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On Jun 12, 10:15*am, Bill Baka wrote:
On 06/11/2010 09:34 AM, wrote: Durn Tootin! Drill em Full of Lead! ~ George ''Gabby'' Hayes.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=290913


And the way B.O.Plenty used to spit in those old Dick Tracy comic books
I used to read back in the 1940s.


I got an email yesterday from that married Irish woman wayyyyyyyyyy over
yonder across the big pond.She said she hasen't heard didly squat from
me in quite a while.
I reckon I better email her.


http://ingeb.org/songs/othentel.html
cuhulin


Not that I am going to pick a flame war, but aren't you posting in the
wrong place unless you keep in contact using a shortwave??
Bill Baka


Not Cuhulin. He has been "grand fathered" in, he can say what he wants
- On topic or Off. :-)

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On Jun 12, 6:09*pm, dxAce wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
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Might it be really dark when Arizona cuts off the juice?


dxAce
Michigan
USA


The mere threat of doing so could actually get AZ in a buttload of trouble
with the feds. Along with being illegal (extortion), it's also a threat to
national security and an act of terrorism under the Patriot Act. But then,
AZ doesn't seem to care what anyone thinks.


Threat to national security? Come on. Arizona is merely trying to enhance
national security.


Something that Boy Barry and his cadre of Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists
seem to care little about.


Buy Arizona. Support Freedom.


One other item: Just how did Boy Barry's Aunt obtain 'asylum' under our nations
immigration laws?

What 'threat' was she under in Kenya?

If she was under some 'threat', then why were Boy Barry's other relatives not
airlifted out of Kenya?

Why were Boy Barry's Aunt's immigration papers, and the reason for her 'asylum'
sealed?

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All fair questions that will have either no answer or made up
answers. ;-)
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On Jun 12, 4:11*pm, Gregg wrote:
On Jun 12, 6:09*pm, dxAce wrote:



dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Might it be really dark when Arizona cuts off the juice?


dxAce
Michigan
USA


The mere threat of doing so could actually get AZ in a buttload of trouble
with the feds. Along with being illegal (extortion), it's also a threat to
national security and an act of terrorism under the Patriot Act. But then,
AZ doesn't seem to care what anyone thinks.


Threat to national security? Come on. Arizona is merely trying to enhance
national security.


Something that Boy Barry and his cadre of Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists
seem to care little about.


Buy Arizona. Support Freedom.


One other item: Just how did Boy Barry's Aunt obtain 'asylum' under our nations
immigration laws?


What 'threat' was she under in Kenya?


If she was under some 'threat', then why were Boy Barry's other relatives not
airlifted out of Kenya?


Why were Boy Barry's Aunt's immigration papers, and the reason for her 'asylum'
sealed?


dxAce
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All fair questions that will have either no answer or made up
answers. ;-)


Now the Obama Regime wants to 'seal' the Records
of their new Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Kagan

What is it that the Obama Regime does not
want the American Public {Voters} to know
about Elena Kagan ?

What is the Obama Regime Hiding from the
American Public {Voters} about Elena Kagan ?

hey didn't prez obama did promise a 'transparent'
administration and presidency -so- what's with
all the sealing of government officials records ~ RHF
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On Jun 12, 10:13*am, dxAce wrote:
dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:


On Jun 12, 5:08 am, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Jun 11, 1:40 pm, Bob *wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:


Metal Halide lamps, especially unshielded, are the pits. *Brilliant,
sky-obscuring, and hard to overcome with normal amateur filter
equipment.


I remember MHs as having a discontinuous spectrum
with about five distinct resonance points
so you would have to combine filtration,
unlike the monochromatic LPS lights.
They probably have some IR and UV too
but I only looked at the visible range in my spectrographic device.


--


Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42


Thanks for this, Bob. *We have filters that can filter out more than
one wavelength, and we can stack filters up to a point - but none that
will cut all five of the spikes, and too many stacked means you also
lose precious desirable light. *We also have broader band filters
designed to cut general LP that would probably address all five, but
these filters are also weaker than the stronger line filters. *You are
right about LPS, it's a snap to filter - which is why it's been
encouraged for cities near major observatories, such as Lick, Mt.
Wilson (now pretty much useless) and Palomar.


Of course, just as in radio an RF quiet area is best, so in astronomy
nothing beats a good rural or wilderness *dark* sky.


Bruce Jensen
California


As Wilson is primarily a solar observatory these days, I doubt the gas
mixture in the street lamps is very important. *I am 18 miles NNW of
Wilson at 1,790', and I can see the Milky Way from my back yard.


That's why it's primarily a solar observatory - the LP from LA has
rendered it useless for dark sky astro. *18 miles can make a big
difference...but it takes a REALLY dark sky for the Milky Way to throw
shadows...


Might it be really dark when Arizona cuts off the juice?


