SPECIAL: Two Big Boom for USSR
 

On Sep 17, 3:50*pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:48*pm, dave wrote:

John Smith wrote:

I love when fools attempt to rewrite history ...

I love it when people believe the "conventional wisdom". It makes it
easier to manipulate them.

We bombed Japan TWICE to send a message to Joe Stalin. *Had nothing to
do with the Japanese, who were ready to surrender without us needing to
take ground.

Note - MacArthur's Post-War Occupation Intelligence
discover from the Japanese Military that the US's
prior estimates were low and the Japanese were
prepared ready to Fight more and longer; and the
causalities may have been doubled into the Millions.
The Japanese thinking was that the Japanese could
Fight the US & Allies to a stalemate on their Home
Islands and Win a Cease Fire and an Armistice
versus a Complete Surrender and Occupation by
the US & Allies. -wrt- N&S Korea later in 1953

~ RHF
*.

Dave the Message was to the Japanese
1 - We Will Use Our Nuclear Bombs
2 - We Will Sit back off-shore in Safety and
Not Invade for 6-Months to a Year and during
that time
3 - We Will Nuke Each and Everyone of your
Major Cities / Industrial Complexes destroying
and leveling them all killing most of your urban
population. {Yes it would be the Mass Genocide
of the Japanese -but- Saving a 100K or more
American Military Lives}
4 - You Have One Option : SURRENDER NOW [.]
-imho- The Japanese made the right choice.

NOTE - For the Japanese both Military and Civilian
to Die Fighting to Defend their Home Islands
would have been "an Honorable {Heroic} Death".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido
Where-as NOT being given the opportunity to
Heroically Fight; and simply being Nuked would
have been a useless death* with no honor.
* Not being allowed to Fight and Protect your
Family; your Home; your Country.

~ RHF

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RHF wrote:
On Sep 17, 3:50 pm, wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:48 pm, wrote:

John Smith wrote:

I love when fools attempt to rewrite history ...

I love it when people believe the "conventional wisdom". It makes it
easier to manipulate them.

We bombed Japan TWICE to send a message to Joe Stalin. Had nothing to
do with the Japanese, who were ready to surrender without us needing to
take ground.

Note - MacArthur's Post-War Occupation Intelligence
discover from the Japanese Military that the US's
prior estimates were low and the Japanese were
prepared ready to Fight more and longer; and the
causalities may have been doubled into the Millions.
The Japanese thinking was that the Japanese could
Fight the US& Allies to a stalemate on their Home
Islands and Win a Cease Fire and an Armistice
versus a Complete Surrender and Occupation by
the US& Allies. -wrt- N&S Korea later in 1953

~ RHF
.

Dave the Message was to the Japanese
1 - We Will Use Our Nuclear Bombs
2 - We Will Sit back off-shore in Safety and
Not Invade for 6-Months to a Year and during
that time
3 - We Will Nuke Each and Everyone of your
Major Cities / Industrial Complexes destroying
and leveling them all killing most of your urban
population. {Yes it would be the Mass Genocide
of the Japanese -but- Saving a 100K or more
American Military Lives}
4 - You Have One Option : SURRENDER NOW [.]
-imho- The Japanese made the right choice.

NOTE - For the Japanese both Military and Civilian
to Die Fighting to Defend their Home Islands
would have been "an Honorable {Heroic} Death".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido
Where-as NOT being given the opportunity to
Heroically Fight; and simply being Nuked would
have been a useless death* with no honor.
* Not being allowed to Fight and Protect your
Family; your Home; your Country.

~ RHF
.
.
Had nothing to do with the Japanese. We were showing Stalin we could
match his ruthlessness by attacking 2 civilian targets and incinerating
a quarter million people for no reason. The only way a nuclear
deterrent works is if others think you are insane enough to use it.

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On 9/19/2010 2:08 PM, dave wrote:

...
Had nothing to do with the Japanese. We were showing Stalin we could
match his ruthlessness by attacking 2 civilian targets and incinerating
a quarter million people for no reason. The only way a nuclear deterrent
works is if others think you are insane enough to use it.

Someone is insane enough to think we wouldn't, if given sufficient
reason? Geesh, we need to eliminate those people, they are a real danger!

