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Dear Senator, My wife and I have a small store where we have been selling shrimp from for 11 years. Our store is actually a boat in St. Andrews Marina. Everyday fishermen hired by BP are going out in search of oil. I see 30 to 50 boats leave every morning. Many (it should be most*) of these are fishermen that have lost there means of making a living. BP has hired them and is paying them well. At this time we have no oil in Panama City. MY FIRST POINT, don't do anything that will affect the financial viability of BP. You should encourage purchase of BP fuel, you need to keep BP healthy so the stock price can rise, this makes BP stronger so it can continue to pay cleanup crews and claims. I am on this marina everyday and I know most of the fishermen, the fisherman are thrilled with the pay from BP. A small boat of 20 ft gets $1000 dollars day, This is $250,000 a year for a 5 day work week. Fuel and supplies are paid by BP. The larger the boat the higher the pay, $3000 a day is the highest I have heard. That's $750,000 a year, and the expenses are paid. Deckhands are getting $200 dollars a day, that is $50,000 a year. Most of these deckhands never saw $20,000 a year in there life. The pay is so high that the shrimpers are stopping shrimping and going to work for BP, on oil patrol. The same is happening in Apalachicola Fl, (about 100 miles SE of me) the oyster capitol of this area. Our local oyster bar had to find a new source for oysters, his oystermen went to work for BP. A quote from our local newspaper, "APALACHICOLA - With compensation checks easily available, oystering has slowed to a crawl on Apalachicola Bay. ...Seafood houses across the county say they are able to obtain barely 10 percent of their normal allotment of oysters. There are plenty of oysters. ( just know one to harvest them) Same with Apalachicola shrimpers, There is no oil and plenty of shrimp. Panama City Beach is a tourist area, when the oil gets here the thousands of hotel rooms will not have tourists, the housekeepers won't have work, the restaurants won't have customers and waitresses tips will dwindle. All business will be affected. Real estate is already greatly affected, people don't want to buy with oil coming and some know prices will be lower in 3 or 4 months. Now back to my situation, for the last 7 years we have been open 10 hrs a day, 7 days a week, 363 days a year. We will continue working until we can't. The plan was 7 to 10 more years, now I don't know if it will be one more month or one more year. At this point I am confident BP will pay for any losses that I may have in the future, but they need to continue to be financially strong. I'm sure you're aware that the BP stock price is down 44% since the spill started. This means they have lost 73 billion in market capitalization. It is time to help the company recover rather than do anything that could affect the price further. Many retirees rely on BP dividends for retirement income. If you push the idea to create an escrow fund and cause the dividend to be unpaid, this will lower the stock price, further weakening the company. Without those dividends the retirees will find other stocks to get there income**. This could cause BP to fail. If you allow BP to stay strong, the 15 to 20 billion dollars of profit they generate every year will be more than enough to pay cleanup and claims. Please stay focused on the unintended consequences of creating an escrow fund. Sincerely, Mike Knowlton **Recreational fisherman are jumping on this gravy train, it should have been commercial fishermen first. Retirees are supplementing their retirement with their recreational fishing boat. ** ( starting with 44% less money) |
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I Want our Gulf of Mexico Back, the Way it used to be!