Hopin' that they might teach the clown 'tards out in CA a lesson, don'tcha
know.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


As if they had the authority anyway.
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On Jun 12, 2:48*pm, dxAce wrote:

Buy Arizona. Support Freedom.

dxAce
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USA


You are a master of irony!


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On Jun 12, 4:11*pm, Gregg wrote:
On Jun 12, 6:09*pm, dxAce wrote:





dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Might it be really dark when Arizona cuts off the juice?


dxAce
Michigan
USA


The mere threat of doing so could actually get AZ in a buttload of trouble
with the feds. Along with being illegal (extortion), it's also a threat to
national security and an act of terrorism under the Patriot Act. But then,
AZ doesn't seem to care what anyone thinks.


Threat to national security? Come on. Arizona is merely trying to enhance
national security.


Something that Boy Barry and his cadre of Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists
seem to care little about.


Buy Arizona. Support Freedom.


One other item: Just how did Boy Barry's Aunt obtain 'asylum' under our nations
immigration laws?


What 'threat' was she under in Kenya?


If she was under some 'threat', then why were Boy Barry's other relatives not
airlifted out of Kenya?


Why were Boy Barry's Aunt's immigration papers, and the reason for her 'asylum'
sealed?


dxAce
Michigan
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All fair questions that will have either no answer or made up
answers. ;-)


Always fun to divert attention from the far larger problems at hand,
isn't it?
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On Jun 12, 1:49*pm, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Jun 12, 5:08 am, *wrote:


As Wilson is primarily a solar observatory these days, I doubt the gas
mixture in the street lamps is very important. *I am 18 miles NNW of
Wilson at 1,790', and I can see the Milky Way from my back yard.


That's why it's primarily a solar observatory - the LP from LA has
rendered it useless for dark sky astro. *18 miles can make a big
difference...but it takes a REALLY dark sky for the Milky Way to throw
shadows...


As I recall from some hideous PBS in a hotel room, the 100" [?] was too
tiny for anything else, according to the guy who built the 200" on
Palomar. *I'm way too busy to look it up.


Well, that's funny - up here at Lick, the 120" still does amazing
science. In fact, amateurs with scopes far smaller contribute immense
knowledge every year. I think the interviewee was suffering from
aperture envy.
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bpnjensen wrote:

On Jun 12, 10:13 am, dxAce wrote:
dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:


On Jun 12, 5:08 am, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Jun 11, 1:40 pm, Bob wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:


Metal Halide lamps, especially unshielded, are the pits. Brilliant,
sky-obscuring, and hard to overcome with normal amateur filter
equipment.


I remember MHs as having a discontinuous spectrum
with about five distinct resonance points
so you would have to combine filtration,
unlike the monochromatic LPS lights.
They probably have some IR and UV too
but I only looked at the visible range in my spectrographic device.


--


Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42


Thanks for this, Bob. We have filters that can filter out more than
one wavelength, and we can stack filters up to a point - but none that
will cut all five of the spikes, and too many stacked means you also
lose precious desirable light. We also have broader band filters
designed to cut general LP that would probably address all five, but
these filters are also weaker than the stronger line filters. You are
right about LPS, it's a snap to filter - which is why it's been
encouraged for cities near major observatories, such as Lick, Mt.
Wilson (now pretty much useless) and Palomar.


Of course, just as in radio an RF quiet area is best, so in astronomy
nothing beats a good rural or wilderness *dark* sky.


Bruce Jensen
California


As Wilson is primarily a solar observatory these days, I doubt the gas
mixture in the street lamps is very important. I am 18 miles NNW of
Wilson at 1,790', and I can see the Milky Way from my back yard.


That's why it's primarily a solar observatory - the LP from LA has
rendered it useless for dark sky astro. 18 miles can make a big
difference...but it takes a REALLY dark sky for the Milky Way to throw
shadows...


Might it be really dark when Arizona cuts off the juice?


Hopin' that they might teach the clown 'tards out in CA a lesson, don'tcha
know.



As if they had the authority anyway.


If they control the switch, they have the authority!

If some damn clown 'tard (such as Obangi) says that I, or anyone else, has to sell a
product or service to anyone else, then what we have here, today, is finished.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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bpnjensen wrote:

On Jun 12, 2:48 pm, dxAce wrote:

Buy Arizona. Support Freedom.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


You are a master of irony!


And you are nothing more than the typical Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist
clown 'tard, boy!


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dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:


One other item: Just how did Boy Barry's Aunt obtain 'asylum' under our nations
immigration laws?

What 'threat' was she under in Kenya?

If she was under some 'threat', then why were Boy Barry's other relatives not
airlifted out of Kenya?

Why were Boy Barry's Aunt's immigration papers, and the reason for her 'asylum'
sealed?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


You are stupid.


Really, clown 'tard, how so?

This immigration is misdirection.


Not immigration, 'tard boy, we're talking 'asylum'. Pull your head out of your
Marxist ass.

You are being played
like a cheap suit.


I have no cheap suits, I wear the finest threads, 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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