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dave wrote:
John Galt wrote: dave wrote: John Galt wrote: Precisely the reaction heard from your party in 1978, when Reagan stated his intention to run. JG As a libertarian socialist I, by definition, am an NP. At least Reagan could speak English. And his tenure was a disaster, BTW. You are still paying off his blunders and plunders. He was indeed a disaster for anyone who believes that larger government represents some sort of solution to the ills of man. As to your opinion of his tenure, the consensus of professional historians and scholars differs from yours. I prefer to agree with the more scholarly analysis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histori...tes_Presidents JG Graph 2 tells the whole story, Bozo. http://www.sustainablemiddleclass.co...nequality.html What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens? I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a free society. Are you a communist? JG |
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What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens? I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a free society. Are you a communist? JG I am an socialist libertarian. High taxes were supposed to be used to prevent a permanent aristocracy, while benefiting society in general. That is a concept from our Founders (who were way smarter than Ayn Rand.) |
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dave wrote: What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens? I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a free society. Are you a communist? JG I am an socialist libertarian. And, a drug addled 'tard boy! |
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dxAce wrote:
dave wrote: What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens? I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a free society. Are you a communist? JG I am an socialist libertarian. And, a drug addled 'tard boy! Precisely what I was thinking. JG |
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John Galt wrote:
dxAce wrote: And, a drug addled 'tard boy! Precisely what I was thinking. JG There you go again... |
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John Galt wrote:
dxAce wrote: dave wrote: What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens? I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a free society. Are you a communist? JG I am an socialist libertarian. And, a drug addled 'tard boy! Precisely what I was thinking. JG He's trying to be cute..... so he used an oxymoron. Socialism is 180 degrees out of phase with Libertarians. Both Socially and economically. |
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Poetic Justice wrote:
John Galt wrote: dxAce wrote: dave wrote: What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens? I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a free society. Are you a communist? JG I am an socialist libertarian. And, a drug addled 'tard boy! Precisely what I was thinking. JG He's trying to be cute..... so he used an oxymoron. Socialism is 180 degrees out of phase with Libertarians. Both Socially and economically. Wrong, Bucko. ....In almost every case, the socialist movement has been divided along authoritarian, and libertarian lines. The anarchists on the libertarian side, and the Jacobins, Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, and reformist state-socialists on the authoritarian side. (And liberals more or less split down the middle.)... http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/libsoc.html |
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dave wrote:
What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens? I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a free society. Are you a communist? JG I am an socialist libertarian. A strong central goverment is antithetical to libertarianism. High taxes were supposed to be used to prevent a permanent aristocracy, while benefiting society in general. That is a concept from our Founders Interesting theory. One would have through it would not have taken us, then, 150 years to come up with the notion of income taxation. (who were way smarter than Ayn Rand.) Does that sort of "cheap shot" make you feel better about yourself and your views? JG |
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John Galt wrote:
Interesting theory. One would have through it would not have taken us, then, 150 years to come up with the notion of income taxation. (who were way smarter than Ayn Rand.) Does that sort of "cheap shot" make you feel better about yourself and your views? JG Totally. I don't believe in any government larger than a community. FYI, the entire cost of the Federal government was at one time paid for by tariffs and duties. Thom Hartmann may intrigue you. He has people from the Ayn Rand Institute on his program regularly. I was kind of philosophically adrift when I ran across Hartmann's radio show on XM back in 2002. I am not in lock-step with him, but he helped me get my bearings. Very lucid. http://www.thomhartmann.com/2007/11/...al-protection/ |
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dave wrote:
John Galt wrote: Interesting theory. One would have through it would not have taken us, then, 150 years to come up with the notion of income taxation. (who were way smarter than Ayn Rand.) Does that sort of "cheap shot" make you feel better about yourself and your views? JG Totally. I don't believe in any government larger than a community. That would be Galt's Gulch, then. FYI, the entire cost of the Federal government was at one time paid for by tariffs and duties. Never completely true. The government used to borrow in the debt market to fund various things. Read up on what Lincoln had to do to finance the Civil War. Fascinating read. If not for a single Jewish bond salesman, there might not have ever been a war. Thom Hartmann may intrigue you. Whatever floats your boat. I support free markets and getting the government the hell out of the way. Hartmann doesn't. JG He has people from the Ayn Rand Institute on his program regularly. I was kind of philosophically adrift when I ran across Hartmann's radio show on XM back in 2002. I am not in lock-step with him, but he helped me get my bearings. Very lucid. http://www.thomhartmann.com/2007/11/...al-protection/ |
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