West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms, been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?



VegasNightOwl

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

On Jul 30, 12:46*am, "VegasNightOwl"
wrote:
Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms, been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? *One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. *I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?

VegasNightOwl

VNO,

WLW-AM on 700 kHz at 50KW is an example of
how the old Clear Channel AM/MW Radio Stations
are not-so-clear channel and now only have a
'protected' broadcast zone or 750 {Air} MIles.

FCC AM Query = 137 Records for 700 kHz
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...2=&EW=W&size=9

KDKA 1020 kHz
{FCC has 200+ Records for 1020 kHz}

WSM 650 kHz
{FCC has 136+ Records for 650 kHz}

Maybe you need a Remote Desert DXing Spot :
-Note- Do your Scouting and Set-Up during the
Day and come back around Twilight to start your
DXing.
-Tip- Dress for the Desert and being outdoors.
Boots & Hat + Water, etc.

In Nevada find yourself a one of those long gently
sloping valleys that seam to go on forever . . .

Drive far out into the desert, or at lease a few
miles away from anything man-made.

Get on the western-side of the valley with the
down ward slope facing toward the Eastern Sky.

Run an Insulated Stranded Wire along the Desert
Floor for 100, 200, 500 or 1000 Feet; usually the
longer the better. Point this Wire toward :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.

Put a 4-Foot Ground Rod at the far-eastern-end
and Strip an Inch or two of the Insulation from the
End and Attach the Wire to the Ground Rod using
a Clamp.

-Alternative- Use a 1-Watt Resistor between the
end for the Wire and the Ground Rod : 220 Ohm;
330 Ohm; 470 Ohm; 620 Ohm; 750 Ohm; and
910 Ohm. Pick and choose a Resistor to see
what works best for you with this Antenna at
your location. -OR- Don't connect the Wire to
the Ground Rod and see what you hear.

Take a 5-Gallon Jeep Can full of Water and Soak*
the Ground for about a foot or two around the
Ground Rod; use all of the Water.
* Do this to the Ground each time you use
the Antenna for the Night.

At the near-western-end of the Wire Strip back
the Insulation and connect to your AM Radio
or your Car's Whip Antenna.

It is Import to "Mark" this Near-Western-End
Location very well so that you can Find "It" in
the Twilight when you come back : Painted
Stake, Reflectors, Piled Rocks; all three.

Beverage On Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://www.am-dx.com/antenna_overview.htm
-and- http://www.qsl.net/wb5ude/bog/

hope this helps - iane ~ RHF

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

On Jul 30, 3:46*am, "VegasNightOwl"
wrote:
Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms, been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? *One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. *I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?

VegasNightOwl

I am on the East Coast, and have the same problem in reverse.

I heard KSL once while parked at the beach in Florida, otherwise I
have heard nothing West of Nebraska.
73
Dan AI8O

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

On Jul 30, 12:23*pm, dave wrote:
- - VegasNightOwl wrote:
- - Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies
- - in general terms, been able to copy any east coast
- - powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
- - etc.? *

One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. *I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

- - By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?

Yes FM IBOC Radio Stations are On-the-Air and
I just heard an AD for IBOC "Double Your Radio
Stations For Free" last night on KUSP 89.7 [NPR]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KUSP


VegasNightOwl

When I was a kid in Phoenix the Class As had the whole country to
themselves. *I could get WBZ, WLS, KDKA, WSM, KWKH, WHO, etc. just fine..
* The FCC decided to destroy AM radio at night about 20 years ago.

Most Radio Advertising is Local; and your Local
Congressman has seen that the FCC understands
that Economic Reality of US Business.

- You should be able to get KOA 850, KSL 1150 and KOKC 1520.

None of which is on the "East Coast" and the Target
AM/MW Radio Stations that he listed.

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

VegasNightOwl wrote:
Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms, been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. I seem to be limited now with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?



VegasNightOwl





When I was a kid in Phoenix the Class As had the whole country to
themselves. I could get WBZ, WLS, KDKA, WSM, KWKH, WHO, etc. just fine.
The FCC decided to destroy AM radio at night about 20 years ago.

