On Thanksgiving Day, Americans gather with their family and friends to
celebrate the blessings that Providence has bestowed on their beloved
country.

A deep appreciation of these blessings involves understanding that
they were earned. It is to understand the awesome truth of how "God
helps those who help themselves" applies to the Mayflower Pilgrims and
their First Thanksgiving at America's birth.

This is an appreciation and understanding of which those on the Left
are incapable - for it would mean celebrating the capitalist freedom
that made that original Thanksgiving possible. This no liberal, no
Democrat, no leftie can do. Thus they must distort history instead.

The distortion starts in Kindergarten, with the childish make-believe
of your kid's school play portraying the noble Squanto teaching the
helpless Pilgrims how to feed themselves. So let's drop the curtain on
the distortion and watch the real thing. Here it is.

http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/4314/2/

The Tale of the Pilgrims -- Why It Needs to Be Taught

The study of the history and culture of one's own country is a vital
element of education. It is important for children to understand how
and why they are living the way they are now and that it is a result
of what people who lived before them have done. They need to be able
to connect the dots -- these prevailing thoughts led to fights, these
ideas led to prosperity, this action led to that one, and so on. It is
from making these kinds of connections that the child learns how to
think logically.

The tale of the Pilgrims who came to America to escape tyranny is a
heroic and moving story. Most children have been told the basic story
of Thanksgiving. Here are some more facts for your own information or
that you may want to discuss with your child this holiday:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...ims_why_i.html

Debunked:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/r...-thanksgiving/

To all Capitalist Pigs everywhere, Happy Capitalist Pig Thanksgiving.
cuhulin, the Capitalist Pig

On Nov 26, 5:01*pm, David Barts
wrote:
Debunked:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/r...x-reporter-cla...

Debunking the Communist Debunked OR How little "David Barts" can't
read anything except Mao's Little Red Book (as if he ever could).

Pay close attention to the words. Take it slow. Maybe a sentence per
hour and repeat. Here we GO Komrade:

THANKSGIVING'S BLESSING OF CAPITALIST FREEDOM
Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
Thursday, 25 November 2010

http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/4314/2/

On Thanksgiving Day, Americans gather with their family and friends to
celebrate the blessings that Providence has bestowed on their beloved
country.

A deep appreciation of these blessings involves understanding that
they were earned. It is to understand the awesome truth of how "God
helps those who help themselves" applies to the Mayflower Pilgrims and
their First Thanksgiving at America's birth.

This is an appreciation and understanding of which those on the Left
are incapable - for it would mean celebrating the capitalist freedom
that made that original Thanksgiving possible. This no liberal, no
Democrat, no leftie can do. Thus they must distort history instead.

The distortion starts in Kindergarten, with the childish make-believe
of your kid's school play portraying the noble Squanto teaching the
helpless Pilgrims how to feed themselves. So let's drop the curtain on
the distortion and watch the real thing. Here it is.

The real history of the Mayflower Pilgrims was recounted by their
leader, William Bradford (1590-1657) in his book Of Plymouth
Plantation, completed in 1647. It is from Bradford that we learn of
Squanto, who did indeed show the Pilgrims how to "set" or plant corn
(a new unfamiliar crop for them). Then we learn that the Pilgrims
taught the Indians how to grow more corn than they ever had befo

"The Indeans used to have nothing so much corne as they have since the
English have stored them with their hoes, and seene their industrie in
breaking up new grounds therwith."

Reading the real history of the Pilgrims is so revelatory that I want
you to see it at length. The Pilgrims landed in December 1620,
suffered a horrible winter, figured out how to fish and hunt that
spring and summer so that there may have been some sort of feast with
friendly Indians in the fall of 1621 - although Bradford doesn't
recount the incident.

But by 1622 they were starving. There was no "Thanksgiving" that
year. There was the next - for 1623 saw the Pilgrims in well-fed
abundance, and thus was the year of the real First Thanksgiving.

