RHF wrote:
On May 16, 6:52 pm, wrote:
- On May 16, 4:33 pm, wrote:

- - Of Course I feel that way.I do NOT Lie.

- You really condemn democracy?

BpnJ arguing {reasoning} with Cuhulin - priceless ~ RHF

What is Democracy without the full and complete
participation of the Common Man . . .

The Tyranny of the Elite (the few) over the Masses.

Equality For One : Must Be Equality For All

for all are equal and all are one ~ RHF
.

If people are stupid and uninformed they should have no right to vote.
They do more harm than good.

dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On May 16, 6:52 pm, wrote:
- On May 16, 4:33 pm, wrote:

- - Of Course I feel that way.I do NOT Lie.

- You really condemn democracy?

BpnJ arguing {reasoning} with Cuhulin - priceless ~ RHF

What is Democracy without the full and complete
participation of the Common Man . . .

The Tyranny of the Elite (the few) over the Masses.

Equality For One : Must Be Equality For All

for all are equal and all are one ~ RHF
.

If people are stupid and uninformed they should have no right to vote.
They do more harm than good.


Now, there's something we definitely agree on.

There would be extremely vociferous opposition to any intelligence
test -- or even the simplest civics test -- as a requirement for
voting, however.

Even a literacy test would be verboten in the insane asylum that
passes for the United States these days.

The reason? Any such test would be condemned as "racist." Certain
races would fail even the simplest test in disproportionate numbers.

So, until reality hits us in the face hard enough to make us abandon
the religion of racial equality (which is just as kooky as
fundamentalism), we will continue with a system in which vicious
gangsters and borderline morons barely able to dress themselves have
an equal vote with honors graduates and brilliant inventors.

Of course, reality _will_ hit us in the face eventually, since the
morons and thugs are increasing their percentage of the population
every hour. And it is, more and more, _their_ tastes and
predilections and "culture" which shape our society, determine its
policies, and select its leaders.


With every good wish,


Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

On May 18, 7:17*am, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:

If people are stupid and uninformed they should have no right to vote.
They do more harm than good.

Now, there's something we definitely agree on.

There would be extremely vociferous opposition to any intelligence
test -- or even the simplest civics test -- as a requirement for
voting, however.

Even a literacy test would be verboten in the insane asylum that
passes for the United States these days.

The reason? Any such test would be condemned as "racist." Certain
races would fail even the simplest test in disproportionate numbers.

So, until reality hits us in the face hard enough to make us abandon
the religion of racial equality (which is just as kooky as
fundamentalism), we will continue with a system in which vicious
gangsters and borderline morons barely able to dress themselves have
an equal vote with honors graduates and brilliant inventors.

Of course, reality _will_ hit us in the face eventually, since the
morons and thugs are increasing their percentage of the population
every hour. And it is, more and more, _their_ tastes and
predilections and "culture" which shape our society, determine its
policies, and select its leaders.

With every good wish,

Kevin Alfred Strom.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Kevin - at the founding of this nation, and continuing on for quite a
while, What percentage of the population do you suppose could read or
write? And did this Constitutionally prevent anyone from being able
to vote?

We used to think the Irish, the Italians and the Poles were thugs
too...

Bruce Jensen

On 5/18/10 09:21 , bpnjensen wrote:
On May 18, 7:17 am, Kevin Alfred
wrote:

If people are stupid and uninformed they should have no right to vote.
They do more harm than good.

Now, there's something we definitely agree on.

There would be extremely vociferous opposition to any intelligence
test -- or even the simplest civics test -- as a requirement for
voting, however.

Even a literacy test would be verboten in the insane asylum that
passes for the United States these days.

The reason? Any such test would be condemned as "racist." Certain
races would fail even the simplest test in disproportionate numbers.

So, until reality hits us in the face hard enough to make us abandon
the religion of racial equality (which is just as kooky as
fundamentalism), we will continue with a system in which vicious
gangsters and borderline morons barely able to dress themselves have
an equal vote with honors graduates and brilliant inventors.

Of course, reality _will_ hit us in the face eventually, since the
morons and thugs are increasing their percentage of the population
every hour. And it is, more and more, _their_ tastes and
predilections and "culture" which shape our society, determine its
policies, and select its leaders.

With every good wish,

Kevin Alfred Strom.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Kevin - at the founding of this nation, and continuing on for quite a
while, What percentage of the population do you suppose could read or
write? And did this Constitutionally prevent anyone from being able
to vote?

We used to think the Irish, the Italians and the Poles were thugs
too...

Bruce Jensen




Bruce, you need to come to Chicago.

On 5/18/10 09:21 , bpnjensen wrote:


We used to think the Irish, the Italians and the Poles were thugs
too...

Bruce Jensen




There's a reason for that.


Alphonse Capone.
Johnny Torrio
Frank Nitti
William Daddano
Sam Giancana
Paul Ricca
Tony Accardo


George Moran
William McGarigle
Michael Cassius McDonald
Mossy Enright
Roger Touhy
Southside O'Donnells
Dion O'Banion
Frank McErlane


Jake Guzik
John Factor
Paul Jaworski
Joseph Saltis
Richard Leonard Kuklinski
Hymie Weiss
Joseph Filkowski
Joseph Stazek

On May 18, 8:16*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
* On 5/18/10 09:21 , bpnjensen wrote:

We used to think the Irish, the Italians and the Poles were thugs
too...

