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On Sep 17, 10:02*am, dave wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 9/16/2010 6:14 PM, RHF wrote:

...
i am for smaller prisons : hence the trash compactor
at the front gate -not-so-funny-and-sort-of-sick- ~ RHF
...

I keep hearing that the average cost per inmate, in prison, is ~$40,000
per year. I would think we would be anxious to make the prisons as small
as possible ... but, I keep hearing that prisoners are being used as
slave labor, paid ~0.25 per hour and do jobs for private industries
which contract with the prisons ...

Point is, the whole prison "thing" stinks to high heaven ... and, I also
hear that ~1% of our population is locked up in prisons ... add to that
the rumor has it that ~30%-50% of the prisoners are in their for
"victimless crimes" and it is a real reeking sewer plant of possible
corruption and abuses ...

This is a great example of corporations making law, changing politics,
and getting rich.

Follow the "3 strikes" laws, drugs laws, *and the development of private
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Someone is making a lot of money from all them prisoners. Lot more
than we know, does anybody out there keep track of the actual figures ?

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On Sep 17, 10:16*am, dave wrote:
wrote:

And how, may we ask is it "that 210 years ago people were generally a
lot smarter than they are now" ? *I was always told that most people
(worldwide) were mostly illiterate until very recently. And how can we
sample a spoken recording of *such a time???

In the 18th century Americans were more rational and focused than they
are today. Their vocabularies were much bigger and they could follow an
argument to a logical conclusion.

TV, the internet, etc., may fill up our heads with more facts, etc., but
they have done nothing but made us functionally way dumber. *I like to
think of the mass media as a voluntary electronic lobotomy.

Read "the Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine (the atheist who invented the
USA). *It is one of the most beautiful things ever written. Nothing
today compares.

Thomas Paine was not an average person. I seriously doubt that the
average 18th century American was even half as bright.

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On Sep 17, 6:44*pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 17, 2:02*pm, m II wrote: John Smith wrote:
On 9/17/2010 6:57 AM, dave wrote:

...
Europeans are the most perverse people on the planet. They ****ed the
world up. There is nothing to be admired that they didn't steal from
somebody else. All hail Einstein's planet killer bomb.

Well, I don't know about that kind of "Bomb Worship." *However, I am
pretty certain, it did save me from speaking japanese--I am thankful for
that ...

Regards,
JS

- The war was just about over when they dropped
- the bombs. They needed a human population to
- use as Guinea Pigs. The only atrocity bigger in
- the War was the fire bombing of German cities.

Nah the Fire Bombing of Tokyo killed more Japanese
an estimated 1.5 million peoplehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo

Once Again 'The Voice of Canada' Got It Wrong.

Speaking of "Guinea Pigs" M II how are you . . .

;;-}} ~ RHF
*.





As for Einstein, it would appear he was a thief.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/es...//home.comcast...

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1.5 million is an estimate only. We may never know the real number of
civilian deaths. Japanese are very good in deception. especially when
they are at war.

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On Sep 17, 7:48*pm, dave wrote:
John Smith wrote:

I love when fools attempt to rewrite history ...

I love it when people believe the "conventional wisdom". It makes it
easier to manipulate them.

We bombed Japan TWICE to send a message to Joe Stalin. *Had nothing to
do with the Japanese, who were ready to surrender without us needing to
take ground.

Uncle Joe was also a great deceiver/ actor. His own people still fear/
hate/despise him. Even in his hometown his statue was removed not so
long ago. Had to be done at night,though.

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On Sep 17, 8:43*pm, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 9/17/10 17:56 , m II wrote:

Isaac Newton supposedly said that energy and matter have an
equivalence and are interchangeable. That should be a few hundred
years before 1900. Then there are the ancient Greeks and their
atoms...where does it end?

* *Iowa.

LOL!

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On Sep 16, 10:56*pm, wrote:
On Sep 16, 9:44*am, dave wrote:





Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

But it's worse now. Multiple-thousand-page "laws" are passed by
legislators who never even bother to read them. And really, they
couldn't even if they wanted to -- there are too many. It's beyond
insane, beyond Kafkaesque. May the gods end it all soon.

With all good wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom.

Why stop with the Constitution? *210 years ago people were generally a
lot smarter than they are now. Hell, look at the way they talked.

I'm all for returning to the principle that only Congress can declare
war. I'm also for confiscatory taxes to prevent family dynasties and
concentration of power at the top. *I'm for import duties to protect
domestic industry and for the abolition of standing armies. And the
pre-Marbury v Madison Supreme Court.

