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[email protected] October 17th 10 05:46 AM

Why we need to halt crime and defend guns!
 
On Oct 16, 9:37*am, John Smith wrote:
On 10/15/2010 8:24 PM, wrote:

...
It must pretty grim . Violent firearms and other weapon usage (in
general) is increasing due to worsening economic conditions. The
society is becoming less civilized as well .


What? *Because the thieves were in banks and on wall street this time,
it is NOT their fault? *Crime always has a deleterious effect on
society. *If that effect becomes bad enough, guns can restore civility.

Regards,
JS


More like an official capital punishment to deter the potential
trigger-happy-hold-up- characters. White collar crime is different ,of
course. We give the criminal bankers any amount they need
( immediately as soon as they plead poverty ! ) to carry on their
destructive business ... And that's the way it is.

[email protected] October 17th 10 06:08 AM

Why we need to halt crime and defend guns!
 
On Oct 16, 2:11*pm, wrote:
Wayyyyyy back in the old Western days in America, kids used to take
their shootin irons to school.Perchnce to shoot something to put food on
the supper table at home, that's why.Dijou know that? I have knowed that
most all of my life.

I am woikin on my old trailer in my back yard now.Puttin one inch by
four inch trim boards on thar.My trailer is painted white, the trim
boards I will paint them green.Then I am going to cut out a few big
Shamrocks from some wood and paint them green (but, of course, Green,
Irish Green) and I will put them on my old trailer too.I keeps my old
1914 Ford Model T Runabout Roadster car stored in my old trailer.

http://www.devilfinder.com
The Turning Shamrock

See the turning Shamrock at,http://www.ryans.org
cuhulin, the Shamrock


Shamrock was present on Grundig's emblem at one time. One may wonder
what the reason is.

[email protected] October 17th 10 06:27 AM

Why we need to halt crime and defend guns!
 
On Oct 16, 3:58*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
On 10/16/2010 3:42 PM, dave wrote:

Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:


I essentially agree, but there is a problem, quite outside the main
problem (that violence-prone populations breed more than relatively
peaceful ones).


All so-called civilized people are violence prone.


I don't recall that being true of my grandmother, but perhaps you
know better.

But if you're talking about groups (Horrors! -- we're not supposed
to do that!), there's some truth in what you say. After all,
Sherman's March to the Sea, a war crime of war crimes, was done by
White people.

But it still remains true that some races are far more violent than
others:

http://nationalvanguard.org/2010/10/...ce-in-america/

With my best,

Kevin.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


We have to remember that inner Asia has produced the following men:
Atilla, Genghis-khan, Tamerlane and many,many other,less significant
bloodthirsty megalomaniacs . Ancient Rome, Persia, Armenia,
Bagdad,China,Russia ,India collapsed under their military might. Go
figure.

[email protected] October 17th 10 07:01 AM

Why we need to halt crime and defend guns!
 
On Oct 16, 10:18*pm, RHF wrote:
On Oct 16, 12:58*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-



oliver.com wrote:
On 10/16/2010 3:42 PM, dave wrote:


Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:


I essentially agree, but there is a problem, quite outside the main
problem (that violence-prone populations breed more than relatively
peaceful ones).


All so-called civilized people are violence prone.


I don't recall that being true of my grandmother, but perhaps you
know better.


But if you're talking about groups (Horrors! -- we're not supposed
to do that!), there's some truth in what you say. After all,
Sherman's March to the Sea, a war crime of war crimes, was done by
White people.


- But it still remains true that some races
- are far more violent than others:

? Races ?

Or more correctly Ethnic {Tribal} Groups that
through Centuries & Millennium of close Ethnic
Inner Breeding have developed their Fearsome
Fighter Genes {DNA} within a Warrior Culture;
with the Smarter and Stronger Warriors surviving
and the dumber and weaker dying-off before
they could breed-once-again . . .

The "Cossacks" made-up such an Ethnic Groups
of Fearsome Fighters from a Warrior Tribal Culture.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossacks

The British themselves look for these so-called
"Martial Races" {Ethnic 'Tribal' Groups} to exploit
and use in the building of their World Empire.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_Races

The "Gurkha"s also made-up an Ethnic Group of
Fearsome Fighters from a Warrior Tribal Culture.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha
*.
*.





http://nationalvanguard.org/2010/10/...ce-in-america/


With my best,


Kevin.
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The cossacks are not an ethnic group or tribe. However, they had to
adapt themself to the general lawlessness and conditions of the wild
steppes. Tzar Nicolas II was the last monarch in Russia whose personal
security was entrusted to them. They were the most loyal guard of
HIM . But again,the cossacks spoke many different languages and some
of them were Moslems !