What made the difference? Here are Bradford's own words (albeit with
modern spelling like "been" instead of "bene" - the original spelling
is in the link above; the parentheses are his, the explanatory
brackets are mine), describing Anno Dom.1623:

It may be thought strange that these people should fall to these
extremities in so short a time, being left competently provided when
the ship [the Mayflower] left them, and had an addition by that
moyetie [portion] of corn that was got by trade, besides much they got
of the Indians where they lived, by one means and other.

It must needs be their great disorder, for they spent excessively
whilst they had, or could get it. And after they began to come into
wants, many sold away their clothes and bed coverings; others (so base
were they) became servants to the Indians, and would cut them wood and
fetch them water for a cap full of corn; others fell to plain
stealing, both night and day, from the Indians, of which they
grievously complained. In the end, they came to that misery that some
starved and died with cold and hunger...

All this while no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they
might expect any. So they began to think how they might raise as much
corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that
they might not still thus languish in misery.

At length, after much debate of things, the Governor [Bradford] (with
the advise of the chiefest amongst them) gave way that they should set
corn every man for his own particular [plant corn on his own private
land], and in that regard trust to them selves; in all other things to
go on in the general way as before.

And so [there was] assigned to every family a parcel of land,
according to the proportion of their number for that end, only for
present use (but made no division for inheritance), and ranged all
boys and youth under some family. This had very good success; for it
made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted then
other wise would have been by any means the Governor or any other
could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better
content.

The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little-
ones with them to set corn, which before they would allege weakness
and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great
tyranny and oppression.

The experience that was had in this common course and condition, tried
sundry years, and that amongst godly and sober men, may well evince
the vanity of that conceit of Plato's and other ancients applauded by
some of later times -- that the taking away of property, and bringing
in communities into a common wealth, would make them happy and
flourishing, as if they were wiser than God.

For this community (so far as it was) was found to breed much
confusion and discontent, and retard much employment that would have
been to their benefit and comfort. For the young-men that were most
able and fit for labor and service did repine [complain] that they
should spend their time and strength to work for other men's wives and
children, with out any recompense.

The strong, or man of parts, had no more in division [in amount] of
victails [food] and clothes, than he that was weak and not able to do
a quarter the other could; this was thought injustice. The aged and
graver men to be ranked and equalized in labors, and victails,
clothes, etc., with the meaner and younger sort, thought it some
indignity and disrespect unto them.

And for men's wives to be commanded to do service for other men, as
dressing their meat, washing their clothes, etc., they deemed it a
kind of slavery, neither could many husbands well brook it.

Upon the point all being to have alike, and all to do alike, they
thought them selves in the like condition, and have as good as
another; and so, if it did not cut off those relations that God hath
set amongst men, yet it did at least much diminish and take of the
mutual respects that should be preserved amongst them.

And would have been worse if they had been men of another condition.
Let none object this is men's corruption, and nothing to the course
itself. I answer, seeing all men have this corruption in them, God in
his wisdom saw another course fitter for them...

By the time harvest was come [fall 1623], instead of famine, now God
gave them plenty, and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing
of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God. And the effect of
their particular planting was well seen, for all had, one way and
other, pretty well to bring the year about, and some of the abler sort
and more industrious had to spare, and sell to others, so as any
general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day
[1647].

That is as effective a refutation of socialism and affirmation of
capitalism as there has ever been. The Pilgrims were starving,
stealing and begging from the Indians under a no private property/
everybody work for the common good economy. They switch to a private
property/everybody work for themselves economy, and within one season
there is abundance for all.

But how can Lefties and Zero-Reid-Pelosi Democrats be thankful for
this? They cannot and are not. Their goal is not abundance. Their
goal is deprivation - for where there is deprivation there must be
victims, victims who can be manipulated to acquire power.

Bradford's history - the real history of Thanksgiving - is there in
plain black and white, undeniable and irrefutable for anyone to see.
It is the history that should be taught to our schoolchildren but is
not. It is ignored and denied. It likely is the very first time you
yourself have ever seen Bradford's words.