You should be able to get KOA 850, KSL 1150 and KOKC 1520.

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

RHF wrote:


-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.


A map? Are you sure? Unless you have a great circle map centered at
your receive site you'll have better luck with a globe and a string.

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

On Jul 30, 12:31*pm, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.

A map? *Are you sure? *Unless you have a great circle map centered at
your receive site you'll have better luck with a globe and a string.

The "East Coast" and the Target AM/MW Radio
Stations that he listed are around 2200 Air Miles
from Las Vegas, NV.

For a 500 Foot BOG Antenna from Las Vegas, NV
these general headings :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shoot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}
Will get you 'close enough' {In-the-Zone} to Receive
the Target Area/City/States

Beverage-On-the-Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4fc3323dde7474
The Beam-Width {Best Receiving Angle}
is in the general direction of the Far-End
and is around 60~90 Degrees.

~ RHF

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

RHF wrote:


Most Radio Advertising is Local; and your Local
Congressman has seen that the FCC understands
that Economic Reality of US Business.

- You should be able to get KOA 850, KSL 1150 and KOKC 1520.

None of which is on the "East Coast" and the Target
AM/MW Radio Stations that he listed.
.

Radio is about serving the public, and making a little money on the
side. You cannot do good radio if all you care about is maximizing
profits. Companies shouldn't be allowed to own more than 12 stations.

Rural Americans deserve choice too. George Noory every 10 KHz is not
choice.

Great Circle Mapper (free!)
 

RHF wrote:
On Jul 30, 12:31 pm, wrote:
RHF wrote:

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.

A map? Are you sure? Unless you have a great circle map centered at
your receive site you'll have better luck with a globe and a string.

The "East Coast" and the Target AM/MW Radio
Stations that he listed are around 2200 Air Miles
from Las Vegas, NV.

For a 500 Foot BOG Antenna from Las Vegas, NV
these general headings :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shoot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}
Will get you 'close enough' {In-the-Zone} to Receive
the Target Area/City/States

Beverage-On-the-Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4fc3323dde7474
The Beam-Width {Best Receiving Angle}
is in the general direction of the Far-End
and is around 60~90 Degrees.

~ RHF
.

Atlanta is 86.5 degrees N-S relative to Las Vegas

http://www.gcmap.com/dist?P=LAS-ATL

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Jul 30, 12:46 am, "VegasNightOwl"
wrote:
Has anybody on the west coast, west of of the Rockies in general terms,
been
able to copy any east coast powerhouse BCB's stations like WLW, KDKA, WSM,
etc.? One time a few years ago I copied WLW on the car radio at 11PM,
caught the ID and the program after the news. I seem to be limited now
with
reception from the east as I'm copying more Spanish speaking stations,
either from Mexico or U.S. based stations.

By the way, is IBOC still around or did it finally die off?

VegasNightOwl

VNO,

WLW-AM on 700 kHz at 50KW is an example of
how the old Clear Channel AM/MW Radio Stations
are not-so-clear channel and now only have a
'protected' broadcast zone or 750 {Air} MIles.

FCC AM Query = 137 Records for 700 kHz
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state...2=&EW=W&size=9

KDKA 1020 kHz
{FCC has 200+ Records for 1020 kHz}

WSM 650 kHz
{FCC has 136+ Records for 650 kHz}

Maybe you need a Remote Desert DXing Spot :
-Note- Do your Scouting and Set-Up during the
Day and come back around Twilight to start your
DXing.
-Tip- Dress for the Desert and being outdoors.
Boots & Hat + Water, etc.

In Nevada find yourself a one of those long gently
sloping valleys that seam to go on forever . . .

Drive far out into the desert, or at lease a few
miles away from anything man-made.

Get on the western-side of the valley with the
down ward slope facing toward the Eastern Sky.

Run an Insulated Stranded Wire along the Desert
Floor for 100, 200, 500 or 1000 Feet; usually the
longer the better. Point this Wire toward :
CHI ~ 70*
NYC ~ 80*
Shot-the-Middle for Due East @ 90*
ATL ~ 100*
MIA ~ 120*
{your choice}

-Tip- Use a Map and Compass to figure where
you want your Wire to run to hit your Target
Area {City/State} of Reception.