[email protected] October 17th 10 07:03 AM

Why we need to halt crime and defend guns!
 
On Oct 16, 11:33*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 10/16/2010 7:18 PM, RHF wrote:

* ...

Show me an ethnic group, a race, a people which has never been enslaved
and I will show you a group which is violent enough ...

Regards,
JS


Kurdish Nation . Never had a statehood ,btw.

RHF October 17th 10 02:38 PM

(OT) : Of Ethnic Groups and Tribes . . .
 
On Oct 16, 11:01*pm, wrote:
On Oct 16, 10:18*pm, RHF wrote:



On Oct 16, 12:58*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-


oliver.com wrote:
On 10/16/2010 3:42 PM, dave wrote:


Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:


I essentially agree, but there is a problem, quite outside the main
problem (that violence-prone populations breed more than relatively
peaceful ones).


All so-called civilized people are violence prone.


I don't recall that being true of my grandmother, but perhaps you
know better.


But if you're talking about groups (Horrors! -- we're not supposed
to do that!), there's some truth in what you say. After all,
Sherman's March to the Sea, a war crime of war crimes, was done by
White people.


- But it still remains true that some races
- are far more violent than others:


? Races ?


Or more correctly Ethnic {Tribal} Groups that
through Centuries & Millennium of close Ethnic
Inner Breeding have developed their Fearsome
Fighter Genes {DNA} within a Warrior Culture;
with the Smarter and Stronger Warriors surviving
and the dumber and weaker dying-off before
they could breed-once-again . . .


The "Cossacks" made-up such an Ethnic Groups
of Fearsome Fighters from a Warrior Tribal Culture.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossacks


The British themselves look for these so-called
"Martial Races" {Ethnic 'Tribal' Groups} to exploit
and use in the building of their World Empire.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_Races


The "Gurkha"s also made-up an Ethnic Group of
Fearsome Fighters from a Warrior Tribal Culture.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha
*.
*.


http://nationalvanguard.org/2010/10/...ce-in-america/


With my best,


Kevin.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/-Hide quoted text -


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- The cossacks are not an ethnic group or tribe.
- However, they had to adapt themself to the
- general lawlessness and conditions of the wild
- steppes. Tzar Nicolas II was the last monarch
- in Russia whose personal security was entrusted
- to them. They were the most loyal guard of HIM .
- But again,the cossacks spoke many different
- languages and some of them were Moslems !
http://www.wisegeek.com/who-are-the-cossacks.htm

[email protected] October 17th 10 03:41 PM

(OT) : Of Ethnic Groups and Tribes . . .
 
Shamrocks are Clover.There are many different kinds of Clover all over
the World.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Irish Shamrock Cars

No wonder they went under, those cars weren't worth a crap.
cuhulin


Somebody Somewhere October 17th 10 09:03 PM

Why we need to halt crime and defend guns!
 
On Oct 17, 8:40*am, dave wrote:
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

All so-called civilized people are violence prone.


I don't recall that being true of my grandmother, but perhaps you know
better.


If she pays taxes she kills people.


(rolls eyes) ... Grow up, will ya?

RHF October 17th 10 10:21 PM

Idiot's-R-Us : All Americans Are Killers-by-proxy . . .
 
On Oct 17, 5:40*am, dave wrote:
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

All so-called civilized people are violence prone.


I don't recall that being true of my grandmother, but perhaps you know
better.


- If she pays taxes she kills people.

'Special Dave',

Sort of like the analogy of a friend of mine 'Carl'
who worked for the DoN {DOD} and said that he
was not a Killer-by-proxy -but- The Farmer who
grew the Wheat; that make the Bread; that the
Soldier Ate was a Killer-by-proxy.

Conclusion : All Americans Are Killers-by-proxy
unless they moved to Canada in the 1960s . . .

Even Canada supplied the USA with 'essential'
War Materials to aid in Killing of the Peoples of
'other' Nations around the World : And Today
Canada is a Willing and Contibuting Partner in
many of the USA's Wars in so-called 'Zones of
Conflict'. : A lot of Scotch and Irish Ancestral
Warriors {Marital Peoples} live in Canada.

i dutifully pay my taxes and
i proudly support our troops ~ RHF

[email protected] October 17th 10 11:00 PM

Idiot's-R-Us : All Americans Are Killers-by-proxy . . .
 
