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∅baMa∅ Tse Dung December 28th 10 12:48 AM

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The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.

Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.

Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Ten-four!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...ming_to_c.html








Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS December 28th 10 01:09 AM

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 
I got a bunch of 100w incandescent bulbs stored away. Everyone should
since you can buy them 4 for a dollar.

neoconis_ignoramus December 28th 10 01:14 AM

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On Dec 27, 4:48Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:
The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.

Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.

Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Â*Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Â*Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Â*Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Â*Ten-four!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...bs_coming_to_c...


I see no diff in incandescent vs. flourescent. The latter lasts a lot
longer, too. Bunch of whining by poor mothe****ers who apparently
can't afford to splurge the extra 2 bones for the better bulb.

Quit whining and go get a job that pays more, losers.

John Smith December 28th 10 01:34 AM

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On 12/27/2010 5:09 PM, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS
wrote:
I got a bunch of 100w incandescent bulbs stored away. Everyone should
since you can buy them 4 for a dollar.


Unless I am attempting to heat my house in the winter, there are better
alternatives ...

Regards,
JS


Wayne December 28th 10 02:56 AM

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"Neoconis_Ignoramus" wrote in message
...
On Dec 27, 4:48 pm, ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote:
The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.

Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.

Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Ten-four!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...bs_coming_to_c...


I see no diff in incandescent vs. flourescent. The latter lasts a lot
longer, too. Bunch of whining by poor mothe****ers who apparently
can't afford to splurge the extra 2 bones for the better bulb.

Quit whining and go get a job that pays more, losers.

-
Every one of those "high efficiency" bulbs I have bought have been pieces of
crap....sensitive to direction of mounting, and limited life. There is no
way that a pile of those crappy bulbs in the trash bin is more efficient
than a single incandescent.



dave December 28th 10 03:17 AM

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On 12/27/2010 05:09 PM, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS
wrote:
I got a bunch of 100w incandescent bulbs stored away. Everyone should
since you can buy them 4 for a dollar.

For your Easy Bake Oven or what?

masonc December 28th 10 03:18 AM

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On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:48:19 -0800 (PST), ?baMa? Tse Dung
wrote:

The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.

Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.

Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Ten-four!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...ming_to_c.html

The California Appliance Efficiency Regulations also outlaws all
teapots smaller than 0.87 quarts. (Smaller ones are too inefficient.)






Sheldon Cooper December 28th 10 05:32 AM

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On Dec 27, 5:14Â*pm, Neoconis_Ignoramus
wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:48Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:



The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.


Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.


Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Â*Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Â*Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Â*Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Â*Ten-four!


http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...bs_coming_to_c...


I see no diff in incandescent vs. flourescent. Â*The latter lasts a lot
longer, too. Â*Bunch of whining by poor mothe****ers who apparently
can't afford to splurge the extra 2 bones for the better bulb.


Yeah, I remember when you assholes said the same sort of thing about
Ethonal. It was going to be better for the environment, it was going
to make America energy independent. It was going to be great.

Now, we find out that it's more expensive, it's actually MORE
poluting, it's crappy for the engines, and, oh my, it CAUSES MASS
STARVATION!!!!

Now we're being forced to buy light blubs that are toxic, more
expensive, fades artwork, furniture and wall paper, and tend to burn
out at about the same rate as real light bulbs.

Oh, and we're being insulted when we question this insane law.








Sheldon Cooper December 28th 10 05:34 AM

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On Dec 27, 7:55*pm, Ered China Luin wrote:
In article ,



*"Wayne" wrote:
"Neoconis_Ignoramus" wrote in message
...
On Dec 27, 4:48 pm, ?baMa? Tse Dung wrote:
The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.


Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.


Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Ten-four!


http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...bs_coming_to_c....


I see no diff in incandescent vs. flourescent. *The latter lasts a lot
longer, too. *Bunch of whining by poor mothe****ers who apparently
can't afford to splurge the extra 2 bones for the better bulb.


Quit whining and go get a job that pays more, losers.

