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Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
E.J. Dionne argues that rich Americans are “undertaxed”
(“In American politics, stupidity is the name of the game,” July 29). http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072804529.html He quotes the Congressional Budget Office to explain why: “the gaps in after-tax income between the richest 1 percent of Americans and the middle and poorest fifths of the country more than tripled between 1979 and 2007.” Mr. Dionne’s view of “undertaxed” is odd. The IRS reports that in 2007 (the latest year for which data are available) the top 1 percent of taxpayers in the U.S. paid 40.4 percent of the total income taxes collected by Uncle Sam. This percentage is well above the 24.8 percent of the income-tax burden borne by this group in 1987, the year after the 1986 tax reform. Moreover, the top 1 percent of taxpayers now pay more federal income taxes than do the bottom 95 percent combined!* If taxes are the price we pay for government services – rather than booty to be extracted simply because someone is unusually wealthy – then Mr. Dionne’s conclusion that rich Americans are undertaxed overtaxes credulity. Sincerely, Donald J. Boudreaux http://cafehayek.com/2010/07/undertaxed.html * See the Tax Foundation’s Scott Hodge. http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/24944.html |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Jul 31, 9:15*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:57:17 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote: Mr. Dionne’s view of “undertaxed” is odd. *The IRS reports that in 2007 (the latest year for which data are available) the top 1 percent of taxpayers in the U.S. paid 40.4 percent of the total income taxes collected by Uncle Sam. However, they own 90% of all the wealth. * Also, their contributions stop at less than 1% of their total income to SS, and the tax code makes it possible for them to pay nearly nothing. They contribute nothing of value to the Nation, provide no military service, can buy their way out of most everything, afford anything BINGO. WELL SAID!!!!! |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
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Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Jul 31, 9:15*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:57:17 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote: Mr. Dionne’s view of “undertaxed” is odd. *The IRS reports that in 2007 (the latest year for which data are available) the top 1 percent of taxpayers in the U.S. paid 40.4 percent of the total income taxes collected by Uncle Sam. However, they own 90% of all the wealth. * Also, their contributions stop at less than 1% of their total income to SS, and the tax code makes it possible for them to pay nearly nothing. They contribute nothing of value to the Nation, provide no military service, can buy their way out of most everything, afford anything This income disparity of which you point to is not a result of Capitalism. On the contrary! It is the result of ever increasing government interference in free market capitalism. If this interference is allowed to continue, and God forbid increase, it will result in far more disastrous consequences which are not so far off on the economic horizon. Detroit and Chicago are well on this path. Here is what is happening thanks to an ever increasing Socialist Creep of government influence and regulations of the U.S. economy. I post the following for study as an example of the increasing rate of Socialism's detrimental creep into our economy. As one had recently posted elsewhere with all emphasis mine: "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90...1/6275043.html The Chinese planning system has encountered the same problems of inflexibility and inadequate responsiveness that have emerged in other centrally planned economies [which all have failed]. The basic difficulty has been that it is impossible for planners to foresee all the needs of the economy and to specify adequately the characteristics of planned inputs and products [Mises, Hayek, Friedman- http://mises.org ]. Beginning in 1979 and 1980, the first reforms were introduced on an experimental basis. Nearly all of these policies increased the autonomy and decision-making power of the various economic units and reduced the direct role of central planning. [Uh oh!] In the 1980s, rural China gained the upper hand, and the result was rapid as well as broad-based growth. China’s rural economy took off in the 1980s, led by ‘township and village enterprises’ that were essentially private, only to be ignored in the 1990s by state-led development that focused on urban regions such as Shanghai. The ‘Shanghai miracle’ – as any businessman who has worked there knows – was not the simple triumph of capitalism, but of a stronger and more intrusive (and effective) state. IF ONE WANTS TO UNDERSTAND THE POLICY ORIGINS OF China's [and similiarly the U.S.] GROWING DIVIDE BETWEEN RICH AND POOR, urban and rural, one need look no further. In the 1990s, urban China triumphed. In the 1990s, the Chinese state reversed many of its productive [private capitalist] rural experiments, with long-lasting damage to the economy and society. [China's post-Mao Tse Dung leaders were well aware of the dangers of rural power. That is how, afterall, Mao Tse Dung and Communism came to power]. A WEAK FINANCIAL SECTOR, INCOME DISPARITY, rising illiteracy, productivity slowdowns, and REDUCED PERSONAL INCOME GROWTH are the product of the Socialism with Chinese characteristics [state interference] of the 1990s and beyond. While GDP grew quickly in both decades, THE WELFARE IMPLICATIONS OF GROWTH DIFFERED SUBSTANTIALLY. The single biggest obstacle to sustainable growth and financial stability in China today is its poor political governance [Hello!]. China faces some of its toughest economic challenges and substantial vulnerabilities that require fundamental institutional reforms.