Regards,
JS

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In article ,
says...
RHF wrote:
On Sep 17, 3:50 pm, wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:48 pm, wrote:

John Smith wrote:

I love when fools attempt to rewrite history ...

I love it when people believe the "conventional wisdom". It makes it
easier to manipulate them.

We bombed Japan TWICE to send a message to Joe Stalin. Had nothing to
do with the Japanese, who were ready to surrender without us needing to
take ground.

Note - MacArthur's Post-War Occupation Intelligence
discover from the Japanese Military that the US's
prior estimates were low and the Japanese were
prepared ready to Fight more and longer; and the
causalities may have been doubled into the Millions.
The Japanese thinking was that the Japanese could
Fight the US& Allies to a stalemate on their Home
Islands and Win a Cease Fire and an Armistice
versus a Complete Surrender and Occupation by
the US& Allies. -wrt- N&S Korea later in 1953

~ RHF
.

Dave the Message was to the Japanese
1 - We Will Use Our Nuclear Bombs
2 - We Will Sit back off-shore in Safety and
Not Invade for 6-Months to a Year and during
that time
3 - We Will Nuke Each and Everyone of your
Major Cities / Industrial Complexes destroying
and leveling them all killing most of your urban
population. {Yes it would be the Mass Genocide
of the Japanese -but- Saving a 100K or more
American Military Lives}
4 - You Have One Option : SURRENDER NOW [.]
-imho- The Japanese made the right choice.

NOTE - For the Japanese both Military and Civilian
to Die Fighting to Defend their Home Islands
would have been "an Honorable {Heroic} Death".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido
Where-as NOT being given the opportunity to
Heroically Fight; and simply being Nuked would
have been a useless death* with no honor.
* Not being allowed to Fight and Protect your
Family; your Home; your Country.

~ RHF
.
.
Had nothing to do with the Japanese. We were showing Stalin we could
match his ruthlessness by attacking 2 civilian targets and incinerating
a quarter million people for no reason. The only way a nuclear
deterrent works is if others think you are insane enough to use it.


If you think that was the main reason the bombs were used, you need to
hit the history books and learn a little.
--
BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!

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On Sep 20, 2:32*am, BDK wrote:
In article ,
says...





RHF wrote:
On Sep 17, 3:50 pm, *wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:48 pm, *wrote:

John Smith wrote:

I love when fools attempt to rewrite history ...

I love it when people believe the "conventional wisdom". It makes it
easier to manipulate them.

We bombed Japan TWICE to send a message to Joe Stalin. *Had nothing to
do with the Japanese, who were ready to surrender without us needing to
take ground.

Note - MacArthur's Post-War Occupation Intelligence
discover from the Japanese Military that the US's
prior estimates were low and the Japanese were
prepared ready to Fight more and longer; and the
causalities may have been doubled into the Millions.
The Japanese thinking was that the Japanese could
Fight the US& *Allies to a stalemate on their Home
Islands and Win a Cease Fire and an Armistice
versus a Complete Surrender and Occupation by
the US& *Allies. -wrt- N&S Korea later in 1953

~ RHF
* .

Dave the Message was to the Japanese
1 - We Will Use Our Nuclear Bombs
2 - We Will Sit back off-shore in Safety and
Not Invade for 6-Months to a Year and during
that time
3 - We Will Nuke Each and Everyone of your
Major Cities / Industrial Complexes destroying
and leveling them all killing most of your urban
population. {Yes it would be the Mass Genocide
of the Japanese -but- Saving a 100K or more
American Military Lives}
4 - You Have One Option : SURRENDER NOW [.]
-imho- The Japanese made the right choice.

NOTE - For the Japanese both Military and Civilian
to Die Fighting to Defend their Home Islands
would have been "an Honorable {Heroic} Death".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido
Where-as NOT being given the opportunity to
Heroically Fight; and simply being Nuked would
have been a useless death* with no honor.
* Not being allowed to Fight and Protect your
Family; your Home; your Country.

~ RHF
* .
* .
Had nothing to do with the Japanese. We were showing Stalin we could
match his ruthlessness by attacking 2 civilian targets and incinerating
a quarter million people for no reason. *The only way a nuclear
deterrent works is if others think you are insane enough to use it.

