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Although the grotesquely misnamed liberal, lefty and progressive radio
program Air America is off the air, its lies, its perverted mission
live on. Hoping to recoup some of their massive investment (and maybe
paying the bilked Bronx Boys' Club?), investors are holding a public
auction of all remaining assets. And I do mean all. In addition to the
usual office furniture and supplies, private intellectual property is
up for bid.

Yours maybe?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...ptcy_auct.html
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On Mar 29, 1:54*pm, dave wrote:


The Progressive Talk format continues to do OK.


"Progressive"? What's so "progressive" about promoting a Communist
tyranny?




*Air America never was a very good operation


Maybe ACORN should have run it.

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in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, DEFCON 88 said about:

"Progressive"? What's so "progressive" about promoting a Communist
tyranny?


Oh brother. Your kind, huh? Here's a poll
about your kind.

===========


But what else could be expected from Obama, whose spiritual
mentor gave Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award?


Oh gee! Rev. Jerimiah Wright did?
Just cuz Obama went to church there for 20 years!!???
.....but but but......
But I thought Obama was a Muslim!
Can you say doublethink? ...as in Orwellian brainwashing?
as in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink ?????

New Harris POLL:

http://news.harrisinteractive.com/pr...a tegory=1777

Mar 24, 2010
"Wingnuts" and President Obama

A socialist? A Muslim? Anti-American? The Anti-Christ? Large minorities of Americans
hold some "remarkable" opinions

Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America.
This Harris Poll seeks to measure how many people are involved.

It finds that Republicans believe that President Obama:
* Is a socialist (67%)
* Wants to take away Americans' right to own guns (61%)
* Is a Muslim (57%)
* Wants to turn over the sovereignty of the United States (51%)
* Has done many things that are unconstitutional (55%).
* Was not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president (45%)
* Is a "domestic enemy" (45%)


My, what whacko, brainwashed dittohead parrots you guys are.
How did THAT happen!? Easy:
USA Today/Gallup poll -- RUSH LIMBAUGH is the REPUBLICAN'S LEADER !
asked: "Who speaks for the Republican party today?"
LIMBAUGH...In every catigory: Both Republicans, Dems agree.
Dick Cheney is number two. That's right, Limbaugh & Cheney.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/120806/Li...aking-GOP.aspx

BUT WAIT! there's mo

Differences by education

These replies are also strongly correlated with education. The less education
people have had the more likely they are to believe all of these statements.
Consider these differences between those with no college education and those with
post-graduate education:

* He is a socialist (45% and 20%)
* He wants to take away Americans' right to own guns (45% and 19%)
* He is a Muslim (43% and 9%)
* He was not born in the United States so is not eligible to be president (32%
and 7%)
* He is a racist (28% and 9%)
* He is anti-American (27% and 9%)
* He is doing many of the things Hitler did (24% and 10%).

After reviewing these findings, John Avlon comments, "These new numbers are shocking
but not surprising – they detail the extent to which Wingnuts are hijacking our
politics. This poll should be a wake-up call to all Americans about the real costs
of using fear and hate to pump up hyper-partisanship. We are playing with dynamite
by demonizing our president and dividing our country in the process. Americans need
to remember the perspective that Wingnuts always forget – patriotism is more
important than partisanship."

So what?

So what indeed! These responses recall a favorite saying of our founder Lou Harris
that "when you don't want to publish a poll finding you dislike, you should get out
of the business." The very large numbers of people who believe all these things of
President Obama help to explain the size and strength of the Tea Party Movement, a
topic that will be addressed in another Harris Poll in a few days time.


TABLE 1

PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE VARIOUS STATEMENTS ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA ARE TRUE

"On another subject, here are some things people have said about President Obama.
Please indicate for each whether you
believe it is true or false."

=================

Education Political Philosophy Political Party

Total H.S. Some College Post Cons. Mod. Lib. Rep. Dem. Ind.
or less College Grad Grad
% % % % % % % % % % %

He is a socialist
40 45 38 42 20 67 30 15 67 14 42

He wants to take away Americans' right to own guns
38 45 37 32 19 63 28 15 61 17 39

He is a Muslim
32 43 30 24 9 51 26 16 57 15 29

He was not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president
25 32 22 21 7 41 19 10 45 8 24

Total H.S. Some College Post Cons. Mod. Lib. Rep. Dem. Ind.
or less College Grad Grad

He is a domestic enemy that the U.S. Constitutions speaks of
25 32 23 17 10 45 16 9 45 8 24

He is anti-American
23 27 22 20 9 43 14 8 41 7 22

He is doing many of the things that Hitler did
20 24 20 18 10 36 13 9 38 6 19


He may be the Anti-Christ
14 18 13 9 4 24 9 8 24 6 13

He wants the terrorists to win
13 16 11 11 6 23 9 6 22 5 12

many snips........
=================
Here is the TABLE 1 in nifty e-mail format (a pic). 32K
(Right-click the picture to download.)

http://tinypic.com/r/2my2gcy/5
or
http://i44.tinypic.com/2my2gcy.jpg

Tags: harris poll obama doublethink brainwashing

Please pass this on.....
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The insane twist the facts to fit their world view.
The rational change their world view to fit the facts.
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On Mar 29, 10:16*am, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 05:38:54 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung

wrote:
Although the grotesquely misnamed liberal, lefty and progressive radio
program Air America is off the air, its lies, its perverted mission
live on


Thus proving that the "left" simply doesn't need the overblown,
emotional laden, sham moralistic crap the rightwing does

Your "side" had NO historical basis for "feeling good" about policies,
initiatives, programs in all your miserable history

You NEED Faux to make you poor assholes feel good about yourselves

We don't


Yes you do http://www.globalmuseumoncommunism.org


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DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Mar 29, 1:54 pm, dave wrote:

The Progressive Talk format continues to do OK.


