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"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message
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On Jan 22, 2:57 pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

Again, you seem to overlook a simple fact: Obama INHERITED not just one
but TWO expensive so-called wars with no exit strategy

Stevie Nichts wrote:

And yet, Obama assured us that he *had* an exit strategy
for Iraq -- and don't you remember him telling you that
Afghanistan was the important war? Sure you do!.

Hey Stevie...
Are ya sittin' down? Are ya ready for this?

I agree with you; we are on the same side of the fence on this one.

Obama was just telling the people what they wanted to hear -- and
they -desperately- want to hear that we are going to get out of those two
fiasco sink hole 'wars'. A politician that tells the people what they want
to hear -- how quaint! I'm sure no Republican politician ever did that.

But let's look a little deeper.

Poppy (Bush Sr.), in his book, stated that he did not invade Iraq because
"there was no exit strategy".

W painted us in a corner in both places -- we are screwed if we stay...and
we are screwed if we leave. Why? Because there is NO EXIT STRATEGY. Too
bad junior didn't listen to Poppy. And no easy solution for Obama, McCain
or anyone else.

So Muslim jihadists had been attacking the US at least since the taking of
hostages in Iran ... bombing of Khobar towers in Saudi Arabia, bombing two
US embassies in Africa, Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon, World Trade
Center I bombing and then flying planes into the WTC to name a few attacks
on the US. Also keep in mind that Saddam had not complied with the
agreement for 12 years to account for his WMD. What would be your next move
.... to keep talking ... the UN had done this for 12 years ... we got the
food for oil scam from the UN.

So, Obama said it, people are hoping he's right...but only time will tell.

I give Obama credit for going after Muslim jihadists and his stepping up the
use of military drones to attack Muslim jihadists around the world. I don't
support his handling of the enemy combatants.

and INHERITED a
major Depression -- that started on Bush's watch.

Say, when did the Democrats take over Congress?
Oh, right: 2006. Would you care to revise and extend
your remarks? And what's this about a "depression"?
Not even Krugman goes that far. Go on, do go on.

It DID start on Bush's watch as stated above, pegged at either 4Q '07 or 1
Q '08 by nothing less than the very right wing Wall Street Journal.

Keeping in mind that Congress was held by the Democrats as the US economy
started south ... Congress controls the money and legislation. 4Q '07 or
1st Q '08 there was a Democratic Congress ... what did they do?
Unemployment was about 4.6% at that time.

As to a "depression", it could be semantics... but it IS the worst
economic upset since 1929.

You have to realize that the gubermint fudges the figures; for example,
once your unemployment benefits run out, the gubermint takes you OFF the
list of the unemployed -- even though you still ARE unemployed.

inflation...the gubermint jockeys those numbers around too, by either
continuously changing the "market basket" of goods they use, or just plain
ignoring costs of education, medical care and energy.

Believe it or not, many do call this a Depression. Your mileage may vary.

Supreme Court reinstates First Amendment
 

On Jan 23, 12:32*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Stevie Nichts wrote:

True only of non-government unions. Govenment unions, however, now
account for 51% of all union members -- and climbing.

Huh? Government unions climbing?

Yup. And it's 52%:
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

What is newsworthy, however, is another figure reported
by the BLS: 52 percent of all union members work for the
federal or state and local governments, a sharp increase
from the 49 percent in 2008.[5] A majority of American
union members are now employed by the government;
three times more union members now work in the Post
Office than in the auto industry.[6]
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On Jan 23, 2:42*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

I list ONE person that I think should be added to the list of bad
presidents and I'm "seriously whacked"?
Stevie Nichts wrote:
Uh, no, Joe, Joe, Joe. You're seriously whacked because
you seem incapable of expressing a thought without
taking on a gratuitous insult.

Hey, every boy needs a hobby...

...and you don't seem to be doing too badly in the insult department
yourself. * ;-)

I only return what's dished out. If you don't like
it, well...

But it's not about me. Why don't you try addressing the original
contention of G.W. Bush belonging on the list of worst presidents?

Okay: I don't agree. Hope that helps.

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On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:46:34 -0800, pyjamarama wrote:

"We the corporate, in order to destroy any unions, establish injustice,
upset domestic tranquility, abuse the common defense for oil and profit,
remove public welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty for only our
rich people and our posterity, do ordain and rewrite this Constitution of
the United States of America. "

Supreme Court reinstates First Amendment
 

Joe Irvin wrote:

I read some of the reviews of the book Hookwinked ... its the same
old stuff ... the West (capitalism) is the cause of all the world's
problems

Well, not quite true...
He is a believer in capitalism -- but he contends that we currently
have, for lack of a better term, a perverted or mutant form of capitalism.