My 1948 Willys Jeep,,, maybe I will slosh together some fiberglass
panels and build my own Shamrock car.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Tom McCahill Test the Jeep

IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!
DEPORT! DEPORT! DEPORT! ALL POLITICIANS!!!
cuhulin


Humbug October 18th 10 12:46 AM

why we need more stronger gun control
 
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:03:11 -0500, Dillon Pyron
wrote:

Guns don't kill. School children do.


School children don't often make death threats.

Trolls often do.

That one has been known.

--
Humbug

RHF October 18th 10 05:12 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : All Americans Are Killers-by-proxy . . .
 
On Oct 17, 8:39*pm, wrote:
On Oct 17, 5:21*pm, RHF wrote:



On Oct 17, 5:40*am, dave wrote:


Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:


All so-called civilized people are violence prone.


I don't recall that being true of my grandmother, but perhaps you know
better.


- If she pays taxes she kills people.


'Special Dave',


Sort of like the analogy of a friend of mine 'Carl'
who worked for the DoN {DOD} and said that he
was not a Killer-by-proxy -but- The Farmer who
grew the Wheat; that make the Bread; that the
Soldier Ate was a Killer-by-proxy.


Conclusion : All Americans Are Killers-by-proxy
unless they moved to Canada in the 1960s . . .


- - Even Canada supplied the USA with 'essential'
- - War Materials to aid in Killing of the Peoples of
- - 'other' Nations around the World : And Today
- - Canada is a Willing and Contributing Partner in
- - many of the USA's Wars in so-called 'Zones of
- - Conflict'. : A lot of Scotch and Irish Ancestral
-corrrection-
Warriors {Martial Peoples} live in Canada.


i dutifully pay my taxes and
i proudly support our troops ~ RHF
*.
-ps- tyvm canada
*.
*.


- *ex-Marital people are loosers.
- They get raped by the unfair court system...

Oops typing too fast and got the 'i' in front of the 't' :
Martial Peoples -aka- Martial Race ~ RHF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_Race

dave October 18th 10 02:09 PM

OT Hiring a hit man makes you less brutal?
 
Somebody Somewhere wrote:
On Oct 17, 8:40 am, wrote:
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

All so-called civilized people are violence prone.


I don't recall that being true of my grandmother, but perhaps you know
better.


If she pays taxes she kills people.


(rolls eyes) ... Grow up, will ya?


What is that supposed to mean? Is she not responsible for what her
government does in her name with her money?

John Smith October 18th 10 08:51 PM

why we need more stronger gun control
 
On 10/17/2010 4:46 PM, Humbug wrote:
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:03:11 -0500, Dillon Pyron
wrote:

Guns don't kill. School children do.


School children don't often make death threats.

Trolls often do.

That one has been known.


What? Threat? Hell, that is no threat, you crawl though my window--you
get shot. You mug me, break into my safe, grab my wallet, threaten me
with a knife, baseball bat, etc.--YOU GET SHOT!

Let the jury decide if it was a threat, or NOT!

Regards,
JS


RHF October 18th 10 11:09 PM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,Family and Home"
 
On Oct 18, 12:51*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 10/17/2010 4:46 PM, Humbug wrote:

On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:03:11 -0500, Dillon Pyron
*wrote:


Guns don't kill. *School children do.


School children don't often make death threats.


Trolls often do.


That one has been known.


- What? *Threat? *Hell, that is no threat, you crawl though my window--
you
- get shot. *You mug me, break into my safe, grab my wallet, threaten
me
- with a knife, baseball bat, etc.--YOU GET SHOT!
-
- Let the jury decide if it was a threat, or NOT!
-
- Regards,
- JS

JS,
There should be NO Jury .
There should be NO Trial .
There should be NO Charge .
There should be NO Crime .
IT WAS SELF-DEFENSE [.]

We need an Initiative in the State of California
"The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,
Family and Home"
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ball...initiative.htm

* Criminal comes in your Home : It's Self-Defense
and No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.

* Criminal threatens Your-Self : It's Self-Defense and
No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.

* Criminal threatens Your-Family : It's Self-Defense
and No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.

+ Plus NO Civil Actions Either by the Criminal, Their
Family; Their Agents and/or 'others'.

CRIMINAL = Someone Committing a Criminal Act on
Your Person {Self}; Your Family/Love-One/Neighbor;
Home/Neighborhood; Business/Property.

Note - Self-Defense Is NOT A Crime as Defined-by-Law.

DA = Any and all Attorneys representing City/County/State.