[Goodbye 0baMao Tse Dung] When I say “capitalism,” I mean a full, pure, uncontrolled, unregulated laissez-faire capitalism—with a separation of state and economics, in the same way and for the same reasons as the separation of state and church. The best example of Freedom is the full, pure, uncontrolled, unregulated laissez-faire capitalism that was pre-1989 Hong Kong: View "Free To Choose - ORIGINAL 1980 SERIES: Volume 1 - The Power of the Market" http://www.ideachannel.tv/ http://www.freetochoose.net/store/pr...products_id=36 It is no wonder that Communist China was intent on snuffing out Hong Kong laissez-faire capitalism. Capitalism is a social system based on the recognition of individual rights, including property rights, in which all property is privately owned. The recognition of individual rights entails the banishment of physical force from human relationships: basically, rights can be violated only by means of force. In a capitalist society, no man or group may initiate the use of physical force against others. The only function of the government, in such a society, is the task of protecting man’s rights, i.e., the task of protecting him from physical force; the government acts as the agent of man’s right of self-defense, and may use force only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use; thus the government is the means of placing the retaliatory use of force under objective control. A capitalist marketplace is a sort of Darwinian organism, evolved through natural selection as the fittest way to satisfy our needs. It is Human Nature. Itis natural. It is natural to be free - Born Free! And nothing you think or say will ever change that fact. It is normal. Liberal Fascism, Progessivism, Socialism, Communism are abnormal. They are a mental disease. History reeks of the rotting stench from this diseased corpse you love so much: http://www.globalmuseumoncommunism.org http://www.forfreedomssake.com/blog/...-of-communism/ The disease is necrophilia. If you don't suckle on mother nature's Capitalist milk you're Dead in Pyongyang. |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 1, 12:49*pm, wrote:
Who said," the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"? Well, then you should be thankful we don't have socialism--- We do, however, learn from history, that when the wealth and corporate class, coupled with LESS government, causes major social and economic disasters. You are wrong. DEAD WRONG! |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 1, 1:56Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
On Aug 1, 12:49Â*pm, wrote: Who said," the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"? Well, then you should be thankful we don't have socialism--- We do, however, learn from history, that when the wealth and corporate class, coupled with LESS government, causes major social and economic disasters. You are wrong. Â*DEAD WRONG! It is a fact that governement officials are influenced by corporate wealth and thus increase regulations which snuffs out competition for this wealth. If unregulated, free-market, laissez-faire capitalism were allowed to prosper, without any government interference, there would no way, no how, never be what you describe as "social and economic disasters". Certainly no where near as disasterous as the result of government interference. |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
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Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
On Aug 1, 12:49 pm, wrote: Well, then you should be thankful we don't have socialism--- We do, however, learn from history, that when the wealth and corporate class, coupled with LESS government, causes major social and economic disasters. You are wrong. DEAD WRONG! Why did we used to have bank runs and panics every few years? |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
If unregulated, free-market, laissez-faire capitalism were allowed to prosper, without any government interference, there would no way, no how, never be what you describe as "social and economic disasters". Certainly no where near as disasterous as the result of government interference. So you would have let the banks and insurance companies all fail September 2008? If so you're with me! |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On 08/01/2010 05:23 PM, Christopher Helms wrote:
I believe the top 5% actually control something like 99% of the nation's wealth, But what YOU believe is INSANE! |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 1, 9:36*pm, sillapond wrote:
On 08/01/2010 05:23 PM, Christopher Helms wrote: I believe the top 5% actually control something like 99% of the nation's wealth, But what YOU believe is INSANE! Insane but true. |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 1, 5:18*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 12:23:18 -0700, sillapond wrote: Facts are dependent on who interprets them. Really? Yes. - It is a "fact" that ships disappear over the horizon Actually that is NOT a 'fact' : That is a 'perception'. The Ship 'exists' before the Horizon Transition Event and the Ship still 'exists' after it. The Fact is {Reality} that : We Can Not See Over the Horizon. -note- To the people on the Ship it is 'we' {back-there} who do the Disappearing Act. |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 1, 5:12*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote: We do, however, learn from history, that when the wealth and corporate class, coupled with LESS government, causes major social and economic disasters. You are wrong. *DEAD WRONG! Most everyone who can't take the truth---say history is wrong Don't take my word for it---any competent history book on America will tell you of the misery, woe, sickness, exploitation of the period from 1850-1930's---. Or did you think those thousands who marched against our government, the marches in support of Communism happened because thousands didn't have anything to do those years? Or--how about the tens of thousands marching in the South in the 60's, or the millions that camped out on the Capital Mall calling attention to massive hunger and homelessness in the early 60's - Yep, you uneducated idiots are why - someone like us NEEDS to be around - to stop your greed, racism, and self-entitlement. ? someone like us ? So then, why aren't you posting from Cuba or North Korea . . . |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 1, 5:24*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:54:54 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote: On Jul 31, 9:15*pm, wrote: On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:57:17 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote: Mr. Dionne’s view of “undertaxed” is odd. *The IRS reports that in 2007 (the latest year for which data are available) the top 1 percent of taxpayers in the U.S. paid 40.4 percent of