Who is it that responds to the world when it gets into trouble? In
Haitiwas it the evil West (US) or the middle eastern dictators that
respondedwith help? During the industrial revolution was it the
capitalist that wentout in the country side snatching people off
their subsistance farms andbringing them into the towns to work in
factories? ... their livingstandards were raised. Capitalism is the
reason the west has such a highliving standard. Read at least the
first half of the book and then let me know if you seeany problem.I
see a problem with any book that tends to blame the West generally
and theUS in particular for the world problems when the US is a nobel
nation andhas done so much in the world. I know the US isn't
perfect, but when itsjudged against other countries the US come out
pretty good IMO.

Joe, basically all I can say is to read the book. Yes, we as the
American people, are good. However, there is NO denying that our
government HAS tinkered with and fixed elections in several countries,
committed assassinations, poked our nose where it didn't belong and thus
created a lot of ill will (and worse). Like it or not and believe it or
not, that is a historical fact.

Again, IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THE BOOK, you would see that Perkins IS a
fan of, and believer in, capitalism (all the good things you say about
capitalism above are true), but not a fan of the perverted form of
capitalism we now have.

No sense in us going back and forth like this until you read at least
half the book. I am not Perkins nor can I do him justice unless I quote
(and type) a large portion of the book -- and I am not a fast typist.
:-) Therefore, I propose putting this thread on hold...

Supreme Court reinstates First Amendment
 

On Jan 23, 4:01*pm, Ima wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:46:34 -0800, pyjamarama wrote:

"We the corporate, in order to destroy any unions, establish injustice,
upset domestic tranquility, abuse the common defense for oil and profit,
remove public welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty for only our
rich people and our posterity, do ordain and rewrite this Constitution of
the United States of America. "

"We the leftists, in order to slake our unquenchable class-envy and
miserable dispositions demand all the free **** we feel we're entitled
to; to be paid for by those who work hard, sacrifice, risk capital and
otherwise out-produce us or we'll scream until we're blue in the
face."

Scream away, slappy....

America hears you and rejects you out-of-hand.

Supreme Court reinstates First Amendment
 

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Supreme Court reinstates First Amendment
 

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:58:48 -0800, pyjamarama wrote:

On Jan 23, 4:01Â*pm, Ima wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:46:34 -0800, pyjamarama wrote:

"We the corporate, in order to destroy any unions, establish injustice,
upset domestic tranquility, abuse the common defense for oil and
profit, remove public welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty for
only our rich people and our posterity, do ordain and rewrite this
Constitution of the United States of America. "

"We the leftists, in order to slake our unquenchable class-envy and
miserable dispositions demand all the free **** we feel we're entitled
to; to be paid for by those who work hard, sacrifice, risk capital and
otherwise out-produce us or we'll scream until we're blue in the face."

Scream away, slappy....

America hears you and rejects you out-of-hand.

I don't bow to your rich limpballs overlord or suck the cooperate dicks
that you do.

If you think this is about free ****, just wait till your job gets
exported, and or you get sick and loose your medical coverage. Or, your
retirement savings gets lost because the investment you put your savings
in (what?! you have no savings?!) looses all your money.

I'm quite center! You, are either quite rich or extremely stupid.

Supreme Court reinstates First Amendment
 

On Jan 23, 5:58*pm, pyjamarama wrote:


America hears you and rejects you out-of-hand.

Know the easiest and most accurate way to detect an extremist
fruitcake from either the left *or* right wings?

They invariably presume to speak for "America".

Supreme Court reinstates First Amendment
 

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 12:35:55 -0500, Mr.B1ack wrote:

wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:14:57 -0800 (PST), Stevie Nichts
wrote:

On Jan 22, 8:56Â*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:40:35 -0800 (PST), Stevie Nichts
wrote:

What you overlook is the simple fact that the Big Corporations
have TONS and TONS of money, waaay more than any union or "other
left-wing special interests" could ever hope to scrape up.

Y'know, I keep hearing about this boogeyman, but I've yet to see
stats to back it up.

Even a rudely educated twit knows that Union Dues cannot match the
massive wealth of corporations

Idiot.

Ah, another liberal who only understands insults. Okay, I'll speak
Liberal, just for you: Hey, asshole! Even a moron leftist knows that
unions aren't limited to union dues. They raise money through their
501s and 527s, and use it to elect liberal Democrats.

workers who give money to elect politicians are not the same as those
corporations who funnel tens of millions to elect politicians who
benefit only a small percentage of the wealth class.

And corporations are composed of WHAT exactly ? Aliens ? Robots ?
Devils ?

Nope. People.


more like ... hmm .. "rich person".
Not "real People", and more then likely not a person from America.

How about the owner of the FAUX network, who is Australian and has most
of his investments in Asia. He has allot to gain from the failure of
america. Where does the $400M for Ru$h come from when his advert sales do
not support this money?

What gets me the most is how people will believe a 30 second advert with
obvious falsehoods!
Short attention span?!

The real answer takes too much time to understand?!

Pretty sad when most of the civilized world laughs at the stupidity of
the united states when we vote in people like GW Bush or seriously
nominate someone like Pailin who obviously failed elementary school
geography. (Africa is not a country)