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Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
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Sitting in the back yard away from the house using just the telescopic whip antennas the older Grundig G5 whupped the newer G3 in AM reception. Medium wave AM G5 was more sensitive. Shortwave too, 15 mhz time signal not audible on G3 was heard faintly on G5. Anyone else notice this? Mike |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
On Apr 16, 11:09*am, Mike Mc Manus wrote:
Hello * Sitting in the back yard away from the house using just the telescopic whip antennas the older Grundig G5 whupped the newer G3 in AM reception. *Medium wave AM G5 was more sensitive. Shortwave too, 15 mhz time signal not audible on G3 was heard faintly on G5. * Anyone else notice this? Mike My impression is that everyone who knows the G5 feels it is one of the better radios out of China, period. Selectivity, front end and sound quality are apparently quite good too. I'm not big on tiny portables, but I'd sure love to give this one a try. Bruce Jensen |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
On Apr 16, 2:17*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Apr 16, 11:09*am, Mike Mc Manus wrote: Hello * Sitting in the back yard away from the house using just the telescopic whip antennas the older Grundig G5 whupped the newer G3 in AM reception. *Medium wave AM G5 was more sensitive. Shortwave too, 15 mhz time signal not audible on G3 was heard faintly on G5. * Anyone else notice this? Mike My impression is that everyone who knows the G5 feels it is one of the better radios out of China, period. *Selectivity, front end and sound quality are apparently quite good too. *I'm not big on tiny portables, but I'd sure love to give this one a try. Bruce Jensen I think that Radio Shack is selling the G5 cheap now. I'll be returning my G3 to Radio Shack ASAP. Mike McManus |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:09:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike Mc Manus
wrote: Hello Sitting in the back yard away from the house using just the telescopic whip antennas the older Grundig G5 whupped the newer G3 in AM reception. Medium wave AM G5 was more sensitive. Shortwave too, 15 mhz time signal not audible on G3 was heard faintly on G5. Anyone else notice this? Mike Similar reports on eham.net. Some suggest sample to sample variation due to poor quality control on early G3's. Jim |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
On Apr 16, 1:06*pm, Mike Mc Manus wrote:
On Apr 16, 2:17*pm, bpnjensen wrote: On Apr 16, 11:09*am, Mike Mc Manus wrote: Hello * Sitting in the back yard away from the house using just the telescopic whip antennas the older Grundig G5 whupped the newer G3 in AM reception. *Medium wave AM G5 was more sensitive. Shortwave too, 15 mhz time signal not audible on G3 was heard faintly on G5. * Anyone else notice this? Mike My impression is that everyone who knows the G5 feels it is one of the better radios out of China, period. *Selectivity, front end and sound quality are apparently quite good too. *I'm not big on tiny portables, but I'd sure love to give this one a try. Bruce Jensen I think that Radio Shack is selling the G5 cheap now. * *I'll be returning my G3 to Radio Shack ASAP. Mike McManus- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My local RS are all sold out - the managers cannot even recall the radios. |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:12:54 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen
wrote: On Apr 16, 1:06*pm, Mike Mc Manus wrote: On Apr 16, 2:17*pm, bpnjensen wrote: On Apr 16, 11:09*am, Mike Mc Manus wrote: Hello * Sitting in the back yard away from the house using just the telescopic whip antennas the older Grundig G5 whupped the newer G3 in AM reception. *Medium wave AM G5 was more sensitive. Shortwave too, 15 mhz time signal not audible on G3 was heard faintly on G5. * Anyone else notice this? Mike My impression is that everyone who knows the G5 feels it is one of the better radios out of China, period. *Selectivity, front end and sound quality are apparently quite good too. *I'm not big on tiny portables, but I'd sure love to give this one a try. Bruce Jensen I think that Radio Shack is selling the G5 cheap now. * *I'll be returning my G3 to Radio Shack ASAP. Mike McManus- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My local RS are all sold out - the managers cannot even recall the radios. Same here. Plenty of G6's in stock for 100 bucks. The new radio is called the G6 and they can't remember the G5? Sounds like typical management material. Jim |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
