_] October 14th 09 01:37 PM

First they came for Fox News
 
MSNBC/Media matters says quarantining FOX News is not enough and
encourages folks to go at FOX news.

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....-for-fox-news/

http://mises.org/books/TRTS/

Christopher Helms October 14th 09 02:12 PM

First they came for Fox News
 
On Oct 14, 7:37*am, N∅ ∅baMa∅
wrote:
MSNBC/Media matters says quarantining FOX News is not enough and
encourages “folks to go at FOX news.”



Legitimate criticism solidly based in fact is not "coming after Fox
News," there, Glenn and deflecting criticism by invoking the Holocaust
over something this minor is probably not the best idea.

Dumbed Down Opies October 14th 09 03:04 PM

First they came for Fox News
 

"Knifefight Afterdance" wrote in message
...
N^. ^.baMa^. wrote:
MSNBC/Media matters says quarantining FOX News is not enough and
encourages "folks to go at FOX news."

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....-they-came-for
-fox-news/

http://mises.org/books/TRTS/


Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.


Yeah, koo koo, koo koo. Call your Dad in Pakistan - Usama bin Dog****er..



N∅ ∅baMa∅[_2_] October 15th 09 12:42 AM

First they came for Fox News
 
On Oct 14, 9:18*am, Baron_Mind wrote:
"night light, underpants" regurgitated the usual right-wing ignorance:

Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.


That would be a logical fallacy..

--Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..


LOL!!! Ah yes, another brainwashed 0baMa0-bot heard from

http://liberalfascism.nationalreview.com/

N∅ ∅baMa∅[_2_] October 15th 09 12:46 AM

First they came for Fox News
 
On Oct 14, 8:12*am, Christopher Helms wrote:
On Oct 14, 7:37*am, N∅ ∅baMa∅
wrote:

MSNBC/Media matters says quarantining FOX News is not enough and
encourages “folks to go at FOX news.”


Legitimate criticism solidly based in fact is not "coming after Fox
News," there, Glenn and deflecting criticism by invoking the Holocaust
over something this minor is probably not the best idea.


Socialism and Fascism always ends in death and destruction.

RHF October 15th 09 03:06 AM

First they came for Fox News
 
On Oct 14, 7:18 am, Baron_Mind wrote:
"night light, underpants" regurgitated the usual right-wing ignorance:


- - Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.

The is nothing 'crypto' about Liberal-Fascist {ism}

The Liberal Elitist {Fascist} will let you know
that it is THEY {Who Are The Chosen Ones}
that are All Knowing and THEY Will Tell You
How To Live Your Life By Their Rules.

Recovering Liberals Casting-Off Their me, Me. ME ! Elitism
should go to Liberal's Anonymous [LA] Meetings and
repeat the Liberal's {Serenity} Prayer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer

God {Allah} Grant Me the Serenity {Political Sanity}
To Accept the Things I Can Not Change in Others
The Courage to Change the Things I Can in Myself
And the Wisdom To Know The Political Difference.

God {Allah} Grant Me the Respect for the Political
Beliefs and Rights of Others and Not to Violate
Their Basic Human Rights as Free Persons in a
Free Society of Equals.

God {Allah} Grant Me Spirit of Brotherhood and
Make Me the Equal of Everyman : Save Me from
trying to be an Overlord and Subjugator of My
Fellow Human Being to My Will and Beliefs.

- That would be a logical fallacy..

That's using 1930's Logic in the 21st Century.
which is a not living in the here-and-now fallacy.

- Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..

"ISMs" change and evolve with the passage
of time {decades} and the History of the 1930's
is not the Reality of Today's 21st Century.

Who Is A "Fascist"? & Who Is A "Liberal" ?
Are Some One And The Same ?
-aka- "Liberal-Fascist" ?
Can They Exist ? & Do They Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...9c9a87136d9a10

Baron_Mind October 15th 09 05:25 AM

First they came for "liberal media", then they made fools ofthemselves with Lush Dumbjaugh, Grim Dreck and Insanity with Clowns..
 