If you think that was the main reason the bombs were used, you need to
hit the history books and learn a little.
--
BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Main reason: it was done in the name of science ! Why use guinea
pigs? Wars have provided countless opportunities to conduct
diabolical experiments. BTW Stalin had his own atomic program by
1945 . (Why go nuts in the labs when anything can be stolen from your
adversary) .

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In article 985a3982-cd39-40d9-b78c-4f5f8aaf5694
@q2g2000vbk.googlegroups.com, says...
On Sep 20, 2:32*am, BDK wrote:
In article ,
says...





RHF wrote:
On Sep 17, 3:50 pm, *wrote:
On Sep 17, 4:48 pm, *wrote:

John Smith wrote:

I love when fools attempt to rewrite history ...

I love it when people believe the "conventional wisdom". It makes it
easier to manipulate them.

We bombed Japan TWICE to send a message to Joe Stalin. *Had nothing to
do with the Japanese, who were ready to surrender without us needing to
take ground.

Note - MacArthur's Post-War Occupation Intelligence
discover from the Japanese Military that the US's
prior estimates were low and the Japanese were
prepared ready to Fight more and longer; and the
causalities may have been doubled into the Millions.
The Japanese thinking was that the Japanese could
Fight the US& *Allies to a stalemate on their Home
Islands and Win a Cease Fire and an Armistice
versus a Complete Surrender and Occupation by
the US& *Allies. -wrt- N&S Korea later in 1953

~ RHF
* .

Dave the Message was to the Japanese
1 - We Will Use Our Nuclear Bombs
2 - We Will Sit back off-shore in Safety and
Not Invade for 6-Months to a Year and during
that time
3 - We Will Nuke Each and Everyone of your
Major Cities / Industrial Complexes destroying
and leveling them all killing most of your urban
population. {Yes it would be the Mass Genocide
of the Japanese -but- Saving a 100K or more
American Military Lives}
4 - You Have One Option : SURRENDER NOW [.]
-imho- The Japanese made the right choice.

NOTE - For the Japanese both Military and Civilian
to Die Fighting to Defend their Home Islands
would have been "an Honorable {Heroic} Death".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido
Where-as NOT being given the opportunity to
Heroically Fight; and simply being Nuked would
have been a useless death* with no honor.
* Not being allowed to Fight and Protect your
Family; your Home; your Country.

~ RHF
* .
* .
Had nothing to do with the Japanese. We were showing Stalin we could
match his ruthlessness by attacking 2 civilian targets and incinerating
a quarter million people for no reason. *The only way a nuclear
deterrent works is if others think you are insane enough to use it.

If you think that was the main reason the bombs were used, you need to
hit the history books and learn a little.
--
BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Main reason: it was done in the name of science ! Why use guinea
pigs? Wars have provided countless opportunities to conduct
diabolical experiments. BTW Stalin had his own atomic program by
1945 . (Why go nuts in the labs when anything can be stolen from your
adversary) .


BZZZZT! Try again. It was mostly done to save allied lives that would
have been lost in an invasion, and to end the war as quickly as was
possible. Even then it took TWO bombs to convince them.
--
BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!

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On 9/20/2010 12:03 AM, wrote:

...
Main reason: it was done in the name of science ! Why use guinea
pigs? Wars have provided countless opportunities to conduct
diabolical experiments. BTW Stalin had his own atomic program by
1945 . (Why go nuts in the labs when anything can be stolen from your
adversary) .

I know the children today are confused and have no idea of what happened
back then. I know the weirdos who have infiltrated the schools teach
their own agenda which fails to even slightly resemble the truth. It is
sad, so very, very sad ...

However, back then, a person had to save the tin cans which they just
prepared their food from. They had to save their toothpaste tubes.
There was such a shortage of things, you had stamps and certain days you
could buy such things as coffee, tires for your car, etc. The shortages
and conditions which the people living though the war had to tolerate
would be shocking to the children today.

