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Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
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On May 30, 1:53*pm, RHF wrote:
Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
*.


The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...
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On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:
Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
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For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.
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On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:
Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF


On 5/31/2010 2:06 AM, Bill Baka wrote:

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.


Well, you may be right...or you may be wrong.

You know these bulbs are -identical- how? You've seen the specs for both
brands, you've done a comparative chemical analysis of the gas and the
phosphor coating inside the bulbs, right? Oh, what's that you say? They
both -look- like CFLs so they must be identical?

As an aside, got a friend that bought both the Chinese junkers and GE.
He claimed the warranty support for GE was great and non-existent for
the Chinese.

Finally, as to RFI... I've got two GE 3-way CFLs (50-100-150 watt
equivalent) very near my stereo receiver. There is subtle (but
noticeable) RFI when the receiver on and listening to the FM band. Yes,
you would think FM is immune to any amplitude modulated interference,
but the RFI IS there and goes away when the CFLs are turned off. Also,
bringing a Sony 2010 near the bulbs shows some mild RFI on some
frequencies, not all across the bands. If I wasn't so lazy, I would
break out the HP spectrum analyzer and take a look.

P.S.
Just in case you mistakenly think I am defending GE CEOs, I believe that
Neutron Jack Welch should have been put in jail long ago, rather than
being feted as a "business hero".

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bpnjensen wrote:

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...


On 5/31/2010 10:58 AM, dave wrote:

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.


You added a zero, right?

3600 ma = 3.6 A X 120 volts = 432 watts. A mighty powerful desk lamp! :-)



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LED Light Bulbs for your home

How about OLED Lighting? Wall and ceiling panels which light up your
home at the flip of a switch, and can be programed to turn on and off
automatically.It's coming, someday soon.
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On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:18:13 -0400, Joe from Kokomo
wrote:

bpnjensen wrote:

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...


On 5/31/2010 10:58 AM, dave wrote:

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.


You added a zero, right?

3600 ma = 3.6 A X 120 volts = 432 watts. A mighty powerful desk lamp! :-)


Might have meant milliwatts. 3.6 watts would be about right for a
flood LED.

Jim
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bpnjensen wrote:
On May 30, 1:53 pm, wrote:
Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
.


The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...


Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.
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dave wrote:

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.




Will it replace a burning laser? I need to cut some metal....





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Fire Starter Flashlight

You can make your own fire starter/starting flashlight too.A few years
ago, Popular Science magazine had an article how to do it, check your
local library.I don't know if it will cut metal though.It will make
steel wool blaze up.
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