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On May 26, 10:45*am, "MNMikeW" wrote:
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On May 26, 7:11 am, "MNMikeW" wrote:





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On May 25, 1:59 pm, "MNMikeW" wrote:

"Denton" wrote in message

om...

I assure you, if Americans boycotted every BP station, in fact EVERY
DAMNED BRITISH PRODUCT OR SERVICE it would get their attention. BP's
attitude from the start has been arrogant and unsympathetic and every
American should be outraged.

You've just described the Obama administrator reaction to this.

And you know this - how?
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Look up how many vacations Barry has been on since the explosion.

Big deal. *IF he, or any president, avoided vacations whenever any
crisis occurred, most of them would never leave the White House. *You
take a tiny slice of his tenure and make believe that's the norm? *God
almighty, look at what Bush did - he bicycled and brush-cleared hsi
way through the Presidency...

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Yes but I notice your lack of outrage here. Of course it would be altogether
different if we had a Republican prez right now. If it wisent for the lefts
double standard, they would have no standards.- Hide quoted text -

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You noticed nothing because I have not expressed it. I *am* outraged,
livid in fact, that Obama so far appears to have let so much of this
crisis slide by. That *by no means* takes the blame off the previous
Admins, under whom this whole sordid system began.

Wanna talk about a double standard?

What party has traditionally been the staunchest ally of BIG OIL?

What party now tries to point the finger at a Liberal because he was
caught off-guard?

What party is now crying because their constituents' livelihoods are
being crushed by the very industry they have long supported?

Give ya a hint - they're all the same answer.

You can grouse all you like, but as a liberal I have NEVER supported
offshore drilling or extraction, and I have no sympathy for any
politician right or left who has supported it or has been asleep at
the wheel when tragedy strikes. If you can find a double standard
there, you're a magician...or else a liar, take your pick.

Bruce

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On May 26, 10:45 am, "MNMikeW" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

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On May 26, 7:11 am, "MNMikeW" wrote:





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On May 25, 1:59 pm, "MNMikeW" wrote:

"Denton" wrote in message

om...

I assure you, if Americans boycotted every BP station, in fact EVERY
DAMNED BRITISH PRODUCT OR SERVICE it would get their attention. BP's
attitude from the start has been arrogant and unsympathetic and
every
American should be outraged.

You've just described the Obama administrator reaction to this.

And you know this - how?
---------------

Look up how many vacations Barry has been on since the explosion.

Big deal. IF he, or any president, avoided vacations whenever any
crisis occurred, most of them would never leave the White House. You
take a tiny slice of his tenure and make believe that's the norm? God
almighty, look at what Bush did - he bicycled and brush-cleared hsi
way through the Presidency...

======================
Yes but I notice your lack of outrage here. Of course it would be
altogether
different if we had a Republican prez right now. If it wisent for the
lefts
double standard, they would have no standards.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You noticed nothing because I have not expressed it. I *am* outraged,
livid in fact, that Obama so far appears to have let so much of this
crisis slide by. That *by no means* takes the blame off the previous
Admins, under whom this whole sordid system began.

Wanna talk about a double standard?

What party has traditionally been the staunchest ally of BIG OIL?

ALL parties are the ally of BIG OIL. Easily confirmed.

What party now tries to point the finger at a Liberal because he was
caught off-guard?

Oh, caught off guard. Nice spin. Was Bush also caught off-gaurd during
Katrina?

What party is now crying because their constituents' livelihoods are
being crushed by the very industry they have long supported?

Give ya a hint - they're all the same answer.

You can grouse all you like, but as a liberal I have NEVER supported
offshore drilling or extraction, and I have no sympathy for any
politician right or left who has supported it or has been asleep at
the wheel when tragedy strikes. If you can find a double standard
there, you're a magician...or else a liar, take your pick.

Funny, Obama supports off-shore drilling.

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On May 26, 11:47*am, "MNMikeW" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

What party has traditionally been the staunchest ally of BIG OIL?

ALL parties are the ally of BIG OIL. Easily confirmed.

So, confirm it. An honest look will reveal a pretty lopsided
political constituency. BTW, what business did Bushie start in 1978,
again?

What party now tries to point the finger at a Liberal because he was
caught off-guard?