Life was centered about that war effort. People had weapons are were
ready to defend their homes, families, friends, property, etc. when
foreign forces got to our borders. Like someone has mentioned, someone
needs to get ahold of some history books which tell what really happened
and was going on ... I am old enough that my grandparents lived through
these times, had memories, had pictures ... all the children seem to
have today are false ideas of what it was all about, about what really
happened ... sad, so very, very sad ... as those who don't remember are
doomed to repeat it ... a real shame when my grandparents fought this
terrible war so that the children coming along now wouldn't have to go
through such things ...

Ignorance really does look disgusting ... especially when that ignorance
causes those inflicted to appear like un-thankful idiot-morons ...

Regards,
JS

SPECIAL: Constitution intentionally vague
 

On Sep 18, 8:43*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 9/18/10 02:01 , wrote:





On Sep 18, 2:39 am, *wrote:
On Sep 16, 10:56 pm, wrote:

On Sep 16, 9:44 am, *wrote:

Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

But it's worse now. Multiple-thousand-page "laws" are passed by
legislators who never even bother to read them. And really, they
couldn't even if they wanted to -- there are too many. It's beyond
insane, beyond Kafkaesque. May the gods end it all soon.

With all good wishes,

Kevin Alfred Strom.

Why stop with the Constitution? *210 years ago people were generally a
lot smarter than they are now. Hell, look at the way they talked.

I'm all for returning to the principle that only Congress can declare
war. I'm also for confiscatory taxes to prevent family dynasties and
concentration of power at the top. *I'm for import duties to protect
domestic industry and for the abolition of standing armies. And the
pre-Marbury v Madison Supreme Court.

When you start pinin' for the good old days where do you stop?

And how, may we ask is it "that 210 years ago people were generally a
lot smarter than they are now" ? *I was always told that most people
(worldwide) were mostly illiterate until very recently. And how can we
sample a spoken recording of *such a time???

I think that the people of the time who *were* educated, without
knowing nearly so much as is known now, were far more philosophically
and classically trained as a rule. *Reason and logic were held in high
esteem, unlike these days when instinct seems to be making a comeback
and narrowly-focused hedonism is more prevalent.

However, you are right - the ranks of the illiterate and substantially
uneducated were legion - and for most vocations of the time it
probably was not critical anyway. *Formal education for farming,
blacksmithing, coopering, tailoring and etc. was apprenticeship.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Most people lived off the land they resided on until *( very roughly)
100-150 years ago. *Village or parochial (in rural areas) education
could not hold a candle to what the contemporary city/town kids have
learned back in those days. *Incidentally,one of the reasons why the
War between the States ended decisively was the superiority of
science,technology and education. And railroads. And telegraph. And
schools There is no substitute for knowledge.

* *Unless you have cable.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Only RG-58. And some RG-8.

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On Sep 20, 7:13*am, John Smith wrote:
On 9/20/2010 12:03 AM, wrote:

...
Main reason: it was done in the name of science ! *Why use guinea
pigs? *Wars have provided countless opportunities to conduct
diabolical experiments. BTW Stalin had his own atomic program by
1945 . (Why go nuts in the labs when anything can be stolen from your
adversary) .

I know the children today are confused and have no idea of what happened
back then. *I know the weirdos who have infiltrated the schools teach
their own agenda which fails to even slightly resemble the truth. *It is
sad, so very, very sad ...

However, back then, a person had to save the tin cans which they just
prepared their food from. *They had to save their toothpaste tubes.
There was such a shortage of things, you had stamps and certain days you
could buy such things as coffee, tires for your car, etc. *The shortages
and conditions which the people living though the war had to tolerate
would be shocking to the children today.

Life was centered about that war effort. *People had weapons are were
ready to defend their homes, families, friends, property, etc. when
foreign forces got to our borders. *Like someone has mentioned, someone
needs to get ahold of some history books which tell what really happened
and was going on ... I am old enough that my grandparents lived through
these times, had memories, had pictures ... all the children seem to
have today are false ideas of what it was all about, about what really
happened ... sad, so very, very sad ... as those who don't remember are
doomed to repeat it ... a real shame when my grandparents fought this
terrible war so that the children coming along now wouldn't have to go
through such things ...

Ignorance really does look disgusting ... especially when that ignorance
causes those inflicted to appear like un-thankful idiot-morons ...

Regards,
JS

Sometimes,I wonder if the weirdos haven't penetrated in almost every
school there is !

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