the total income taxes collected by Uncle Sam. However, they own 90% of all the wealth. * Also, their contributions stop at less than 1% of their total income to SS, and the tax code makes it possible for them to pay nearly nothing. They contribute nothing of value to the Nation, provide no military service, can buy their way out of most everything, afford anything This income disparity of which you point to is not a result of Capitalism. - It is. *Money is generated by market forces----and IF unregulated and - unrestricted will ONLY do what is best for a return of - profit----INDEPENDENT of what society requires. -so- "Money is generated by market forces" In a Communist Society ruled by a Cadre of {Elite} Communist Leaders : What Are The Market Forces ? On the contrary! *It is the result of ever increasing government interference in free market capitalism. The history of "less government" is STANDARD reading for anyone above the age of 12---in High schools (or used to be) and certainly in college dealing with turn of the 20th century society in American. Various books have been written about the squalor, exploitation, misery, filth, disease, and outright abuse of people by the business and wealth class in the early part of the 20th century (after 1860 orso) If this interference is allowed to continue, and God forbid increase, it will result in far more disastrous consequences which are not so far off on the economic horizon. Once again--read history Detroit and Chicago are well on this path. Major Urban centers do not fare well when Conservative/loonytarian government rears it's ugly head. *That's a historical fact. Here is what is happening thanks to an ever increasing Socialist Creep of government influence and regulations of the U.S. economy. You need to look up the difference between "socialism" and "social policy" *Both use the same word---in different meanings. I post the following for study as an example of the increasing rate of Socialism's detrimental creep into our economy. I post laughter at your loony crap A capitalist marketplace is a sort of Darwinian organism, evolved through natural selection as the fittest way to satisfy our needs. CHristsakes Do you know how many years social darwinism has been discredited as a theory? |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 1, 11:41*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Aug 1, 9:36*pm, sillapond wrote: On 08/01/2010 05:23 PM, Christopher Helms wrote: - - - I believe the top 5% actually control something - - - like 99% of the nation's wealth, - - But what YOU believe is INSANE! - Insane but true. So the Truth can cause Insanity. So when we say "The Truth Will Set You Free" ? Are We Saying : The Freedom to go Insane . . . * - = Insane Rant On = - * Fool Power to Taxing the Richest of the Rich ! * Leave No Dollar Un-Taxed and then Tax the Taxes * When the Rich No Longer have any Money : Then Tax Their Property; Their Children & Families. * When the Rich No Longer have any Property : Then Tax Their Food and Water. * When the Rich No Longer have any Food and Water : Then Tax the Air that they Breath YEAH - TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE i am an 'inverted' 0.01%er* ~ RHF * why i am so poor my zip code is all 00000s |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 1, 7:12*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote: We do, however, learn from history, that when the wealth and corporate class, coupled with LESS government, causes major social and economic disasters. You are wrong. *DEAD WRONG! Most everyone who can't take the truth---say history is wrong Don't take my word for it---any competent history book on America will tell you of the misery, woe, sickness, exploitation of the period from 1850-1930's---. bwaHAHAHA! AND YOU WERE THERE! WOW! You are not only DEAD WRONG you are STUPID DEAD WRONG. Only a Public School Teacher graduate from a Public Scool would claim their little Red History text books are anything other than propganda lies. Man, you are truely a lost brainwashed idiot if you beleive this shiesse. All you know is how to parrot LIE, LIES and MORE RED PROPAGANDA LIES! It has become a comedy. Unfortunately for you it all ends in tragedy. Or did you think those thousands who marched against our government, the marches in support of Communism happened because thousands didn't have anything to do those years? Here we go. Now the true mind of Red Liberal Fascist is revealed. Or--how about the tens of thousands marching in the South in the 60's, or the millions that camped out on the Capital Mall calling attention to massive hunger and homelessness in the early 60's Uh huh. Who were the organisers of your ignorant student body of young soft pliable minds? WHO WERE THESE COMMUNIST PARTY MEMBERS THAT DESTROYED THE YOUTH? If you know anything about history YOU KNOW MAO TSE DUNG! His CULTural Revolution!! I KNOW YOU DO!!! Yep, you uneducated idiots are why someone like us NEEDS to be around to stop your greed, racism, and self-entitlement. Many of the wonderful-sounding ideas that have been tried as government policies have failed disastrously. Because so few people bother to study history, often the same ideas and policies have been tried again, either in another country or in the same country at a later time-- and with the same disastrous results. One of the ideas that has proved to be almost impervious to evidence is the idea that wise and far-sighted people need to take control and plan economic and social policies so that there will be a rational and just order, rather than chaos resulting from things being allowed to take their own course. It sounds so logical and plausible that demanding hard evidence would seem almost like nit-picking. In one form or another, this idea goes back at least as far as the French Revolution in the 18th century. As J.A. Schumpeter later wrote of that era, "general well-being ought to have been the consequence," but "instead we find misery, shame and, at the end of it all, a stream of blood." The same could be said of the Bolshevik Revolution and other revolutions of the 20th century. The idea that the wise and knowledgeable few need to take control of the less wise and less knowledgeable many has taken milder forms-- and repeatedly with bad results as well. One of the most easily documented examples has been economic central planning, which was tried in countries around the world at various times during the 20th century, among