On Aug 6, 8:54*pm, (David Kaye) wrote:
Steve wrote:
This hits the nail on the head. No one accused Eduardo of being
stupid, but he has his own agenda and he will distort the truth
accordingly. He's a bit like Univision's own version of the Iraqi
Information Minister under Saddam. Remember him?

Okay, let's say your company spent oddles of dollars on a failed technology.
You've had success and your company likes you, but then you also realize
that you're age 61, in a job that normally goes to people 20 to 30 years
younger than you. *If you lose this job you'll likely stay in radio, given
your track record, but not in a position paying as well or with as much
prestige as what you have right now. *

Do you tow the company line or do you speak out and jeopardize your job? *For
those who have a knee-jerk reaction of "tell the truth", all I can say is that
you've never had to face such a question or you wouldn't be so quick on the
draw. *

I'm not saying that Eduardo is the devil because he's a sellout. I'm
merely asserting what many others have also observed: that, for
whatever reason, Eduardo is a sellout. I bear him no ill will. I just
call 'em like I see 'em.

I don't listen to radio when I am driving, it makes me nervous.I have
been driving since 1957, no accidents yet.Knock on Wood.
cuhulin

On Aug 6, 5:45*pm, (David Kaye) wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote:
While I may not have some of the expertise he claims to have, [....]

It's not a matter of "claims." *He's known in the industry and he has a
website detailing all his accomplishments over the years, complete with photos
and other documents. *

He cares about ratings, which are made of
whole cloth and based upon a model that is non-sequitur in the real world.

Huh? *Without ratings it's very hard to make income. *Sure, it's possible to
sell time on stations with no ratings, but it's extremely difficult. *Stations
such as KEST and KPIG(AM) do it, but they have a tough go of it. *KPIG(AM) is
advertising for salespeople every couple months because it's so hard to keep
salespeople who can't make any money selling time. *

Regardless of whether you think the ratings system is flawed or not, the PPMs
and the diaries of Arbitron are fairly close for the most part, and the
differences between Neilsen and Arbitron ratings aren't much different,
either. *Thus, I'd be inclined to think the ratings systems aren't as flawed
as people contend they are. *

We've all seen what the true meaning of polls is during the past four
election cycles. There's just no way you can legitimately, despite what some
would have you believe, base the opinions of 1,000,000 people on the dubious
reporting of a few hundred or so.

None of this matters in radio and TV ratings. *The ratings come in and the
stations sell based on those ratings. *The advertisers buy based on the
assumption that they are correct. *If they're so far off as to be bogus, the
advertisers would have left long ago and the ratings systems would have been
thrown out. *Companies do not spend money capriciously, especially they're
trying to bring in business. *

I agree Eduardo is pretty sharp, but let me try to explain Brenda's
point, or perhaps put my spin on it. There are two ways to market a
product. One is to do research, focus groups, etc. This produces a
product that the market probably wants to some degree, but also a
product for which the market is familiar. Now the way to make a
killing is to come up with a product that the customer doesn't know he
needs. You understand the product, not the market per se because the
market isn't built yet. Basically if you focus on surveys, you can
only provide something that the customer already knows about. You
probably won't screw up, but you won't make a killing either.

Eduardo has no passion for radio. He surveys the market and tries to
adjust stations to meet what his survey indicates is marketable.

On Aug 6, 5:27*pm, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:
On 6 Aug, 17:36, (David Kaye) wrote:

DigitalRadioScams wrote:
No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO! A tactic admission that mobile HD
Radio simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

Given that David works with these numbers for a living as the national
programming director of a nationwide station operator, I'd say that he
probably has a reason to say the things he does about ratings. *Perhaps it's a
misunderstanding somewhere.

Given that Eduardo is a huge IBOC-shill and liar, who twists numbers
in support of this huge HD debacle. And. given that Univision is an
investor in iNiquity.

Eduardo doesn't shill. Rather, he has bet his reputation on that
crappy technology. Eduardo can plug HD all day on usenet and it won't
make a hill of beans in the sales numbers, so he is not shilling. Of
course, it is pretty obvious he is spreading propaganda.

On Aug 6, 3:09*pm, (David Kaye) wrote:

- - RHF wrote:

- - - He's a pretty consistant pompous, dismissive ass...

