CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On May 30, 1:53*pm, RHF wrote:
Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
*.

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:
Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
.
For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:
Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF

On 5/31/2010 2:06 AM, Bill Baka wrote:

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

Well, you may be right...or you may be wrong.

You know these bulbs are -identical- how? You've seen the specs for both
brands, you've done a comparative chemical analysis of the gas and the
phosphor coating inside the bulbs, right? Oh, what's that you say? They
both -look- like CFLs so they must be identical?

As an aside, got a friend that bought both the Chinese junkers and GE.
He claimed the warranty support for GE was great and non-existent for
the Chinese.

Finally, as to RFI... I've got two GE 3-way CFLs (50-100-150 watt
equivalent) very near my stereo receiver. There is subtle (but
noticeable) RFI when the receiver on and listening to the FM band. Yes,
you would think FM is immune to any amplitude modulated interference,
but the RFI IS there and goes away when the CFLs are turned off. Also,
bringing a Sony 2010 near the bulbs shows some mild RFI on some
frequencies, not all across the bands. If I wasn't so lazy, I would
break out the HP spectrum analyzer and take a look. :D

P.S.
Just in case you mistakenly think I am defending GE CEOs, I believe that
Neutron Jack Welch should have been put in jail long ago, rather than
being feted as a "business hero".

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

bpnjensen wrote:

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...

On 5/31/2010 10:58 AM, dave wrote:

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.

You added a zero, right?

3600 ma = 3.6 A X 120 volts = 432 watts. A mighty powerful desk lamp! :-)

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

http://www.devilfinder.com
LED Light Bulbs for your home

How about OLED Lighting? Wall and ceiling panels which light up your
home at the flip of a switch, and can be programed to turn on and off
automatically.It's coming, someday soon.
cuhulin

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:18:13 -0400, Joe from Kokomo
wrote:

bpnjensen wrote:

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...

On 5/31/2010 10:58 AM, dave wrote:

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.

You added a zero, right?

3600 ma = 3.6 A X 120 volts = 432 watts. A mighty powerful desk lamp! :-)

Might have meant milliwatts. 3.6 watts would be about right for a
flood LED.

Jim

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

bpnjensen wrote:
On May 30, 1:53 pm, wrote:
Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
.

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

dave wrote:

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.



Will it replace a burning laser? I need to cut some metal....





mike

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

http://www.devilfinder.com
Fire Starter Flashlight

You can make your own fire starter/starting flashlight too.A few years
ago, Popular Science magazine had an article how to do it, check your
local library.I don't know if it will cut metal though.It will make
steel wool blaze up.
cuhulin

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On 05/31/2010 06:55 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:
Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF

On 5/31/2010 2:06 AM, Bill Baka wrote:

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

Well, you may be right...or you may be wrong.

You know these bulbs are -identical- how? You've seen the specs for both
brands, you've done a comparative chemical analysis of the gas and the
phosphor coating inside the bulbs, right? Oh, what's that you say? They
both -look- like CFLs so they must be identical?

You want to analyze them be my guest.

As an aside, got a friend that bought both the Chinese junkers and GE.
He claimed the warranty support for GE was great and non-existent for
the Chinese.

Whoa, big surprise there. Be still my trembling heart.

Finally, as to RFI... I've got two GE 3-way CFLs (50-100-150 watt
equivalent) very near my stereo receiver. There is subtle (but
noticeable) RFI when the receiver on and listening to the FM band. Yes,
you would think FM is immune to any amplitude modulated interference,
but the RFI IS there and goes away when the CFLs are turned off. Also,
bringing a Sony 2010 near the bulbs shows some mild RFI on some
frequencies, not all across the bands. If I wasn't so lazy, I would
break out the HP spectrum analyzer and take a look. :D

You just had to mention a personal spectrum analyzer. Now I'm jealous.
The CFL's run hot due 'Probably' to the drive electronics being as cheap
as they possibly can. Anyway I think the main source of noise is
something else. I unplugged my power strip on the other side of the room
and got a little less noise but still well above the Galactic noise
level or the receiver's. I bought some new CDL's and replaced the really
crummy ones, so it is getting better. The worst offender now is a touch
lamp that uses an SCR, but even off it produces noise, again made in China.

P.S.
Just in case you mistakenly think I am defending GE CEOs, I believe that
Neutron Jack Welch should have been put in jail long ago, rather than
being feted as a "business hero".

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

I use General Electric Reveal 60 Watters Incandesant Light Bulbs.I
probally have enough of them here Ergo to last me quite a while.I am
going to buy a LOT more of them too tree fo.My old buddy would say, They
will last you the rest of your life!
cuhulin

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On May 31, 7:58*am, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On May 30, 1:53 pm, *wrote:
Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
* .

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. *Still want LEDs, tho...

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. *Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.

Cool! Maybe I'll check that out, thanks!