-example-
Someone 'Smokes' in your House and You Shoot Them :
It's Self-Defense Against Poisonous Second-Hand Smoke.

yes it is that simple 'self-defense' is 'self-defense'
and 'self-defense' is a basic "human-right" ~ RHF

WR[_2_] October 18th 10 11:24 PM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,Family and Home"
 
On Oct 18, 6:09*pm, RHF wrote:
On Oct 18, 12:51*pm, John Smith wrote: On 10/17/2010 4:46 PM, Humbug wrote:

On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:03:11 -0500, Dillon Pyron
*wrote:


Guns don't kill. *School children do.


School children don't often make death threats.


Trolls often do.


That one has been known.


- What? *Threat? *Hell, that is no threat, you crawl though my window--
you
- get shot. *You mug me, break into my safe, grab my wallet, threaten
me
- with a knife, baseball bat, etc.--YOU GET SHOT!
-
- Let the jury decide if it was a threat, or NOT!
-
- Regards,
- JS

JS,
There should be NO Jury .
There should be NO Trial .
There should be NO Charge .
There should be NO Crime .
IT WAS SELF-DEFENSE [.]

We need an Initiative in the State of California
"The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,
Family and Home"http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ballot-measures/how-to-qualify-an-ini...

* Criminal comes in your Home : It's Self-Defense
and No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.

* Criminal threatens Your-Self : It's Self-Defense and
No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.

* Criminal threatens Your-Family : It's Self-Defense
and No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.

+ Plus NO Civil Actions Either by the Criminal, Their
Family; Their Agents and/or 'others'.

CRIMINAL = Someone Committing a Criminal Act on
Your Person {Self}; Your Family/Love-One/Neighbor;
Home/Neighborhood; Business/Property.

Note - Self-Defense Is NOT A Crime as Defined-by-Law.

DA = Any and all Attorneys representing City/County/State.

-example-
Someone 'Smokes' in your House and You Shoot Them :
It's Self-Defense Against Poisonous Second-Hand Smoke.

yes it is that simple 'self-defense' is 'self-defense'
and 'self-defense' is a basic "human-right" ~ RHF
*.


Have you thought about actually studying English?

Brenda Ann[_2_] October 19th 10 01:37 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self, Family and Home"
 


On Oct 18, 6:09 pm, RHF wrote:
JS,
There should be NO Jury .
There should be NO Trial .
There should be NO Charge .
There should be NO Crime .
IT WAS SELF-DEFENSE [.]

We need an Initiative in the State of California
"The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,
Family and
Home"http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ballot-measures/how-to-qualify-an-ini...

* Criminal comes in your Home : It's Self-Defense
and No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.

* Criminal threatens Your-Self : It's Self-Defense and
No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.

* Criminal threatens Your-Family : It's Self-Defense
and No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.

+ Plus NO Civil Actions Either by the Criminal, Their
Family; Their Agents and/or 'others'.

CRIMINAL = Someone Committing a Criminal Act on
Your Person {Self}; Your Family/Love-One/Neighbor;
Home/Neighborhood; Business/Property.

Note - Self-Defense Is NOT A Crime as Defined-by-Law.

DA = Any and all Attorneys representing City/County/State.

-example-
Someone 'Smokes' in your House and You Shoot Them :
It's Self-Defense Against Poisonous Second-Hand Smoke.

yes it is that simple 'self-defense' is 'self-defense'
and 'self-defense' is a basic "human-right" ~ RHF


Roy,

Aside from the fact that you're nuts....

If such a law existed (minus the lunacy about shooting someone who smokes in
your house.. that would never in a million years fly..), it would be too
easy to abuse it, ie if you wanted to kill someone and get away with it, all
you would have to do is make sure they were in your house under any pretense
and blow them away.




John Smith October 19th 10 02:04 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,Family and Home"
 
On 10/18/2010 5:37 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:

...
Roy,

Aside from the fact that you're nuts....

If such a law existed (minus the lunacy about shooting someone who
smokes in your house.. that would never in a million years fly..), it
would be too easy to abuse it, ie if you wanted to kill someone and get
away with it, all you would have to do is make sure they were in your
house under any pretense and blow them away.


Do you own a gun? Can you use it well? Do you know when to shoot
someone, and when not to? Do you realize mentally ill people can and
quite possibly will attack you for no apparent reason? Do you realize
drugs can cause people to attack you for no apparent reason? Etc., etc.

If not: Do you own good stuff? Do you have children which can be
molested? Are you worth any money?

If yes, YOU NEED A GUN! If all that is not taken care of, YOU NEED
SOMEONE WITH A GUN TO BE AROUND TO PROTECT YOU!

Regards,
JS


[email protected] October 19th 10 02:29 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,...
 