Put a 4-Foot Ground Rod at the far-eastern-end
and Strip an Inch or two of the Insulation from the
End and Attach the Wire to the Ground Rod using
a Clamp.

-Alternative- Use a 1-Watt Resistor between the
end for the Wire and the Ground Rod : 220 Ohm;
330 Ohm; 470 Ohm; 620 Ohm; 750 Ohm; and
910 Ohm. Pick and choose a Resistor to see
what works best for you with this Antenna at
your location. -OR- Don't connect the Wire to
the Ground Rod and see what you hear.

Take a 5-Gallon Jeep Can full of Water and Soak*
the Ground for about a foot or two around the
Ground Rod; use all of the Water.
* Do this to the Ground each time you use
the Antenna for the Night.

At the near-western-end of the Wire Strip back
the Insulation and connect to your AM Radio
or your Car's Whip Antenna.

It is Import to "Mark" this Near-Western-End
Location very well so that you can Find "It" in
the Twilight when you come back : Painted
Stake, Reflectors, Piled Rocks; all three.

Beverage On Ground [BOG] Antenna
http://www.am-dx.com/antenna_overview.htm
-and- http://www.qsl.net/wb5ude/bog/

hope this helps - iane ~ RHF

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dave wrote:

RHF wrote:


Most Radio Advertising is Local; and your Local
Congressman has seen that the FCC understands
that Economic Reality of US Business.

- You should be able to get KOA 850, KSL 1150 and KOKC 1520.

None of which is on the "East Coast" and the Target
AM/MW Radio Stations that he listed.
.

Radio is about serving the public, and making a little money on the
side. You cannot do good radio if all you care about is maximizing
profits. Companies shouldn't be allowed to own more than 12 stations.

Rural Americans deserve choice too. George Noory every 10 KHz is not
choice.

Post the log of George Noory 'every 10 kHz'.

I've not heard that myself.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




I thought the concentration of stations carrying C2C was a bit to high.
However, one night I tuned the entire AM BCB, 530 to 1710 and copied 9
stations carrying C2C. That works out to "every 131 kHz". I'm sure others
have different results to to location, antennas, etc.


VegasNightOwl

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

VegasNightOwl wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dave wrote:

RHF wrote:


Most Radio Advertising is Local; and your Local
Congressman has seen that the FCC understands
that Economic Reality of US Business.

- You should be able to get KOA 850, KSL 1150 and KOKC 1520.

None of which is on the "East Coast" and the Target
AM/MW Radio Stations that he listed.
.

Radio is about serving the public, and making a little money on the
side. You cannot do good radio if all you care about is maximizing
profits. Companies shouldn't be allowed to own more than 12 stations.

Rural Americans deserve choice too. George Noory every 10 KHz is not
choice.

Post the log of George Noory 'every 10 kHz'.

I've not heard that myself.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



I thought the concentration of stations carrying C2C was a bit to high.
However, one night I tuned the entire AM BCB, 530 to 1710 and copied 9
stations carrying C2C. That works out to "every 131 kHz". I'm sure others
have different results to to location, antennas, etc.

One must remember that Rickmers doesn't really listen, he just watches a screen
for his 'DX'.

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

VegasNightOwl wrote:

RHF,

Thanks for the antenna tips. Never tried the BOG, but seems interesting. I
was thinking of keeping it simple with a tunable loop antenna which would be
rotatable so I could notch out any BCB's that could interfere with the
reception.


VegasNightOwl



I can get KXNT and KDWN every night.

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
VegasNightOwl wrote:

RHF,

Thanks for the antenna tips. Never tried the BOG, but seems interesting.
I
was thinking of keeping it simple with a tunable loop antenna which would
be
rotatable so I could notch out any BCB's that could interfere with the
reception.


VegasNightOwl



I can get KXNT and KDWN every night.


I think both KDWN and KXNT are directional at night. Where are you located?



VegasNightOwl

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

On Jul 31, 6:48*am, "VegasNightOwl"
wrote:


[...]



