Alkalines versus NiMH
 

"kb9rqz" wrote in message
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On Mar 14, 12:24 pm, wrote:
I can easily belive the Energizer E2 lithiums work well. At
two dollars a battery (I can get eight cheap alkalines for
two bucks...).

Are lithium available in rechargable? Lithium ion maybe?

not yet they keep promising that but it is so far vaporware

I don't believe they will ever produce lithium ion AA's at 1.5 volts.
A lithium ion battery in a common or non proprietary package like the
AA package creates a dangerous situation. If one tries to charge it
in a common or non proprietary charger it may blow up.

so what if I screw up enough almost anything will blow up

http://ve7kfm.com/kb9rqz.html

INDEED!!!

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"not gav" wrote in message
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"kb9rqz" wrote in message
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On Mar 14, 12:24 pm, wrote:
I can easily belive the Energizer E2 lithiums work well. At
two dollars a battery (I can get eight cheap alkalines for
two bucks...).

Are lithium available in rechargable? Lithium ion maybe?

not yet they keep promising that but it is so far vaporware

I don't believe they will ever produce lithium ion AA's at 1.5 volts.
A lithium ion battery in a common or non proprietary package like the
AA package creates a dangerous situation. If one tries to charge it
in a common or non proprietary charger it may blow up.

so what if I screw up enough almost anything will blow up

http://ve7kfm.com/kb9rqz.html

INDEED!!!


Lithium Ion as we know it is about 3.6V anyway.

Most types of Lithium cells are between 3V and 3.7V.

It's only the Lithium/Iron Disulfide type that's around 1.5V (actually about
1.7V to 1.8V when new).
And AFAIK there isn't a recharable equivalent.

--

Brian Gregory. (In the UK)

To email me remove the letter vee.

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On Mar 14, 1:05*pm, "not gav" wrote:
"kb9rqz" wrote in message

...
On Mar 14, 12:24 pm, wrote: I can easily belive the Energizer E2 lithiums work well. At
two dollars a battery (I can get eight cheap alkalines for
two bucks...).

Are lithium available in rechargable? Lithium ion maybe?

not yet they keep promising that but it is so far vaporware

I don't believe they will ever produce lithium ion AA's at 1.5 volts.
A lithium ion battery in a common or non proprietary package like the
AA package creates a dangerous situation. If one tries to charge it
in a common or non proprietary charger it may blow up.

so what if I screw up enough almost anything will blow up

http://ve7kfm.com/kb9rqz.html

INDEED!!!

I like Lithium batteries just for the convenience. They last a LOT
longer than alkalines, and in fact I have some frequent-use devices
with Lithiums that have not needed a battery change for almost half a
decade. Some GMRS 1.5-watt walkie talkies, for example - I use them a
bunch in the summer, and they just keep on ticking. Also in bicycle
lights, etc. Well worth the price differential.

I wish they were readily available in C and D sizes.

Bruce Jensen

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Watchin the Three Stooges on teh AMC channel.I just now saw a new
J.G.Wentworth opera commercial.They are people riding in a city bus and
they are singing the opera song.

Calllll J.G.Wentworth 877 cash nowwwwwwwwww,,,,,,,
I have a stuctured settlement and I neeeeed cash nowwwwwwwww,,,,,,
cuhulin

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"kb9rqz" wrote in message
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On Mar 14, 4:05 pm, "not gav" wrote:

trure you ain't gav

trure

but LIth babtteries are nice


teh LIth babtteries are hard two beat indeed

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Ahh Likes dem thar Opera, J.G.Wentworth Opera telebishion (telebishion,
Dennis the Menance, telebishion and Cowboy Bob) commercials.
877 cash nowwwwwww,,,,,,,,,
Kelp!
cuhulin

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not gav wrote:
wrote in message
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On Mar 14, 4:05 pm, "not wrote:

trure you ain't gav

trure

but LIth babtteries are nice


teh LIth babtteries are hard two beat indeed



I don't like them. They die without warning. Li ion

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

Sometimes those lith batteries get too HOT and burn houses Down.
I Don't Like lith batteries either.I Flat Do NOT use them at all and I
Never Will!
I will Keep On Keeping On using Good Ray O Vac Alkaline Batteries.I have
been using Ray O Vac Batteries ever since the 1940s.They haven't let me
down yet.
Don't play with fire, you might get burnt.
cuhulin