Studying English? http://www.engrish.com

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Obama is a Terrorist Billboard
cuhulin


RHF October 19th 10 02:35 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,Family and Home"
 
On Oct 18, 5:37*pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
On Oct 18, 6:09 pm, RHF wrote:

- - JS,
- - There should be NO Jury .
- - There should be NO Trial .
- - There should be NO Charge .
- - There should be NO Crime .
- - IT WAS SELF-DEFENSE [.]
- -
- - We need an Initiative in the State of California
- - "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,
- - Family and Home"
- - http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ball...qualify-an-ini....
- -
- - * Criminal comes in your Home : It's Self-Defense
- - and No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.
- -
- - * Criminal threatens Your-Self : It's Self-Defense and
- - No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.
- -
- - * Criminal threatens Your-Family : It's Self-Defense
- - and No Criminal Charges can be brought by the DA.
- -
- - + Plus NO Civil Actions Either by the Criminal, Their
- - Family; Their Agents and/or 'others'.
- -
- - CRIMINAL = Someone Committing a Criminal Act on
- - Your Person {Self}; Your Family/Love-One/Neighbor;
- - Home/Neighborhood; Business/Property.
- -
- - Note - Self-Defense Is NOT A Crime as Defined-by-Law.
- -
- - DA = Any and all Attorneys representing City/County/State.
- -
- - -example-
- - Someone 'Smokes' in your House and You Shoot Them :
- - It's Self-Defense Against Poisonous Second-Hand Smoke.
- -
- - yes it is that simple 'self-defense' is 'self-defense'
- - and 'self-defense' is a basic "human-right" ~ RHF
- - .

- Roy,
-
- Aside from the fact that you're nuts....

BAD - That's California . . . the so-called :
Land of Fruits and Nuts ! ;;-}}

- If such a law existed (minus the lunacy about
- shooting someone who smokes in your house..

BAD - So all the crap-o-la about Second-Hand-Smoke*
KILLS is just crap-o-la . . .
* Poisonous Toxic Gas
* * Second-Hand-Smoke a Public Health Hazard
* * Second-Hand-Smoke an Assault On Your Lungs
* * Second-Hand-Smoke Dangerous to New Babies,
Young Children, the Elderly and Infirmed , etc etc etc.

- that would never in a million years fly..),

BAD - Only tales 500K Signatures at 25 Cents to
a $1 per Signature is needed to get it On-the-Ballot.
-and- 'If' it were On-the-Ballot : I would expect that
way-more-than 55% would Vote For It and make it
a California State Human-Right and CA State LAW.

- it would be too easy to abuse it,

BAD
that it would,,,
That It Would...
THAT IT WOULD ! ! !
But It would also give Peace-of-Mind to a Home
Owner {Apartment Renter} that is being broken
into by a 3-Strikes Convicted Burglar/Robber.

- ie if you wanted to kill someone and get away
- with it, all you would have to do is make sure
- they were in your house under any pretense
- and blow them away.

BAD - Bang ! you got that right - band bang ~ RHF

[email protected] October 19th 10 03:22 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,Family and Home"
 
On Oct 18, 9:04*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 10/18/2010 5:37 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:

...
Roy,


Aside from the fact that you're nuts....


If such a law existed (minus the lunacy about shooting someone who
smokes in your house.. that would never in a million years fly..), it
would be too easy to abuse it, ie if you wanted to kill someone and get
away with it, all you would have to do is make sure they were in your
house under any pretense and blow them away.


Do you own a gun? *Can you use it well? *Do you know when to shoot
someone, and when not to? *Do you realize mentally ill people can and
quite possibly will attack you for no apparent reason? *Do you realize
drugs can cause people to attack you for no apparent reason? *Etc., etc..

If not: *Do you own good stuff? *Do you have children which can be
molested? *Are you worth any money?

If yes, YOU NEED A GUN! *If all that is not taken care of, YOU NEED
SOMEONE WITH A GUN TO BE AROUND TO PROTECT YOU!

Regards,
JS


....someone like a couple of amazons!

Sid9[_2_] October 19th 10 03:33 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self, Family and Home"
 

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/18/2010 5:37 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:

...
Roy,

Aside from the fact that you're nuts....

If such a law existed (minus the lunacy about shooting someone who
smokes in your house.. that would never in a million years fly..), it
would be too easy to abuse it, ie if you wanted to kill someone and get
away with it, all you would have to do is make sure they were in your
house under any pretense and blow them away.


Do you own a gun? Can you use it well? Do you know when to shoot
someone, and when not to? Do you realize mentally ill people can and
quite possibly will attack you for no apparent reason? Do you realize
drugs can cause people to attack you for no apparent reason? Etc., etc.