On Apr 16, 4:22*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:12:54 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen wrote: On Apr 16, 1:06*pm, Mike Mc Manus wrote: On Apr 16, 2:17*pm, bpnjensen wrote: On Apr 16, 11:09*am, Mike Mc Manus wrote: Hello * Sitting in the back yard away from the house using just the telescopic whip antennas the older Grundig G5 whupped the newer G3 in AM reception. *Medium wave AM G5 was more sensitive. Shortwave too, 15 mhz time signal not audible on G3 was heard faintly on G5. * Anyone else notice this? Mike My impression is that everyone who knows the G5 feels it is one of the better radios out of China, period. *Selectivity, front end and sound quality are apparently quite good too. *I'm not big on tiny portables, but I'd sure love to give this one a try. Bruce Jensen I think that Radio Shack is selling the G5 cheap now. * *I'll be returning my G3 to Radio Shack ASAP. Mike McManus- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My local RS are all sold out - the managers cannot even recall the radios. Same here. Plenty of G6's in stock for 100 bucks. The new radio is called the G6 and they can't remember the G5? Sounds like typical management material. Jim Most RS managers know nothing about shortwave. That said, there are some G5's still on closeout at scattered locations. I bought a new in the box set with AC adapter and owner's manual for $59 and change at the Southside Plaza RS store in Richmond a few weeks ago. It's a great radio for that price. Ask the manager of your local RS store to do a nationwide search for the G5. At one time, Radio Shack would ship any item to nearby store free of charge. Sky Captain Richmond, Va. |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
On Apr 16, 4:10*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:09:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike Mc Manus wrote: Hello *Sitting in the back yard away from the house using just the telescopic whip antennas the older Grundig G5 whupped the newer G3 in AM reception. *Medium wave AM G5 was more sensitive. Shortwave too, 15 mhz time signal not audible on G3 was heard faintly on G5. *Anyone else notice this? Mike Similar reports on eham.net. Some suggest sample to sample variation due to poor quality control on early G3's. Jim Yeah I think it was the G3 I checked out at RS, I posted about it in here. I definitely don't want to rag on anyone that has it because maybe (like was said) the quality control varied from set to set. But all I know is that I checked one out at their store close to quitting time and the guy/gal allowed me to clip on my already made maybe 20ft. of wire. Granted it was the shelf unit, but it was at the very top shelf at the back of the store....so my guess is that there weren't many people that actually reached up that high and pulled it down, may be wrong though. Make a long story short, that particular set was laughable. The dials wobbled, it felt almost like a childs radio and I was in one of those moods that I was going to buy that radio come hell or high water when I walked in that store. I am sure it had to be a bad piece because one would basically IMO have to be somewhat of a beginner to buy the one I had in my hands. No doubt, the G5 HAS TOO be better, both feel wise/switches-knobs wise/ more selective....everything. If I happen to drive by there and have the time I definitely want to check out the G5 though it would really serve no purpose for me except in having another radio. |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
On Apr 16, 7:01*pm, Sky Captain wrote:
On Apr 16, 4:22*pm, wrote: On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:12:54 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen wrote: On Apr 16, 1:06*pm, Mike Mc Manus wrote: On Apr 16, 2:17*pm, bpnjensen wrote: On Apr 16, 11:09*am, Mike Mc Manus wrote: Hello * Sitting in the back yard away from the house using just the telescopic whip antennas the older Grundig G5 whupped the newer G3 in AM reception. *Medium wave AM G5 was more sensitive. Shortwave too, 15 mhz time signal not audible on G3 was heard faintly on G5. * Anyone else notice this? Mike My impression is that everyone who knows the G5 feels it is one of the better radios out of China, period. *Selectivity, front end and sound quality are apparently quite good too. *I'm not big on tiny portables, but I'd sure love to give this one a try. Bruce Jensen I think that Radio Shack is selling the G5 cheap now. * *I'll be returning my G3 to Radio Shack ASAP. Mike McManus- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My local RS are all sold out - the managers cannot even recall the radios. Same here. Plenty of G6's in stock for 100 bucks. The new radio is called the G6 and they can't remember the G5? Sounds like typical management material. Jim Most RS managers know nothing about shortwave. *That said, there are some G5's still on closeout at scattered locations. *I bought a new in the box set with AC adapter and owner's manual for $59 and change at the Southside Plaza RS store in Richmond a few weeks ago. *It's a great radio for that price. *Ask the manager of your local RS store to do a nationwide search for the G5. *At one time, Radio Shack would ship any item to nearby store free of charge. Sky Captain Richmond, Va. I just visited another RS today - they knew the G5 radio, said they just sold the last one, and after looking a bit could not find a sku # to see if any showed up at any other stores. Oh, well. That G6, though, is TINY! Damn thing is almost invisible. |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
On Apr 17, 4:52*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
bpnjensen wrote: I just visited another RS today - they knew the G5 radio, said they just sold the last one, and after looking a bit could not find a sku # to see if any showed up at any other stores. *Oh, well. This help?http://tinyurl.com/yyulx9y SKU: 750254801679 -- Operator Bob Echo Charlie 42 Hmm - apparently not - RS website finds nothing here either :-( You managed to find the only website with a 100% negative rating on the G5! :-) |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