Oh, caught off guard. Nice spin. Was Bush also caught off-gaurd during
Katrina?

No, he wasn't. That storm had several days of fair warning from NOAA
scientists - but then, science was not his "thing" was it? Anyway -
you also won't see me thrusting all the blame at Bush for what
happened with Katrina - the first response in that case should have
been from the State and the City, neither of whom had the foggiest
idea what they were doing when the ocean rose 30 feet. What happened
afterward should have gradually morphed into a federal emergency
program (which it did, poorly).

What party is now crying because their constituents' livelihoods are
being crushed by the very industry they have long supported?

Give ya a hint - they're all the same answer.

You can grouse all you like, but as a liberal I have NEVER supported
offshore drilling or extraction, and I have no sympathy for any
politician right or left who has supported it or has been asleep at
the wheel when tragedy strikes. *If you can find a double standard
there, you're a magician...or else a liar, take your pick.

Funny, Obama supports off-shore drilling.

Actually, it's not funny, and that is one part of his "drilling"
platform that needs to end.

Bruce

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On May 26, 11:31*am, " wrote:
On May 26, 10:39*am, "MNMikeW" wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64420A20100505

Thanks for the info. *BTW, today's NYTimes has an artcilehttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/26/us/politics/26energy.html?hpwon how
BP donated US$500M to LBNL and UC during Steven Chu's tenure there,
and how he hired Steven Koonin from BP to be his deputy at DOE.

Thank you to both for these good articles. From the Reuters:

"Make no mistake: BP ranks among the most powerful corporate forces in
U.S. politics," said Dave Levinthal, spokesman for the Center for
Responsive Politics. "It donates hundreds of thousands of dollars
every election cycle through its employees and political action
committee and is routinely a seven- or eight-figure federal lobbying
powerhouse each year."

In 2008 alone, BP gave $37,000 to members of the House Energy
Committee and $106,501 to members of the Senate Homeland Security
Committee, which deals with security issues facing the nation's oil
supply.

BP has also evolved in its corporate giving over the past decade,
shifting more money to Democrats. In 2000, the company gave almost 39
percent more to Republicans than to Democrats. But by 2008, Democrats
had nearly pulled even with Republicans on BP donations.

Moreover, the company has nearly tripled the amount of money it has
spent on lobbying, from about $5.7 million in 1999 to $15.9 million
last year, according to lobbying disclosures."

Recall that the Supreme Court, less than a year ago, also eliminated
the limits on how much a wealthy company, oops, I mean, an individual
person, can use for purposes related to politics. Now, whatever
measly limits there may have been have been utterly dashed, and BP and
their fellow "individual persons" will be able to win all the
elections their money can buy.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=122805666

Bruce Jensen

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On May 26, 3:55 am, "VegasNightOwl"
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"Mark S. Holden" wrote in
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Denton wrote:
The British Petroleum BP Corporation has laughed at us stupid Americans
for 34 days. They've ruined one of our greatest natural resources and
decimated thousands of lives. Our government acts like it is scared to
make a frowny-face at these English faggots.

We should seize all BP property for starters; but we won't because we
gutless.

BP...with the so-called "Queen" a major stockholder...needs us to send
a
message. Don't spend a dime with these
pricks as our way of saying "thank you for doing a greater act of
terrorism against the US than ANYTHING ever done for which we went to
war
over.

Frankly, this will hurt the little guy who owns your local station, and
their employees much more than it'll hurt BP.

The way it works in Connecticut (and probably in most parts of the
country) is there are central terminals where they have huge tanks. When
a
tanker comes in, it fills whatever tank(s) have room, and whoever
supplied
the gas gets paid. When a tank truck comes in to get gas for delivery to
your local station - no matter what brand it is, it's filled from
whatever
tank they're currently emptying.

The difference is each brand has their own additives, so before they
fill
up the tank truck with maybe 10k gallons, they put in a tiny amount of
the
brand specific additives. (Kinda like adding salt to a hamburger)

Most of BP's money comes from filling the tanks before the gas is
branded.