If not: Do you own good stuff? Do you have children which can be
molested? Are you worth any money?

If yes, YOU NEED A GUN! If all that is not taken care of, YOU NEED
SOMEONE WITH A GUN TO BE AROUND TO PROTECT YOU!

Regards,
JS

..
..
Florida has that law.

A traffic argument resulted in the death a a driver.

The gunman walked based on our new law.



Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] October 19th 10 04:51 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,Family and Home"
 
On 10/18/2010 10:33 PM, Sid9 wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/18/2010 5:37 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:

...
Roy,

Aside from the fact that you're nuts....

If such a law existed (minus the lunacy about shooting someone who
smokes in your house.. that would never in a million years fly..), it
would be too easy to abuse it, ie if you wanted to kill someone and get
away with it, all you would have to do is make sure they were in your
house under any pretense and blow them away.


Do you own a gun? Can you use it well? Do you know when to shoot
someone, and when not to? Do you realize mentally ill people can and
quite possibly will attack you for no apparent reason? Do you realize
drugs can cause people to attack you for no apparent reason? Etc., etc.

If not: Do you own good stuff? Do you have children which can be
molested? Are you worth any money?

If yes, YOU NEED A GUN! If all that is not taken care of, YOU NEED
SOMEONE WITH A GUN TO BE AROUND TO PROTECT YOU!

Regards,
JS

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Florida has that law.

A traffic argument resulted in the death a a driver.

The gunman walked based on our new law.



Maybe NASTY people will give other drivers a little respect... like
people do at the shooting range.


Life's too short to have it shortened even more by being an asshole on
the highway.




John Smith October 19th 10 05:08 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : The Individual's Basic "Human-Right" to 'Self-Defense'of Self, Family and Home
 
On 10/18/2010 7:14 PM, RHF wrote:

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Let me sum it up, simply ... if the neighbor lady calls the police and
then shouts for help, that she is being raped (mugged, robbed, beaten,
etc.) ... I will be there at least 15 minutes before the police ... the
perpetrator will be dead at least 14 minutes and 59 seconds before the
police get there ... now, this all takes it for granted that the perp
refuses my warning.

Otherwise, he will simply be arrested about 15 minutes later. That is
taking it for granted he is not successful in any escape attempt(s.)

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 19th 10 05:12 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,Family and Home"
 
On 10/18/2010 7:33 PM, Sid9 wrote:

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Florida has that law.

A traffic argument resulted in the death a a driver.

The gunman walked based on our new law.


My wife is 4'11" tall. If she gets in a traffic argument with a ~6" guy
and he threatening or invades her space (comes within distance of an
attack), I told her, warn him as he approaches, if possible ... but
don't do anything but rip out your .32 Beretta and empty the clip into
his torso ... I'd even recommend that to a small guy!

Regards,
JS


Sid9[_2_] October 19th 10 05:25 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self, Family and Home"
 

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/18/2010 7:33 PM, Sid9 wrote:

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...
Florida has that law.

A traffic argument resulted in the death a a driver.

The gunman walked based on our new law.


My wife is 4'11" tall. If she gets in a traffic argument with a ~6" guy
and he threatening or invades her space (comes within distance of an
attack), I told her, warn him as he approaches, if possible ... but don't
do anything but rip out your .32 Beretta and empty the clip into his torso
... I'd even recommend that to a small guy!

Regards,
JS

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..
You must have a stupid wife who would get into an argument with a ~6" guy.

A six inch guy?

Best to avoid roadside arguments. The ~6" guy might have a gun, too.






John Smith October 19th 10 05:39 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,Family and Home"
 
On 10/18/2010 9:25 PM, Sid9 wrote:

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You must have a stupid wife who would get into an argument with a ~6" guy.

A six inch guy?

Best to avoid roadside arguments. The ~6" guy might have a gun, too.


You must be fortunate to live in an area without "small-men-six-footers"
who like to intimidate small women because the women have little
****-arse men who won't stand up for them. I keep having to come along
and clean up the messes which cowards keep running away from--sometimes
I wonder if we shouldn't just start kicking coward-arse to make them
pitch in and help!

But anyway, I envy you. The area we live in, wife and I, and travel has
a bunch of angry-morons who are always going around attempting to take
other peoples property, etc. By the way, there are LARGE angry
moron-women too ... as a side note, I find this strange, in our area
this affliction seems to be racist in its' choice of morons too! By,
how can that be, huh?

Stay where you are ... it happens a lot here in the central valley of
california--the land of fruits and nuts!