To HELL!!! WITH BP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cuhulin |
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amdx wrote:
I just want the world to know. MY FIRST POINT, don't do anything that will affect the financial viability of BP. You should encourage purchase of BP fuel, you need to keep BP healthy so the stock price can rise, this makes BP stronger so it can continue to pay cleanup crews and claims. You gotta be kidding me. BP is not going to clean this up. Obama is not going to clean this up. A dozen hurricanes is not going to clean this up. **** BP. **** the oil business. **** Western Civilization. |
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On Jun 16, 8:06*am, dave wrote:
amdx wrote: * *I just want the world to know. MY FIRST POINT, don't do anything that will affect the financial viability of BP. You should encourage purchase of BP fuel, you need to keep BP healthy so the stock price can rise, this makes BP stronger so it can continue to pay cleanup crews and claims. - You gotta be kidding me. - - BP is not going to clean this up. -*Obama is not going to clean this up. - A dozen hurricanes is not going to clean this up. - - **** BP. -***** the oil business. - **** Western Civilization. Dave -proclaims- **** BP. Dave -proclaims- **** the oil business. Dave -proclaims- **** Western Civilization. Now Dave, I bet if you had to condense it down to just one word that word would be "****" ! dave - you are so 'special' ~ RHF |
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On Jun 16, 9:33*am, wrote:
I Want our Gulf of Mexico Back, the Way it used to be! To HELL!!! WITH BP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cuhulin Unfortunately Cuh, it will NEVER be the way it used to be. Once oil leaks, that's bad enough, but to be let go totally unabated like this has. It'll never be the same, let me rephrase that, not in two lifetimes IMO - maybe three. |
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On Jun 16, 12:05*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Jun 16, 8:59*am, "amdx" wrote: wrote in message ... I Want our Gulf of Mexico Back, the Way it used to be! To HELL!!! WITH BP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cuhulin * Do you have a replacement for oil that will work for all Americans so they can get to work tommorrow? Can you supply the demands of indusry tomorrow without Oil? BP is a 100,000 workers, and many more in smaller companies that sell goods and services to support their industry. There are millions of retires depending on the dividends paid quarterly by BP for the income. *There were a few people that made poor decisions that 99% of the time would have never been noticed. This time things conspired and we have an accident that is huge. *Blame government, this all started in the 70s, we should have started seriously looking for alternatives then. *Also look at the environmentalists and NIMBYs that pushed BP 50 miles of shore in 5000 ft of water. Bp would much rather be in 200 ft off water where this would have been fixed in two days. * * You may "feel" Bp should go to hell, but clearly you have not done any logical analysis of the situation and the effect that bankrupting BP will have. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Mike It DID happen in the 1970's - Jimmy Carter tried with his might to urge alternative solutions; his successor, starting in 1980, took alternative energy off the table and effectively shelved it for almost 30 years. *We, the American people, never should have let this happen - but wealth and comfort can make people lazy and overlook the needs of the future. I should have pushed harder. *Every day, every way. *This specific issue is BP's responsibility, but the spill is my fault.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you believe the stories Bruce (and I do) there have been many people and companies with the answer, only to be squashed like a bug by big oil and the idiots on Capitol Hill lining their pockets. Just my pennies worth. |
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Don'tchoo cuss on this hear radio? ~ Burt Reynolds - Smoky and the
Bandit. Thanks ~ Sally Fields. cuhulin |
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Larry, how often did/do you go to the beach?
How often do you go fishing in open waters? How much fresh seafood do you eat? I know you will tell the truth. TIA -- Burr Big, Lean, Mean and Clean I'll be lifting until they pry the bar from my cold dead hands Adventure before Dementia wrote in message ... I Want our Gulf of Mexico Back, the Way it used to be! To HELL!!! WITH BP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cuhulin |
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There cuzzin Burr issa,,,
I haven't been to a beach since around 1997 or 1998.I haven't been fishing in many, many years.If you go fishing, get a can of sweet corn and poke some holes in the can and hang it in the water.It will bring the fishies to you. Seafood? Now I am hongry! cuhulin |
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:09:32 -0500, amdx wrote:
