On Jun 20, 7:26*pm, dave wrote:
First Post. wrote:

You using a computer makes it your fault as well.
As well as you drinking anything from any plastic container and using
any one of a multitude of products that would not exist if not for
crude oil.
There would not even be an asphalt road for you to ride your little
bicycle on if not for crude oil.
Even the greenest of greenies utilize crude oil in one form or another
dozens of times on any given day.

Well then. *It appears to be your fault as well. *I don't feel so bad now.

My PC runs off solar.

On 6/21/10 09:41 , bpnjensen wrote:

My PC runs off solar.



Which equipment are you using to achieve that?

On Jun 21, 8:08*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 6/21/10 09:41 , bpnjensen wrote:

My PC runs off solar.

* *Which equipment are you using to achieve that?

This is at work. Here at work, we have a large array over the parking
lot that supplies a bunch of energy to our complex every day, rain or
shine, and it's prtety efficient. I don't know the manufacturer, but
I could find out. Extra to run back to the grid, too. That meter
turns backwards starting shortly after sunrise and won't quit all day.

Our land use policies encourage solar on every rooftop and parking lot
around. We're looking for ways to subsidize those as much as
possible. I have been given to understand that Alameda County, as an
entity, uses a higher ratio of solar energy than any other County in
the U.S. - but that may have changed. We're trying :-)

At home, my not-too-distant future intent is to get a substantial
solar panel on the rooftop, maybe even a small wind turbine to
augment. We're breezy enough here so that such a system would be
worthwhile. I'd have to think about a storage battery or fuel cell.
Maybe a compressed air storage system? There are some other
technologies coming around too. I'm a big fan of Thorium nuclear,
which is going to be coming aboard in India, China, maybe France in
the next few years. Working prototypes have been around for decades,
some industries use small versions right now. Much less troublesome
than U or Pu nuclear in every respect, and plenty of fuel for hundreds
of years - until we get Fusion working.

Bruce Jensen

On Jun 21, 9:23*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On Jun 21, 8:08*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:

On 6/21/10 09:41 , bpnjensen wrote:

My PC runs off solar.

* *Which equipment are you using to achieve that?

This is at work. *Here at work, we have a large array over the parking
lot that supplies a bunch of energy to our complex every day, rain or
shine, and it's prtety efficient. *I don't know the manufacturer, but
I could find out. *Extra to run back to the grid, too. *That meter
turns backwards starting shortly after sunrise and won't quit all day.

Our land use policies encourage solar on every rooftop and parking lot
around. *We're looking for ways to subsidize those as much as
possible. *I have been given to understand that Alameda County, as an
entity, uses a higher ratio of solar energy than any other County in
the U.S. - but that may have changed. *We're trying :-)

At home, my not-too-distant future intent is to get a substantial
solar panel on the rooftop, maybe even a small wind turbine to
augment. *We're breezy enough here so that such a system would be
worthwhile. *I'd have to think about a storage battery or fuel cell.
Maybe a compressed air storage system? *There are some other
technologies coming around too. *I'm a big fan of Thorium nuclear,
which is going to be coming aboard in India, China, maybe France in
the next few years. *Working prototypes have been around for decades,
some industries use small versions right now. *Much less troublesome
than U or Pu nuclear in every respect, and plenty of fuel for hundreds
of years - until we get Fusion working.

Bruce Jensen

****Hey Blow Job Jensen, STFU! WTF! Big f%cking deal your laptop runs
on "solar". STFU BJ. And your meter runs backwards all day "selling
back into the grid". STFU! We all know one thing for sure, YOU DIDN't
PAY for any of it so shut your pie hole. Yea, I'm sure you are going
to rush right out and buy a gigantic solar panel for your roof and a
wind turbine to supplement it, you @$$ H%LE!

On 6/21/10 13:42 , rod wrote:
On Jun 21, 9:23 am, wrote:
On Jun 21, 8:08 am, "D. Peter wrote:

On 6/21/10 09:41 , bpnjensen wrote:

My PC runs off solar.

Which equipment are you using to achieve that?

This is at work. Here at work, we have a large array over the parking
lot that supplies a bunch of energy to our complex every day, rain or
shine, and it's prtety efficient. I don't know the manufacturer, but
I could find out. Extra to run back to the grid, too. That meter
turns backwards starting shortly after sunrise and won't quit all day.

