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(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 20, 3:21*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/20/2010 11:54 AM, dave wrote: * ... No. I don't give a **** about saving animals. It's about keeping the Earth habitable for my spawn. It's about making a small difference instead of cursing the darkness. It's about me being part of the solution, rather than whining about people who care. Worry about the government taxing your children into indebted servitude which will last past their lifetimes ... then sweat the small stuff ... Regards, JS That's gonna happen anyway, unless the government defaults. At this point in time, with an accumulated $13T debt, there ain't a lot of choice. If you don't raise taxes, it only staves off the inevitable. |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 20, 3:18*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/20/2010 8:20 AM, bpnjensen wrote: ... That's what I do ;-) So wha power brokers, exactly, are benefitting from Dave's choices? The ones consuming daves portion, of course ... Regards, JS I give up. You lost me, unless you are talking about the people who deal in the alternatives he chooses instead - which are quite arguably not very "powerful." |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On 9/20/2010 11:45 AM, dave wrote:
... How about you give up meat 3 times a week? I have a nephew with a large cattle ranch in the foothills of California .... we get our beef at close to cost ... indeed, most xmases, guess what the present is? Regards, JS |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
Generally speaking, I agree with a lot of your posts. However, I think
on this one, you are missing a few points, so I will to try and politely address them. On 9/19/2010 3:54 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote: Well, it's not energy [from volcanoes] per se. It's the gaseous droplets and particulate matter ejected into the air by volcanoes. Absolute FACT #1: Carbon dioxide IS a "greenhouse" gas (lets solar heat in but won't let it escape). On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: Actually, cO2 is rather benign and not any real thing to worry about. I don't know about "benign"; above a certain percentage, carbon dioxide will kill you...but that wasn't my point. The point IS that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and as more and more CO2 is introduced to the atmosphere, more and more solar energy is captured, thus raising the earth's temperature. On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: Anyone growing marijuana or aquarium plants, and supplying them with excess cO2, knows the voracious appetite of plants for carbon dioxide. The effect of adding more cO2 is very dramatic on plant growth. When we finally find another fuel source, the plants will clean up this problem very quickly. All life on this planet is carbon based, carbon is a nutrient, not a poison. Again, no one said CO2 is a poison per se (even though it -will- kill you above a certain concentration). The problem with your plant theory is at least two fold: 1) More and more green areas are being "developed" (paved over). 2) The rain forests are disappearing at an alarming rate. If your plant theory is such a miracle cure (and "cleaning up the problem very quickly"), why do the ice samples show CO2 is INCREASING at such a rapid rate? All those plants that were going to save us must be loafing. ;-) On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: However, there is one detrimental effect of cO2. It is dissolving in the oceans which provide a natural buffering (absorbing) medium. This is causing a slight rise in the acidity of the oceans, and particularly near shorelines, and this is detrimental on the shells of mussels, clams, etc. There are probably other problems with the excess cO2 that I am not aware of, as this is not a great matter of concern to me. You are correct...and there -are- other problems that -should- be of concern to you (Law of Unintended Consequences). Bottom line is we (the world population) cannot just keep pumping bazillions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, year after year, and not expect to have negative consequences. On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: More nuclear plants would be a good answer, until we find the next energy source, however, there is even more opposition to the use of nuclear power plants than coal/oil fired plants. One thing is for sure, nuclear will only be a temporary solution when we run out of oil/coal, as this is in limited supply also. I almost agree with you, but unfortunately, with your nuclear power solution, you overlook two critical issues: 1) Nuclear fuel is extremely energy intensive to produce. Takes a lot of time and power to run those centrifuges...and due to fear of nuclear proliferation, breeder reactors may not be on the horizon any time soon. 2) We have to live with and safely store the waste from the nuclear power plants for a while, like say, 50,000 years or so. Regards, Joe |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On 9/20/2010 5:25 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