"no brainer" whimpered:

Baron_Mind was having a laugh, at the expense of:

"night light, underpants" regurgitated the usual right-wing ignorance:

Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.


That would be a logical fallacy..

--Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..


LOL!!! Ah yes, another brainwash


So, you cited a web-log to support your foolishness?

How quaint.. Now, for the historic facts..

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_...3/Fascism.html

Compared to Other Radical Right-Wing Ideologies

"Although fascism comes in many forms, not all radical
right-wing movements are fascist. In France in the 1890s,
for example, the Action Franaise movement started a
campaign to overthrow the democratic government of France
and restore the king to power. Although this movement
embraced the violence and the antidemocratic tendencies
of fascism, it did not develop the fascist myth of
revolutionary rebirth through popular power. There
have also been many movements that were simply nationalist
but with a right-wing political slant. In China, for example,
the Kuomintang (The Chinese National Peoples Party), led
by Chiang Kai-shek, fought leftist revolutionaries until
Communists won control of China in 1949. Throughout the
20th century this type of right-wing nationalism was
common in many military dictatorships in Latin America,
Africa, and Asia. Fascism should also be distinguished
from right-wing separatist movements that set out to
create a new nation-state rather than to regenerate an
existing one. This would exclude cases such as the Nazi puppet
regime in Croatia during World War II. This regime, known as
the Ustae government, relied on paramilitary groups to govern,
and hoped that their support for Nazism would enable Croatia
to break away from Yugoslavia. This separatist goal
distinguishes the Ustae from genuine fascist movements."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Position in the political spectrum

"Fascism is normally described as "extreme right",
but writers on the subject have often found placing
fascism on a conventional left-right political spectrum
difficult. There is a scholarly consensus that fascism
was influenced by both the left and the right. A number
of historians have regarded fascism either as a revolutionary
centrist doctrine, as a doctrine which mixes philosophies
of the left and the right, or as both of those things.

The historians Eugen Weber, David Renton, and Robert Soucy
view fascism as on the ideological right. Rod Stackelberg
argues that fascism opposes egalitarianism (particularly racial)
and democracy, which according to him are characteristics that
make it an extreme right-wing movement. Stanley Payne states
that pre-war fascism found a coherent identity through
alliances with right-wing movements. Roger Griffin argues
that since the end of World War II, fascist movements have
become intertwined with the radical right, describing certain
groups as part of a "fascist radical right".

Walter Laqueur says that historical fascism "did not belong
to the extreme Left, yet defining it as part of the extreme
Right is not very illuminating either", but that it "was
always a coalition between radical, populist ('fascist')
elements and others gravitating toward the extreme Right".
Payne says "fascists were unique in their hostility to all
the main established currents, left right and center",
noting that they allied with both left and right, but more
often the right. However, he contends that German Nazism
was closer to Russian communism than to any other non-communist
system."

RHF October 15th 09 09:42 AM

(OT) : Liberal's Anonymous [LA] Meetings
 
On Oct 14, 9:25*pm, Baron_Mind wrote:
"no brainer" whimpered:



Baron_Mind was having a laugh, at the expense of:


"night light, underpants" regurgitated the usual right-wing ignorance:


Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.


That would be a logical fallacy..


--Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..


LOL!!! Ah yes, another brainwash


So, you cited a web-log to support your foolishness?

How quaint.. *Now, for the historic facts..