Liberals, Democrats, and members of America's Fascist Left may very
well be enjoying this day - enjoying good food, good wine, good
friends and family. Let's hope they are. We should not begrudge them
this moment of good cheer.

But what is impossible, or at least difficult for them is to enjoy
being American, being thankful for America, to celebrate the abundance
of America, the abundance of its material and spiritual well-being
thanks to the private property capitalism that made the first
Thanksgiving and all those that followed possible.

Any celebration of theirs is always a yes...but thankfulness. "Yes,
we have much to be thankful for on this day, but we must never forget
what we did to the Indians and the slaves, that there is still too
much poverty and racism in America, blah, blah, blah..."

The purpose of Thanksgiving is to be thankful for being American. This
is the day to celebrate the goodness of our country - the moral
goodness, the moral decency of American institutions, American
history, and the character of the American people. Without any buts.

It's easy for conservatives to do this - it comes natural to us. It's
the opposite for liberals, who relish and revel in incessant guilt-
mongering - and can't celebrate a Thanksgiving with no buts.

So this day, we can relish and revel in the capitalist freedom and
abundance that Providence enabled the Pilgrims to choose, and create
America thereby.

That freedom and abundance is today being threatened as never before
by a Fascist Left determined to destroy it. Now more than ever is the
time to focus anew on all that we love about our country, to know that
Providence has always smiled upon it - for we, like the Pilgrims have
the capacity to choose capitalist freedom over socialist slavery.

With that choice, the original Americans created a civilization out of
the wilderness. With that choice, we Americans of today can rescue
our civilization from the wilderness of the Fascist Left led by
President Zero.

That choice liberates us from their power-lust and make us impervious
to the poison of anti-America hate that eats at all liberal souls.
That is why we are what they are not: grateful for our country, for
the very existence of America, for the priceless privilege of being an
American.

Happy Thanksgiving to you all.

http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/4314/2/

On Nov 27, 11:09Â*am, N∅ ∅baMa∅
wrote:
On Nov 26, 5:01Â*pm, David Barts
wrote:

Debunked:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/r...x-reporter-cla...

Debunking the Communist Debunked OR How little "David Barts" can't
read anything except Mao's Little Red Book (as if he ever could).

Pay close attention to the words. Â*Take it slow. Â*Maybe a sentence per
hour and repeat. Â*Here we GO Komrade:

THANKSGIVING'S BLESSING OF CAPITALIST FREEDOM
Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
Thursday, 25 November 2010

http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/4314/2/

On Thanksgiving Day, Americans gather with their family and friends to
celebrate the blessings that Providence has bestowed on their beloved
country.

A deep appreciation of these blessings involves understanding that
they were earned. Â*It is to understand the awesome truth of how "God
helps those who help themselves" applies to the Mayflower Pilgrims and
their First Thanksgiving at America's birth.

This is an appreciation and understanding of which those on the Left
are incapable - for it would mean celebrating the capitalist freedom
that made that original Thanksgiving possible. Â*This no liberal, no
Democrat, no leftie can do. Â*Thus they must distort history instead.

The distortion starts in Kindergarten, with the childish make-believe
of your kid's school play portraying the noble Squanto teaching the
helpless Pilgrims how to feed themselves. So let's drop the curtain on
the distortion and watch the real thing. Here it is.

The real history of the Mayflower Pilgrims was recounted by their
leader, William Bradford (1590-1657) in his book Of Plymouth
Plantation, completed in 1647. Â*It is from Bradford that we learn of
Squanto, who did indeed show the Pilgrims how to "set" or plant corn
(a new unfamiliar crop for them). Â*Then we learn that the Pilgrims
taught the Indians how to grow more corn than they ever had befo

"The Indeans used to have nothing so much corne as they have since the
English have stored them with their hoes, and seene their industrie in
breaking up new grounds therwith."

Reading the real history of the Pilgrims is so revelatory that I want
you to see it at length. Â*The Pilgrims landed in December 1620,
suffered a horrible winter, figured out how to fish and hunt that
spring and summer so that there may have been some sort of feast with
friendly Indians in the fall of 1621 - although Bradford doesn't
recount the incident.