Regards,
JS


Sid9[_2_] October 19th 10 05:48 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self, Family and Home"
 

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/18/2010 9:25 PM, Sid9 wrote:

...
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You must have a stupid wife who would get into an argument with a ~6"
guy.

A six inch guy?

Best to avoid roadside arguments. The ~6" guy might have a gun, too.


You must be fortunate to live in an area without "small-men-six-footers"
who like to intimidate small women because the women have little ****-arse
men who won't stand up for them. I keep having to come along and clean up
the messes which cowards keep running away from--sometimes I wonder if we
shouldn't just start kicking coward-arse to make them pitch in and help!

But anyway, I envy you. The area we live in, wife and I, and travel has a
bunch of angry-morons who are always going around attempting to take other
peoples property, etc. By the way, there are LARGE angry moron-women too
... as a side note, I find this strange, in our area this affliction seems
to be racist in its' choice of morons too! By, how can that be, huh?

Stay where you are ... it happens a lot here in the central valley of
california--the land of fruits and nuts!

Regards,
JS

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Sounds like you have a small dick and need a firearm to augment your self
confidence.



RHF October 19th 10 08:26 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : The Individual's Basic "Human-Right" to 'Self-Defense'of Self, Family and Home
 
On Oct 18, 9:48*pm, "Sid9" wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message

...

On 10/18/2010 9:25 PM, Sid9 wrote:


...
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You must have a stupid wife who would get into an argument with a ~6"
guy.


A six inch guy?


Best to avoid roadside arguments. The ~6" guy might have a gun, too.


You must be fortunate to live in an area without "small-men-six-footers"
who like to intimidate small women because the women have little ****-arse
men who won't stand up for them. *I keep having to come along and clean up
the messes which cowards keep running away from--sometimes I wonder if we
shouldn't just start kicking coward-arse to make them pitch in and help!


But anyway, I envy you. *The area we live in, wife and I, and travel has a
bunch of angry-morons who are always going around attempting to take other
peoples property, etc. *By the way, there are LARGE angry moron-women too
... as a side note, I find this strange, in our area this affliction seems
to be racist in its' choice of morons too! *By, how can that be, huh?


Stay where you are ... it happens a lot here in the central valley of
california--the land of fruits and nuts!


Regards,
JS


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John Smith October 19th 10 08:34 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : "The Individual's Right to Self-Defense of Self,Family and Home"
 
On 10/18/2010 9:48 PM, Sid9 wrote:

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Sounds like you have a small dick and need a firearm to augment your
self confidence.



Funny, I'd just said, to the wife, "I don't think that womans' penis
graft took! Her girlfriend will have to keep wearing the pants." ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 19th 10 08:40 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : The Individual's Basic "Human-Right" to 'Self-Defense'of Self, Family and Home
 
On 10/19/2010 12:26 AM, RHF wrote:

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Sid9 that is 'if' you have the "self confidence"
to actually discuss this topic . . . ~ RHF
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These girls sweat the small stuff; Just remember, when the special
investigator for the county asks you, "Why did you shoot that
man/woman/it?" Just reply, "Because I'd much rather be on trial for his
shooting than him on trial for my murder!"

Now, some of these guys/gals can be real morons. Remember, people like
me will sit your jury. We pay attention. We have seen the
moral-ethic-standards decline in our cities and towns, and we are tired
of it!

One more thing; Keep in mind, the people who argue the hardest against
guns ARE THE CRIMINALS--some of them, perhaps most, just don't realize
it. They think it their right to threaten and abuse others ... ****es
'em off when they realize they are eventually going to run into someone
who stops them ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith October 19th 10 11:19 PM

why we need more stronger gun control
 
I found this story to be too stoopid to reply to ... however, some may
just be that stoopid ... but I VIEWED THE VIDEO ... it looks to me like
HE SHOT THE RIGHT GUY! I think you are an idiot for claiming he shot
the victim! The guy in the orange shirt cut the throat AND attacked the
clerk ... what say others?

On 10/10/2010 3:22 PM, Peter Lucas wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f3b_1286227189

passer-buy walks into shop and cuts customers throat with a knife.


If I had been there with a 9mm in a shoulder holster I would have pulled
the gun and pointed it at the "passer-[by]"; I would have stated a
warning and reached for my cell phone to call 911 ... if the "passer-by"
would have flinched in a manner I was uncomfortable with, I WOULD have
planted half the clip in his torso ... now, this is the ideal scenario
.... it might have played out a bit differently--depending on how the
perpetrator forced me to react.