Hi Mark,

Finally....finally....finally! Somebody who knows how oil is moved,
refined
then sold on the open market. Boycotting BP will be as effective as
boycotting McDonalds. As the saying goes....it ain't gonna work kids. I
don't like what I see in the Gulf either but it comes down to the fact
that
we are an energy consuming nation......fossil fuel energy. We will never
be
able to "completely" ween ourselves off of oil no matter how much we cut
back. We still need oil for lubrication and most
importantly......PLASTICS!
That's right. Anything you see of plastic, whether hard or soft, it came
from oil. All of your synthetic fabrics are from oil as well.

So - how big a proportion of extracted oil is used for things other
than fuel? And how much is incinerated into the air?

If nobody buys BP oil, you can bet BP will get the message when their
sellers don't want their stock.

Some are wondering, what about the recycling? It's all good too but how
does the recycled material get to its main destination? Hmmmm....trucks.
And they run on diesel, which is lower refined oil. So no matter how you
slice it, energy in fossil fuel form is needed for today's economic
engine,
as well as the future.

Our recycling trucks here run on landfill LNG, not diesel. They could
easily run on other things too, as long as somebody can see past the
end of their nose and this year's immediate bottom line.

Bruce Jensen


A few trucks using LNG isn't going to cut. Even 10,000 trucks across the
country won't cut it. Natural gas is a great play but there are a couple
big problems with it. Transportation, (safety and mass quantities) and
storage. First, transporting LNG is very volatile and can only be done is
small quantities at a time. It would take multiple deliveries of LNG per
day to just keep up with the demand at the station. Unlike the distribution
of gasoline every other day or so depending on how sales are. Storage would
be a regulatory hell at the filling station. To keep LNG in the proper
form, liquid, it needs to be kept cold. Basically, a freezer unit to keep
the tank cold so the gas doesn't expand prematurely. So we're back at the
use of electricity to keep the compressors running. Solar? It's
supplemental, not primary so you need a steady source.



VegasNightOwl

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On 10-05-26 11:41 AM, MNMikeW wrote:

Ok, will GW Bush be returning *HIS* BP contribution? Surely he could set
an example for others to follow.


Funny I didn't hear that Bush had his boots on the throat of BP. Keep
spinning Mikey.


I see no spin on my part. You want Obama to send his bribery money back.
Fine. Why shouldn't the OTHER recipients of Payola send theirs back
also? Does the money magically get cleaner if YOUR guy gets it?

As it stands, the oil/coal/sugar/money cartels have the whole political
process bought and paid for.

As Zappa said, Politics are the entertainment branch of Industry.



mike

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m II wrote:

On 10-05-26 11:41 AM, MNMikeW wrote:

Ok, will GW Bush be returning *HIS* BP contribution? Surely he could set
an example for others to follow.


Funny I didn't hear that Bush had his boots on the throat of BP. Keep
spinning Mikey.

I see no spin on my part. You want Obama to send his bribery money back.
Fine. Why shouldn't the OTHER recipients of Payola send theirs back
also? Does the money magically get cleaner if YOUR guy gets it?

As it stands, the oil/coal/sugar/money cartels have the whole political
process bought and paid for.

As Zappa said, Politics are the entertainment branch of Industry.

CanaDuh, and dumbass Canucks, are the entertainment branch of the political
world.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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I buy gas at Shell gas stations.If I didn't, skinny twin sister (Jeri,
she works offshore for Shell.She thinks she has a great singing voice
too, Heh,,, she doesn't, I have heard her singing before when she used
to live next door to doggy's couch. http://www.cowboysnightmare.com
) would come over here and whup my arse.
cuhulin

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On 10-05-26 12:34 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

Yes, it is logic - I am willing to take a loss for the long-term
greater good. I guess you have a problem with that philosophy - but
then compassion and altruism was never your strong suit.


I see MikeW dressed as Maynard G. Krebs, yelling ****ALTRUISM****





Jerome Krebs II

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If enough people in America Stopped buying British POLLUTION (BP)
gas/diesel fuel, Stopped going to British POLLUTION (BP) convenience
stations for other things, maybe British POLLUTION (BP) would Get The
HELL OUT Of America!!!

http://www.devilfinder.com
BP's trail of accidents, scandals

Do you think British POLLUTION (BP) will go Belly UP? Don't laugh, that
IS Possible!
cuhulin