people of differing races and cultures, and under government ranging from democracies to dictatorships. The people who ran central planning agencies usually had more advanced education than the population at large, and probably higher IQs as well. The central planners also had far more statistics and other facts at their disposal than the average person had. Moreover, there were usually specialized experts such as economists and statisticians on the staffs of the central planners, and outside consultants were available when needed. Finally, the central planners had the power of government behind them, to enforce the plans they created. It is hardly surprising that conservatives, such as Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in Britain and President Ronald Reagan in the United States, opposed this approach. What is remarkable is that, after a few decades of experience with central planning in some countries, or a few generations in others, even communists and socialists began to repudiate this approach. As they replaced central planning with more reliance on markets, their countries' economic growth rate almost invariably increased, often dramatically. In the largest and most recent examples-- China and India-- people by the millions have risen above these countries' official poverty rates, after they freed their economies from many of their suffocating government controls. China, where famines have repeatedly ravaged the country, now has a problem of obesity-- not a good thing in itself, but a big improvement over famines. This has implications far beyond economics. Think about it: How was it even possible that transferring decisions from elites with more education, intellect, data and power to ordinary people could lead consistently to demonstrably better results? One implication is that no one is smart enough to carry out social engineering, whether in the economy or in other areas where the results may not always be so easily quantifiable. We learn, not from our initial brilliance, but from trial and error adjustments to events as they unfold. Science tells us that the human brain reaches its maximum potential in early adulthood. Why then are young adults so seldom capable of doing what people with more years of experience can do? Because experience trumps brilliance. Elites may have more brilliance, but those who make decisions for society as a whole cannot possibly have as much experience as the millions of people whose decisions they preempt. The education and intellects of the elites may lead them to have more sweeping presumptions, but that just makes them more dangerous to the freedom, as well as the well-being, of the people as a whole. http://townhall.com/columnists/Thoma...w_smart_are_we http://www.tsowell.com |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 6, 9:03*pm, Paul Briskette wrote:
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:16:04 -0700, Chas. Chan wrote: On Aug 1, 7:12*pm, wrote: On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:56:45 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote: (deleted twisted logic rant) Because experience trumps brilliance. - Experience DOES tells us that trickle down economics do not work. |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:42:59 -0600, Obiter wrote:
On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 05:18:59 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote: FOOL POWER TO THE TAXES ! Yes, we call it "federalism" and is (and will be) the policy or returning tax revenue BACK to states (people) in a cogent, national, systematic set of policies. First - Tax the Rich to Death Again, bull**** stupidity. NO ONE want's to "tax the rich to death" OTOH, we don't want billions and billions flowing to ever smaller numbers of any class to the detriment of an entire society YEAH - TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE How do you "tax the rich out of existence"---if their Massive wealth is only taxed at a rate consistent with their ability to pay? Second - Tax the Middle Class* to Death WHich is exactly what conservatives do---to allow the wealth class to "keep their money" Third - Tax the Poor* The poor, under conservativism, are taxed disproportionally more than the top 10% PROVING Once Again that Nothing is Certain Except : Taxes & Death {Death & Taxes} And moral, ethical, legal, constitutional, and christian Prez Obama's Hope and Change seams to be morphing into the Hopelessness of Un-Employment and Chains of More and Higher Taxes resulting in the Obama Regime's Ever Expanding and Big {All Controlling} Government. Stupid ****wit The "raise" in taxes is mostly getting rid of Bush's cuts for the wealthy Wasting your time responding to the dip**** Mr. Cut-n-Paste RHF. He can only respond with the words of other dip****s. faux and limpalls Most everybody here filters him out |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 7, 7:42*am, wrote:
On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 05:18:59 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote: FOOL POWER TO THE TAXES ! Yes, we call it "federalism" and is (and will be) the policy or returning tax revenue BACK to states (people) in a cogent, national, systematic set of policies. First - Tax the Rich to Death Again, bull**** stupidity. *NO ONE want's to "tax the rich to death" OTOH, we don't want billions and billions flowing to ever smaller numbers of any class to the detriment of an entire society YEAH - TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE How do you "tax the rich out of existence"---if their Massive wealth is only taxed at a rate consistent with their ability to pay? Second - Tax the Middle Class* to Death WHich is exactly what conservatives do---to allow the wealth class to "keep their money" Third - Tax the Poor* The poor, under conservativism, are taxed disproportionally more than the top 10% PROVING Once Again that Nothing is Certain Except : Taxes & Death {Death & Taxes} And moral, ethical, legal, constitutional, and christian Prez Obama's Hope and Change seams to be morphing into the Hopelessness of Un-Employment and Chains of More and Higher Taxes resulting in the Obama Regime's Ever Expanding and Big {All Controlling} Government. - Stupid ****wit Obi ? Stupid ****wit ? { Is that sort of a FATWA of Hate Speech Attack Language ? } |
(OT) : When is Prez Obama Going to Take Responsibility for Being theUS President and Stop Blaming former prez Bush . . .