Thanks for the antenna tips. *Never tried the BOG, but seems interesting. *I
was thinking of keeping it simple with a tunable loop antenna which would be
rotatable so I could notch out any BCB's that could interfere with the
reception.

VegasNightOwl


A loop is probably the easiest way to hear more stations and it's not
limited to one fixed direction. Keep in mind that many stations use
directional antennas that, although you may think they're an easy
catch for the distance, may prevent you from hearing them.

Here in OH I still occasionally hear KFI-640, KOA-850, KNX-1070, and
some others. Cross-continent DX was definitely much easier years ago.

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

VegasNightOwl wrote:
wrote in message
. ..
VegasNightOwl wrote:

RHF,

Thanks for the antenna tips. Never tried the BOG, but seems interesting.
I
was thinking of keeping it simple with a tunable loop antenna which would
be
rotatable so I could notch out any BCB's that could interfere with the
reception.


VegasNightOwl



I can get KXNT and KDWN every night.


I think both KDWN and KXNT are directional at night. Where are you located?



VegasNightOwl



Between L. A. and Palmdale.

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
VegasNightOwl wrote:
wrote in message
. ..
VegasNightOwl wrote:

RHF,

Thanks for the antenna tips. Never tried the BOG, but seems
interesting.
I
was thinking of keeping it simple with a tunable loop antenna which
would
be
rotatable so I could notch out any BCB's that could interfere with the
reception.


VegasNightOwl



I can get KXNT and KDWN every night.


I think both KDWN and KXNT are directional at night. Where are you
located?



VegasNightOwl



Between L. A. and Palmdale.


If I recall correctly, their night time pattern is to the west, to protect
the channel(s) shared by others to the east. So copying them at your
location shouldn't be much of a problem.


VegasNightOwl

West Coast reception of 10 Watt Europeans
 

dave wrote:

Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 7/31/2010 6:57 AM, dxAce wrote:

One must remember that Rickmers doesn't really listen, he just watches
a screen
for his 'DX'.

So, if you hear it with your ears, it's DX. If you see it with your
eyes, it's not DX?

Maybe you'd better tell the ARRL that all those DXCC certificates they
issued for RTTY/PSK31 are meaningless.

Who'd a thunk it?

...but thanks for the heads-up. ;-)

It just shows how hopelessly old fashioned Ace is.

Old fashioned is good. I have some of the finest receivers ever built here.

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

On Jul 31, 6:25*am, dave wrote:
VegasNightOwl wrote:
RHF,

Thanks for the antenna tips. *Never tried the BOG, but seems interesting. *I
was thinking of keeping it simple with a tunable loop antenna which would be
rotatable so I could notch out any BCB's that could interfere with the
reception.

VegasNightOwl

- I can get KXNT and KDWN every night.

Dave both are in Las Vegas, NV and only
about 200 Air Miles away from you in SoCal

Here KXNT-AM on 840 kHz is blocked
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...7&y=2&sr=Y&s=C
by KMPH in Modesto, CA {Oakdale}
which is only about 30 Air Miles away.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...l=KMPH&x=0&y=0

But KDWN-AM is strong here on 720 kHz
just about every night.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...l=KDWN&x=0&y=0
as is KKOH-AM on 780 kHz from Reno, NV
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...l=KKOH&x=0&y=0

DX by waterfall: you'll hear more
 

dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:



You're certainly on the cutting edge of being a real 'Tard Boy.

One thing is certain Dave, you'd not know real radio, even if a Collins KW-1
made its way up your ass and spent the winter.


The first job I had in radio was running an all Collins 5 KW station in
my hometown. Collins transmitter, Collins board, Collins limiter,
Collins turntables, etc. That would be 1964.

Again, AM radio. You can receive it on dental work.

Get with it Dave, that's the miracle of AM radio.

DX by waterfall: you'll hear more
 

dxAce wrote:



You're certainly on the cutting edge of being a real 'Tard Boy.

One thing is certain Dave, you'd not know real radio, even if a Collins KW-1
made its way up your ass and spent the winter.


The first job I had in radio was running an all Collins 5 KW station in
my hometown. Collins transmitter, Collins board, Collins limiter,
Collins turntables, etc. That would be 1964.