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, bpnjensen writes On Apr 17, 4:52*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote: bpnjensen wrote: I just visited another RS today - they knew the G5 radio, said they just sold the last one, and after looking a bit could not find a sku # to see if any showed up at any other stores. *Oh, well. This help?http://tinyurl.com/yyulx9y SKU: 750254801679 -- Operator Bob Echo Charlie 42 Hmm - apparently not - RS website finds nothing here either :-( You managed to find the only website with a 100% negative rating on the G5! :-) I have one (Eton G5). Essentially, I agree with those comments. LW insensitive, and suffers from MW interference. MW is OK. SW not bad from (say) 4 to 20MHz (not good at all 1.6 to 3MHz, where whip switches in). FM seems very good (don't have really local stations, so haven't noticed overload). Where insensitive, external antenna helps, but overloads easily. -- Ian |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
On Apr 18, 1:16*pm, Ian Jackson
wrote: In message , bpnjensen writes On Apr 17, 4:52*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote: bpnjensen wrote: I just visited another RS today - they knew the G5 radio, said they just sold the last one, and after looking a bit could not find a sku # to see if any showed up at any other stores. *Oh, well. This help?http://tinyurl.com/yyulx9y SKU: 750254801679 -- Operator Bob Echo Charlie 42 Hmm - apparently not - RS website finds nothing here either :-( You managed to find the only website with a 100% negative rating on the G5! :-) I have one (Eton G5). Essentially, I agree with those comments. LW insensitive, and suffers from MW interference. MW is OK. SW not bad from (say) 4 to 20MHz (not good at all 1.6 to 3MHz, where whip switches in). FM seems very good (don't have really local stations, so haven't noticed overload). Where insensitive, external antenna helps, but overloads easily. -- Ian So, Ian - the whip is not the antenna for 1.6 to 3 MHz? If so, I assume it relies on the internal ferrite, which would typically be inadequate...I have an older single-conversion superhet analog radio where the ferrite works all the way to 6 MHz - to increase sensitivity, I place a *single* wrap of normal wire around the radio, connected to my external antennae. That brings up the signals a lot. More than one wrap of wire and I get images galore...so my experience matches yours closely. I think the lesson here is that: (1) It's hard to get good reception on a portable on the 1.6-3/4 MHz band; and (2) you need a rock solid front end to be able to use an antenna for 1.6 to 3/4 MHz and NOT get spurious junk, unless you are far away from major MW transmitters. Bruce Jensen |
Grundig G5 VS Grundig G3
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, bpnjensen writes On Apr 18, 1:16*pm, Ian Jackson wrote: In message , bpnjensen writes On Apr 17, 4:52*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote: bpnjensen wrote: I just visited another RS today - they knew the G5 radio, said they just sold the last one, and after looking a bit could not find a sku # to see if any showed up at any other stores. *Oh, well. This help?http://tinyurl.com/yyulx9y SKU: 750254801679 -- Operator Bob Echo Charlie 42 Hmm - apparently not - RS website finds nothing here either :-( You managed to find the only website with a 100% negative rating on the G5! :-) I have one (Eton G5). Essentially, I agree with those comments. LW insensitive, and suffers from MW interference. MW is OK. SW not bad from (say) 4 to 20MHz (not good at all 1.6 to 3MHz, where whip switches in). FM seems very good (don't have really local stations, so haven't noticed overload). Where insensitive, external antenna helps, but overloads easily. -- Ian So, Ian - the whip is not the antenna for 1.6 to 3 MHz? If so, I assume it relies on the internal ferrite, which would typically be inadequate...I have an older single-conversion superhet analog radio where the ferrite works all the way to 6 MHz - to increase sensitivity, I place a *single* wrap of normal wire around the radio, connected to my external antennae. That brings up the signals a lot. More than one wrap of wire and I get images galore...so my experience matches yours closely. I think the lesson here is that: (1) It's hard to get good reception on a portable on the 1.6-3/4 MHz band; and (2) you need a rock solid front end to be able to use an antenna for 1.6 to 3/4 MHz and NOT get spurious junk, unless you are far away from major MW transmitters. Yes. It uses the ferrite rod up to 2.999MHz. At 3MHz, you can hear the noise increase, but the sensitivity is poor up to at least 4MHz. The external antenna connection (via 3.5mm audio jack) seems to work on all frequencies. There is a 10dB attenuate to help with overload (a tuneable passive preselector would help a lot). I forgot to mention that it's full of self-generated internal beats (nothing to do with the incoming signals). A few of them paralysingly strong, especially when you're using the whip. All-in-all, it's not too bad a little portable radio, but it certainly is not a serious communications receiver. -- Ian |
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