When you start pinin' for the good old days where do you stop?

And how, may we ask is it "that 210 years ago people were generally a
lot smarter than they are now" ? *I was always told that most people
(worldwide) were mostly illiterate until very recently. And how can we
sample a spoken recording of *such a time???

I think that the people of the time who *were* educated, without
knowing nearly so much as is known now, were far more philosophically
and classically trained as a rule. Reason and logic were held in high
esteem, unlike these days when instinct seems to be making a comeback
and narrowly-focused hedonism is more prevalent.

However, you are right - the ranks of the illiterate and substantially
uneducated were legion - and for most vocations of the time it
probably was not critical anyway. Formal education for farming,
blacksmithing, coopering, tailoring and etc. was apprenticeship.

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On Sep 18, 2:39*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 16, 10:56*pm, wrote:





On Sep 16, 9:44*am, dave wrote:

Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

But it's worse now. Multiple-thousand-page "laws" are passed by
legislators who never even bother to read them. And really, they
couldn't even if they wanted to -- there are too many. It's beyond
insane, beyond Kafkaesque. May the gods end it all soon.

With all good wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom.

Why stop with the Constitution? *210 years ago people were generally a
lot smarter than they are now. Hell, look at the way they talked.

I'm all for returning to the principle that only Congress can declare
war. I'm also for confiscatory taxes to prevent family dynasties and
concentration of power at the top. *I'm for import duties to protect
domestic industry and for the abolition of standing armies. And the
pre-Marbury v Madison Supreme Court.

When you start pinin' for the good old days where do you stop?

And how, may we ask is it "that 210 years ago people were generally a
lot smarter than they are now" ? *I was always told that most people
(worldwide) were mostly illiterate until very recently. And how can we
sample a spoken recording of *such a time???

I think that the people of the time who *were* educated, without
knowing nearly so much as is known now, were far more philosophically
and classically trained as a rule. *Reason and logic were held in high
esteem, unlike these days when instinct seems to be making a comeback
and narrowly-focused hedonism is more prevalent.

However, you are right - the ranks of the illiterate and substantially
uneducated were legion - and for most vocations of the time it
probably was not critical anyway. *Formal education for farming,
blacksmithing, coopering, tailoring and etc. was apprenticeship.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Most people lived off the land they resided on until ( very roughly)
100-150 years ago. Village or parochial (in rural areas) education
could not hold a candle to what the contemporary city/town kids have
learned back in those days. Incidentally,one of the reasons why the
War between the States ended decisively was the superiority of
science,technology and education. And railroads. And telegraph. And
schools There is no substitute for knowledge.

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On 9/18/10 02:01 , wrote:
On Sep 18, 2:39 am, wrote:
On Sep 16, 10:56 pm, wrote:





On Sep 16, 9:44 am, wrote:

Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

But it's worse now. Multiple-thousand-page "laws" are passed by
legislators who never even bother to read them. And really, they
couldn't even if they wanted to -- there are too many. It's beyond
insane, beyond Kafkaesque. May the gods end it all soon.

With all good wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom.

Why stop with the Constitution? 210 years ago people were generally a
lot smarter than they are now. Hell, look at the way they talked.

I'm all for returning to the principle that only Congress can declare
war. I'm also for confiscatory taxes to prevent family dynasties and
concentration of power at the top. I'm for import duties to protect
domestic industry and for the abolition of standing armies. And the
pre-Marbury v Madison Supreme Court.

When you start pinin' for the good old days where do you stop?

And how, may we ask is it "that 210 years ago people were generally a
lot smarter than they are now" ? I was always told that most people
(worldwide) were mostly illiterate until very recently. And how can we
sample a spoken recording of such a time???

I think that the people of the time who *were* educated, without
knowing nearly so much as is known now, were far more philosophically
and classically trained as a rule. Reason and logic were held in high
esteem, unlike these days when instinct seems to be making a comeback
and narrowly-focused hedonism is more prevalent.

However, you are right - the ranks of the illiterate and substantially
uneducated were legion - and for most vocations of the time it
probably was not critical anyway. Formal education for farming,
blacksmithing, coopering, tailoring and etc. was apprenticeship.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Most people lived off the land they resided on until ( very roughly)
100-150 years ago. Village or parochial (in rural areas) education
could not hold a candle to what the contemporary city/town kids have
learned back in those days. Incidentally,one of the reasons why the
War between the States ended decisively was the superiority of
science,technology and education. And railroads. And telegraph. And
schools There is no substitute for knowledge.


Unless you have cable.

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