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

I think Office Depot stores sells some LED desk lights too.There are
some Office Depot (also Best Buy stores) stores around here, one of them
is about half a mile South of doggy's couch.Next I am floatin around
near that Office Depot store, if I think about it, I might stop off
there furr ah Looksee.

Some scientist people have discovered a way to make Aluminum
transparent.Cool!
cuhulin

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

Joe from Kokomo wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...

On 5/31/2010 10:58 AM, dave wrote:

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600
mA.

You added a zero, right?

3600 ma = 3.6 A X 120 volts = 432 watts. A mighty powerful desk lamp! :-)

I shouldn't try to be fancy early in the AM. I meant Milliwatts.

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

wrote:
http://www.devilfinder.com
LED Light Bulbs for your home

How about OLED Lighting? Wall and ceiling panels which light up your
home at the flip of a switch, and can be programed to turn on and off
automatically.It's coming, someday soon.
cuhulin


Flat panel TVs took 40 years. Don't hold your breath.

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On 5/31/2010 2:06 AM, Bill Baka wrote:

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

Well, you may be right...or you may be wrong.

You know these bulbs are -identical- how? You've seen the specs for both
brands, you've done a comparative chemical analysis of the gas and the
phosphor coating inside the bulbs, right? Oh, what's that you say? They
both -look- like CFLs so they must be identical?

On 5/31/2010 1:05 PM, Bill Baka wrote:

You want to analyze them be my guest.

ME analyze them? YOU were the one shooting from the hip when you said
they were -identical-. I just wanted YOU to defend YOUR statement. I am
still interested to know why you think they are identical.

As an aside, got a friend that bought both the Chinese junkers and GE.
He claimed the warranty support for GE was great and non-existent for
the Chinese.

On 5/31/2010 1:05 PM, Bill Baka wrote:

Whoa, big surprise there. Be still my trembling heart.

Well, maybe it -was- a big surprise to you, as you blamed it on CEO
greed...overlooking the fact that the price differential could be
related to a good warranty versus a poor or no warranty. (Not that we
don't have an overabundance of corporate greed). :-)

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On 05/31/2010 03:32 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 5/31/2010 2:06 AM, Bill Baka wrote:

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money.
I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

Well, you may be right...or you may be wrong.

You know these bulbs are -identical- how? You've seen the specs for both
brands, you've done a comparative chemical analysis of the gas and the
phosphor coating inside the bulbs, right? Oh, what's that you say? They
both -look- like CFLs so they must be identical?

On 5/31/2010 1:05 PM, Bill Baka wrote:

You want to analyze them be my guest.

ME analyze them? YOU were the one shooting from the hip when you said
they were -identical-. I just wanted YOU to defend YOUR statement. I am
still interested to know why you think they are identical.
I'm still not going to take the damn things apart and have the wife in a
fit.

As an aside, got a friend that bought both the Chinese junkers and GE.
He claimed the warranty support for GE was great and non-existent for
the Chinese.

On 5/31/2010 1:05 PM, Bill Baka wrote:

Whoa, big surprise there. Be still my trembling heart.

Well, maybe it -was- a big surprise to you, as you blamed it on CEO
greed...overlooking the fact that the price differential could be
related to a good warranty versus a poor or no warranty. (Not that we
don't have an overabundance of corporate greed). :-)

Tell that to the employees at Kodak who lost their jobs when the film
got too expensive and they moved to Mexico. Now the film division is
going down anyway. That corporate manager might not get his Porsche.

Do I feel sorry for the executive??
Hardly.

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

Not exactly light bulbs per se, but Sharp announces Quadtron LED 3D TVs.
http://www.techchee.com

Chee, far as I am concerned,,, too much money for the amount of bread.
I will wait for Holography TV.
Waiting, that will last me the rest of my life too.
cuhulin

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On May 31, 1:02*pm, wrote:
I think Office Depot stores sells some LED desk lights too.There are
some Office Depot (also Best Buy stores) stores around here, one of them
is about half a mile South of doggy's couch.Next I am floatin around
near that Office Depot store, if I think about it, I might stop off
there furr ah Looksee.

Some scientist people have discovered a way to make Aluminum
transparent.Cool!
cuhulin

Star Trek & Transparent Aluminium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_aluminium

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

No joking,,, transparent concrete has been invented, there is a certain
kind of a ''Flashlight'' which can ''see'' through walls, only fed govt
has access to those ''Flashlights''.It is a transparent World, except
for Born in Kenya! ULTIMATE POS!
cuhulin

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On May 30, 11:06*pm, Bill Baka wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
* .

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White & Warm White}

While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On May 30, 7:04*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On May 30, 1:53*pm, RHF wrote:



Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
*.

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. *Still want LEDs, tho...

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

Direct plug-in 120 VAC LEDs will have the same problem
getting the 120 VAC down to the lower DCV of the LED.
the LED's other Electronics could be a 'source' of some
very small amounts of RFI -if- done right -or- a 'source' of
some RFI -if- done cheaply/badly.