Again, AM radio. You can receive it on dental work.

DX by waterfall: you'll hear more
 

On Aug 1, 7:47*am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 31, 7:22 am, Joe from *wrote:

Yeah - It's called Radio.
-wrt- AM&FM Radio DXing

- If you see it with your eyes, it's not DX?

Yeah - It's called TV.
-wrt- TV Station DXing

http://www.w8dc.org/grr_tech_corner/psk31.htm

- If you want to be on the cutting edge of hardware
- you have to move beyond 50 thousand Watt AM radio.

"be 'on' the cutting edge of hardware" is a ride on
the Razor's Edge that I don't care to take.

Dave - AM/MW DXing is just that, simply listening
to the Radio and enjoying yourself as many have
done for almost a 100 Years. ~ RHF
* You & Time
** The AM/MW Radio
*** The AM/MW Antenna
**** The AM/MW Radio Station

DX by waterfall: you'll hear more
 

On Aug 1, 12:38*pm, dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:

You're certainly on the cutting edge of being a real 'Tard Boy.

One thing is certain Dave, you'd not know real radio, even if a Collins KW-1
made its way up your ass and spent the winter.

The first job I had in radio was running an all Collins 5 KW station in
my hometown. *Collins transmitter, Collins board, Collins limiter,
Collins turntables, etc. *That would be 1964.

- Again, AM radio. You can receive it on dental work.

Dave - Get a better Dentist ;;-}} ~ RHF

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
VegasNightOwl wrote:


I guess the 9 times I copied it wasn't too bad considering it was a car
radio driving home. I'm sure with a better setup, many more could be
copied.


VegasNightOwl


It's nothing compared to "Morning Edition" on the FM. Pretty much
wall-to-wall from 88.1-91.9


Or "All Things Considered" in the afternoon. NPR has a very high presence
in the "educational channels" of the FM band. Since it is cheap for the
stations to carry them and it's a "public service", why not.


VegasNightOwl

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

Build some Crystal Radios.
http://www.hobbytech.com/crystalradio/crystalradio.htm
cuhulin

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

VegasNightOwl wrote:
wrote in message
. ..
VegasNightOwl wrote:


I guess the 9 times I copied it wasn't too bad considering it was a car
radio driving home. I'm sure with a better setup, many more could be
copied.


VegasNightOwl


It's nothing compared to "Morning Edition" on the FM. Pretty much
wall-to-wall from 88.1-91.9


Or "All Things Considered" in the afternoon. NPR has a very high presence
in the "educational channels" of the FM band. Since it is cheap for the
stations to carry them and it's a "public service", why not.


VegasNightOwl




NPR is not cheap if you carry the news magazines. Well into 5 figures
at least.

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

CHP Patrol Car Radio History
http://www.wb6nvh.com/chpradio.htm

CHIPS.

I have three old Motorola patrol car radios.I bought them at the
Goodwill store about fifteen years ago.
cuhulin

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
VegasNightOwl wrote:
wrote in message
. ..
VegasNightOwl wrote:


I guess the 9 times I copied it wasn't too bad considering it was a car
radio driving home. I'm sure with a better setup, many more could be
copied.


VegasNightOwl


It's nothing compared to "Morning Edition" on the FM. Pretty much
wall-to-wall from 88.1-91.9


Or "All Things Considered" in the afternoon. NPR has a very high
presence
in the "educational channels" of the FM band. Since it is cheap for the
stations to carry them and it's a "public service", why not.


VegasNightOwl




NPR is not cheap if you carry the news magazines. Well into 5 figures at
least.




None of the Public Broadcasting System publications or DVD's are cheap.
Namely to cover publication costs and whatever is left over becomes a
"donation". However, programming as a whole is fairly cheap compared to
commercial broadcasts. That's what I was trying to say.


VegasNightOwl

Wondering About Real "Fairness" on the AM & FM Radio Bands for All
 

On Aug 2, 5:40*am, dave wrote:
VegasNightOwl wrote:

I guess the 9 times I copied it wasn't too bad considering it was a car
radio driving home. *I'm sure with a better setup, many more could be
copied.