First - "David Kaye" don't cut and trim a the Prior
Posts and Attack the Wrong Poster :

Steve wrote:

On Aug 6, 8:27 pm, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:
On 6 Aug, 17:36, (David Kaye) wrote:

DigitalRadioScams wrote:
No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO! A tactic admission that mobile HD
Radio simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

Given that David works with these numbers for a living as the national
programming director of a nationwide station operator, I'd say that he
probably has a reason to say the things he does about ratings. Perhaps it's a
misunderstanding somewhere.

Given that Eduardo is a huge IBOC-shill and liar, who twists numbers
in support of this huge HD debacle. And. given that Univision is an
investor in iNiquity.

This hits the nail on the head. No one accused Eduardo of being
stupid, but he has his own agenda and he will distort the truth
accordingly. He's a bit like Univision's own version of the Iraqi
Information Minister under Saddam. Remember him?

'Baghdad Bob', the guy who said there were no Americans in the city, while one could
clearly see their vehicles in the background?

On Aug 6, 5:36*pm, Steve wrote:
On Aug 6, 8:27*pm, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:

On 6 Aug, 17:36, (David Kaye) wrote:

DigitalRadioScams wrote:
No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO! A tactic admission that mobile HD
Radio simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

Given that David works with these numbers for a living as the national
programming director of a nationwide station operator, I'd say that he
probably has a reason to say the things he does about ratings. *Perhaps it's a
misunderstanding somewhere.

Given that Eduardo is a huge IBOC-shill and liar, who twists numbers
in support of this huge HD debacle. And. given that Univision is an
investor in iNiquity.

This hits the nail on the head. No one accused Eduardo of being
stupid, but he has his own agenda and he will distort the truth
accordingly.

d'Eduardo understands the Univision Corporation's
Agenda to use IBOC and HD1 and HD2 Channels
to Double the Number of Spanish Language FM
Radio Stations in the USA.
* Double the FM Station HD Channels
* Double the Listener Choices
* Double the Revenue Streams
It's About Business [.]

- He's a bit like Univision's own version of the Iraqi
- Information Minister under Saddam.
- Remember him?

We are Winning the War : Soon the Enemy
will run out of Iraqi Soldiers to Shoot and Kill !

On 8/7/10 1:13 PM, RHF wrote:
d'Eduardo understands the Univision Corporation's
Agenda to use IBOC and HD1 and HD2 Channels
to Double the Number of Spanish Language FM
Radio Stations in the USA.
* Double the FM Station HD Channels
* Double the Listener Choices
* Double the Revenue Streams

No. The same audience will be split up amongst more channels. All
sounding like AM radio.

It's About Business [.]

A bad one.

gr, hwh

On Aug 6, 5:32*pm, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:
On 6 Aug, 18:25, "Drewdove" wrote:



"DigitalRadioScams" wrote in message

....

From Radio-Info:
July 2005

"There are two ways of looking at this. 43% of LA listening time is at
home, 33% in car, 23% at work and 3% elsewhere. 72% listen at some
time in each week at home, 85% in the car, 26% at work and 14%
elswhere. The difference is that in car listening is for shorter
periods than in home or at work, but more people do it. 45% of LA
listeners cume radio at night."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind...e;topic=5997.0

Then, today:

"The average listener does 70% of their listening in a fixed location,
where there are no dropouts anyway."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind....msg1497481#ms....

No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO! A tactic admission that mobile HD
Radio simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

I must be one of the odd ones in SoCal as I rarely listen to radio while at
home or work but never drive with the radio off. With me it's start car and
turn on the radio (if I turned it off, which I rarely do). So I probably do
99.44% of my listening in the car.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- Who in Hell comes home and turns on their radio? *

I do turn on the 'local' AM Radio Station to
Listen to the Local News that the Big City
TV and Radio Stations don't cover.

Local Noon News on the Radio followed by the
Regional/State/National News on the TV out of
SAC-Town.

- Maybe, sit at their computers and listen to Internet Radio.

Dang I got a real AM/FM/Shortwave Radio with
some real outside Antennas next to my PC and
listen to Radio ~80% of the time. {like right now}

- Yup, what a bitch, Eduardo,

So you must be his sister . . .

- most people listen while in the car to/from work,
- and those few enjoy their nifty HD Radio dropouts
- and cludgy tuners - LOL!

