Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
 

On Aug 1, 9:36*pm, sillapond wrote:
On 08/01/2010 05:23 PM, Christopher Helms wrote:

I believe the top 5% actually control something like 99% of the
nation's wealth,

But what YOU believe is INSANE!

Insane but true.

Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
 

On Aug 1, 5:18*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 12:23:18 -0700, sillapond wrote:
Facts are dependent on who interprets them.

Really?

Yes.

- It is a "fact" that ships disappear over the horizon

Actually that is NOT a 'fact' : That is a 'perception'.

The Ship 'exists' before the Horizon Transition Event
and the Ship still 'exists' after it.

The Fact is {Reality} that : We Can Not See Over the Horizon.

-note- To the people on the Ship it is 'we' {back-there}
who do the Disappearing Act.

Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
 

On Aug 1, 5:12*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung

wrote:
We do, however, learn from history, that when the wealth and corporate
class, coupled with LESS government, causes major social and economic
disasters.

You are wrong. *DEAD WRONG!

Most everyone who can't take the truth---say history is wrong

Don't take my word for it---any competent history book on America will
tell you of the misery, woe, sickness, exploitation of the period from
1850-1930's---.

Or did you think those thousands who marched against our government,
the marches in support of Communism happened because thousands didn't
have anything to do those years?

Or--how about the tens of thousands marching in the South in the 60's,
or the millions that camped out on the Capital Mall calling attention
to massive hunger and homelessness in the early 60's

- Yep, you uneducated idiots are why
- someone like us NEEDS to be around
- to stop your greed, racism, and self-entitlement.

? someone like us ?

So then, why aren't you posting from Cuba
or North Korea . . .

Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
 

On Aug 1, 5:24*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:54:54 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung



wrote:
On Jul 31, 9:15*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:57:17 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung

wrote:
Mr. Dionne’s view of “undertaxed” is odd. *The IRS reports that in
2007 (the latest year for which data are available) the top 1 percent
of taxpayers in the U.S. paid 40.4 percent of the total income taxes
collected by Uncle Sam.

However, they own 90% of all the wealth. *

Also, their contributions stop at less than 1% of their total income
to SS, and the tax code makes it possible for them to pay nearly
nothing.

They contribute nothing of value to the Nation, provide no military
service, can buy their way out of most everything, afford anything

This income disparity of which you point to is not a result of
Capitalism.

- It is. *Money is generated by market forces----and IF unregulated
and
- unrestricted will ONLY do what is best for a return of
- profit----INDEPENDENT of what society requires.

-so- "Money is generated by market forces"

In a Communist Society ruled by a Cadre of {Elite}
Communist Leaders : What Are The Market Forces ?

On the contrary! *It is the result of ever increasing government
interference in free market capitalism.

The history of "less government" is STANDARD reading for anyone above
the age of 12---in High schools (or used to be) and certainly in
college dealing with turn of the 20th century society in American.

Various books have been written about the squalor, exploitation,
misery, filth, disease, and outright abuse of people by the business
and wealth class in the early part of the 20th century (after 1860
orso)

If this interference is allowed to continue, and God forbid increase,
it will result in far more disastrous consequences which are not so
far off on the economic horizon.

Once again--read history

Detroit and Chicago are well on this path.

Major Urban centers do not fare well when Conservative/loonytarian
government rears it's ugly head. *That's a historical fact.

Here is what is happening thanks to an ever increasing Socialist Creep
of government influence and regulations of the U.S. economy.

You need to look up the difference between "socialism" and "social
policy" *Both use the same word---in different meanings.

I post the following for study as an example of the increasing rate of
Socialism's detrimental creep into our economy.

I post laughter at your loony crap

A capitalist marketplace is a sort of Darwinian organism, evolved
through natural selection as the fittest way to satisfy our needs.

CHristsakes

Do you know how many years social darwinism has been discredited as a
theory?

Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
 

On Aug 1, 11:41*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Aug 1, 9:36*pm, sillapond wrote:

On 08/01/2010 05:23 PM, Christopher Helms wrote:

- - - I believe the top 5% actually control something
- - - like 99% of the nation's wealth,

- - But what YOU believe is INSANE!

- Insane but true.

So the Truth can cause Insanity.

So when we say "The Truth Will Set You Free"
? Are We Saying : The Freedom to go Insane . . .

* - = Insane Rant On = - *
Fool Power to Taxing the Richest of the Rich !
* Leave No Dollar Un-Taxed and then Tax the Taxes
* When the Rich No Longer have any Money :
Then Tax Their Property; Their Children & Families.
* When the Rich No Longer have any Property :
Then Tax Their Food and Water.
* When the Rich No Longer have any Food and
Water : Then Tax the Air that they Breath
YEAH - TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE

i am an 'inverted' 0.01%er* ~ RHF
* why i am so poor my zip code is all 00000s

Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
 

On Aug 1, 7:12*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung

wrote:
We do, however, learn from history, that when the wealth and corporate
class, coupled with LESS government, causes major social and economic
disasters.

You are wrong. *DEAD WRONG!

Most everyone who can't take the truth---say history is wrong

Don't take my word for it---any competent history book on America will
tell you of the misery, woe, sickness, exploitation of the period from
1850-1930's---.

bwaHAHAHA! AND YOU WERE THERE!
WOW! You are not only DEAD WRONG you are STUPID DEAD WRONG.

Only a Public School Teacher graduate from a Public Scool would claim
their
little Red History text books are anything other than propganda lies.
Man, you are truely a lost brainwashed idiot if you beleive this
shiesse.
All you know is how to parrot LIE, LIES and MORE RED PROPAGANDA LIES!
It has become a comedy. Unfortunately for you it all ends in tragedy.


Or did you think those thousands who marched against our government,
the marches in support of Communism happened because thousands didn't
have anything to do those years?

Here we go. Now the true mind of Red Liberal Fascist is revealed.


Or--how about the tens of thousands marching in the South in the 60's,
or the millions that camped out on the Capital Mall calling attention
to massive hunger and homelessness in the early 60's

Uh huh. Who were the organisers of your ignorant student body of
young soft pliable minds?
WHO WERE THESE COMMUNIST PARTY MEMBERS THAT DESTROYED THE YOUTH?
If you know anything about history YOU KNOW MAO TSE DUNG! His
CULTural Revolution!!
I KNOW YOU DO!!!

Yep, you uneducated idiots are why someone like us NEEDS to be around
to stop your greed, racism, and self-entitlement.

Many of the wonderful-sounding ideas that have been tried as
government policies have failed disastrously. Because so few people
bother to study history, often the same ideas and policies have been
tried again, either in another country or in the same country at a
later time-- and with the same disastrous results.

One of the ideas that has proved to be almost impervious to evidence
is the idea that wise and far-sighted people need to take control and
plan economic and social policies so that there will be a rational and
just order, rather than chaos resulting from things being allowed to
take their own course. It sounds so logical and plausible that
demanding hard evidence would seem almost like nit-picking.

In one form or another, this idea goes back at least as far as the
French Revolution in the 18th century. As J.A. Schumpeter later wrote
of that era, "general well-being ought to have been the consequence,"
but "instead we find misery, shame and, at the end of it all, a stream
of blood."

The same could be said of the Bolshevik Revolution and other
revolutions of the 20th century.

The idea that the wise and knowledgeable few need to take control of
the less wise and less knowledgeable many has taken milder forms-- and
repeatedly with bad results as well.

One of the most easily documented examples has been economic central
planning, which was tried in countries around the world at various
times during the 20th century, among people of differing races and
cultures, and under government ranging from democracies to
dictatorships.

The people who ran central planning agencies usually had more advanced
education than the population at large, and probably higher IQs as
well.