But by 1622 they were starving. Â*There was no "Thanksgiving" that
year. Â*There was the next - for 1623 saw the Pilgrims in well-fed
abundance, and thus was the year of the real First Thanksgiving.

What made the difference? Â*Here are Bradford's own words (albeit with
modern spelling like "been" instead of "bene" - the original spelling
is in the link above; the parentheses are his, the explanatory
brackets are mine), describing Anno Dom.1623:

It may be thought strange that these people should fall to these
extremities in so short a time, being left competently provided when
the ship [the Mayflower] left them, and had an addition by that
moyetie [portion] of corn that was got by trade, besides much they got
of the Indians where they lived, by one means and other.

It must needs be their great disorder, for they spent excessively
whilst they had, or could get it. And after they began to come into
wants, many sold away their clothes and bed coverings; others (so base
were they) became servants to the Indians, and would cut them wood and
fetch them water for a cap full of corn; others fell to plain
stealing, both night and day, from the Indians, of which they
grievously complained. In the end, they came to that misery that some
starved and died with cold and hunger...

All this while no supply was heard of, neither knew they when they
might expect any. So they began to think how they might raise as much
corn as they could, and obtain a better crop than they had done, that
they might not still thus languish in misery.

At length, after much debate of things, the Governor [Bradford] (with
the advise of the chiefest amongst them) gave way that they should set
corn every man for his own particular [plant corn on his own private
land], and in that regard trust to them selves; in all other things to
go on in the general way as before.

And so [there was] assigned to every family a parcel of land,
according to the proportion of their number for that end, only for
present use (but made no division for inheritance), and ranged all
boys and youth under some family. This had very good success; for it
made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted then
other wise would have been by any means the Governor or any other
could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better
content.

The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little-
ones with them to set corn, which before they would allege weakness
and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great
tyranny and oppression.

The experience that was had in this common course and condition, tried
sundry years, and that amongst godly and sober men, may well evince
the vanity of that conceit of Plato's and other ancients applauded by
some of later times -- that the taking away of property, and bringing
in communities into a common wealth, would make them happy and
flourishing, as if they were wiser than God.

For this community (so far as it was) was found to breed much
confusion and discontent, and retard much employment that would have
been to their benefit and comfort. For the young-men that were most
able and fit for labor and service did repine [complain] that they
should spend their time and strength to work for other men's wives and
children, with out any recompense.

The strong, or man of parts, had no more in division [in amount] of
victails [food] and clothes, than he that was weak and not able to do
a quarter the other could; this was thought injustice. The aged and
graver men to be ranked and equalized in labors, and victails,
clothes, etc., with the meaner and younger sort, thought it some
indignity and disrespect unto them.

And for men's wives to be commanded to do service for other men, as
dressing their meat, washing their clothes, etc., they deemed it a
kind of slavery, neither could many husbands well brook it.

Upon the point all being to have alike, and all to do alike, they
thought them selves in the like condition, and have as good as
another; and so, if it did not cut off those relations that God hath
set amongst men, yet it did at least much diminish and take of the
mutual respects that should be preserved amongst them.

And would have been worse if they had been men of another condition.
Let none object this is men's corruption, and nothing to the course
itself. I answer, seeing all men have this corruption in them, God in
his wisdom saw another course fitter for them...

By the time harvest was come [fall 1623], instead of famine, now God
gave them plenty, and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing
of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God. And the effect of
their particular planting was well seen, for all had, one way and
other, pretty well to bring the year about, and some of the abler sort
and more industrious had to spare, and sell to others, so as any
general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day
[1647].

That is as effective a refutation of socialism and affirmation of
capitalism as there has ever been. Â*The Pilgrims were starving,
stealing and begging from the Indians under a no private property/
everybody work for the common good economy. Â*They switch to a private
property/everybody work for themselves economy, and within one season
there is abundance for all.