... Regards, Joe Well, yeah, you have to stop destroying the plants, at sometime, if you want them to start harvesting the cO2. However, there is a problem which has not gained widespread attention yet. Algae blooms, due to the lack of enough foliage on land to absorb the nutrients, and the nutrients are hitting waterways, are becoming common and threatening to some aquatic life. This will be the "next problem" someone wants to be paid to fix ... it never ends ... but, anyway, the algae will be after that cO2, if nothing else is. Regards, JS |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 19, 11:16*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/19/2010 8:09 PM, wrote: ... Robinson Crusoe . * Survival *and total independence from world's economic cycles ! . Survival this time, most likely, will be prying the cold dead fingers off a gold bar of one of the rich elite which has just been terminated. Or, in the opposite direction, stealing a tomato from someones garden in the darkest portion of the night ... Or, trading a few rounds of ammo for a can of stew ... Regards, JS |
(OT) : Say "YES" to an American CO2 Enrichment Tax {Re-GreeningAmerican & Investing in the USA}
On Sep 20, 10:08*am, dave wrote:
John Smith wrote: 'Special Dave',rated by the rich and powerful. Watching people sacrifice the future of their children, and indenturing their children in indebted servitude to pay for the lifestyles of the rich and famous seems like the ultimate form of child abuse I can imagine. Tell it to the people who cut taxes and went to war. They ran up a trillion and a half dollars more debt from 2001-2009. They did it "off budget" meaning that when the real cost was merged with the general fund, we were suddenly an extra trillion in the hole. If you think Obama's a big spender, what do you think of Bush? Don't forget St. Ronald and papa Bush . |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 20, 9:41*am, John Smith wrote:
On 9/20/2010 7:01 AM, dave wrote: ... How about we quit eating meat? That's the fastest, most effective means of making a big difference. That begins an interesting thought. *How, we Americans, greatly extended our lifespans, health and well being from grazing humongous amounts of beef and having the American diet centered around this excellent source of protein. Now that the rich find that the population is too expensive to feed a diet of beef to, they wish to convert us over to a diet of rice, veges and tofu. *Some idiots will actually begin touting this as desirable! If you ever doubt the lack of intelligence in a good portion of the population, you just gave a good example of a reminder ... You go eat that chit ... leaves more steak for me! Regards, JS BTW, Schicklgruber was a vegetarian, not a well publicized fact ! |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 20, 5:25*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Generally speaking, I agree with a lot of your posts. However, I think on this one, you are missing a few points, so I will to try and politely address them. On 9/19/2010 3:54 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote: Well, it's not energy [from volcanoes] per se. It's the gaseous droplets and particulate matter ejected into the air by volcanoes. Absolute FACT #1: Carbon dioxide IS a "greenhouse" gas (lets solar heat in but won't let it escape). On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: Actually, cO2 is rather benign and not any real thing to worry about. I don't know about "benign"; above a certain percentage, carbon dioxide will kill you...but that wasn't my point. The point IS that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and as more and more CO2 is introduced to the atmosphere, more and more solar energy is captured, thus raising the earth's temperature. On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: Anyone growing marijuana or aquarium plants, and supplying them with excess cO2, knows the voracious appetite of plants for carbon dioxide. The effect of adding more cO2 is very dramatic on plant growth. When we finally find another fuel source, the plants will clean up this problem very quickly. All life on this planet is carbon based, carbon is a nutrient, not a poison. Again, no one said CO2 is a poison per se (even though it -will- kill you above a certain concentration). The problem with your plant theory is at least two fold: 1) More and more green areas are being "developed" (paved over). 2) The rain forests are disappearing at an alarming rate. If your plant theory is such a miracle cure (and "cleaning up the problem very quickly"), why do the ice samples show CO2 is INCREASING at such a rapid rate? All those plants that were going to save us must be loafing. * ;-) On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: However, there is one detrimental effect of cO2. It is dissolving in the oceans which provide a natural buffering (absorbing) medium. This is causing a slight rise in the acidity of the oceans, and particularly near shorelines, and this is detrimental on the shells of mussels, clams, etc. There are probably other problems with the excess cO2 that I am not aware of, as this is not a great matter of concern to me. You are correct...and there -are- other problems that -should- be of concern to you (Law of Unintended Consequences). Bottom line is we (the world population) cannot just keep pumping bazillions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, year after year, and not expect to have negative consequences. On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: More nuclear plants would be a good answer, until we find the next energy source, however, there is even more opposition to the use of nuclear power plants than coal/oil fired plants. One thing is for sure, nuclear will only