dave wrote:
John Galt wrote:
dave wrote:


Do you remember Iran-Contra? Reagan had more convicted staffers than
any president since Grant probably.

Nixon wins that metric, but Reagan had his share.

However, if you use that metric, the best president in modern times
was GW Bush, with zero convictions from the Cabinet or key staff.

I'm guessing you dislike that fact.

JG


You obviously don't remember Iran Contra.

I do very well. He wasn't under discussion.

JG

Herbert Pappy Bush never gets
any mess on himself. Too bad about Bill Casey.

dave wrote:
John Galt wrote:


Whatever floats your boat. I support free markets and getting the
government the hell out of the way. Hartmann doesn't.

JG


"...Greenspan, 82, acknowledged under questioning that he had made a
“mistake” in believing that banks, operating in their own self-interest,
would do what was necessary to protect their shareholders and
institutions. Greenspan called that “a flaw in the model ... that
defines how the world works.”...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27335454/

So much for what you support.

Not in the least. A flaw in the model doesn't mean you throw the model
away. You fix the flaw and move on. Greenspan went on to declare his
continued faith in the free market system.

So much for your puerile response.

JG

John Galt wrote:

dave wrote:
John Galt wrote:


Whatever floats your boat. I support free markets and getting the
government the hell out of the way. Hartmann doesn't.

JG


"...Greenspan, 82, acknowledged under questioning that he had made a
“mistake” in believing that banks, operating in their own self-interest,
would do what was necessary to protect their shareholders and
institutions. Greenspan called that “a flaw in the model ... that
defines how the world works.”...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27335454/

So much for what you support.

Not in the least. A flaw in the model doesn't mean you throw the model
away. You fix the flaw and move on. Greenspan went on to declare his
continued faith in the free market system.

So much for your puerile response.

It was a drug addled response as well!

He needs to be moved along to another country where he'd be much happier right
out of the box.

Hopey, hopey, changey, changey, lies right across some border!

dave wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
John Galt wrote:
dxAce wrote:
dave wrote:

What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its
objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens?

I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found
in a
free society. Are you a communist?

JG

I am an socialist libertarian.
And, a drug addled 'tard boy!


Precisely what I was thinking.

JG


He's trying to be cute..... so he used an oxymoron.


Socialism is 180 degrees out of phase with Libertarians. Both Socially
and economically.



Wrong, Bucko.

...In almost every case, the socialist movement has been divided along
authoritarian, and libertarian lines. The anarchists on the libertarian
side, and the Jacobins, Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, and reformist
state-socialists on the authoritarian side. (And liberals more or less
split down the middle.)...

2 dimensional political models are too simplistic to capture the
nuances. I can see that it would be attractive to those who need to boil
the world down into simplistic chunks, but that's not how it works.

Much better is this view, which does show the correct relationship
between libertarians and anarchists (which is sharing only a distrust of
goverment and no other motivations).

http://www.baen.com/chapters/axes.htm

Or this:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

JG






http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/libsoc.html

Toxic wrote:

Nixon wins that metric, but Reagan had his share.

However, if you use that metric, the best president in modern times was
GW Bush, with zero convictions from the Cabinet or key staff.


Irving Lewis "Scooter" Libby

Lung cancer?
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=278172
cuhulin

marxism - Summed up in seven words,,, Five Names/Born in Kenya!
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ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSS
www.rense.com/general88/simple.htm

Seeee, I Fixed the title of that article.
cuhulin, the Fixer

"John Galt" wrote in message
...
dave wrote:
John Galt wrote:
dave wrote:


Do you remember Iran-Contra? Reagan had more convicted staffers
than any president since Grant probably.

Nixon wins that metric, but Reagan had his share.

However, if you use that metric, the best president in modern
times was GW Bush, with zero convictions from the Cabinet or key
staff.

I'm guessing you dislike that fact.

JG


You obviously don't remember Iran Contra.

I do very well. He wasn't under discussion.

JG

Herbert Pappy Bush never gets
any mess on himself. Too bad about Bill Casey.
..
..
Incompetence is not illegal!

Sid9 wrote:
"John Galt" wrote in message
...
dave wrote:
John Galt wrote:
dave wrote:
Do you remember Iran-Contra? Reagan had more convicted staffers
than any president since Grant probably.
Nixon wins that metric, but Reagan had his share.

However, if you use that metric, the best president in modern
times was GW Bush, with zero convictions from the Cabinet or key
staff.

I'm guessing you dislike that fact.

JG

You obviously don't remember Iran Contra.
I do very well. He wasn't under discussion.

JG

Herbert Pappy Bush never gets
any mess on himself. Too bad about Bill Casey.
.
.
Incompetence is not illegal!



Very true.

JG

Sid9 wrote:
"John Galt" wrote in message
...
dave wrote:
John Galt wrote:
dave wrote:
Do you remember Iran-Contra? Reagan had more convicted staffers
than any president since Grant probably.
Nixon wins that metric, but Reagan had his share.

However, if you use that metric, the best president in modern
times was GW Bush, with zero convictions from the Cabinet or key
staff.

I'm guessing you dislike that fact.

JG

You obviously don't remember Iran Contra.
I do very well. He wasn't under discussion.

JG

Herbert Pappy Bush never gets
any mess on himself. Too bad about Bill Casey.
.
.
Incompetence is not illegal!

In government it is mandatory!!