Our land use policies encourage solar on every rooftop and parking lot
around. We're looking for ways to subsidize those as much as
possible. I have been given to understand that Alameda County, as an
entity, uses a higher ratio of solar energy than any other County in
the U.S. - but that may have changed. We're trying :-)

At home, my not-too-distant future intent is to get a substantial
solar panel on the rooftop, maybe even a small wind turbine to
augment. We're breezy enough here so that such a system would be
worthwhile. I'd have to think about a storage battery or fuel cell.
Maybe a compressed air storage system? There are some other
technologies coming around too. I'm a big fan of Thorium nuclear,
which is going to be coming aboard in India, China, maybe France in
the next few years. Working prototypes have been around for decades,
some industries use small versions right now. Much less troublesome
than U or Pu nuclear in every respect, and plenty of fuel for hundreds
of years - until we get Fusion working.

Bruce Jensen

****Hey Blow Job Jensen, STFU! WTF! Big f%cking deal your laptop runs
on "solar". STFU BJ. And your meter runs backwards all day "selling
back into the grid". STFU! We all know one thing for sure, YOU DIDN't
PAY for any of it so shut your pie hole. Yea, I'm sure you are going
to rush right out and buy a gigantic solar panel for your roof and a
wind turbine to supplement it, you @$$ H%LE!


He might not. But I will. And I can run my entire radio operation
on it all. In that sense, his information is useful. Which is why I
asked for him to describe it.

p

On Jun 21, 11:53*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 6/21/10 13:42 , rod wrote:





On Jun 21, 9:23 am, *wrote:
On Jun 21, 8:08 am, "D. Peter *wrote:

On 6/21/10 09:41 , bpnjensen wrote:

My PC runs off solar.

* * Which equipment are you using to achieve that?

This is at work. *Here at work, we have a large array over the parking
lot that supplies a bunch of energy to our complex every day, rain or
shine, and it's prtety efficient. *I don't know the manufacturer, but
I could find out. *Extra to run back to the grid, too. *That meter
turns backwards starting shortly after sunrise and won't quit all day.

Our land use policies encourage solar on every rooftop and parking lot
around. *We're looking for ways to subsidize those as much as
possible. *I have been given to understand that Alameda County, as an
entity, uses a higher ratio of solar energy than any other County in
the U.S. - but that may have changed. *We're trying :-)

At home, my not-too-distant future intent is to get a substantial
solar panel on the rooftop, maybe even a small wind turbine to
augment. *We're breezy enough here so that such a system would be
worthwhile. *I'd have to think about a storage battery or fuel cell.
Maybe a compressed air storage system? *There are some other
technologies coming around too. *I'm a big fan of Thorium nuclear,
which is going to be coming aboard in India, China, maybe France in
the next few years. *Working prototypes have been around for decades,
some industries use small versions right now. *Much less troublesome
than U or Pu nuclear in every respect, and plenty of fuel for hundreds
of years - until we get Fusion working.

Bruce Jensen

****Hey Blow Job Jensen, STFU! WTF! Big f%cking deal your laptop runs
on "solar". STFU BJ. And your meter runs backwards all day "selling
back into the grid". STFU! We all know one thing for sure, YOU DIDN't
PAY for any of it so shut your pie hole. Yea, I'm sure you are going
to rush right out and buy a gigantic solar panel for your roof and a
wind turbine to supplement it, you @$$ H%LE!

* *He might not. But I will. And I can run my entire radio operation
on it all. In that sense, his information is useful. Which is why I
asked for him to describe it.

* *p- Hide quoted text -

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Rod's a funny guy, eh? ;-)

On 6/21/10 14:20 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Jun 21, 11:53 am, "D. Peter wrote:
On 6/21/10 13:42 , rod wrote:





On Jun 21, 9:23 am, wrote:
On Jun 21, 8:08 am, "D. Peter wrote:

On 6/21/10 09:41 , bpnjensen wrote:

My PC runs off solar.

Which equipment are you using to achieve that?

This is at work. Here at work, we have a large array over the parking
lot that supplies a bunch of energy to our complex every day, rain or
shine, and it's prtety efficient. I don't know the manufacturer, but
I could find out. Extra to run back to the grid, too. That meter
turns backwards starting shortly after sunrise and won't quit all day.