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_...3/Fascism.html

Compared to Other Radical Right-Wing Ideologies

"Although fascism comes in many forms, not all radical
* right-wing movements are fascist. In France in the 1890s,
* for example, the Action Franaise movement started a
* campaign to overthrow the democratic government of France
* and restore the king to power. Although this movement
* embraced the violence and the antidemocratic tendencies
* of fascism, it did not develop the fascist myth of
* revolutionary rebirth through popular power. There
* have also been many movements that were simply nationalist
* but with a right-wing political slant. In China, for example,
* the Kuomintang (The Chinese National Peoples Party), led
* by Chiang Kai-shek, fought leftist revolutionaries until
* Communists won control of China in 1949. Throughout the
* 20th century this type of right-wing nationalism was
* common in many military dictatorships in Latin America,
* Africa, and Asia. Fascism should also be distinguished
* from right-wing separatist movements that set out to
* create a new nation-state rather than to regenerate an
* existing one. This would exclude cases such as the Nazi puppet
* regime in Croatia during World War II. This regime, known as
* the Ustae government, relied on paramilitary groups to govern,
* and hoped that their support for Nazism would enable Croatia
* to break away from Yugoslavia. This separatist goal
* distinguishes the Ustae from genuine fascist movements."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Position in the political spectrum

"Fascism is normally described as "extreme right",
* but writers on the subject have often found placing
* fascism on a conventional left-right political spectrum
* difficult. There is a scholarly consensus that fascism
* was influenced by both the left and the right. A number
* of historians have regarded fascism either as a revolutionary
* centrist doctrine, as a doctrine which mixes philosophies
* of the left and the right, or as both of those things.

* The historians Eugen Weber, David Renton, and Robert Soucy
* view fascism as on the ideological right. Rod Stackelberg
* argues that fascism opposes egalitarianism (particularly racial)
* and democracy, which according to him are characteristics that
* make it an extreme right-wing movement. Stanley Payne states
* that pre-war fascism found a coherent identity through
* alliances with right-wing movements. Roger Griffin argues
* that since the end of World War II, fascist movements have
* become intertwined with the radical right, describing certain
* groups as part of a "fascist radical right".

* Walter Laqueur says that historical fascism "did not belong
* to the extreme Left, yet defining it as part of the extreme
* Right is not very illuminating either", but that it "was
* always a coalition between radical, populist ('fascist')
* elements and others gravitating toward the extreme Right".
* Payne says "fascists were unique in their hostility to all
* the main established currents, left right and center",
* noting that they allied with both left and right, but more
* often the right.


- However, he contends that German Nazism
- was closer to Russian communism than to
- any other non-communist system."

Chinese 'Communism' {One Party Rule} Today
in the 21st Century is Uniquely Fascist :
The Great Leader {or One Party Leadership}
The Party United Behind The Great Leader
The People United Behind The Party

Recovering Liberals Casting-Off Their
me, Me. ME ! Elitism and should go to
Liberal's Anonymous [LA] Meetings and
repeat the Liberal's {Serenity} Prayer
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...198eaab596d11c

N∅ ∅baMa∅ October 15th 09 01:41 PM

First they came for "liberal media", then they made fools ofthemselves with Lush Dumbjaugh, Grim Dreck and Insanity with Clowns..
 
On Oct 14, 11:25*pm, Baron_Mind wrote:
"no brainer" whimpered:



Baron_Mind was having a laugh, at the expense of:


"night light, underpants" regurgitated the usual right-wing ignorance:


Everyone knows that liberals are crypto-fascists.


That would be a logical fallacy..


--Fascism has always been a right-wing ideology, per history..


LOL!!! Ah yes, another brainwash


So, you cited a web-log to support your foolishness?

How quaint.. *Now, for the historic facts..


I strongly suggest you visit a library and a book store and start
reading "the facts" about the roots of Fascism and its mother -
Progressivism and Neo-Liberalism.
Your naked ignorance reveals nothing more then your Communist rooted
propaganda lies.
Your ignorance is naked.

dave October 15th 09 01:50 PM

First they came for Fox News
 
RHF wrote:


"ISMs" change and evolve with the passage
of time {decades} and the History of the 1930's
is not the Reality of Today's 21st Century.


Bull****!

It's always been a war between the assholes and the cool people. The
suits and the dungarees. The Romans and the Christians. The British
and the American rebels. The fascists vs the socialists.


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