Yeah - I get in the Car/Truck and Start-it-up and
there it is : The Radio Sounding Away : Cause It
Is Always On when the Car is On.

radio just listen ~ RHF

On Aug 6, 5:34*pm, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:
On 6 Aug, 18:57, RHF wrote:



On Aug 6, 10:52*am, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:

From Radio-Info:
July 2005

"There are two ways of looking at this. 43% of LA listening time is at
home, 33% in car, 23% at work and 3% elsewhere. 72% listen at some
time in each week at home, 85% in the car, 26% at work and 14%
elswhere. The difference is that in car listening is for shorter
periods than in home or at work, but more people do it. 45% of LA
listeners cume radio at night."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind...e;topic=5997.0

Then, today:

"The average listener does 70% of their listening in a fixed location,
where there are no dropouts anyway."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind....msg1497481#ms...

- No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO!
- A tactic admission that mobile HD Radio
- simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

HEY - Mobile IBOC [HD] Radio does work Great
. . . as long as you stay parked in the Driveway.

Actually HD Radio Receivers have the same
disadvantages and Advantages as the good
old Analog AM/FM Radios.
* Most of the Home Radios are poorly designed
and cheaply built and lack real RF performance.
* While most of the Auto Radios are better designed
and better built and have good RF performance wrt
those intended for the Home.
* Plus the Auto Radios are 'matched' to an Antenna
system that works very well in the mobile environment
that the Radio exists in.

IBOC is a Two [Dual] Signal System Analog and Digital
-if- the Digital Drops-Out the Analog is still there.
-if- the Digital Drops-Out the Analog is weak and/or hash
Digital is not the issue -cause- you are in a signal dead
zone or beyond the stations signal.

HOME - IBOC [HD] Radios can have their Digital
over Analog 'sense' point set at a higher level;
because they are in a fixed location; with Digtal
being the preferred mode.

AUTO - IBOC [HD] Radios can have their Analog
over Digital 'sense' point set at a lower level; because
they are in a mobile location; with Analog being the
preferred mode.

Actually having a Preferred 'Mode' Switch built into
the IBOC [HD] Radio makes sense especially for
Auto Radios. *Call the Preferred 'Mode' Switch what
you will :
* Local [HD] / Distant AM/FM
* HD / Normal

For most Audio Consumers at Home : Music is the
preferred Content and they listen to FM Stereo; and
Digital "HD" Radio expands their Music Listening
Enjoyment.

For most Audio Consumers in Autos : Music is again
the preferred Content and they listen to FM Stereo; and
Digital "HD" Radio expands their Music Listening
Enjoyment.

Note KSL & KCBS* both 'simulcast' on FM now.
* News Weather and Traffic for People On The Go !

As IBOC [HD] Radio increases it's Digital Signal
Output from 1% up to 10%? the Drop-Outs will
lessen and the number of HD Audio Consumers will
expand greatly at least for the FM Radio Band;
where the majority of Audio Consumers are.

And once again IBOC [HD] Radio is very much like
good old Analog Radio It's FREE* to the Consumer.
* and the majority of the people like 'Free'; grew-up
on/with 'Free'; and think 'Free' is really good.

Last things that I read from the FCC {US GOV} and
NPR {CPB+US GOV} both were Positive about IBOC
[HD] Radio; at least for the FM Radio Band where
NPR with the Thousands of Public Non-Commercial
FM Radio Stations; together are looking to expand
both their Content and Services via IBOC using HD-1
and HD-2 Channels on the FM HD-Radio.

NOTE - I recently bought an Insignia® FM HD-Radio
'portable' Player Model NS-HD01 as a waking around
Pocket FM Radio. *Even up here in Twain Harte, CA
{The Land of the Blinking Blue Light -aka- Drop-Outs}
it preforms well and gives good reception and quality
sound from Central Valley FM HD-Radio Stations that
are 45~75 Air Miles away.

The Future of FM Radio is IBOC
-and-
The Future of IBOC is FM Radio
-while-
AM/MW Radio is simply a non-player ~ RHF
*.
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

- I heard that those lucky few that bought the Insignia portables,
that
- as soon as they start walking their HDs drop out - LOL! *BTW -
- Sangewan cancelled their new portable HD Radio - yea!

Walk all around the Yard [4-Acres] and haven't
noticed any FM HD-Radio Drop-outs except for
near the Solar Panels.

radio be it analog or digital - just listen ~ RHF