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Staples tv commercial on Mike Rowe's Dirty Jobs, Discovery channel,,,
Hot diggity dog, tHats a low price! staples.com

Temperture inside my house,,, Hot diggity dog!,,, 77 degrees! LeeHets me
turn teh temp down!
cuhulin

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On Mar 17, 8:51*am, kb9rqz wrote:
On Mar 16, 7:21*pm, dave wrote:





not gav wrote:
*wrote in message
....
On Mar 14, 4:05 pm, "not *wrote:

trure you ain't gav

trure

but LIth babtteries are nice

* teh LIth babtteries are hard two beat indeed

I don't like them. *They die without warning. *Li ion- Hide quoted text -

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most of them seem to die without uch warning- Hide quoted text -

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I have to say, I have not had this problem. I usually see the device
begin to slow or dim or whatever it would normally do. It may be only
a half an hour 'til electron death, but it is not instantaneous, and
that's plenty of time for anything I use.

Bruce

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bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 8:51 am, wrote:
On Mar 16, 7:21 pm, wrote:





not gav wrote:
wrote in message
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On Mar 14, 4:05 pm, "not wrote:

trure you ain't gav

trure

but LIth babtteries are nice

teh LIth babtteries are hard two beat indeed

I don't like them. They die without warning. Li ion- Hide quoted text -

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most of them seem to die without uch warning- Hide quoted text -

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I have to say, I have not had this problem. I usually see the device
begin to slow or dim or whatever it would normally do. It may be only
a half an hour 'til electron death, but it is not instantaneous, and
that's plenty of time for anything I use.

Bruce
You don't do wireless mics for live TV.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

On Mar 17, 11:52*am, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 8:51 am, *wrote:
On Mar 16, 7:21 pm, *wrote:

not gav wrote:
* *wrote in message
...
On Mar 14, 4:05 pm, "not * *wrote:

trure you ain't gav

trure

but LIth babtteries are nice

* *teh LIth babtteries are hard two beat indeed

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most of them seem to die without uch warning- Hide quoted text -

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I have to say, I have not had this problem. *I usually see the device
begin to slow or dim or whatever it would normally do. *It may be only
a half an hour 'til electron death, but it is not instantaneous, and
that's plenty of time for anything I use.

Bruce

You don't do wireless mics for live TV.- Hide quoted text -

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This is true. I do occasionally - rarely - have the camera aimed at
me, though...

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bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:52 am, wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

that's plenty of time for anything I use.

Bruce

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This is true. I do occasionally - rarely - have the camera aimed at
me, though...

And you'd be ****ed if your mic died.

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On Mar 17, 1:55*pm, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:52 am, *wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
that's plenty of time for anything I use.

Bruce

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This is true. *I do occasionally - rarely - have the camera aimed at
me, though...

And you'd be ****ed if your mic died.

*Our* mikes are hard-wired, so NYAAAHHH! ;-)

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bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 1:55 pm, wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:52 am, wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
that's plenty of time for anything I use.

Bruce

You don't do wireless mics for live TV.- Hide quoted text -

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This is true. I do occasionally - rarely - have the camera aimed at
me, though...

And you'd be ****ed if your mic died.

*Our* mikes are hard-wired, so NYAAAHHH! ;-)

You'd still be ****ed if it died.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

On Mar 17, 3:03*pm, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 1:55 pm, *wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:52 am, * *wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
that's plenty of time for anything I use.

Bruce

You don't do wireless mics for live TV.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This is true. *I do occasionally - rarely - have the camera aimed at
me, though...

And you'd be ****ed if your mic died.

*Our* mikes are hard-wired, so NYAAAHHH! ;-)

You'd still be ****ed if it died.- Hide quoted text -

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heh! :-) At least it won't die from a battey...

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

At least one house in Limeyland BURNED DOWN because of a lith/li on
battery in a Dell computer.
SCREW THOSE batteries!
cuhulin

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

Relevant, how?

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"dave" wrote in message
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I have to say, I have not had this problem. I usually see
the device
begin to slow or dim or whatever it would normally do. It
may be only
a half an hour 'til electron death, but it is not
instantaneous, and
that's plenty of time for anything I use.

Bruce
You don't do wireless mics for live TV.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

So, you check the batteries every couple days.