-
Every one of those "high efficiency" bulbs I have bought have been pieces of
crap....sensitive to direction of mounting, and limited life. *There is no
way that a pile of those crappy bulbs in the trash bin is more efficient
than a single incandescent.


Do you have cite in California law that incandescent bulbs will be sold? I mean
other than one lone wingnut.


http://www.energy.ca.gov/2010publica...-2010-012..PDF



RHF December 28th 10 05:56 AM

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On Dec 27, 9:32Â*pm, Sheldon Cooper wrote:
On Dec 27, 5:14Â*pm, Neoconis_Ignoramus
wrote:



On Dec 27, 4:48Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:


The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.


Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.


Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Â*Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Â*Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Â*Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Â*Ten-four!


http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...bs_coming_to_c....


I see no diff in incandescent vs. flourescent. Â*The latter lasts a lot
longer, too. Â*Bunch of whining by poor mothe****ers who apparently
can't afford to splurge the extra 2 bones for the better bulb.


- Yeah, I remember when you assholes said the same sort of thing about
- Ethonal. Â*It was going to be better for the environment, it was
going
- to make America energy independent. Â*It was going to be great.

At 5% Ethanol a 20 Gallon Tank of Gas has
19 Gals of Imported Oil and 1 Gal of Domestic
Ethanol : That One Less Gal of Imported Oil
and I am OK with that. IMHO - The USA
should be moving to 85% Gas-A-Hol to reduce
Imported Oil by another 10%. ~ RHF

John Smith December 28th 10 05:59 AM

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On 12/27/2010 9:56 PM, RHF wrote:
... IMHO - The USA
should be moving to 85% Gas-A-Hol to reduce
Imported Oil by another 10%. ~ RHF
...


When anyone speaks of running their, or anothers', food though a gas
tank, you will have to excuse me, but I think FOOL!

Now, if they find a way to use sewage as a base to make alcohol out of,
I will accept that ...

Regards,
JS

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] December 28th 10 01:48 PM

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On 12/28/2010 2:48 AM, Ered China Luin wrote:

Do you have cite in California law that incandescent bulbs will be sold? I
mean
other than one lone wingnut.


Sheldon wrote:

http://www.energy.ca.gov/2010publica...0-2010-012.PDF


On 12/28/2010 2:48 AM, Ered China Luin wrote:

That's nice. Can't you refine it to a single paragraph?


a) He answered your request

b) The citation DOES have a Table of Contents

I would respectfully suggest that you do a -little- of your own homework.



Sid9[_2_] December 28th 10 01:51 PM

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"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 12/27/2010 9:56 PM, RHF wrote:
... IMHO - The USA
should be moving to 85% Gas-A-Hol to reduce
Imported Oil by another 10%. ~ RHF
...


When anyone speaks of running their, or anothers', food though a gas
tank, you will have to excuse me, but I think FOOL!

Now, if they find a way to use sewage as a base to make alcohol out of,
I will accept that ...

Regards,
JS

..
..
Is the shortage of food making Americans fat?



Sid9[_2_] December 28th 10 01:56 PM

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"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message
...
On 12/28/2010 2:48 AM, Ered China Luin wrote:

Do you have cite in California law that incandescent bulbs will be
sold? I
mean
other than one lone wingnut.


Sheldon wrote:

http://www.energy.ca.gov/2010publica...0-2010-012.PDF


On 12/28/2010 2:48 AM, Ered China Luin wrote:

That's nice. Can't you refine it to a single paragraph?


a) He answered your request

b) The citation DOES have a Table of Contents

I would respectfully suggest that you do a -little- of your own homework.


..
..
Looks like Federal standards....no ban in incandescent lamps, just
standards.



dave December 28th 10 02:26 PM

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On 12/27/2010 09:32 PM, Sheldon Cooper wrote:


Yeah, I remember when you assholes said the same sort of thing about
Ethonal. It was going to be better for the environment, it was going
to make America energy independent. It was going to be great.

Now, we find out that it's more expensive, it's actually MORE
poluting, it's crappy for the engines, and, oh my, it CAUSES MASS
STARVATION!!!!