On Aug 7, 7:42*am, wrote:
On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 05:18:59 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote: FOOL POWER TO THE TAXES ! Yes, we call it "federalism" and is (and will be) the policy or returning tax revenue BACK to states (people) in a cogent, national, systematic set of policies. First - Tax the Rich to Death Again, bull**** stupidity. *NO ONE want's to "tax the rich to death" OTOH, we don't want billions and billions flowing to ever smaller numbers of any class to the detriment of an entire society YEAH - TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE How do you "tax the rich out of existence"---if their Massive wealth is only taxed at a rate consistent with their ability to pay? Second - Tax the Middle Class* to Death WHich is exactly what conservatives do---to allow the wealth class to "keep their money" Third - Tax the Poor* The poor, under conservativism, are taxed disproportionally more than the top 10% PROVING Once Again that Nothing is Certain Except : Taxes & Death {Death & Taxes} And moral, ethical, legal, constitutional, and christian Prez Obama's Hope and Change seams to be morphing into the Hopelessness of Un-Employment and Chains of More and Higher Taxes resulting in the Obama Regime's Ever Expanding and Big {All Controlling} Government. Stupid ****wit The "raise" in taxes is mostly getting rid of Bush's cuts for the wealthy One simple Fact Obama [LD] and Pelosi [LD] and Reid [LD] have controlled the US Congress for Years and the White House for over a Year . . . http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4ece5199a86a10 "LD" = Liberal Democrats Prez Obama [LD] - It's Now Your Fault ! Nancy Pelosi [LD] - It's Now Your Fault ! Harry Reid [LD] - It's Now Your Fault ! Obama Change = More and More Wasteful Spending Obama Change = Higher and Higher Taxes on Living Obama Hope = Hopelessness of Failed Government Obama Hope = Higher and Constant Un-employment for all Obama Hope = Smaller Un-Employment Checks for all HELLO America - Prez Bush has been out of Office for a Year and a Half : When is Prez Obama Going to Take Responsibility for Being the US President and Stop Blaming former prez Bush . . . HELLO America - The republicans have not controlled either of House's of the US Congress since 2007 : When is Prez Obama Going to Take Responsibility for Being the US President and Stop Blaming the Republicans for the Failures of the Democrats . . . -and- When are Pelosi and Reid Going to Take Responsibility for Being the Heads of the Houses of the US Congress and Stop Blaming the Republicans for the Failures of their own Democrats . . . OOPS - Even Jay Leno is now making late-nite jokes about Prez Obama still Blaming former prez Bush . . . http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...64edf9bca744ca prez obama a sad portrait of failed leadership ~ RHF http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...844035033d4e69 |
(OT) : OOPS - Even Jay Leno is now making late-nite Jokes about PrezObama still Blaming former prez Bush . . .