--
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Learn more about Jesus
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"dave" wrote in message
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You don't do wireless mics for live TV.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

This is true. I do occasionally - rarely - have the
camera aimed at
me, though...

And you'd be ****ed if your mic died.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

On Mar 17, 5:30*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Relevant, how?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"dave" wrote in message

... I have to say, I have not had this problem. *I usually see
the device
begin to slow or dim or whatever it would normally do. *It
may be only
a half an hour 'til electron death, but it is not
instantaneous, and
that's plenty of time for anything I use.

Bruce

You don't do wireless mics for live TV.

The upshot is that when a wireless mike using NiMH cells on live TV
goes south, it screws up your TV show. That's reasonably relevant, I
thought.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

Stormin Mormon wrote:
So, you check the batteries every couple days.

The transmitters have battery telegraphs. There is a bar graph on the
receiver. Lithium batteries die quick. You have to change the
batteries as soon as the bar graph starts to fall. Alkalines will give
you another couple hours.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 5:30 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Relevant, how?


You don't do wireless mics for live TV.

The upshot is that when a wireless mike using NiMH cells on live TV
goes south, it screws up your TV show. That's reasonably relevant, I
thought.

We go through several 5 gallon buckets of AAs a year.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

On Mar 17, 8:50*pm, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 5:30 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
*wrote:
Relevant, how?

You don't do wireless mics for live TV.

The upshot is that when a wireless mike using NiMH cells on live TV
goes south, it screws up your TV show. *That's reasonably relevant, I
thought.

We go through several 5 gallon buckets of AAs a year.

What show is it, Dave? A local show or something that gets some
syndication or network exposure?

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

On 3/17/10 22:29 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 5:30 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Relevant, how?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

wrote in message

... I have to say, I have not had this problem. I usually see
the device
begin to slow or dim or whatever it would normally do. It
may be only
a half an hour 'til electron death, but it is not
instantaneous, and
that's plenty of time for anything I use.

Bruce

You don't do wireless mics for live TV.

The upshot is that when a wireless mike using NiMH cells on live TV
goes south, it screws up your TV show.

The life of the battery is more or less fixed. That is, it's a
consistent drain, and so life of a given battery line from fully
charged is the same unit to unit. You can count on the life of the
battery being a more or less constant number of hours.

Keep track of the hours on a battery, replace it at 2/3's of life.

I used all wireless mics on all my live radio, TV, and stage
shows. Never a problem with mics due to battery life.

I did notice some wireless mics were intermittent, from time to
time. Traced that to a poor battery fit. Returned from Energizers to
Duracells or ProCells and the problem never returned.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

Ever heard or read about wind up batteries? I think it was at
http://www.techchee.com
where I read about them a few weeks ago.
Chee!
cuhulin

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bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 8:50 pm, wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 5:30 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Relevant, how?

You don't do wireless mics for live TV.

The upshot is that when a wireless mike using NiMH cells on live TV
goes south, it screws up your TV show. That's reasonably relevant, I
thought.

We go through several 5 gallon buckets of AAs a year.

What show is it, Dave? A local show or something that gets some
syndication or network exposure?

I do live network shows. If you watch TV you've seen shows I work on.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

D. Peter Maus wrote:


I used all wireless mics on all my live radio, TV, and stage shows.
Never a problem with mics due to battery life.

I did notice some wireless mics were intermittent, from time to time.
Traced that to a poor battery fit. Returned from Energizers to Duracells
or ProCells and the problem never returned.


Sennheiser says Duracell/Procell isn't putting enough electrolyte in
their batteries lately and sometimes the paste compacts and makes
intermittent contact inside the battery.

I'll use Lithium for an actual 3 hour show, but for rehearsals, when
mics stay on stage for 4 or 5 hours sometimes, I prefer the alkalines,
so I don't have to interrupt an act in the middle of their rehearsal.
The less the truck sees of me the better.

Our pro stuff (Sennheiser and Shure) tells us the state of the
transmitter battery on the receiver front panel.

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I'm posting from rec radio cb. Somehow, I don't think they
use CB radios at a transmitter station.

--
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Learn more about Jesus
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"bpnjensen" wrote in message
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On Mar 17, 5:30 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Relevant, how?

--

You don't do wireless mics for live TV.

The upshot is that when a wireless mike using NiMH cells on
live TV
goes south, it screws up your TV show. That's reasonably
relevant, I
thought.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

Posting from rec.rado.cb;

Would you use this for mobile CB, or what?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"dave" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
So, you check the batteries every couple days.