be a temporary solution when we run out of oil/coal, as this is in limited supply also. I almost agree with you, but unfortunately, with your nuclear power solution, you overlook two critical issues: 1) Nuclear fuel is extremely energy intensive to produce. Takes a lot of time and power to run those centrifuges...and due to fear of nuclear proliferation, breeder reactors may not be on the horizon any time soon. 2) We have to live with and safely store the waste from the nuclear power plants for a while, like say, 50,000 years or so. Regards, Joe Luckily, there is Thorium nuclear. A SUPERB alternative to ordinary U or Pu fission, very plentiful fuel (about 1,000 years' worth), much shorter-lived waste ( a couple hundred vs a couple hundred thou), technology already there, India & France among others will have these online in a couple of years, a great stopgap until we can move onward to efficient solar and/or Fusion. All we have to do overcome the immense influence of the fossil fuel industry and we Americans, too, could advance into the 21st century... |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 20, 5:18*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On Sep 19, 3:54 pm, Joe from *wrote: - Think hundreds of millions of Chinese and Indians - trading in their bicycles for cars. * :-( On 9/19/2010 8:14 PM, RHF wrote: So are you advocating Stopping China and India from Industrializing any more . . . or just having the USA and Europe De-Industrialize ? Nowhere did I say either of those things. Just putting up a red flag about what is looming on the horizon. Please don't blame the messenger. 1) It WILL happen as India and China's middle class grows. 2) Thanks to the world press reporting on how horribly bad China's pollution was during the Beijing Olympics, I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling that the Chinese (or Indians) will be able to handle the pollution from millions of additional autos. They already cannot. Life REALLY sucks in China's cities. |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 20, 4:48*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote: How about we quit eating meat? That's the fastest, most effective means of making a big difference. Seems that because the issues facing the planet are more related to overpopulation than overgrowth of vegetation, wouldn't it make more sense to eat off some of that excessive population? [Soylent Green] -- Operator Bob Echo Charlie 42 Now you're talkin'! Who volunteers to be the main course? |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On 9/20/10 23:30 , bpnjensen wrote:
Luckily, there is Thorium nuclear. A SUPERB alternative to ordinary U or Pu fission, very plentiful fuel (about 1,000 years' worth), much shorter-lived waste ( a couple hundred vs a couple hundred thou), technology already there, India& France among others will have these online in a couple of years, a great stopgap until we can move onward to efficient solar and/or Fusion. After you mentioned this, what, a few months ago, I did some extensive research into Thorium nuclear power. What I found was quite illuminating. And could, if implemented, alter the paradigm for nuclear power generation. Power plants could be practically and efficiently scalable, to grow with increasing demand instead of reaching exhaustion and then being replaced. They could be smaller, less intrusive, to meet with the aesthetic expectations of a modern environment. And the reaction is self regulating. The expensive, complex system for monitoring and throttling the reaction would be less massive, emergency systems could be less cumbersome, and the containment and environmental clear areas could be far smaller. With waste recyclable, and much of it reusable. Meaning, that every community could, conceivably, have nuclear power generation, and it could be transparent to the citizens, at far less cost per kilowatt-hour. Bridging to a trough system of solar collection, and, as they do in Israel, storing the heat in molten flouride salts underground for nighttime production, could put some enormous solar power generation on stream in only a few years' time. If fusion doesn't reach that bridge first. Bridging the gap between coal/gas generation today, with Thorium nuclear, until there is practical solar or fusion production, could, conceivably, put an end to rolling brown/blackouts, a sharp reduction in energy costs at the consumer level, with a transparent, and naturally evolving grid, and little, if any downside to the production. If it weren't for the politics, this could be exciting. |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 20, 9:41 am, John wrote: On 9/20/2010 7:01 AM, dave wrote: ... How about we quit eating meat? That's the fastest, most effective means of making a big difference. That begins an interesting thought. How, we Americans, greatly extended our lifespans, health and well being from grazing humongous amounts of beef and having the American diet centered around this excellent source of protein. Now that the rich find that the population is too expensive to feed a diet of beef to, they wish to convert us over to a diet of rice, veges and tofu. Some idiots will actually begin touting this as desirable! If you ever doubt the lack of intelligence in a good portion of the population, you just gave a good example of a reminder ... You go eat that chit ... leaves more steak for me! Regards, JS On 9/21/2010 12:22 AM, wrote: BTW, Schicklgruber was a vegetarian, not a well publicized fact ! Hah! That probably explains why his health was so bad at the end... |
