Whats next, how much there should be in the toilet before flushing?

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 

m II wrote:

On 10-12-28 04:04 PM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

I was considering UV lights in restaurants that wash the kitchen in UV
at night to combat e-coli and other germs... I guessing it's already
out there. But NOT in the strength I was thinking maybe even for roach
bug and rat control.

Blind the rats and cook the roaches strategically place the lights to so
that there are NO shaded places.

And it can double as a tanning booth....

Tanned roaches with a light cream sauce sound like a delicacy...be
careful not to overcook, there has to be the slightest crunch
remaining..Keep the garlic butter in the frying pan just hot enough not
to smoke.

Up there at the lumber camp, in between your stints as a prostitute, do you
perhaps cook up a pan or two of termites?

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 

On 12/28/2010 08:08 AM, Sid9 wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
On 12/28/2010 05:51 AM, Sid9 wrote:

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Is the shortage of food making Americans fat?



They are fat because they eat too much meat. Way too much meat. The
more beef you eat the more you look like a steer.
.
.
You deleted all the previous and changed the subject.

The OP asserted that Ethanol as a fuel is depriving people of food.

That was a change from the claimed issue of California and light bulbs
the subject of this thread.

An issue that seem to be false since the standards for light bulbs that
were cited did not come from California's government.

What do you have to say about the subject of this thread?


People will be deprived of food whether we distill corn ethanol or not.
Monsanto is seeing to that. Light bulbs are a non-issue, a distraction,
a shiny object dangled in the moonlight.

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 

dave wrote :

On 12/28/2010 12:35 PM, Jane_Galt wrote:
Should be interesting when they ban incandescents and people go to
replace the headlights in their car, and find they can no longer see
the street atss night.


Nobody is banning incandescent bulbs. There is a new standard for
efficient space illumination devices, but not automotive, or decorative,
or panel lamps.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_...ty_Act_of_2007
#Incandescent_lights

Incandescent lights

Under the law, incandescent bulbs that produce 310–2600 lumens of light are
effectively phased out between 2012 and 2014. Bulbs outside this range
(roughly, light bulbs currently less than 40 watts or more than 150 watts)
are exempt from the ban. Also exempt are several classes of speciality
lights, including appliance lamps, "rough service" bulbs, 3-way, colored
lamps, and plant lights.[23]

The phase-out of incandescent light bulbs was supported by the Alliance to
Save Energy, a coalition of light bulb manufacturers, electric utilities and
conservation groups. The group estimated that lighting accounts for 22% of
total U.S. electricity usage, and that eliminating incandescent bulbs
completely would save $18 billion per year (equivalent to the output of 80
coal plants).[24] Light bulb manufacturers also hoped a single national
standard would prevent the enactment of conflicting bans and efficiency
standards by state governments.



--
- Jane Galt

The reason that Progressivism-Socialism-Communism always fail, is that you
eventually run out of other peoples' money.

Al Gore Is A 'Carbon Credits' Eco-Criminal {Enemy-of-the-Planet}
 

On Dec 28, 9:59*pm, RHF wrote:
On Dec 28, 6:09*pm, First Post wrote:





On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:37:59 -0600, D Peter Maus
wrote:

On 12/28/10 15:20 , Sid9 wrote:

3500K matches candle light and incandescent lighting.

We become so accustomed to orange/yellow lighting at night that we think
that's the way it ought to be.

"Daylight" lamps more closely reproduce colors correctly indoors and, I
believe, when prejudices are overcome, will become the standard.

CFL's a good first step away from the inefficient incandescent lamp.

* CFL's are going to be the DAT of lighting--an intermediate step into
a new paradigm to be quickly surpassed by other technologies currently
on the rise.

The next step is even MORE efficient: LEDs where both color and
brightness can easily be controlled by the user.

* That's where it's going to go. I've been experimenting with LED
lighting for 10 years, now, building my own systems as I go. Commercial
LED lighting is still anemic, and not as long-term stable as claimed for
it, except in monochromatic applications.

* But it's evolving quickly, and is on track to become the defacto
standard in less than a decade. Leaving CFL's in the dust.

Currently, in just day to day life, you can see LEDs being used in
traffic signals, tail lights in all forms of vehicles, and a great
increase in high output lamps such as in spotlights and all sizes of
flashlights. *In the very near future you will see vehicle headlights
as well as home lighting using LEDs as a standard. *
Commercial LED lighting is not going to remain "anemic" very long.
Right now you can get LED street lights with the following specs:
Power Consumption: 112W LEDs (132W total)
Replaces 250W HPS (325W total)
Expected Life: 50,000 hours (2083 days or 5.707 years)
LED Output:
Luminous Flux: 8,400lm
Color Temperatu 2700K-3000K (warm white), 4000K-4500K (natural
white), 5000K-7000K (pure white)
Beam Spread: 120 degrees width, 60 degrees depth
Working Voltage: 85-264V AC, 12V or 24V AC/DC
Fits: 1.5" - 2.5" (35mm - 65mm) round pole or pipe
Dimensions: 28.25" (L) x 12.5" (W) x 3.5"(H) / 715mm (L) x 315mm(W) x
90mm(H)http://www.besthomeledlighting.com/product/SL-112W

Right now it's a pricey item but considering it's life expectancy is
over 5.7 years (if left on 24/7), compared to what most municipalities
use (HPS or MH), it's actually less expensive even without factoring
in the smaller power requirements as the other types of lamps require
replacement (based upon my own personal experience) around every 18 to
24 months due to various issues.

For the private sector, the owner of a shopping center or mall with
substantial parking, the savings in the electric bill along with far
less maintenance requirements could offset the intial cost per lamp in
as little as the first year or two.