"dave" wrote in message . .. amdx wrote: I just want the world to know. MY FIRST POINT, don't do anything that will affect the financial viability of BP. You should encourage purchase of BP fuel, you need to keep BP healthy so the stock price can rise, this makes BP stronger so it can continue to pay cleanup crews and claims. You gotta be kidding me. BP is not going to clean this up. Obama is not going to clean this up. A dozen hurricanes is not going to clean this up. That's not what I see from the marina I'm on, Every morning 30 to 50 boats leave on oil patrol. If they see anything they have pads, booms and equipment to clean it up. They are getting paid well, a small boat owner is getting $250,000 a year, a bigger boat could get $750,000. Their fuel and expenses are paid by BP. This is 3 to 10 times more than these fishermen ever earned in their life. I agree, Obama will not clean it up. He is clueless. Great! This is working out sooo well that perhaps we should do this to the California coast! I like how it's worked out for Alaska, Thank you Sarah! Stop eating fish, kill-em off then scoop em out! |
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Paul Briskette wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:09:32 -0500, amdx wrote: wrote in message . .. amdx wrote: I just want the world to know. MY FIRST POINT, don't do anything that will affect the financial viability of BP. You should encourage purchase of BP fuel, you need to keep BP healthy so the stock price can rise, this makes BP stronger so it can continue to pay cleanup crews and claims. You gotta be kidding me. BP is not going to clean this up. Obama is not going to clean this up. A dozen hurricanes is not going to clean this up. That's not what I see from the marina I'm on, Every morning 30 to 50 boats leave on oil patrol. If they see anything they have pads, booms and equipment to clean it up. They are getting paid well, a small boat owner is getting $250,000 a year, a bigger boat could get $750,000. Their fuel and expenses are paid by BP. This is 3 to 10 times more than these fishermen ever earned in their life. I agree, Obama will not clean it up. He is clueless. Great! This is working out sooo well that perhaps we should do this to the California coast! I like how it's worked out for Alaska, Thank you Sarah! Stop eating fish, kill-em off then scoop em out! Shrimpers normally make near $10K a week this time of year. |
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On Jun 18, 10:33*pm, "amdx" wrote:
"dave" wrote in message . .. Paul Briskette wrote: On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:09:32 -0500, amdx wrote: *wrote in message om... amdx wrote: * * I just want the world to know. MY FIRST POINT, don't do anything that will affect the financial viability of BP. You should encourage purchase of BP fuel, you need to keep BP healthy so the stock price can rise, this makes BP stronger so it can continue to pay cleanup crews and claims. You gotta be kidding me. BP is not going to clean this up. *Obama is not going to clean this up. A dozen hurricanes is not going to clean this up. * *That's not what I see from the marina I'm on, Every morning 30 to 50 * *boats leave on oil patrol. If they see anything they have pads, booms and equipment to clean it up. They are getting paid well, a small boat owner is getting $250,000 a year, a bigger boat could get $750,000. Their fuel and expenses are paid by BP. This is 3 to 10 times more than these fishermen ever earned in their life. * I agree, Obama will not clean it up. He is clueless. Great! *This is working out sooo well that perhaps we should do this to the California coast! *I like how it's worked out for Alaska, *Thank you Sarah! Stop eating fish, kill-em off then scoop em out! Shrimpers normally make near $10K a week this time of year. * Where at? What size boat? How many in the crew. *Here in Panama City, where we have a bay and many of the boats only work the bay. Occasionally these boats will go out the pass and work in the gulf, when the bay shrimp get to small or are not showing. An example of one local shrimper, a 30ft boat, captain and 1 or 2 deckhands.. Leave the dock at about 6pm get back about 8:30 am get unloaded by 9:30, lately about 250 lbs of shrimp, sorted in two or three sizes. *Prices are up a little now but, prices would run between $2.30 and $3.10 per lb. *So say an average of $2.70 an lb. *That's $675, fuel will be at least $150, deckhand, we'll say $90, slip rent $10 a day. $675-$250 = $425 a day times 5 days is $2,125 a week. This does not include any maintenance of the boat which is substantial *even though much of the labor is done by the owner, a low guess, say 20%. Now we are down under $2,000 a week. I have seen nights with 37 lb and I have seen 500 lb nights. The bay boat shrimpers generally only can work about 6 months a year. The shrimp are only in the bay certain months. It is also rare to see these shrimpers actually work five nights a week. * There is a 42 ft boat that probably does better, but he cherry picks and only runs when the shrimp are plentiful, he could possibly, maybe, GROSS $10,000 a week for a few weeks. *We also have 65 ft or 70 ft freezer boats that go long distances in the gulf, for three week trips the may get 10,000 lbs, sometimes more. *That's $27,000 or $9,000 a week gross. This boat a has a crew of four and captain, I'd guess at least $3,000 in wages and then add fuel *and the income shrinks considerably. * It has been my experience in the last 10 years that shrimpers are always complaining that there is no money, and that the wholesalers and retailers make all the money. I think they are right. *Anyway $10,000 a week, * Where at? What size boat? How many in the crew? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good post. Those skippers and crew on Deadliest Catch, now they can make some serious money. Sadly, this Tues. show will be where Capt. Phil goes down. That's pretty sad. You know he's been dead for three months maybe - but it's like he's still alive seeing him on the show. Sorry to go somewhat OT. |
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