(OT) : Do it to save yourself (to Hell w/ the kids)
Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote: How about you give up meat 3 times a week? I haven't had any meat today...yet there's a slow cooker going as I type and as the scents waft into this room I'm about to log off and go chow down. I made fried catfish sandwiches last night. I have fish quite a bit. “Following an anti-inflammatory diet can help counteract the chronic inflammation that is a root cause of many serious diseases, including those that become more frequent as people age. It is a way of selecting and preparing foods based on science that can help people achieve and maintain optimum health over their lifetime.” -Dr. Weil http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02995...d-Pyramid.html |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 21, 5:30*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 9/20/10 23:30 , bpnjensen wrote: Luckily, there is Thorium nuclear. *A SUPERB alternative to ordinary U or Pu fission, very plentiful fuel (about 1,000 years' worth), much shorter-lived waste ( a couple hundred vs a couple hundred thou), technology already there, India& *France among others will have these online in a couple of years, a great stopgap until we can move onward to efficient solar and/or Fusion. * *After you mentioned this, what, a few months ago, I did some extensive research into Thorium nuclear power. * *What I found was quite illuminating. And could, if implemented, alter the paradigm for nuclear power generation. * *Power plants could be practically and efficiently scalable, to grow with increasing demand instead of reaching exhaustion and then being replaced. They could be smaller, less intrusive, to meet with the aesthetic expectations of a modern environment. And the reaction is self regulating. The expensive, complex system for monitoring and throttling the reaction would be less massive, emergency systems could be less cumbersome, and the containment and environmental clear areas could be far smaller. With waste recyclable, and much of it reusable. * *Meaning, that every community could, conceivably, have nuclear power generation, and it could be transparent to the citizens, at far less cost per kilowatt-hour. * *Bridging to a trough system of solar collection, and, as they do in Israel, storing the heat in molten flouride salts underground for nighttime production, could put some enormous solar power generation on stream in only a few years' time. If fusion doesn't reach that bridge first. * *Bridging the gap between coal/gas generation today, with Thorium nuclear, until there is practical solar or fusion production, could, conceivably, put an end to rolling brown/blackouts, a sharp reduction in energy costs at the consumer level, with a transparent, and naturally evolving grid, and little, if any downside to the production. * *If it weren't for the politics, this could be exciting. Beautifully stated, Peter :-) |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 21, 5:43*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On Sep 20, 9:41 am, John *wrote: On 9/20/2010 7:01 AM, dave wrote: ... How about we quit eating meat? That's the fastest, most effective means of making a big difference. That begins an interesting thought. *How, we Americans, greatly extended our lifespans, health and well being from grazing humongous amounts of beef and having the American diet centered around this excellent source of protein. Now that the rich find that the population is too expensive to feed a diet of beef to, they wish to convert us over to a diet of rice, veges and tofu. *Some idiots will actually begin touting this as desirable! If you ever doubt the lack of intelligence in a good portion of the population, you just gave a good example of a reminder ... You go eat that chit ... leaves more steak for me! Regards, JS On 9/21/2010 12:22 AM, wrote: BTW, Schicklgruber was a vegetarian, not a well publicized fact ! Hah! That probably explains why his health was so bad at the end...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well - lots of vegetarians live very long healthy lives, so that takes care of that issue. |
(OT) : The Sun Is Having Hot Flashes
Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote: The IGY solar max was a once in a lifetime event. Sounds like a trend line conclusion based on a too low sample rate. IOW: How many lifetimes are you using in your calculus? Cycle 24 is going to be below average. Same historical analysis the you seem to be using claimed otherwise. I was talking about MY lifetime. Safe bet, it turns out. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...pot-number.png http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/SC24/index.html (scroll down) |
(OT) : The Modest Proposal
Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote: How about we quit eating meat? That's the fastest, most effective means of making a big difference. Seems that because the issues facing the planet are more related to overpopulation than overgrowth of vegetation, wouldn't it make more sense to eat off some of that excessive population? [Soylent Green] http://www.art-bin.com/art/omodest.html |
(OT) : The Downside of the Internet
Joe from Kokomo wrote:
1) It WILL happen as India and China's middle class grows. pollution from millions of additional autos. |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Joe from Kokomo wrote: For those that say we are getting cooler, they may be right. The very latest solar data shows that the sun may be "slowing down" (for lack of a better term) and that this will give us another cooling Maunder Minimum as experienced circa 1600-1700. On 9/20/2010 9:39 AM, dave wrote: Even though the sun is relatively quiet, 2010 is the hottest year on record so far. What will happen when the sun returns to normal? Non radio propagation answer: Well, you could try and stake a claim to an ice floe in the Arctic Ocean...and hope it doesn't melt out from under you. I'm opening a chain of convenience stores on the North Coast of Canada. |
(OT) : The Case for Nuking Texas
bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 20, 5:25 pm, Joe from wrote: Generally speaking, I agree with a lot of your posts. However, I think on this one, you are missing a few points, so I will to try and politely address them. On 9/19/2010 3:54 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote: Well, it's not energy [from volcanoes] per se. It's the gaseous droplets and particulate matter ejected into the air by volcanoes. Absolute FACT #1: Carbon dioxide IS a "greenhouse" gas (lets solar heat in but won't let it escape). On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: Actually, cO2 is rather benign and not any real thing to worry about. I don't know about "benign"; above a certain percentage, carbon dioxide will kill you...but that wasn't my point. The point IS that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and as more and more CO2 is introduced to the atmosphere, more and more solar energy is captured, thus raising the earth's temperature. On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: Anyone growing marijuana or aquarium plants, and supplying them with excess cO2, knows the voracious appetite of plants for carbon dioxide. The effect of adding more cO2 is very dramatic on plant growth. When we finally find another fuel source, the plants will clean up this problem very quickly. All life on this planet is carbon based, carbon is a nutrient, not a poison. Again, no one said CO2 is a poison per se (even though it -will- kill you above a certain concentration). The problem with your plant theory is at least two fold: 1) More and more green areas are being "developed" (paved over). 2) The rain forests are disappearing at an alarming rate. If your plant theory is such a miracle cure (and "cleaning up the problem very quickly"), why do the ice samples show CO2 is INCREASING at such a rapid rate? All those plants that were going to save us must be loafing. ;-) On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: However, there is one detrimental effect of cO2. It is dissolving in the oceans which provide a natural buffering (absorbing) medium. This is causing a slight rise in the acidity of the oceans, and particularly near shorelines, and this is detrimental on the shells of mussels, clams, etc. There are probably other problems with the excess cO2 that I am not aware of, as this is not a great matter of concern to me. You are correct...and there -are- other problems that -should- be of concern to you (Law of Unintended Consequences). Bottom line is we (the world population) cannot just keep pumping bazillions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, year after year, and not expect to have negative consequences. On 9/19/2010 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: More nuclear plants would be a good answer, until we find the next energy source, however, there is even more opposition to the use of nuclear power plants than coal/oil fired plants. One thing is for sure, nuclear will only be a temporary solution when we run out of oil/coal, as this is in limited supply also. I almost agree with you, but unfortunately, with your nuclear power solution, you overlook two critical issues: 1) Nuclear fuel is extremely energy intensive to produce. Takes a lot of time and power to run those centrifuges...and due to fear of nuclear proliferation, breeder reactors may not be on the horizon any time soon. 2) We have to live with and safely store the waste from the nuclear power plants for a while, like say, 50,000 years or so. Regards, Joe Luckily, there is Thorium nuclear. A SUPERB alternative to ordinary U or Pu fission, very plentiful fuel (about 1,000 years' worth), much shorter-lived waste ( a couple hundred vs a couple hundred thou), technology already there, India& France among others will have these online in a couple of years, a great stopgap until we can move onward to efficient solar and/or Fusion. All we have to do overcome the immense influence of the fossil fuel industry and we Americans, too, could advance into the 21st century... |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On 9/21/2010 12:30 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
Luckily, there is Thorium nuclear. A SUPERB alternative to ordinary U or Pu fission, very plentiful fuel (about 1,000 years' worth), much shorter-lived waste ( a couple hundred vs a couple hundred thou), technology already there, India& France among others will have these online in a couple of years, a great stopgap until we can move onward to efficient solar and/or Fusion. The good news is...Thorium sounds like good news. The bad news may be...it isn't here yet, and typical of any brand new, unproven technology, it probably will have "growing pains". |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{...
American nuke Warheads are MADE in Texas.