The transmitters have battery telegraphs. There is a bar
graph on the
receiver. Lithium batteries die quick. You have to change
the
batteries as soon as the bar graph starts to fall.
Alkalines will give
you another couple hours.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

Posting from rec.radio.cb

Since most CB walkie talkies take 8 alkaline or 10 Nicads, I
can easily imagine that. Would it be more useful to use a
mobile or base radio? I guess you are probably outdoors.


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"dave" wrote in message
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We go through several 5 gallon buckets of AAs a year.

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Replace at 2/3 sounds useful. You wouldn't want to be out on
a hike, and have your CB go dead.

What do you do with the 1/3 charged batteries? Hope you
don't leave them out on in the woods, or desert or
something.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"D. Peter Maus" wrote in message
...


The life of the battery is more or less fixed. That is,
it's a
consistent drain, and so life of a given battery line from
fully
charged is the same unit to unit. You can count on the life
of the
battery being a more or less constant number of hours.

Keep track of the hours on a battery, replace it at 2/3's
of life.

I used all wireless mics on all my live radio, TV, and
stage
shows. Never a problem with mics due to battery life.

I did notice some wireless mics were intermittent, from
time to
time. Traced that to a poor battery fit. Returned from
Energizers to
Duracells or ProCells and the problem never returned.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

http://www.devilfinder.com
Windup Batteries techchee

Wind Up Battery by Qian Jiang

Maybe it was in one of my Popular Science snail mail magazines, DIY,
where I read about a windup battery.Ahh knows Ahh reads bouts it
summares.
cuhulin

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On Mar 18, 5:30*am, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 8:50 pm, *wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 17, 5:30 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
* *wrote:
Relevant, how?

You don't do wireless mics for live TV.

The upshot is that when a wireless mike using NiMH cells on live TV
goes south, it screws up your TV show. *That's reasonably relevant, I
thought.

We go through several 5 gallon buckets of AAs a year.

What show is it, Dave? *A local show or something that gets some
syndication or network exposure?

I do live network shows. *If you watch TV you've seen shows I work on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Which network? I rarely watch daytimes (virtually never); eves I
watch NCIS and some news shows.

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On 3/18/10 08:18 , Stormin Mormon wrote:
Replace at 2/3 sounds useful. You wouldn't want to be out on
a hike, and have your CB go dead.

What do you do with the 1/3 charged batteries? Hope you
don't leave them out on in the woods, or desert or
something.



No, not at all. They get pressed into other service requiring
less instantaneous demand, until they're dead. Some alkalines can be
recharged to 75% of new capacity. Those that can't are disposed of
at recycling centers.

For the most part, I use NiMH cells in wireless devices. Replace
at 2/3's charge service, and recharge.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

On 3/18/10 09:49 , bpnjensen wrote:


I
watch NCIS....



I knew there was a reason I liked you.

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On Mar 18, 8:14*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 3/18/10 09:49 , bpnjensen wrote:

I
watch NCIS....

* *I knew there was a reason I liked you.

LOL! NCIS, especially the Mark Harmon original series, is a great
show - excellent characters, decent plots, good attitude towards
military personnel.

As for me, I try - TRY, mind you - to like everyone, even when we
disagree to some extent politically. I don't always succeed - people
who refuse to actually *think* and prefer to mindlessly spout
ideological sludge - whether liberal or conservative - drive me crazy.

Bruce

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Stormin Mormon wrote:
I'm posting from rec radio cb. Somehow, I don't think they
use CB radios at a transmitter station.

Radio is radio

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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Posting from rec.rado.cb;

Would you use this for mobile CB, or what?


It applies to battery operated CB HTs as well.

Alkalines versus NiMH
 

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Replace at 2/3 sounds useful. You wouldn't want to be out on
a hike, and have your CB go dead.

What do you do with the 1/3 charged batteries? Hope you
don't leave them out on in the woods, or desert or
something.


We give ours to charities if they have any service left in them. We
e-waste the dead ones.

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bpnjensen wrote:


Which network? I rarely watch daytimes (virtually never); eves I
watch NCIS and some news shows.

All of them. I'm building Kids' Choice Awards on Monday for CBS. I
actually work for the audio subcontractor. We are very good at what we do.