But how can Lefties and Zero-Reid-Pelosi Democrats be thankful for
this? Â*They cannot and are not. Â*Their goal is not abundance. Â*Their
goal is deprivation - for where there is deprivation there must be
victims, victims who can be manipulated to acquire power.

Bradford's history - the real history of Thanksgiving - is there in
plain black and white, undeniable and irrefutable for anyone to see.
It is the history that should be taught to our schoolchildren but is
not. Â*It is ignored and denied. Â*It likely is the very first time you
yourself have ever seen Bradford's words.

Liberals, Democrats, and members of America's Fascist Left may very
well be enjoying this day - enjoying good food, good wine, good
friends and family. Â*Let's hope they are. Â*We should not begrudge them
this moment of good cheer.

But what is impossible, or at least difficult for them is to enjoy
being American, being thankful for America, to celebrate the abundance
of America, the abundance of its material and spiritual well-being
thanks to the private property capitalism that made the first
Thanksgiving and all those that followed possible.

Any celebration of theirs is always a yes...but thankfulness. Â*"Yes,
we have much to be thankful for on this day, but we must never forget
what we did to the Indians and the slaves, that there is still too
much poverty and racism in America, blah, blah, blah..."

The purpose of Thanksgiving is to be thankful for being American. This
is the day to celebrate the goodness of our country - the moral
goodness, the moral decency of American institutions, American
history, and the character of the American people. Â*Without any buts..

It's easy for conservatives to do this - it comes natural to us. Â*It's
the opposite for liberals, who relish and revel in incessant guilt-
mongering - and can't celebrate a Thanksgiving with no buts.

So this day, we can relish and revel in the capitalist freedom and
abundance that Providence enabled the Pilgrims to choose, and create
America thereby.

That freedom and abundance is today being threatened as never before
by a Fascist Left determined to destroy it. Now more than ever is the
time to focus anew on all that we love about our country, to know that ....

read more »

You are a VERY confused and warped individual.

On Nov 27, 1:13*pm, bpnjensen wrote:

You are a VERY confused and warped individual.

You are a very bankrupt and penniless Serf.

On Nov 27, 1:09Â*pm, N∅ ∅baMa∅
wrote:


it is impossible for liberals to be fascists. fascists hate liberals,
trade unionist, socialists, communists, jews(because most of them are
liberal), the weak, the disabled, minorities, homosexuals. they are
intolerant of other views and religions. they practice bigotry,
racism, and homophobia, etc. say, i just described the modern
conservative movement

- - - From: ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
- - - Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:09:08 -0800 (PST)
- - - Local: Fri, Nov 26 2010 1:09 pm
- - - Subject: THANKSGIVING'S BLESSING OF CAPITALIST FREEDOM
- - - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...0bc142952d999d

- - On Nov 27, 1:13Â*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
- - You are a VERY confused and warped individual.

- On Nov 27, 11:29 am, N∅ ∅baMa∅
- wrote:
- You are a very bankrupt and penniless Serf.

Ah . . . "Serfdom" in 21st Century America !

Yeah the Average Working American 'Serf' :
* * * Serfs-R-Us * * *

Owns Their Own 3-Bedroom Home
-with- Gas & Electricity*
-with- Clear Water & Sewerage
+plus+ Garbage Pick-Up & Recycling
* Winter Heating and Summer Air Conditioning

Owns Two Cars
-with- Good Safe Public Roads to Drive-on
+plus+ Low Cost Fuel

Owns Four Color TVs
-with- Multi-Channel+ Cable TV a/o Satellite TV

Owns Two PCs and Internet Devices
-with- High Speed Internet in the Home

Has Ready Access to Low Cost Food
-at- The Local/Neighborhood SuperMarket

Has Ready Access to Low Cost Consumer Goods
-at- The Local/Town/City Shopping Mall

