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Joe from Kokomo[_2_] April 25th 10 02:07 AM

The Tea Party, Timothy McVeigh, and Tainted History
 

Maybe they will try Clinton for that as soon as they try
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz for lying us into two fake wars.
History will show that Bush et al failed America in those dark days.

I understand your feelings for the scores killed at Waco. Now if only
you could work up some sympathy for the *thousands* of American troops
and *tens of thousands* of civilians maimed and killed by W's folly.


On 4/24/2010 6:51 PM, Cicero Venatio wrote:

Bush fought for oil, Clinton executed the Davidians simply because they
absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Bush fought for oil??? You may be right, that -may- have been the real
reason, but as far as I know, that was NEVER publicly admitted to by the
Bush administration -- essentially the American public was lied into two
phony wars (that we are STILL paying the price for).

Anyway, even if Bush did do it "for oil", are you implying that Bush
gets a free pass to kill thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of
innocent civilians just because it was "for oil"? Does oil justify that?

...absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Well, I'm not sure about that. It may have had more to do with the
Davidians having illegal weapons. The fire appeared to be
accidental/unintentional. I don't think the ATF or Bill Clinton overtly
planned on having a fire. The government probably would have been
perfectly happy if the Davidians honored the ATF legal search warrant.

Finally, let's be pragmatic...

Yes, the 86 bogus Waco deaths were sad, even though accidental and not
specifically planned.

However, Bush DID overtly plan the two bogus wars.

86 accidental deaths versus tens of thousands of deaths that we the
people were lied into. So, you tell me, who is the bigger criminal,
Clinton or Bush?

If you think Clinton should be tried for those 86 deaths, well, fair
enough. But then I'm contending that Bush should be tried for the tens
of thousands of deaths he lied us into.


Cicero Venatio April 25th 10 02:34 AM

The Tea Party, Timothy McVeigh, and Tainted History
 


Bush fought for oil, Clinton executed the Davidians simply because they
absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Bush fought for oil??? You may be right, that -may- have been the real
reason, but as far as I know, that was NEVER publicly admitted to by the
Bush administration -- essentially the American public was lied into two
phony wars (that we are STILL paying the price for).

Anyway, even if Bush did do it "for oil", are you implying that Bush
gets a free pass to kill thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of
innocent civilians just because it was "for oil"? Does oil justify that?

...absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Well, I'm not sure about that. It may have had more to do with the
Davidians having illegal weapons. The fire appeared to be
accidental/unintentional. I don't think the ATF or Bill Clinton overtly
planned on having a fire. The government probably would have been
perfectly happy if the Davidians honored the ATF legal search warrant.

Finally, let's be pragmatic...

Yes, the 86 bogus Waco deaths were sad, even though accidental and not
specifically planned.

However, Bush DID overtly plan the two bogus wars.

86 accidental deaths versus tens of thousands of deaths that we the
people were lied into. So, you tell me, who is the bigger criminal,
Clinton or Bush?

If you think Clinton should be tried for those 86 deaths, well, fair
enough. But then I'm contending that Bush should be tried for the tens
of thousands of deaths he lied us into.

---------------

Men have been warring over scarce natural resources, ever since the
caveman learned how to use a club. Sounds like you're trying to reverse
50,000 years of history. Bush fought for oil, so you can cart your lazy
ass in a 2000 pound metal box to the liquor store on a Saturday night.
Maybe if you learned to ride a bicycle, or walk, Bush wouldn't have had
to fight for your slacker ass. Clinton's crime had nothing to do with
acquiring scare resources for a slacker populace, but it had everything
to do with tyranny, and that's what is criminal.

[email protected] April 25th 10 04:43 AM

The Tea Party, Timothy McVeigh, and Tainted History
 
The democraps and libturds,,, they are Anti-America!
cuhulin


dave April 25th 10 01:34 PM

The Tea Party, Timothy McVeigh, and Tainted History
 
Cicero Venatio wrote:

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Bush fought for oil, Clinton executed the Davidians simply because they
absolutely refused to kneel before him.


That's a little nutso. I doubt Clinton gave a **** one way or the
other. The Army was wrong to blink first. It's amazing how a handful
of gun nuts, women and kids could hold the mighty USA at bay for a month.