Our land use policies encourage solar on every rooftop and parking lot
around. We're looking for ways to subsidize those as much as
possible. I have been given to understand that Alameda County, as an
entity, uses a higher ratio of solar energy than any other County in
the U.S. - but that may have changed. We're trying :-)

At home, my not-too-distant future intent is to get a substantial
solar panel on the rooftop, maybe even a small wind turbine to
augment. We're breezy enough here so that such a system would be
worthwhile. I'd have to think about a storage battery or fuel cell.
Maybe a compressed air storage system? There are some other
technologies coming around too. I'm a big fan of Thorium nuclear,
which is going to be coming aboard in India, China, maybe France in
the next few years. Working prototypes have been around for decades,
some industries use small versions right now. Much less troublesome
than U or Pu nuclear in every respect, and plenty of fuel for hundreds
of years - until we get Fusion working.

Bruce Jensen

****Hey Blow Job Jensen, STFU! WTF! Big f%cking deal your laptop runs
on "solar". STFU BJ. And your meter runs backwards all day "selling
back into the grid". STFU! We all know one thing for sure, YOU DIDN't
PAY for any of it so shut your pie hole. Yea, I'm sure you are going
to rush right out and buy a gigantic solar panel for your roof and a
wind turbine to supplement it, you @$$ H%LE!

He might not. But I will. And I can run my entire radio operation
on it all. In that sense, his information is useful. Which is why I
asked for him to describe it.

p- Hide quoted text -

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Rod's a funny guy, eh? ;-)


Ya think? Rod's just another guy who can't countenance thinking
that doesn't reflect his own.

It's not like I've not encountered it before.

I'm intrigued by the Thorium nuclear, though. That would seem to
have promise.

But if you can come up with a make of the solar panels you're
using out there, I'd appreciate it.

The solar we can get around here is installed according to local
common practices. The vendors will come out and evaluate what they
believe is your need (and there is frequently a difference between
what you need and what they want you to need) calcuate a 75% limit
of their evaluation, and they'll sell you that capacity. No more.

So, I'm still looking for equipment that will meet my needs,
stand up to the weather, here, and can be installed to my full
demand capacity.

I'd love to get off the grid. If for no other reasons than to
**** them off.

A laff a minute!
cuhulin

On 22/06/2010 5:20 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Jun 21, 11:53 am, "D. Peter wrote:
On 6/21/10 13:42 , rod wrote:





On Jun 21, 9:23 am, wrote:
On Jun 21, 8:08 am, "D. Peter wrote:

On 6/21/10 09:41 , bpnjensen wrote:

My PC runs off solar.

Which equipment are you using to achieve that?

This is at work. Here at work, we have a large array over the parking
lot that supplies a bunch of energy to our complex every day, rain or
shine, and it's prtety efficient. I don't know the manufacturer, but
I could find out. Extra to run back to the grid, too. That meter
turns backwards starting shortly after sunrise and won't quit all day.

Our land use policies encourage solar on every rooftop and parking lot
around. We're looking for ways to subsidize those as much as
possible. I have been given to understand that Alameda County, as an
entity, uses a higher ratio of solar energy than any other County in
the U.S. - but that may have changed. We're trying :-)

At home, my not-too-distant future intent is to get a substantial
solar panel on the rooftop, maybe even a small wind turbine to
augment. We're breezy enough here so that such a system would be
worthwhile. I'd have to think about a storage battery or fuel cell.
Maybe a compressed air storage system? There are some other
technologies coming around too. I'm a big fan of Thorium nuclear,
which is going to be coming aboard in India, China, maybe France in
the next few years. Working prototypes have been around for decades,
some industries use small versions right now. Much less troublesome
than U or Pu nuclear in every respect, and plenty of fuel for hundreds
of years - until we get Fusion working.

Bruce Jensen

****Hey Blow Job Jensen, STFU! WTF! Big f%cking deal your laptop runs
on "solar". STFU BJ. And your meter runs backwards all day "selling
back into the grid". STFU! We all know one thing for sure, YOU DIDN't
PAY for any of it so shut your pie hole. Yea, I'm sure you are going
to rush right out and buy a gigantic solar panel for your roof and a
wind turbine to supplement it, you @$$ H%LE!

He might not. But I will. And I can run my entire radio operation
on it all. In that sense, his information is useful. Which is why I
asked for him to describe it.

p- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Rod's a funny guy, eh? ;-)

Rod is Greggs pal, Nurk.

Krypsis

On 6/21/2010 12:23 PM, bpnjensen wrote:

...until we get Fusion working.


Fusion = combining two Hydrogen atoms to form one Helium atom.

In other words, the "waste product" of a fusion reaction is...helium.

The good news is, lots of power. The bad news is, we will all talk like
Alvin the chipmunk. :-(