VegasNightOwl

- It's nothing compared to "Morning Edition" on the
- FM. Pretty much wall-to-wall from 88.1-91.9

Dave,

Yes the almost complete and total Liberal Monopoly
of so-called Pubic {Non-Profit} Radio Stations and
NPR is well known.

NPR - Oh the Silence of the Conservatives !

Note - The Real Reason that Air America Radio FAILED
is that Liberals ans Progressives already have three-times
[3X]** as Radio Stations broadcasting the the Left-Wing
Talikng Points as Rush and the Next top 20 Right-Wing
Conservative Talkers combined.
** That Is Not Fairness That's Liberal Slant & Bias [.]

What If the so-called Fairness Doctrine* was applied
to NPR and the Pubic {Non-Profit} Radio Stations and
each had to Air One Hours of The Top 21 Conservative
Talkers a Week @ 3-Hours a Day and 7-Days a Week
* As Liberals want to do to Conservative Talk AM Radio.

Giving less-than Equal Time {~12.5%}* for Truly All
American Conservative Voices on NPR and Pubic
{Non-Profit} Radio Stations.
* While Liberals want Equal Time [50/50] for every Hour
of Conservative Talk Radio.

What If Local Committees* from the Minority {Right}
Conservative Community where empowered to challenge
the Public Service to the Minority Conservative Radio
Listeners of each and every NPR and Pubic {Non-Profit}
Radio Stations ? ? ?
* As Liberals want to do to Conservative Talk AM Radio.

Oops "The Slant" of NPR and Pubic {Non-Profit} Radio Stations

Oops "The Bias" of NPR and Pubic {Non-Profit} Radio Stations

Oops "The Agenda" of NPR and Pubic {Non-Profit} Radio Stations

Oops "The Un-Fairness" of NPR and Pubic {Non-Profit} Radio Stations

wondering about real 'f a i r n e s s' on both
the am & fm radio bands for all ~ RHF

National Public Radio [NPR] Programming : It Goes To Bias . . .
 

On Aug 2, 12:28*pm, "VegasNightOwl"
wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

. ..

VegasNightOwl wrote:

I guess the 9 times I copied it wasn't too bad considering it was a car
radio driving home. *I'm sure with a better setup, many more could be
copied.

VegasNightOwl

- - It's nothing compared to "Morning Edition" on the FM.
- - Pretty much wall-to-wall from 88.1-91.9

Wondering About Real "Fairness" on the
AM & FM Radio Bands for All . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...49b6e6a8fc8cbb

- Or "All Things Considered" in the afternoon.
-*NPR has a very high presence in the
- "educational channels" of the FM band.
- Since it is cheap for the stations to carry them
- and it's a "public service", why not.
-
- VegasNightOwl

VNO,

Cause it is Liberal Progressive Propaganda without
an honest Conservative Voice to bring 'balance' to
the Topics and View Points presented as News and
Information {Liberal Opinion}.

The so-called "Educational Channels" are in-fact
Liberal Progressive Indoctrination Lesions paid for
indirctly by all the US Tax Payers which cheat the
Ring-Wing Conservative US Citizens of an Equal
Voice in what is being presented as the Whole
Truth when selected 'half-truths' are being preached
at NPR Listeners as the only facts worth considering.

end of rant about npr's liberal bias* ~ RHF
* some would even go as far to say that
npr preaches disrespect and 'hate' against
'the-right-wing and conservatives.

NPR Subsidizing the Liberal Progressive Agenda at the Expense of Allthe US Tax Payers
 

On Aug 2, 6:12*pm, dave wrote:
VegasNightOwl wrote:
*wrote in message
...
VegasNightOwl wrote:

I guess the 9 times I copied it wasn't too bad considering it was a car
radio driving home. *I'm sure with a better setup, many more could be
copied.

VegasNightOwl

It's nothing compared to "Morning Edition" on the FM. Pretty much
wall-to-wall from 88.1-91.9

Or "All Things Considered" in the afternoon. *NPR has a very high presence
in the "educational channels" of the FM band. *Since it is cheap for the
stations to carry them and it's a "public service", why not.