On Aug 7, 1:35*pm, Paul Briskette wrote:
On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:42:59 -0600, Obiter wrote: On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 05:18:59 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote: FOOL POWER TO THE TAXES ! Yes, we call it "federalism" and is (and will be) the policy or returning tax revenue BACK to states (people) in a cogent, national, systematic set of policies. First - Tax the Rich to Death Again, bull**** stupidity. *NO ONE want's to "tax the rich to death" OTOH, we don't want billions and billions flowing to ever smaller numbers of any class to the detriment of an entire society YEAH - TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE How do you "tax the rich out of existence"---if their Massive wealth is only taxed at a rate consistent with their ability to pay? Second - Tax the Middle Class* to Death WHich is exactly what conservatives do---to allow the wealth class to "keep their money" Third - Tax the Poor* The poor, under conservativism, are taxed disproportionally more than the top 10% PROVING Once Again that Nothing is Certain Except : Taxes & Death {Death & Taxes} And moral, ethical, legal, constitutional, and christian Prez Obama's Hope and Change seams to be morphing into the Hopelessness of Un-Employment and Chains of More and Higher Taxes resulting in the Obama Regime's Ever Expanding and Big {All Controlling} Government. Stupid ****wit The "raise" in taxes is mostly getting rid of Bush's cuts for the wealthy Wasting your time responding to the dip**** Mr. Cut-n-Paste RHF. He can only respond with the words of other dip****s. faux and limpalls Most everybody here filters him out PB ? dip**** ? & ? dip**** ? PB ? faux ? & ? limpalls ? |
(OT) : 'Group-Think' is Un-American
On Aug 7, 7:21*pm, Day Brown wrote:
On 08/06/2010 08:16 PM, Chas. Chan wrote: Elites may have more brilliance, but those who make decisions for society as a whole cannot possibly have as much experience as the millions of people whose decisions they preempt. The education and intellects of the elites may lead them to have more sweeping presumptions, but that just makes them more dangerous to the freedom, as well as the well-being, of the people as a whole. It dont work that way anymore. It turns out, the neurology shows that you cant raise kids on sugar cereals, junk food, and soda and then expect them to grow up to be rational voters. Just look at all the lunacy here compared to the tiny amount of rational discourse. And this effects the elites as well. As a result, the corporate mass media prefers sensational stories that build ratings and hence ad revenues rather than the dull analysis of real statistical data showing what is going on. - The elites, the media, and the sheeple all suffer from group think. But these are three different groups - so . . . Elite {Elitists} Group Think -wrt- Czars & Kings, & Lords & Caliphs; Comrade Great Leaders & Commissars; Führers & Reichsfuhrers; Presidents-for-Life; etc * Impose the Suffering on the Masses Mass Media {Propagandist} Group Think -wrt- Wilson WWI & Goebbels WWII & 1984 * Glorify Suffering as Good and Necessary and even to be Enjoyed Sheeple {The Subjugated Masses} Group Think -wrt- Workers & Serfs & Slaves * Endure the Real Pain of the Suffering All American Individualism Screams Out Against {Foreign} Group Think : America - "Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, http://www.libertystatepark.com/emma.htm Your Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free, America a Government : Of the People {Not Sheeple and Not the Elitists}, By the People {Not Sheeple and Not the Elitists}, For the People {Not Sheeple and Not the Elitists}, Shall not Perish from the Earth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Address Prez Lincoln had it right and you are simply wrong ~ RHF |
(OT) : 'Group-Think' is Un-American
RHF wrote:
All American Individualism Screams Out Against {Foreign} Group Think : America - "Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, http://www.libertystatepark.com/emma.htm Your Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free, Unless they are indigenous brown folks from the other side of a river. |
(OT) : 'Group-Think' is Un-American
Day Brown wrote:
And in this case, without leadership we see anarchy. An opportunity to birth a power trip ensues... |
(OT) : 'Group-Think' is Un-American
On 08/08/2010 12:48 AM, Day Brown wrote:
Women tend to offer a lower cost of management cause they dont need to support harems, and dont start wars to increase the size. The Falklands. |
(OT) : 'Group-Think' is Un-American
Wimmin are high maintnance items.
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(OT) : 'Group-Think' is Un-American
On 8/8/2010 9:59 AM, sillapond wrote:
On 08/08/2010 12:48 AM, Day Brown wrote: Women tend to offer a lower cost of management cause they dont need to support harems, and dont start wars to increase the size. Th Still jamming your nose up the sphincters of everyone who threatens you, eh? Poor little skidmark. Do you ever dream of people talking to you like the adult you will never be? '**** happens' ---Traitorous 'Spammy' Sam's reply to the fact that 34 Americans died and 170 were injured when Israel attacked the USS Liberty. Spammy is a gutless coward who has never served his country in uniform. |
(OT) : 'Group-Think' is Un-American
On Aug 8, 6:52*am, dave wrote:
- - RHF wrote: - - - - All American Individualism Screams Out - - Against {Foreign} Group Think : - - - - America - "Give Me Your Tired, Your Poor, - - http://www.libertystatepark.com/emma.htm - - Your Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free, - - - - Unless they are indigenous brown folks - - from the other side of a river. Dave the Statue of Liberty is the 'symbol' of American's Open Door to Legal Emigration {Ellis Island} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Island dave - try to think like an america who welcomes legal immigration and not illegal invasion ~ RHF |