Arrah, T'aint Nobody going to nuke Texas. Mississippi either, why would anybody want to (Charlie Rangel ~ Why would anybody want to live in Mississippi?) nuke this old backwater hick State of Mississippi? Get your head screwed on Right. cuhulin |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On 9/21/10 10:46 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 9/21/2010 12:30 AM, bpnjensen wrote: Luckily, there is Thorium nuclear. A SUPERB alternative to ordinary U or Pu fission, very plentiful fuel (about 1,000 years' worth), much shorter-lived waste ( a couple hundred vs a couple hundred thou), technology already there, India& France among others will have these online in a couple of years, a great stopgap until we can move onward to efficient solar and/or Fusion. The good news is...Thorium sounds like good news. The bad news may be...it isn't here yet, and typical of any brand new, unproven technology, it probably will have "growing pains". Had there been a military application at the time, Thorium nuclear would have eclipsed the introduction of Ra-Pu nuclear. It's been around that long. The only reason Thorium nuclear didn't take off at the time, is that Thorium can't be used to make bombs. And it's hardly unproven technology. The Navy has been using it for decades. |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
bpnjensen wrote:
[Soylent Green] -- Operator Bob Echo Charlie 42 Now you're talkin'! Who volunteers to be the main course? Won't work. Humans have been unfit for human consumption for decades. Seriously. I read that in the '70s. mike |
(OT) : Thinking of Pseudo-Science and the Global Warming toClimate Change to Global Climate Disruption -Re-Branding-
On Sep 20, 7:11 am, dave wrote:
- - - BpnJ -wrote- - - - RHFs arguments use gut instinct and common sense, - - - when neither one is reliable in matters of science. - - RHF -wrote- - - BpnJ - ? matters of science ? - Dave -wrote- - Yes. Science. 'Special Dave' - More like Science-Fiction -wrt- Scientific Fraud -aka- Doctoring The Data - Your "climategate" was a creation of big oil. Ah 'Special Dave' the Evil "Big Oil: Boggy Man -aka- The Blame "Big Oil" Blame Game 'Special Dave' "ClimateGate" = 'WaterGate' {Corruption & Evil} -translation- Prez Nixon = Prez Obama {Corruption & Evil} -translation- Nixon Regime = Obama Regime {Corruption & Evil} OBTW - 'Special Dave' didn't you get the OWH* Memo or listen to the web-ring-call that directed everyone NEVER to Use any "_____Gate" Event Code Name for any Corrupt {Criminal} happening during the Regime of Prez Obama ? -reason- Any reference to a "_____Gate" brings up the Image of the Political Corruption and Criminal Activities of "WaterGate" Scandal, Prez Nixon and the Nixon Regime and thus allowing that well-known past Major Political and Criminal Scandal to be 'Linked' to the current event; and therefore to Prez Obama, the OWH* and the Obama Regime. -attention- 'Special Dave' henceforth Do NOT Be Using Any "_____Gate" Event Code Names [.] * The Obama-White-House { Truth-Be-Told : This 'OBTW' Is Made-Up and "BS" : NO Memo Was Ever Written & NO Web-Ring-Call was ever made. } - The quotes were taken out of context, 'Special Dave' - ? The quotes ? = Admissions of Guilt. -and- Admissions of Misrepresenting the Data. -fyi- 'the context' is "The Context" - were not part of any official documents, 'Special Dave' - ? official documents ? They Truly Represent the Whole Complete Record and Demonstrate the Clear Intent and Payola Motivation of the Scientist to Conspire to Misrepresent the Data. - and ultimately proved nothing, 'Special Dave' - ? proved nothing ? They Clearly Indicate that the Data was Misrepresented and the Motivation was Continued Funding of the so call 'scientific-work' {Greed -aka- Payola}. [ nts : Misrepresent Fake Fraud Criminal ] -wrt- Pseudo-Science and "Climate-Gate" - except that some people will wrap their lips around - any sausage dangled in front of them. 'Special Dave' -says- "some people will wrap their lips around any sausage dangled in front of them." Oops - 'Special Dave' -is-that-a- 'Special Dave' "Special" !?! 'special dave' - 'the obama' make me do it ;;-}} ~ RHF |
(OT) : Do it to save yourself (to Hell w/ the kids)
On Sep 21, 10:50*am, dave wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote: dave wrote: I made fried catfish sandwiches last night. I have fish quite a bit. I like the cajun fried catfish filets from Popeyes. Popeye's rocks. A 25 mile round trip from here. No Long John Silver's anywhere in town. -*I have a 9" Lodge skillet with fishy olive oil - that I never drain and rarely screen. - Adds a special something to the fried fish. Do you 'coat' your Catfish ? -if-so- You should at least Filter the ' fishy olive oil' between uses; and get rid of the Cancerous by-products* building-up in the Oil. * your 'special something' Better is to Rinse the Inside Cooking Surface of the Pan with Hot Water Only {No Soap}; then Wipe it down; and apply a light coat of Olive Oil. |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{...