VegasNightOwl

- NPR is not cheap if you carry the news magazines.
-*Well into 5 figures at least.

NPR and the Pubic {Non-Profit} Radio Stations
is Fooly Funded by indirect subsidies form all
the US Tax Payers :
* US Federal Grants
* US "Charitable" Foundation Grants
* Deductible Matching Donations from US Business
* Deductible Donations from Individuals {US Citizens}
They all Grant and Donate to Pay Lower Taxes and
You Pay More/Higher Taxes to make-up the difference.

NPR Subsidizing the Liberal Progressive Agenda
at the US Tax Payer's Expense ~ RHF

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

On Aug 1, 7:34*am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 30, 1:06 pm, *wrote:

- - - Rural Americans deserve choice too.

- - Dave ? Rural ? All Americans Need 'Choice'

- Inside the RF cloud of a big city there is plenty
- of choice. *40 miles away it can be like Siberia.

We call it Sonora, CA . . . {Twain Harte}

Living in the Land of the Blinking Blue Light

beyond the 'rf' fringe ~ RHF

West Coast reception of East Coast BCB's
 

VegasNightOwl wrote:



None of the Public Broadcasting System publications or DVD's are cheap.
Namely to cover publication costs and whatever is left over becomes a
"donation". However, programming as a whole is fairly cheap compared to
commercial broadcasts. That's what I was trying to say.


VegasNightOwl

Most commercial network stuff is sustained by national ads and costs the
stations nothing.

National Public Radio [NPR] Programming : It Goes To Bias . . .
 

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Aug 2, 12:28 pm, "VegasNightOwl"
wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

. ..

VegasNightOwl wrote:

I guess the 9 times I copied it wasn't too bad considering it was a car
radio driving home. I'm sure with a better setup, many more could be
copied.

VegasNightOwl

- - It's nothing compared to "Morning Edition" on the FM.
- - Pretty much wall-to-wall from 88.1-91.9

Wondering About Real "Fairness" on the
AM & FM Radio Bands for All . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...49b6e6a8fc8cbb

- Or "All Things Considered" in the afternoon.
- NPR has a very high presence in the
- "educational channels" of the FM band.
- Since it is cheap for the stations to carry them
- and it's a "public service", why not.
-
- VegasNightOwl

VNO,

Cause it is Liberal Progressive Propaganda without
an honest Conservative Voice to bring 'balance' to
the Topics and View Points presented as News and
Information {Liberal Opinion}.

The so-called "Educational Channels" are in-fact
Liberal Progressive Indoctrination Lesions paid for
indirctly by all the US Tax Payers which cheat the
Ring-Wing Conservative US Citizens of an Equal
Voice in what is being presented as the Whole
Truth when selected 'half-truths' are being preached
at NPR Listeners as the only facts worth considering.

end of rant about npr's liberal bias* ~ RHF
* some would even go as far to say that
npr preaches disrespect and 'hate' against
'the-right-wing and conservatives.

National Public Radio [NPR] Programming : It Goes To Bias . . .
 

On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 02:33:34 -0700, RHF wrote:

On Aug 2, 12:28Â*pm, "VegasNightOwl" wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

. ..

VegasNightOwl wrote:

I guess the 9 times I copied it wasn't too bad considering it was a
car radio driving home. Â*I'm sure with a better setup, many more
could be copied.

VegasNightOwl

- - It's nothing compared to "Morning Edition" on the FM. - - Pretty
much wall-to-wall from 88.1-91.9

Wondering About Real "Fairness" on the AM & FM Radio Bands for All . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...49b6e6a8fc8cbb

- Or "All Things Considered" in the afternoon. -Â*NPR has a very high
presence in the - "educational channels" of the FM band. - Since it is
cheap for the stations to carry them - and it's a "public service", why
not. -
- VegasNightOwl

VNO,

Cause it is Liberal Progressive Propaganda without an honest
Conservative Voice to bring 'balance' to the Topics and View Points
presented as News and Information {Liberal Opinion}.