The central planners also had far more statistics and other facts at
their disposal than the average person had. Moreover, there were
usually specialized experts such as economists and statisticians on
the staffs of the central planners, and outside consultants were
available when needed. Finally, the central planners had the power of
government behind them, to enforce the plans they created.

It is hardly surprising that conservatives, such as Prime Minister
Margaret Thatcher in Britain and President Ronald Reagan in the United
States, opposed this approach. What is remarkable is that, after a few
decades of experience with central planning in some countries, or a
few generations in others, even communists and socialists began to
repudiate this approach.

As they replaced central planning with more reliance on markets, their
countries' economic growth rate almost invariably increased, often
dramatically. In the largest and most recent examples-- China and
India-- people by the millions have risen above these countries'
official poverty rates, after they freed their economies from many of
their suffocating government controls.

China, where famines have repeatedly ravaged the country, now has a
problem of obesity-- not a good thing in itself, but a big improvement
over famines.

This has implications far beyond economics. Think about it: How was it
even possible that transferring decisions from elites with more
education, intellect, data and power to ordinary people could lead
consistently to demonstrably better results?

One implication is that no one is smart enough to carry out social
engineering, whether in the economy or in other areas where the
results may not always be so easily quantifiable. We learn, not from
our initial brilliance, but from trial and error adjustments to events
as they unfold.

Science tells us that the human brain reaches its maximum potential in
early adulthood. Why then are young adults so seldom capable of doing
what people with more years of experience can do?

Because experience trumps brilliance.

Elites may have more brilliance, but those who make decisions for
society as a whole cannot possibly have as much experience as the
millions of people whose decisions they preempt. The education and
intellects of the elites may lead them to have more sweeping
presumptions, but that just makes them more dangerous to the freedom,
as well as the well-being, of the people as a whole.

http://townhall.com/columnists/Thoma...w_smart_are_we
http://www.tsowell.com

Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
 

On Aug 6, 9:03*pm, Paul Briskette wrote:
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:16:04 -0700, Chas. Chan wrote:
On Aug 1, 7:12*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung

wrote:

(deleted twisted logic rant)



Because experience trumps brilliance.

- Experience DOES tells us that trickle down economics do not work.

Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
 

On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:42:59 -0600, Obiter wrote:

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 05:18:59 -0700 (PDT), RHF
wrote:

FOOL POWER TO THE TAXES !

Yes, we call it "federalism" and is (and will be) the policy or
returning tax revenue BACK to states (people) in a cogent, national,
systematic set of policies.

First - Tax the Rich to Death

Again, bull**** stupidity. NO ONE want's to "tax the rich to death"
OTOH, we don't want billions and billions flowing to ever smaller
numbers of any class to the detriment of an entire society

YEAH - TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE

How do you "tax the rich out of existence"---if their Massive wealth is
only taxed at a rate consistent with their ability to pay?

Second - Tax the Middle Class* to Death

WHich is exactly what conservatives do---to allow the wealth class to
"keep their money"

Third - Tax the Poor*

The poor, under conservativism, are taxed disproportionally more than
the top 10%

PROVING Once Again that Nothing is Certain Except : Taxes & Death {Death
& Taxes}

And moral, ethical, legal, constitutional, and christian

Prez Obama's Hope and Change seams to be morphing into the Hopelessness
of Un-Employment and Chains of More and Higher Taxes resulting in the
Obama Regime's Ever Expanding and Big {All Controlling} Government.

Stupid ****wit

The "raise" in taxes is mostly getting rid of Bush's cuts for the
wealthy

Wasting your time responding to the dip**** Mr. Cut-n-Paste RHF. He can
only respond with the words of other dip****s. faux and limpalls

Most everybody here filters him out

Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
 

On Aug 7, 7:42*am, wrote:
On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 05:18:59 -0700 (PDT), RHF

wrote:
FOOL POWER TO THE TAXES !

Yes, we call it "federalism" and is (and will be) the policy or
returning tax revenue BACK to states (people) in a cogent, national,
systematic set of policies.