Bruce Jensen

* There's a reason for that.

* Alphonse Capone.
* Johnny Torrio
* Frank Nitti
* William Daddano
* Sam Giancana
* Paul Ricca
* Tony Accardo

* George Moran
* William McGarigle
* Michael Cassius McDonald
* Mossy Enright
* Roger Touhy
* Southside O'Donnells
* Dion O'Banion
* Frank McErlane

* Jake Guzik
* John Factor
* Paul Jaworski
* Joseph Saltis
* Richard Leonard Kuklinski
* Hymie Weiss
* Joseph Filkowski
* Joseph Stazek

A tiny fraction of the millions who came and ultimately contributed
positvely to the nation in a million small ways.

On 5/18/10 12:13 , bpnjensen wrote:
On May 18, 8:16 am, "D. Peter wrote:
On 5/18/10 09:21 , bpnjensen wrote:

We used to think the Irish, the Italians and the Poles were thugs
too...

Bruce Jensen

There's a reason for that.

Alphonse Capone.
Johnny Torrio
Frank Nitti
William Daddano
Sam Giancana
Paul Ricca
Tony Accardo

George Moran
William McGarigle
Michael Cassius McDonald
Mossy Enright
Roger Touhy
Southside O'Donnells
Dion O'Banion
Frank McErlane

Jake Guzik
John Factor
Paul Jaworski
Joseph Saltis
Richard Leonard Kuklinski
Hymie Weiss
Joseph Filkowski
Joseph Stazek

A tiny fraction of the millions who came and ultimately contributed
positvely to the nation in a million small ways.

And yet, each came to polarize countless millions by contributing
negatively as individuals in the name of their ethicities.

The reason we used to, and many times still do, think of the
Irish, the Italians, and the Poles as thugs is not because of the
millions who aren't, but because of the some who were.

D. Peter Maus wrote:



George Moran
William McGarigle
Michael Cassius McDonald
Mossy Enright
Roger Touhy
Southside O'Donnells
Dion O'Banion
Frank McErlane


Apparently the bigots who chased the Irish out of Chicago in 1850 were
psychics.

bpnjensen wrote:
On May 18, 7:17 am, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:

If people are stupid and uninformed they should have no right to vote.
They do more harm than good.
Now, there's something we definitely agree on.

There would be extremely vociferous opposition to any intelligence
test -- or even the simplest civics test -- as a requirement for
voting, however.

Even a literacy test would be verboten in the insane asylum that
passes for the United States these days.

The reason? Any such test would be condemned as "racist." Certain
races would fail even the simplest test in disproportionate numbers.

So, until reality hits us in the face hard enough to make us abandon
the religion of racial equality (which is just as kooky as
fundamentalism), we will continue with a system in which vicious
gangsters and borderline morons barely able to dress themselves have
an equal vote with honors graduates and brilliant inventors.

Of course, reality _will_ hit us in the face eventually, since the
morons and thugs are increasing their percentage of the population
every hour. And it is, more and more, _their_ tastes and
predilections and "culture" which shape our society, determine its
policies, and select its leaders.

With every good wish,

Kevin Alfred Strom.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/
[...]


Kevin - at the founding of this nation, and continuing on for quite a
while, What percentage of the population do you suppose could read or
write? And did this Constitutionally prevent anyone from being able
to vote?



The property requirement was effectively a proxy for education and
culture -- as well as a bar against mob rule and against the
have-nots being used to plunder others via the ballot box.

Later, many states instituted literacy and simple civics tests for
voting, without which representative government is much less free,
workable, and honest. They were all struck down in the so-called
"Civil Rights" power grab. They should have been made more stringent
instead.




We used to think the Irish, the Italians and the Poles were thugs
too...

Bruce Jensen



Some of them were. But since they are genetically, biologically, and
cerebrally virtually indistinguishable from the Anglo-Saxons and
Celts who formed the American people, their addition to our culture
and gene pool did not result in any long-term degradation,
endangerment, exploitation, hatred, resentment, or any other kind of
incompatibility.

This doesn't mean we should hate or harm those who are incompatible.
We should just realize that we should go our separate ways, and
support their self-determination and freedom from the Evil Empire.
The Republic of Lakotah is a first step. Perhaps the Tea Parties are
-- as Pat Buchanan says -- the faintest beginnings of a second.


With my best,



Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

On 5/18/10 10:30 , Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:



This doesn't mean we should hate or harm those who are incompatible. We
should just realize that we should go our separate ways, and support
their self-determination and freedom from the Evil Empire. The Republic
of Lakotah is a first step. Perhaps the Tea Parties are -- as Pat
Buchanan says -- the faintest beginnings of a second.




It will be interesting to see what Russell Means accomplishes
with the Repubic of Lakotah. The more I read about his intentions,
and his motivations for them, the more I find to appreciate.