What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its
objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens?

I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a
free society. Are you a communist?

JG

I am an socialist libertarian. High taxes were supposed to be used to
prevent a permanent aristocracy, while benefiting society in general.
That is a concept from our Founders (who were way smarter than Ayn Rand.)

dave wrote:


What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its
objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens?

I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a
free society. Are you a communist?

JG

I am an socialist libertarian.

And, a drug addled 'tard boy!

dxAce wrote:

dave wrote:

What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its
objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens?

I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a
free society. Are you a communist?

JG

I am an socialist libertarian.

And, a drug addled 'tard boy!


Precisely what I was thinking.

JG

John Galt wrote:
dxAce wrote:



And, a drug addled 'tard boy!


Precisely what I was thinking.

JG

There you go again...

John Galt wrote:
dxAce wrote:

dave wrote:

What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its
objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens?

I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a
free society. Are you a communist?

JG

I am an socialist libertarian.

And, a drug addled 'tard boy!


Precisely what I was thinking.

JG


He's trying to be cute..... so he used an oxymoron.


Socialism is 180 degrees out of phase with Libertarians. Both Socially
and economically.

Poetic Justice wrote:
John Galt wrote:
dxAce wrote:
dave wrote:

What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its
objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens?

I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a
free society. Are you a communist?

JG

I am an socialist libertarian.
And, a drug addled 'tard boy!


Precisely what I was thinking.

JG


He's trying to be cute..... so he used an oxymoron.


Socialism is 180 degrees out of phase with Libertarians. Both Socially
and economically.



Wrong, Bucko.

....In almost every case, the socialist movement has been divided along
authoritarian, and libertarian lines. The anarchists on the libertarian
side, and the Jacobins, Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, and reformist
state-socialists on the authoritarian side. (And liberals more or less
split down the middle.)...



http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/libsoc.html

dave wrote:
Poetic Justice wrote:
John Galt wrote:
dxAce wrote:
dave wrote:

What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its
objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens?

I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found
in a
free society. Are you a communist?

JG

I am an socialist libertarian.
And, a drug addled 'tard boy!


Precisely what I was thinking.

JG


He's trying to be cute..... so he used an oxymoron.


Socialism is 180 degrees out of phase with Libertarians. Both Socially
and economically.



Wrong, Bucko.

...In almost every case, the socialist movement has been divided along
authoritarian, and libertarian lines. The anarchists on the libertarian
side, and the Jacobins, Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, and reformist
state-socialists on the authoritarian side. (And liberals more or less
split down the middle.)...

2 dimensional political models are too simplistic to capture the
nuances. I can see that it would be attractive to those who need to boil
the world down into simplistic chunks, but that's not how it works.

Much better is this view, which does show the correct relationship
between libertarians and anarchists (which is sharing only a distrust of
goverment and no other motivations).

http://www.baen.com/chapters/axes.htm

Or this:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

JG






http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/libsoc.html

dave wrote:


What story is that? Do you believe that government has, as its
objective, to dictate the incomes of its citizens?

I'd disagree. That's more of a Soviet notion than one to be found in a
free society. Are you a communist?

JG

I am an socialist libertarian.

A strong central goverment is antithetical to libertarianism.

High taxes were supposed to be used to
prevent a permanent aristocracy, while benefiting society in general.
That is a concept from our Founders

Interesting theory. One would have through it would not have taken us,
then, 150 years to come up with the notion of income taxation.

(who were way smarter than Ayn Rand.)

Does that sort of "cheap shot" make you feel better about yourself and
your views?

JG

John Galt wrote:

Interesting theory. One would have through it would not have taken us,
then, 150 years to come up with the notion of income taxation.

(who were way smarter than Ayn Rand.)

Does that sort of "cheap shot" make you feel better about yourself and
your views?

JG


Totally. I don't believe in any government larger than a community.

FYI, the entire cost of the Federal government was at one time paid for
by tariffs and duties.

Thom Hartmann may intrigue you. He has people from the Ayn Rand
Institute on his program regularly. I was kind of philosophically
adrift when I ran across Hartmann's radio show on XM back in 2002. I am
not in lock-step with him, but he helped me get my bearings. Very lucid.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/2007/11/...al-protection/

dave wrote:
John Galt wrote:

Interesting theory. One would have through it would not have taken us,
then, 150 years to come up with the notion of income taxation.

(who were way smarter than Ayn Rand.)

Does that sort of "cheap shot" make you feel better about yourself and
your views?

JG


Totally. I don't believe in any government larger than a community.

That would be Galt's Gulch, then.

FYI, the entire cost of the Federal government was at one time paid for
by tariffs and duties.

Never completely true. The government used to borrow in the debt market
to fund various things. Read up on what Lincoln had to do to finance the
Civil War. Fascinating read. If not for a single Jewish bond salesman,
there might not have ever been a war.

Thom Hartmann may intrigue you.

Whatever floats your boat. I support free markets and getting the
government the hell out of the way. Hartmann doesn't.

JG


He has people from the Ayn Rand
Institute on his program regularly. I was kind of philosophically
adrift when I ran across Hartmann's radio show on XM back in 2002. I am
not in lock-step with him, but he helped me get my bearings. Very lucid.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/2007/11/...al-protection/