FWIW most of the LEDs that i have attempted to use
in the last few years have been : Too Dim or Fail within
a Year due to internal heat, internal 'connections' and
other AC to DC circuit components.

Not So Bright LEDs
LED Wattage to Incandescent Light Bulb [ILB] Watts :
1 LED Watt ~ 9 ILB Watt
2 LED Watt ~ 18 ILB Watt
3 LED Watt ~ 24 ILB Watt
4 LED Watt ~ 32 ILB Watt
5 LED Watt ~ 45 ILB Watt
-note- here that a 5 Watt LED is about as 'bright' as
a 'dim' 40 Watt ILB and most Consumers would not
think of using a 40 Watt ILB Bulb in a light socket.
6 LED Watt ~ 54 ILB Watt
7 LED Watt ~ 63 ILB Watt
-now- at 7 Watts an LED is is about as 'bright' as
a 'low light' 60 Watt ILB and most Consumers would
think of using one, two or three 60 Watt ILB Bulbs in
some light applications. -but- the 7 Watt LED Bulb
may 'cost' that Consumer ~$50 *ouch*
8 LED Watt ~ 72 ILB Watt
9 LED Watt ~ 81 ILB Watt
-better- at 8~9 Watts an LED is is about as 'bright' as
a 'moderate light' 75 Watt ILB and most Consumers
would think of using one 75 Watt ILB Bulbs in some
light applications. -but- again the 8~9 Watt LED Bulb
may 'cost' that Consumer ~$75 *ouch*ouch*
10 LED Watt ~ 90 ILB Watt
11 LED Watt ~ 99 ILB Watt
12 LED Watt ~ 108 ILB Watt
-best- at 11~12 Watts an LED is is about as 'bright' as
a 'standard light' 100 Watt ILB and most Consumers
would think of using one 100 Watt ILB Bulbs in most
light applications. -but- again the 11~12 Watt LED Bulb
may 'cost' that Consumer ~$100 *ouch*ouch*ouch*

FWIW at $0.10 per KW : $100 can buy a lot of KWs
over time per ILB and even more with CFLs without
a Capital Investment of $100s for LEDs.

i have seen the light and it's called the 'sun' ~ RHF

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On May 31, 7:51*am, wrote:
On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:18:13 -0400, Joe from Kokomo
wrote:

bpnjensen wrote:

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...

On 5/31/2010 10:58 AM, dave wrote:

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.

You added a zero, right?

3600 ma = 3.6 A X 120 volts = 432 watts. A mighty powerful desk lamp! * :-)

- Might have meant milliwatts. 3.6 watts
- would be about right for a flood LED.
-
- Jim

LEDs are Not So Bright !

LED Wattage -to- Incandescent Light Bulb Watts :

3.6 LED Watt ~ 32 Incandescent Light Bulb Watts

Note that a 3.6 Watt LED is about as 'bright'
as a 'dim' 40 Watt Incandescent Light Bulb.

~ RHF

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On May 31, 1:54*pm, dave wrote:
- - wrote:
- - http://www.devilfinder.com
- -LED Light Bulbs for your home
- -
- - How about OLED Lighting? Wall and ceiling panels
- - which light up your home at the flip of a switch, and
- - can be programed to turn on and off automatically.
- - It's coming, someday soon.
- - cuhulin

- Flat panel TVs took 40 years. *Don't hold your breath.

Yeah at $100 a Square Foot for OLED [TV] Lighting
you could do an 8'x10' Wall for $800 and have as
much 'mood' lighting as four 100 Watt Incandescent
Light Bulbs and a Dimmer Switch for $20.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED

Still waiting on the Electroluminescence (EL)
"Ceilings of Light" that were going to be the
Home Lighting of the 'future' in the 1960s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroluminescence
* Electroluminescent Displays (ELDs)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroluminescent_display

~ RHF

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On 06/01/2010 02:17 AM, RHF wrote:
On May 30, 11:06 pm, Bill wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
.

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White& Warm White}

While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

Why do you think they have such great service? It's prepaid for by you
the customer.

-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF
.

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

RHF wrote:
On May 30, 11:06 pm, Bill wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
.

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White& Warm White}

While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF
.
I think the most interference is between 10 and 100 kHz. Beyond that it
drops off quickly. Never been an issue here. I can get KUZZ 24/7.

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

On Jun 1, 7:18*am, Bill Baka wrote:
On 06/01/2010 02:17 AM, RHF wrote:



On May 30, 11:06 pm, Bill *wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
* *.

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White& *Warm White}

- - While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

- Why do you think they have such great *service?
- It's prepaid for by you the customer.

Yeah - The Cost of Doing Business
-is- The Cost of Doing Business
and that "Cost" is normally built into the Price of
the Product or Service that the Customer Pays*.

* Note including the "Cost" of Business Taxes
and Payroll Taxes. {more of the 'indirect' Taxes
we all pay daily}

taxes ... pass it along ~ RHF


-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF
* .

CFLs the Reveal-ing Truth [RFI]
 

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