(OT) : RHF is emperor of America
On 8/9/2010 4:13 PM, dave wrote:
RHF wrote: Dave the Statue of Liberty is the 'symbol' of American's Open Door to Legal Emigration {Ellis Island} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Island dave - try to think like an america who welcomes legal immigration and not illegal invasion ~ RHF . The Indians were here first. Maybe we should ask them if the Mexicans are "illegal" and whether the spawn of Europeans have any right to decide who gets to stay. I was born here by what you call an illegal, so I'm a citizen anchor baby, and have the same rights as any Indians. I also have as much "say" as any Indian. |
(OT) : RHF is emperor of America
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(OT) : RHF is emperor of America
RHF wrote:
Dave the Statue of Liberty is the 'symbol' of American's Open Door to Legal Emigration {Ellis Island} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Island dave - try to think like an america who welcomes legal immigration and not illegal invasion ~ RHF . The Indians were here first. Maybe we should ask them if the Mexicans are "illegal" and whether the spawn of Europeans have any right to decide who gets to stay. |
(OT) : RHF is emperor of America
Pelosi Raiding Treasury for democrap Election Funds!! 26 Billion
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(OT) : Prez Obama "Emperor of these United States" & "Protector ofMexico"
On Aug 9, 1:13*pm, dave wrote:
- - RHF wrote: - - Dave the Statue of Liberty is the 'symbol' of American's - - Open Door to Legal Emigration {Ellis Island} - - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty - - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Island - - - - dave - try to think like an america who welcomes - - legal immigration and not illegal invasion ~ RHF - - . - The Indians were here first. Scientists theorize that the so called present day Native Americans {Indians} are the blended remnants of three large Migrations two from Asia and one from Europe. Three Major Pre-Columbian Migrations into North American Two from Asia and one from Europe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_era The first migration from asia was from ancestors of the Ainu people now in northern Japan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people http://news.softpedia.com/news/9-Ama...e-79277..shtml -note- the Land-Bridge theory is countered by the Coastal Migration theory resulting from the Ice Ages & Lower Sea Levels & Exposed Coastlines for travel by shore and boat. |
(OT) : Prez Obama "Emperor of these United States" & "Protectorof Mexico"
Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote: Bob Dobbs wrote: dave wrote: My family ancestors killed Indians. I get all the "welcome" I need when the toilet flushes. I suppose I've inherited some of the blame from my ancestors who lacked the prescience back at Plymouth Rock to burn those arriving boats to the waterline and drown any swimmers, otherwise it'd be a different country today. My people came ashore in Jamestown. We "displaced" your ancestors' cousins. But not before they stuffed their guts with free turkey 'n trimmings. Did that really happen? We arrived in 1609. And then more in 1657 in Stafford. |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
On Aug 7, 9:33*am, wrote:
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 18:16:04 -0700 (PDT), "Chas. Chan" wrote: http://townhall.com/columnists/Thoma...w_smart_are_we http://www.tsowell.com BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHa "TownHall" "Sowell"? Those are the two looniest rightwing places on earth Thomas Sowell EDUCATION: Ph.D. in Economics, University of Chicago, 1968 A.M. in Economics, Columbia University, 1959 A.B. in Economics, magna cum laude, Harvard College, 1958 EXPERIENCE: Senior Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University, September 1980 - present Professor of Economics, U.C.L.A., July 1974 - June 1980 Visiting Professor of Economics, Amherst College, September- December 1977 Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University, April- August 1977 Fellow, Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences, July 1976 - March 1977 Project Director, The Urban Institute, August 1972 - July 1974 Associate Professor of Economics, U.C.L.A., September 1970 - June 1972 Associate Professor of Economics, Brandeis University, September 1969 - June 1970 Assistant Professor of Economics, Cornell University, September 1965 - June 1969 Economic Analyst, American Telephone & TelegraphCo., June 1964 - August 1965 Lecturer in Economics, Howard University, September 1963 - June 1964 Instructor in Economics, Douglass College, Rutgers University, September 1962 - June 1963 Labor Economist, U.S. Department of Labor, June 1961 - August 1962 PRINCIPAL PUBLICATIONS: Intellectuals and Society (Basic Books, 2009) On Classical Economics (Yale University Press, 2006) Black Rednecks and White Liberals (Encounter Books, 2005) The Quest for Cosmic Justice (Free Press,1999) Conquests and Cultures (Basic Books, 1998) Migrations and Cultures (Basic Books, 1996) The Vision of the Anointed (Basic Books, 1995) Race and Cultu A World View ( Basic Books,1994 ) A Conflict of Visions (William Morrow, 1987) Ethnic America (Basic Books, 1981) Knowledge and Decisions (Basic Books, 1980) Say's Law: An Historical Analysis (Princeton University Press, 1972) http://www.tsowell.com/cv.html Yeap, Thomas Sowell is a loonie alRight. He wipes his arsh with 0baMa0's two books Audacity of Hope & Change We Can Believe In.- bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
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Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
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(OT) : The Democrat Party of the USA Demands Strict Adherence toRacial Unitary Thinking for All African- Americans -else- They Be Branded asRace Traitors