The so-called "Educational Channels" are in-fact Liberal Progressive
Indoctrination Lesions paid for indirctly by all the US Tax Payers which
cheat the Ring-Wing Conservative US Citizens of an Equal Voice in what
is being presented as the Whole Truth when selected 'half-truths' are
being preached at NPR Listeners as the only facts worth considering.

end of rant about npr's liberal bias* ~ RHF * some would even go as far
to say that npr preaches disrespect and 'hate' against 'the-right-wing
and conservatives.
.
.

NPR is run by rich conservatives and funded by large republican
corporations. Only a small part is public funding. They just don't
follow the Stalin propaganda of faux and limpballs crazy foolish mantra
like you do.

Rupert thanks you for your support

NPR Subsidizing the Liberal Progressive Agenda at the Expense ofAll the US Tax Payers
 

On Aug 3, 4:53*am, Bob Dobbs wrote:
- - RHF wrote:
- - NPR Subsidizing the Liberal Progressive Agenda
- - t the US Tax Payer's Expense ~ RHF

- Money well spent, eh?
- Far better than foolish eternal war craft over oil.
-
- --
-
- Operator Bob
- Echo Charlie 42

Life in the Vacuum of Global Economics . . .
GONE WILD !

National Public Radio [NPR] Programming : It Goes To Bias . . .
 

On Aug 3, 4:51*am, Bob Dobbs wrote:
RHF wrote:
* some would even go as far to say that
npr preaches disrespect and 'hate' against
'the-right-wing and conservatives.

No preaching needed, the attitudes and practices of those right wing
conservatives earns all the hate and disrespect they get.

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

BD Preach That Liberal Hate !
Hate the Right Wing
Hate the Conservatives
Hate the GOP
Hate the Tea Baggers
Just Hate Anyone You Don't Agree With . . .

National Public Radio [NPR] Programming : It Goes To Bias . . .
 

On Aug 3, 12:47*pm, dave wrote:
VegasNightOwl wrote:

How true. *That's why I never listen to them.

- Obviously. If you did,
- you'd realize what RHF said was bunk.
-*I think you have NPR confused with Pacifica.

Dave one could not 'confuse' NPR with Pacifica

I am NPR and . . .

Dave 'you' are Pacifica . . .

National Public Radio [NPR] Programming : It Goes To Bias . . .
 

On Aug 3, 12:30*pm, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 8/3/10 13:39 , VegasNightOwl wrote:



*wrote in message
....
On Aug 2, 12:28 pm,
wrote:
*wrote in message

m...

VegasNightOwl wrote:

I guess the 9 times I copied it wasn't too bad considering it was a car
radio driving home. I'm sure with a better setup, many more could be
copied.

VegasNightOwl

- - It's nothing compared to "Morning Edition" on the FM.
- - Pretty much wall-to-wall from 88.1-91.9

Wondering About Real "Fairness" on the
AM& *FM Radio Bands for All . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...49b6e6a8fc8cbb

- Or "All Things Considered" in the afternoon.
- NPR has a very high presence in the
- "educational channels" of the FM band.
- Since it is cheap for the stations to carry them
- and it's a "public service", why not.
-
- VegasNightOwl

VNO,

Cause it is Liberal Progressive Propaganda without
an honest Conservative Voice to bring 'balance' to
the Topics and View Points presented as News and
Information {Liberal Opinion}.

The so-called "Educational Channels" are in-fact
Liberal Progressive Indoctrination Lesions paid for
indirctly by all the US Tax Payers which cheat the
Ring-Wing Conservative US Citizens of an Equal
Voice in what is being presented as the Whole
Truth when selected 'half-truths' are being preached
at NPR Listeners as the only facts worth considering.

end of rant about npr's liberal bias* ~ RHF
* some would even go as far to say that
npr preaches disrespect and 'hate' against
'the-right-wing and conservatives.
* .
* .

How true. *That's why I never listen to them.

-*You can't defeat an opponent in the arena
- of ideas if don't listen to what they're saying.

Now That Is True !

National Public Radio [NPR] Programming : It Goes To Bias . . .
 

On Aug 3, 12:52*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
- - On Aug 3, 2:33*am, RHF wrote:
- - honest Conservative Voice

- In this day and age, an oxymoron.

As 'i' say : It Goes To Bias . . .