Dan Modisett at WLBT TV news, he just now apologized to any Hyena (and
there a photo of a rabid Hyena) that that other guy might have offended.It was about those people going on those crime sprees around here, acting like Hyenas. http://www.devilfinder.com Dan Modisett WLBT cuhulin |
(OT) : Take Life One 'Pork Chop' At A Time & Be Good To Your Vegetarians
On Sep 21, 7:26*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 21, 5:43*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On Sep 20, 9:41 am, John *wrote: On 9/20/2010 7:01 AM, dave wrote: ... How about we quit eating meat? That's the fastest, most effective means of making a big difference. That begins an interesting thought. *How, we Americans, greatly extended our lifespans, health and well being from grazing humongous amounts of beef and having the American diet centered around this excellent source of protein. Now that the rich find that the population is too expensive to feed a diet of beef to, they wish to convert us over to a diet of rice, veges and tofu. *Some idiots will actually begin touting this as desirable! If you ever doubt the lack of intelligence in a good portion of the population, you just gave a good example of a reminder ... You go eat that chit ... leaves more steak for me! Regards, JS On 9/21/2010 12:22 AM, wrote: BTW, Schicklgruber was a vegetarian, not a well publicized fact ! Hah! That probably explains why his health was so bad at the end...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - Well - lots of vegetarians live very long healthy - lives, so that takes care of that issue. I happen to like Vegetarians . . . Cows {Hamburgers} is Vegetarians ! Pigs {Sausage} is Vegetarians ! Chickens {Wings} is Vegetarians ! Sheep {Lamb Chops} is Vegetarians ! HUMmm All Good* Vegetarians ! ~ RHF * Be Good To Your Vegetarians -and- They Will Be Good To You :o) |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 20, 4:48*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote: How about we quit eating meat? That's the fastest, most effective means of making a big difference. - Seems that because the issues facing the planet - are more related to overpopulation than overgrowth - of vegetation, wouldn't it make more sense to eat - off some of that excessive population? |
(OT) : Take Life One 'Pork Chop' At A Time & Be Good To Your Vegetarians
On Sep 21, 10:00*pm, wrote:
On Sep 21, 6:43*pm, RHF wrote: On Sep 21, 7:26*am, bpnjensen wrote: On Sep 21, 5:43*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On Sep 20, 9:41 am, John *wrote: On 9/20/2010 7:01 AM, dave wrote: ... How about we quit eating meat? That's the fastest, most effective means of making a big difference. That begins an interesting thought. *How, we Americans, greatly extended our lifespans, health and well being from grazing humongous amounts of beef and having the American diet centered around this excellent source of protein. Now that the rich find that the population is too expensive to feed a diet of beef to, they wish to convert us over to a diet of rice, veges and tofu. *Some idiots will actually begin touting this as desirable! If you ever doubt the lack of intelligence in a good portion of the population, you just gave a good example of a reminder ... You go eat that chit ... leaves more steak for me! Regards, JS On 9/21/2010 12:22 AM, wrote: BTW, Schicklgruber was a vegetarian, not a well publicized fact ! Hah! That probably explains why his health was so bad at the end...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - Well - lots of vegetarians live very long healthy - lives, so that takes care of that issue. - - I happen to like Vegetarians . . . - - - - Cows {Hamburgers} is Vegetarians ! - - Pigs {Sausage} is Vegetarians ! - - Chickens {Wings} is Vegetarians ! - - Sheep {Lamb Chops} is Vegetarians ! - - - - HUMmm All Good* Vegetarians ! ~ RHF - - - - * Be Good To Your Vegetarians - - -and- They Will Be Good To You :o) - - *. - - -ps- Take Life One 'Pork Chop' At A Time. - - . - - *. - Neither pigs nor chickens are vegetarians. Really. Mine Are* and They Are Tasty Too - mmmm ~ RHF * They Are What You Feed Them. Fried Chicken in Peanut Oil -tasty- Roasted/Baked Chicken in the Bar-B-Que -tasty- Smothered Pork Chops -tasty- Stuffed Pork Chops -tasty- .. a n d .. Fresh-Caught Trout* out of the Backyard Pond -Extra-Tasty- Upper Pond - http://tinyurl.com/293n58c * Bass and Catfish Too = xTasty2 |
(OT) : The Great Mother Earth Is Having Hot-and-Cold Flashes{Going Through Menopause}
On Sep 21, 9:08*pm, wrote:
On Sep 21, 8:43*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On Sep 20, 9:41 am, John *wrote: On 9/20/2010 7:01 AM, dave wrote: ... How about we quit eating meat? That's the fastest, most effective means of making a big difference. That begins an interesting thought. *How, we Americans, greatly extended our lifespans, health and well being from grazing humongous amounts of beef and having the American diet centered around this excellent source of protein. Now that the rich find that the population is too expensive to feed a diet of beef to, they wish to convert us over to a diet of rice, veges and tofu. *Some idiots will actually begin touting this as desirable! If you ever doubt the lack of intelligence in a good portion of the population, you just gave a good example of a reminder ... You go eat that chit ... leaves more steak for me! Regards, JS On 9/21/2010 12:22 AM, wrote: BTW, Schicklgruber was a vegetarian, not a well publicized fact ! Hah! That probably explains why his health was so bad at the end...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - And we may never find that out. That scull,hidden away for 60+ years - may be a forgery altogether. In postwar Europe (and practically - everywhere else) many people claimed Schicklgruber didn't disappear - off the face of the world, but quietly slipped out from bombed out - Berlin to some other place (e.g.Spain) and went into seclusion in S. - America. Old rumors never die. Adolf Hitler -born- 20 April 1889 would be 121 Years Old now COLOR HIM : dead, Dead, and really DEAD ! |
(OT) : The Sun Is Having Hot Flashes
Bob Dobbs wrote:
dave wrote: Cycle 24 is going to be below average. Same historical analysis the you seem to be using claimed otherwise. I was talking about MY lifetime. Safe bet, it turns out. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...pot-number.png http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/SC24/index.html (scroll down) I notice that they've all flipped since I last looked a couple years ago from ambitious predictions to more modest. Just the same, an Earth-directed CME could bring down "civilization" in one sunny afternoon. I wonder how Roy missed the asteroids? |
(OT) : The Sacrifice {Going Through Menopause}
bpnjensen wrote:
Actually, there are several small thorium reactors in use today in the USA and abroad. As I said, India and France (and others) are looking to go large-scale in the next few years. The only growing pains we face are those that come from weaning ourselves off our strident belief in big oil to solve all our energy problems. In other words, we need to have the guts and the intelligence to stand up to them politically. Sacrifice. Willingness to endure some hardship for the greater good. |
(OT) : Do it to save yourself (to Hell w/ the kids)
RHF wrote:
Do you 'coat' your Catfish ? -if-so- You should at least Filter the ' fishy olive oil' between uses; and get rid of the Cancerous by-products* building-up in the Oil. * your 'special something' Better is to Rinse the Inside Cooking Surface of the Pan with Hot Water Only {No Soap}; then Wipe it down; and apply a light coat of Olive Oil. . I batter with seasoned cornmeal and egg whites. Zatarain's carcinoma? How long does that take to kill me? |
(OT) : Take Life One 'Pork Chop' At A Time & Be Good To YourVegetarians
RHF wrote:
. -ps- Take Life One 'Pork Chop' At A Time. . . You are what you eat. |
(OT) : Say "NO" To A Global Carbon Credit Exchange -and- Say"YES" to an American 1st CO2 Enrichment Tax
RHF wrote:
2 - This Century's {2000+} 1ST Ecological Bag Boy Nation is going tobe China due to Over Production for the World Market and the Double Whammy of Over Consumption by the Chinese themselves. {Twice the USA or Europe/Russia or The Rest of the World} Then this Century's {2000+} 2ND Ecological Bag Boy Nation is going to be India due to Over Production for the World Market and the Double Whammy of Over Consumption by the Indians themselves. {Equal to China} NOTE - Both China and India Get a Pass on all these Ecological Cuts, Restrictions, and Limits : Because they are by-definition still classified as Developing Countries. -r-o-t-f-l- as i choke on the new pollution http://www.internationalrivers.org/e...size=_original |
(OT) : Take Life One 'Pork Chop' At A Time & Be Good To Your Vegetarians
wrote in message ... Neither pigs nor chickens are vegetarians. Really. So true... pigs are the ultimate omnivore. They will literally eat anything placed in front of them. |
(OT) : Take Life One 'Pork Chop' At A Time & Be Good To YourVegetarians
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