"Progressive"? What's so "progressive" about promoting a Communist
tyranny?



Air America never was a very good operation


Maybe ACORN should have run it.


You mad or something? No one is promoting a "communist tyranny". There
are a lot of fascists running around; perhaps you're confused.
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On Mar 29, 4:13Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
On Mar 29, 10:16Â*am, wrote:





On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 05:38:54 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung


wrote:
Although the grotesquely misnamed liberal, lefty and progressive radio
program Air America is off the air, its lies, its perverted mission
live on


Thus proving that the "left" simply doesn't need the overblown,
emotional laden, sham moralistic crap the rightwing does


Your "side" had NO historical basis for "feeling good" about policies,
initiatives, programs in all your miserable history


You NEED Faux to make you poor assholes feel good about yourselves


We don't


Yes you dohttp://www.globalmuseumoncommunism.org


Long live Communism! Hooray!

I whistle the Internationale while I throw darts at the Constitution!
What fun!
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bpnjensen wrote:

...while I throw darts at the Constitution!


Why not?

George W. Bush said "It's just a piece of paper".

Heck of a job, Georgie!
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On Mar 29, 12:37*pm, DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Mar 29, 1:54*pm, dave wrote:



The Progressive Talk format continues to do OK.


"Progressive"? What's so "progressive" about promoting a Communist
tyranny?

They don't!


*Air America never was a very good operation


Maybe ACORN should have run it.


The Progressive format lives on regardless of Air America!
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On 3/29/10 20:59 , MACK DADDY wrote:
On Mar 29, 12:37 pm, DEFCON wrote:
On Mar 29, 1:54 pm, wrote:



The Progressive Talk format continues to do OK.


"Progressive"? What's so "progressive" about promoting a Communist
tyranny?

They don't!


Air America never was a very good operation


Maybe ACORN should have run it.


The Progressive format lives on regardless of Air America!




There is no Progressive format. There is Progressive CONTENT. But
Not a Progressive format.

Progressive content in the US has existed since the US. What set
Air America apart from the current, previous, and future content, is
that they put politics before the sound business model. It's been
demonstrated multiple times that progressive content may exist in a
profitable business model. Air America's undoing is that they did
not establish a working business model before they opened the doors.
Had they done THAT, they would be in business, today.

Several things they did that were their undoing, of which the
most significant: They did not build their network based on a stable
of broadcasters. Of their prime players, only Randi Rhodes was a
broadcaster. And she was the only one who had made a commitment to
Radio as a career. Al Franken, the anchor of the network, went on
to say...on the air, no less...repeatedly that he had only signed a
short term contract, and did not know how long he would be remaining
in Radio.

Radio audiences are based on longevity, and loyalty. Radio
viablity is based in the ability of advertisers to be found to
support the operation. That support requires a solid listener base
to attract advertisers. And Franken made no secret that he was
counting the days. A listener base will not form around a host who
will not be there at the end of a short term contract. An advertiser
base will not form without a listener base, nor a solid and stable
operation. Franken was the Big Fish at AAR. He set a tone. He
established a foundation. And his repeated comments about the
temporary nature of his presence there prevented the formation of
both listener and advertiser commitment at the outset. It also
prevented his stablemates from making a commitment, as well. And Air
America was doomed before it launched, as a result.

By comparison, Rush, Hannity, Beck and their contemporaries are
broadcasters first. They've made a commitment to both the medium and
the listener. They understand that Radio IS after all a business.
And they operate their shows as a business: Providing content FOR
SALE. Advertisers can sign on with some confidence that there will
be at least an attempt at stability. And though the content can be
as raving and pedantic as AAR's, the business model is solid.

It's also easier to sell Conservative Radio, because of the
nature of Radio. But that's not to say that Progressive Radio can't
be sold. It can. It's just not as easy.

By contrast, NPR, and its similars, also have a working business
model. They, too, provide content for sale. The difference is that
NPR and its similars provide content for sale to local stations, and
the stations raise funds to pay for it by asking for donations from
their listener. Further operating funds are provided by corporate
grants and donations, and grants from public foundations. But the
business model is still sound. And the business model was in place
BEFORE the launch of the content.

Air America simply didn't do that.

Progressive content has been around for centuries. It can, it
does, and it will survive. Because it was, is, and will be, content
offered FOR SALE. Air America forgot that simple element. And
failed. Conservative Talk Radio is operated as RADIO: as a business
first. It's content provided by broadcasters, who know and
understand the Business of Radio, for sale. Air America's founders
were not broadcasters. Air America's support staff and manglement
were not broadcasters. Air America's talent were mostly not
broadcasters. And without that understanding about how broadcasting
works, they failed before they launched.

The failure of Air America was the failure of Air America's
business model. Run by broadcasters, as a business first, there may
have been a different outcome.





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