And then there is the fact that the other types such as HID, MV, HPS
and MH have various issues such as HIDs shutting down due to any
voltage drop and taking up to 10 minutes to "restrike" or MVs not
liking cold environments or the Lumens depreciation of MHs or the
"cycling" of HPSs.

And LEDs are a hell of a lot less damaging to the environment and
pretty much non toxic compared to CFLs in the event of breakage.
Plus they are much safer to manufacture to boot.

Of course none of this is likely to be news to you but a little
corroboration never hurts yes?

LED are still Not-Ready-for-Prime-Time in most
American Homes -imho-

I have bought ~100 LEDs for various applications
and except for a few the LEDs have been too-dim
or failed too-quickly.

Presently CFL's do offer a Life-Time-Cost of Operations
and Energy-Environmental Advantage to be worth the
switch -imho-

Just Tax Excessive Energy Use And The Market Will
Dictate the Use of Incandescents & CFLs & LEDs.

yes - it is that simple ~ RHF
*.
-ps- Al Gore Should Be Paying A $1M A Month For
His 'Mansion's 17 Times the Average American Family's
Home Energy Usage.
*.
+plus+ A $100K Private Jet Tax For Every Flight
As He Promotes Carbon Credits and Taxes On
Working People Simply Trying To Light and Heat
Their Homes For Their Families.
*.
-fwiw- Al Gore Is A 'Carbon Credits' Eco-Criminal
{Enemy-of-the-Planet} -imho-
*.
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Al Gore is our modern day Al Capone...

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 

On 12/28/2010 04:46 PM, Sid9 wrote:



If the lamp's purpose is for generating light, you have reduced its
efficiency by more than half.


But it won't make the radio buzz...

'Special-Dave' : It's a Flying Saucer Moment :-}
 

On 12/28/2010 07:28 PM, RHF wrote:
On Dec 28, 5:36 pm, wrote:
On 12/28/2010 01:29 PM, wrote:

Those real expensive headlights on 18 wheeler trucks.One time I was
watching a tv channel about 18 wheelers.A guy said somebody stold both
of the headlights from his truck.He said it will cost him over $700.00
to replace those headlights.
cuhulin

- That's silly. All headlights are the same size.

Now Are They . . . 'Special-Dave'


They aren't allowed to throw low beams any farther than your Yugo.

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 

On 12/29/2010 05:08 PM, Daniel wrote:
On Dec 28, 8:32 pm, wrote:
On 12/28/2010 12:56 PM, Daniel wrote:



You must have missed the part about the toxic mercury in the
flourescent bulbs, and how you van't just throw them in the trash when
they burn out. But go ahead, spend your extra $2 for lights that don't
light as well, and are a toxic hazard.

What do you do with your toxic waste?

http://www.ehow.com/how_2049265_dispose-cfl-bulb.html

That's no answer. What do you do with your household hazardous waste.
Hyperlinks don't count. The internet is full of disinformation. I'd like
your words.

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 

On Dec 29, 8:28Â*pm, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 12/29/10 19:06 , Daniel wrote:









On Dec 28, 4:10 pm, "D. Peter Â*wrote:
On 12/28/10 14:57 , Daniel wrote:

On Dec 28, 12:56 am, Â* Â*wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:32 pm, Sheldon Â* Â*wrote:

On Dec 27, 5:14 pm,
wrote:

On Dec 27, 4:48 pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Â* Â*wrote:

The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.

Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.

Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Â*Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Â*Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Â*Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Â*Ten-four!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...bs_coming_to_c...

I see no diff in incandescent vs. flourescent. Â*The latter lasts a lot
longer, too. Â*Bunch of whining by poor mothe****ers who apparently
can't afford to splurge the extra 2 bones for the better bulb.

- Yeah, I remember when you assholes said the same sort of thing about
- Ethonal. Â*It was going to be better for the environment, it was
going
- to make America energy independent. Â*It was going to be great..

At 5% Ethanol a 20 Gallon Tank of Gas has
19 Gals of Imported Oil and 1 Gal of Domestic
Ethanol : That One Less Gal of Imported Oil
and I am OK with that. Â*IMHO - The USA
should be moving to 85% Gas-A-Hol to reduce
Imported Oil by another 10%. ~ RHF
Â* Â*.

You DO know that your messiah, algore has finally admitted that
ethanol is a scam, right?

Â* Â* You know, the irony is that ethanol is a better anti-knock
additive to gasoline than the petrochemical products the oil
industry promotes.

And you know it is more corrosive and harmful to the fuel system,
right?

Â* Â*No, actually, it's not. Methanol is. Ethanol is not.


Oops, looks like you're lying.
http://www.carbuyersnotebook.com/pet...l-for-engines/


You ALSO know that it takes more energy to produce. right?

Â* Â*Yes, it does. And that's a different argument.


Not really.

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 

On Dec 30, 10:43*am, dave wrote:
On 12/29/2010 05:08 PM, Daniel wrote:

On Dec 28, 8:32 pm, *wrote:
On 12/28/2010 12:56 PM, Daniel wrote:

You must have missed the part about the toxic mercury in the
flourescent bulbs, and how you van't just throw them in the trash when
they burn out. But go ahead, spend your extra $2 for lights that don't
light as well, and are a toxic hazard.

What do you do with your toxic waste?

http://www.ehow.com/how_2049265_dispose-cfl-bulb.html

That's no answer. What do you do with your household hazardous waste.
Hyperlinks don't count. The internet is full of disinformation. I'd like
your words.

The hyperlink is your answer. They can't just be thrown in the trash,
although I'm sure that what you do.