First - Tax the Rich to Death

Again, bull**** stupidity. *NO ONE want's to "tax the rich to death"
OTOH, we don't want billions and billions flowing to ever smaller
numbers of any class to the detriment of an entire society

YEAH - TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE

How do you "tax the rich out of existence"---if their Massive wealth
is only taxed at a rate consistent with their ability to pay?

Second - Tax the Middle Class* to Death

WHich is exactly what conservatives do---to allow the wealth class to
"keep their money"



Third - Tax the Poor*

The poor, under conservativism, are taxed disproportionally more than
the top 10%



PROVING Once Again that Nothing is Certain
Except : Taxes & Death {Death & Taxes}

And moral, ethical, legal, constitutional, and christian

Prez Obama's Hope and Change seams to be
morphing into the Hopelessness of Un-Employment
and Chains of More and Higher Taxes resulting in
the Obama Regime's Ever Expanding and Big
{All Controlling} Government.

- Stupid ****wit

Obi ? Stupid ****wit ? { Is that sort of a FATWA
of Hate Speech Attack Language ? }

(OT) : When is Prez Obama Going to Take Responsibility for Being theUS President and Stop Blaming former prez Bush . . .
 

On Aug 7, 7:42*am, wrote:
On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 05:18:59 -0700 (PDT), RHF

wrote:
FOOL POWER TO THE TAXES !

Yes, we call it "federalism" and is (and will be) the policy or
returning tax revenue BACK to states (people) in a cogent, national,
systematic set of policies.



First - Tax the Rich to Death

Again, bull**** stupidity. *NO ONE want's to "tax the rich to death"
OTOH, we don't want billions and billions flowing to ever smaller
numbers of any class to the detriment of an entire society

YEAH - TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE

How do you "tax the rich out of existence"---if their Massive wealth
is only taxed at a rate consistent with their ability to pay?

Second - Tax the Middle Class* to Death

WHich is exactly what conservatives do---to allow the wealth class to
"keep their money"



Third - Tax the Poor*

The poor, under conservativism, are taxed disproportionally more than
the top 10%



PROVING Once Again that Nothing is Certain
Except : Taxes & Death {Death & Taxes}

And moral, ethical, legal, constitutional, and christian

Prez Obama's Hope and Change seams to be
morphing into the Hopelessness of Un-Employment
and Chains of More and Higher Taxes resulting in
the Obama Regime's Ever Expanding and Big
{All Controlling} Government.

Stupid ****wit

The "raise" in taxes is mostly getting rid of Bush's cuts for the
wealthy

One simple Fact Obama [LD] and Pelosi [LD] and
Reid [LD] have controlled the US Congress for Years
and the White House for over a Year . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4ece5199a86a10

"LD" = Liberal Democrats

Prez Obama [LD] - It's Now Your Fault !

Nancy Pelosi [LD] - It's Now Your Fault !

Harry Reid [LD] - It's Now Your Fault !

Obama Change = More and More Wasteful Spending

Obama Change = Higher and Higher Taxes on Living

Obama Hope = Hopelessness of Failed Government

Obama Hope = Higher and Constant Un-employment for all

Obama Hope = Smaller Un-Employment Checks for all

HELLO America - Prez Bush has been out of Office
for a Year and a Half : When is Prez Obama Going
to Take Responsibility for Being the US President
and Stop Blaming former prez Bush . . .

HELLO America - The republicans have not controlled
either of House's of the US Congress since 2007 :
When is Prez Obama Going to Take Responsibility
for Being the US President and Stop Blaming the
Republicans for the Failures of the Democrats . . .
-and- When are Pelosi and Reid Going to Take
Responsibility for Being the Heads of the Houses
of the US Congress and Stop Blaming the Republicans
for the Failures of their own Democrats . . .

OOPS - Even Jay Leno is now making late-nite jokes
about Prez Obama still Blaming former prez Bush . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...64edf9bca744ca

prez obama a sad portrait of failed leadership ~ RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...844035033d4e69