Then next thing he
trys to stab guy behind counter. A fight starts then a cow-orker
comes out to help. guy behind counter pulls out big gun and shoots
victim who falls to ground with horrific injuerys.


How come he shot the victim? He didn't think he was bleeding fast
enough? I mean, there is something wrong with all that ...

Now this guy behind

the counter was concluisvly shown in the video to have a gun ready to
assualt somebody. He was ALREADY really and willing to fire a gun
point-blank into another human. in other words the guy was looking for
a EXCUSE to fire a gun at another human; probably even chose his
career to increase the liklihood that he could be in a situation where
he could hopt to get away with shooting someone. our laws dont cover
loopholes like these and so why I fully support greater gun control
measures.


I don't believe that at all ... but, I DO believe if you work in a
retail outlet/service where you have large amounts of cash, you should
have a gun and good training on how to use it ... growing up around guns
is good enough ...



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

Help reign in capitalism"s rampage; Vote http://greens.org


I'd say you gave us one GOOD video on why you SHOULD have a gun!

Regards,
JS

RHF October 20th 10 12:54 AM

why we need more stronger gun control
 
On Oct 19, 3:19*pm, John Smith wrote:
I found this story to be too stoopid to reply to ... however, some may
just be that stoopid ... but I VIEWED THE VIDEO ... it looks to me like
HE SHOT THE RIGHT GUY! *I think you are an idiot for claiming he shot
the victim! *The guy in the orange shirt cut the throat AND attacked the
clerk ... what say others?

On 10/10/2010 3:22 PM, Peter Lucas wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f3b_1286227189


passer-buy walks into shop and cuts customers throat with a knife.


If I had been there with a 9mm in a shoulder holster I would have pulled
the gun and pointed it at the "passer-[by]"; I would have stated a
warning and reached for my cell phone to call 911 ... if the "passer-by"
would have flinched in a manner I was uncomfortable with,


- I WOULD have planted half the clip in his torso ...

JS - "Half-the-Clip" ? ? ?

What Happen To 3-Shot Accuracy ! ! !

Leaves 1-Shop for behind the Ear -if- their are
Suffering and In-Pain -and-if- You are 'feeling'
Merciful and Compassionate - Amen ~ RHF

Sid9[_2_] October 20th 10 04:02 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : Prez Obama -opposes- The Individual's Basic "Human-Right" to 'Self-Defense' of Self, Family and Home
 

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 10/19/2010 7:28 PM, Sid9 wrote:

...
Poor you, living in fear.
You must live a place like Somalia, Iraq, or Iran
Keep your weapon under your pillow when you go to sleep lest someone
break in to your castle.
Cocked and off safety for quick response!

SW radio! Obsolete like your attitudes.


I just don't know how to give that a proper reply ... you are entitled to
your beliefs, opinions, actions? You certainly don't need my approval ...
carry on man, stiff upper lip and all that.

Regards,
JS


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You continue to live in an atmosphere of imagined fear.
They call that paranoia.



John Smith October 20th 10 04:06 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : Prez Obama -opposes- The Individual's Basic "Human-Right"to 'Self-Defense' of Self, Family and Home
 
On 10/19/2010 8:02 PM, Sid9 wrote:

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You continue to live in an atmosphere of imagined fear.
They call that paranoia.


Ohh? You are one of those, huh?; Need the last word, "last man
standing rule" and all that?

Well, OK, go ahead ... I won't reply ...

Regards,
JS


John Smith October 20th 10 04:08 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : Prez Obama -opposes- The Individual's Basic "Human-Right"to 'Self-Defense' of Self, Family and Home
 
On 10/19/2010 8:02 PM, Sid9 wrote:

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They call that paranoia.



.... and, one more thing, a lot of dead people CALLED it paranoia ... a
lot of alive people, who have escaped injury, call it smart ... your
choice--like I said ...

Regards,
JS

RHF October 21st 10 02:17 AM

Idiot's-R-Us : Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] -opposes- The Individual's Basic"Human-Right" to 'Self-Defense' of Self, Family and Home
 
On Oct 19, 8:02*pm, "Sid9" wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message

...

On 10/19/2010 7:28 PM, Sid9 wrote:


...
Poor you, living in fear.
You must live a place like Somalia, Iraq, or Iran
Keep your weapon under your pillow when you go to sleep lest someone
break in to your castle.
Cocked and off safety for quick response!


SW radio! Obsolete like your attitudes.


I just don't know how to give that a proper reply ... you are entitled to
your beliefs, opinions, actions? *You certainly don't need my approval ...
carry on man, stiff upper lip and all that.


Regards,
JS


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