Has Access To The Highest Full Time Employment
Rates -aka- 'Open Job Market' in the Industrialized
World for the Larger Populated Countries/Nations
-wrt- G8/G20

plus,,, Plus... PLUS ! ! ! -drum-roll-please-
We Now Have Obama-Care© )

yeah it's real tough being a 'serf'
in 21st century america ~ RHF

On Nov 27, 3:18Â*pm, RHF wrote:
- - - From: ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
- - - Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:09:08 -0800 (PST)
- - - Local: Fri, Nov 26 2010 1:09 pm
- - - Subject: THANKSGIVING'S BLESSING OF CAPITALIST FREEDOM
- - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2a0bc142952d999d

- - On Nov 27, 1:13Â*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
- - You are a VERY confused and warped individual.

- On Nov 27, 11:29 am, N∅ ∅baMa∅- wrote:

- You are a very bankrupt and penniless Serf.

Ah . . . "Serfdom" in 21st Century America !

Yeah the Average Working American 'Serf' :
* * * Serfs-R-Us * * *

Owns Their Own 3-Bedroom Home
-with- Gas & Electricity*
-with- Clear Water & Sewerage
+plus+ Garbage Pick-Up & Recycling
* Winter Heating and Summer Air Conditioning

Owns Two Cars
-with- Good Safe Public Roads to Drive-on
+plus+ Low Cost Fuel

Owns Four Color TVs
-with- Multi-Channel+ Cable TV a/o Satellite TV

Owns Two PCs and Internet Devices
-with- High Speed Internet in the Home

Has Ready Access to Low Cost Food
-at- The Local/Neighborhood SuperMarket

Has Ready Access to Low Cost Consumer Goods
-at- The Local/Town/City Shopping Mall

Has Access To The Highest Full Time Employment
Rates -aka- 'Open Job Market' in the Industrialized
World for the Larger Populated Countries/Nations
-wrt- G8/G20

plus,,, Plus... PLUS ! ! ! -drum-roll-please-
We Now Have Obama-Care© )

yeah it's real tough being a 'serf'
in 21st century america ~ RHF
Â*.
Â*.

You are a VERY confused and warped individual.

On Nov 27, 4:46Â*pm, "Chas. Chan" wrote:
On Nov 27, 3:18Â*pm, RHF wrote:



- - - From: ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
- - - Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:09:08 -0800 (PST)
- - - Local: Fri, Nov 26 2010 1:09 pm
- - - Subject: THANKSGIVING'S BLESSING OF CAPITALIST FREEDOM
- - -http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2a0bc142952d999d

- - On Nov 27, 1:13Â*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
- - You are a VERY confused and warped individual.

- On Nov 27, 11:29 am, N∅ ∅baMa∅- wrote:

- You are a very bankrupt and penniless Serf.

Ah . . . "Serfdom" in 21st Century America !

Yeah the Average Working American 'Serf' :
* * * Serfs-R-Us * * *

Owns Their Own 3-Bedroom Home
-with- Gas & Electricity*
-with- Clear Water & Sewerage
+plus+ Garbage Pick-Up & Recycling
* Winter Heating and Summer Air Conditioning

Owns Two Cars
-with- Good Safe Public Roads to Drive-on
+plus+ Low Cost Fuel

Owns Four Color TVs
-with- Multi-Channel+ Cable TV a/o Satellite TV

Owns Two PCs and Internet Devices
-with- High Speed Internet in the Home

Has Ready Access to Low Cost Food
-at- The Local/Neighborhood SuperMarket

Has Ready Access to Low Cost Consumer Goods
-at- The Local/Town/City Shopping Mall

Has Access To The Highest Full Time Employment
Rates -aka- 'Open Job Market' in the Industrialized
World for the Larger Populated Countries/Nations
-wrt- G8/G20

plus,,, Plus... PLUS ! ! ! -drum-roll-please-
We Now Have Obama-Care© )

yeah it's real tough being a 'serf'
in 21st century america ~ RHF
Â*.
Â*.

You are a VERY confused and warped individual.

very. Conservatives, sit up and take notice who is speaking for you
and what is being said in your name. That is, of course, unless he's a
troll.