On Aug 13, 10:55*am, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:08:10 -0800, dave wrote: wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:11:08 -0700 (PDT), "Chas. Chan" *wrote: Yeap, Thomas Sowell is a loonie alRight. There's a lot of names for what he "is" Mostly related to a intellectual whore who, by virtue of advantage of programs and work done by liberals and progressives, made his life possible - - He comes across as a much nicer guy on - - the radio or TV. *His writing is kinda dogmatic. - I'm sure he is a "nice guy" - - But he's paid to write against the best intrests - of his own race, against the intrests of the - American people below the wealth level of - the rich and corporate class obi,,, Obi... OBI ! ! ! Ah another Liberal Democrat Shill touting the Democrat Party of the USA party-line that All African-Americans : Must Think Alike and Vote Democrat -or- They Are Sell Outs To Their Race. ? Are Not African-Americans also Americans and a vital integral part of the great mass of American People Too ? So African-Americans can not be Wealthy and Rich; and Think Like Wealthy Rich People Do . . . * Do Judge a Wealthy and Rich Person by the Color of Their Skin; but by the 'Content' of their Wealth and Riches ! -a-la- MLKjr ? Are Not the Wealthy and Rich also Americans and a vital integral part of the great mass of the American People Too ? So African-Americans can not be Leaders and Members of the Corporate Class; and Think Like Corporate Class People Do . . . * Do Judge the Corporate Class Persons by the Color of Their Skin; but by the 'Content' of their Corporate Status ! -a-la- MLKjr ? Is Not the Corporate Class also Americans and a vital integral part of the great mass of the American People Too ? So African-Americans can not be Leaders and Members of the Educated Elite; and Think Like Educated Elite People Do . . . * Do Judge the Educated Elite Persons by the Color of Their Skin; but by the 'Content' of their Educated Elite Status ! -a-la- MLKjr ? Are Not the Educated Elite also Americans and a vital integral part of the great mass of the American People Too ? But you will let African-Americans to be Poor, Un-Educated, Unemployed and Hopeless Trapped in the Social Economic Under-Class : So that African-Americans can be used as a "Class Warfare" Group can be Exploited by the Democrat Party of the USA for Political Power -wrt- The Ends Justify The Means. So the Democrat Party of the USA Demands Strict Adherence to Racial Unitary Thinking for All African- Americans -else- They Be Branded as Race Traitors. obi... keep preaching that democrat party class warfare hatred and demand for racial unitary thinking -cause- it is so transparently elitist and racist ~ RHF |
(OT) : The Democrat Party of the USA Demands Strict Adherence toRacial Unitary Thinking for All African- Americans -else- They Be Branded asRace Traitors
On Aug 13, 11:49*am, RHF wrote:
On Aug 13, 10:55*am, wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:08:10 -0800, dave wrote: wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:11:08 -0700 (PDT), "Chas. Chan" *wrote: Yeap, Thomas Sowell is a loonie alRight. There's a lot of names for what he "is" Mostly related to a intellectual whore who, by virtue of advantage of programs and work done by liberals and progressives, made his life possible - - He comes across as a much nicer guy on - - the radio or TV. *His writing is kinda dogmatic. - I'm sure he is a "nice guy" - - But he's paid to write against the best intrests - of his own race, against the intrests of the - American people below the wealth level of - the rich and corporate class - obi,,, Obi... OBI ! ! ! - - Ah another Liberal Democrat Shill touting the Democrat - Party of the USA party-line that All African-Americans : - Must Think Alike and Vote Democrat -or- They Are Sell - Outs To Their Race. - - ? Are Not African-Americans also Americans and a vital - integral part of the great mass of American People Too ? - - So African-Americans can not be Wealthy and - Rich; and Think Like Wealthy Rich People Do . . . * Do Not Judge a Wealthy and Rich Person by the Color of Their Skin; but by the 'Content' of their Wealth and Riches ! -a-la- MLKjr - ? Are Not the Wealthy and Rich also Americans and - a vital integral part of the great mass of the American - People Too ? - - So African-Americans can not be Leaders and - Members of the Corporate Class; and Think Like - Corporate Class People Do . . . * Do Not Judge the Corporate Class Persons by the Color of Their Skin; but by the 'Content' of their Corporate Status ! -a-la- MLKjr - ? Is Not the Corporate Class also Americans and a vital - integral part of the great mass of the American People Too ? - - So African-Americans can not be Leaders and - Members of the Educated Elite; and Think Like - Educated Elite People Do . . . * Do Not Judge the Educated Elite Persons by the Color of Their Skin; but by the 'Content' of their Educated Elite Status ! -a-la- MLKjr - ? Are Not the Educated Elite also Americans and a vital - integral part of the great mass of the American People Too ? - - But you will let African-Americans to be Poor, Un-Educated, - Unemployed and Hopeless Trapped in the Social Economic - Under-Class : So that African-Americans can be used as a - "Class Warfare" Group can be Exploited by the Democrat Party - of the USA for Political Power -wrt- The Ends Justify The Means. - - So the Democrat Party of the USA Demands Strict - Adherence to Racial Unitary Thinking for All African- - Americans -else- They Be Branded as Race Traitors. - - obi... keep preaching that democrat party class - warfare hatred and demand for racial unitary thinking - -cause- it is so transparently elitist and racist ~ RHF - *. - *. Added 3 Missing "Not"s ~ RHF |
Tax Burden of Top 1% Now Exceeds That of Bottom 95% - COMBINED!
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