They could've just set up a controlled perimeter and waited them out.

dave April 25th 10 01:36 PM

The Tea Party, Timothy McVeigh, and Tainted History
 
Joe from Kokomo wrote:


Bush fought for oil??? You may be right, that -may- have been the real
reason, but as far as I know, that was NEVER publicly admitted to by the
Bush administration -- essentially the American public was lied into two
phony wars (that we are STILL paying the price for).


Everything since the Great Depression has been about oil.

dave April 25th 10 01:38 PM

The Tea Party, Timothy McVeigh, and Tainted History
 
Cicero Venatio wrote:

---------------

Men have been warring over scarce natural resources, ever since the
caveman learned how to use a club. Sounds like you're trying to reverse
50,000 years of history.


Don't lump the last 8,000 failed years in with the rest of human history.

Civilization? My ass!

John Agosta April 25th 10 10:17 PM

The Tea Party, Timothy McVeigh, and Tainted History
 

"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message
...

Maybe they will try Clinton for that as soon as they try
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz for lying us into two fake wars.
History will show that Bush et al failed America in those dark days.

I understand your feelings for the scores killed at Waco. Now if only
you could work up some sympathy for the *thousands* of American troops
and *tens of thousands* of civilians maimed and killed by W's folly.


On 4/24/2010 6:51 PM, Cicero Venatio wrote:

Bush fought for oil, Clinton executed the Davidians simply because they
absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Bush fought for oil??? You may be right, that -may- have been the real
reason, but as far as I know, that was NEVER publicly admitted to by the
Bush administration -- essentially the American public was lied into two
phony wars (that we are STILL paying the price for).

Anyway, even if Bush did do it "for oil", are you implying that Bush gets
a free pass to kill thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of
innocent civilians just because it was "for oil"? Does oil justify that?

...absolutely refused to kneel before him.


Well, I'm not sure about that. It may have had more to do with the
Davidians having illegal weapons. The fire appeared to be
accidental/unintentional. I don't think the ATF or Bill Clinton overtly
planned on having a fire. The government probably would have been
perfectly happy if the Davidians honored the ATF legal search warrant.

Finally, let's be pragmatic...

Yes, the 86 bogus Waco deaths were sad, even though accidental and not
specifically planned.

However, Bush DID overtly plan the two bogus wars.

86 accidental deaths versus tens of thousands of deaths that we the people
were lied into. So, you tell me, who is the bigger criminal, Clinton or
Bush?

If you think Clinton should be tried for those 86 deaths, well, fair
enough. But then I'm contending that Bush should be tried for the tens of
thousands of deaths he lied us into.


Good post.



[email protected] April 25th 10 11:08 PM

The Tea Party, Timothy McVeigh, and Tainted History
 
Let the Riots Begin! They already have.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Photos of lawn mower oil drain plug

That B HO ButtKisser thinks he is a World Authority, a Super Chief
expert on everything.But, he was too Stupid to look for that oil drain
plug.He pushed his $65.00 pawn shop lawn mower to my sidewalk, (last
year) he rattled my front screen door, he said,,,
Show me where that oil drain plug is!

It was right there, I showed it to him.There was a light bit of dirt had
it covered up.

Show me where that oil drain plug is!
cuhulin


dave April 26th 10 01:40 PM

The Lawnmower Party
 
wrote:
Let the Riots Begin! They already have.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Photos of lawn mower oil drain plug

That B HO ButtKisser thinks he is a World Authority, a Super Chief
expert on everything.But, he was too Stupid to look for that oil drain
plug.He pushed his $65.00 pawn shop lawn mower to my sidewalk, (last
year) he rattled my front screen door, he said,,,
Show me where that oil drain plug is!

It was right there, I showed it to him.There was a light bit of dirt had
it covered up.

Show me where that oil drain plug is!
cuhulin


Logic dictates that the drain be at the lowest point in the motor proper.

[email protected] April 26th 10 02:55 PM

The Lawnmower Party
 
Some lawn mowers don't have an oil drain plug.To change the oil in
those, you have to suck it out with a vacuum pump or turn the lawn mower
upside down.It naturally makes more sense to have an oil drain plug on
the bottom.I won't ever buy a lawn mower that doesn't have an oil drain
plug on the bottom.Next time you go lawn mower shopping be sure it has
an oil drain plug on the bottom.
cuhulin



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