Now we're being forced to buy light blubs that are toxic, more
expensive, fades artwork, furniture and wall paper, and tend to burn
out at about the same rate as real light bulbs.

Oh, and we're being insulted when we question this insane law.

The only people pushing ethanol were corn producers and Iowa
legislators. Personally, I'm against burning anything.

I have CFLs over 10 years in service. Can't afford any art work or
wallpaper however.

dave December 28th 10 02:32 PM

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 
On 12/27/2010 09:34 PM, Sheldon Cooper wrote:


Do you have cite in California law that incandescent bulbs will be sold? I mean
other than one lone wingnut.


http://www.energy.ca.gov/2010publica...0-2010-012.PDF


You didn't read it did you?

[email protected] December 28th 10 02:41 PM

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I don't like ethanol either.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Researchers develope reactor to make fuel from Sunlight

Speaking of cars,,,
devilfinder.com
Chrysler to revive hot Plymouth Barracuda
cuhulin


Sid9[_2_] December 28th 10 04:08 PM

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"dave" wrote in message
. ..
On 12/28/2010 05:51 AM, Sid9 wrote:

.
Is the shortage of food making Americans fat?



They are fat because they eat too much meat. Way too much meat. The more
beef you eat the more you look like a steer.

..
..
You deleted all the previous and changed the subject.

The OP asserted that Ethanol as a fuel is depriving people of food.

That was a change from the claimed issue of California and light bulbs the
subject of this thread.

An issue that seem to be false since the standards for light bulbs that
were cited did not come from California's government.

What do you have to say about the subject of this thread?



Wayne December 28th 10 04:23 PM

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"masonc" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:48:19 -0800 (PST), ?baMa? Tse Dung
wrote:

The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.

Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.

Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Ten-four!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...ming_to_c.html

The California Appliance Efficiency Regulations also outlaws all
teapots smaller than 0.87 quarts. (Smaller ones are too inefficient.)

Really! WTF. I get around that with my Sunbeam Hot Shot....boils 2 cups
in about a minute.



[email protected] December 28th 10 04:33 PM

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I have a little old electric heater thingy I bought at Goodwill store
years ago.It isn't a cheaply made thingy.It has a heating element in a
metal tube.Plug it in and it will get a quart of water HOT faster than
you can think about it.
cuhulin


dave December 28th 10 04:45 PM

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On 12/28/2010 05:48 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 12/28/2010 2:48 AM, Ered China Luin wrote:

Do you have cite in California law that incandescent bulbs will be
sold? I
mean
other than one lone wingnut.


Sheldon wrote:

http://www.energy.ca.gov/2010publica...0-2010-012.PDF


On 12/28/2010 2:48 AM, Ered China Luin wrote:

That's nice. Can't you refine it to a single paragraph?


a) He answered your request

b) The citation DOES have a Table of Contents

I would respectfully suggest that you do a -little- of your own homework.


Wow. The guy with 2 last names has a lawyer.


dave December 28th 10 04:47 PM

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 
On 12/28/2010 05:51 AM, Sid9 wrote:

.
Is the shortage of food making Americans fat?



They are fat because they eat too much meat. Way too much meat. The more
beef you eat the more you look like a steer.

m II December 28th 10 05:09 PM

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On 10-12-28 09:45 AM, dave wrote:

Wow. The guy with 2 last names has a lawyer.



Is that unusual?


mikey darrow-bryan





John Smith December 28th 10 05:18 PM

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On 12/28/2010 5:51 AM, Sid9 wrote:

...
Is the shortage of food making Americans fat?



Debatable, however shortages of education are making them fools, like you!

ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

[email protected] December 28th 10 05:37 PM

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Ann-Margret.Two first names?
I saw her in person with Bob Hope's U.S.O.show at Shannon Wright
Compound (near Vinh Long) in 1964.
cuhulin


Joe from Kokomo[_2_] December 28th 10 05:57 PM

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On 12/28/2010 12:32 AM, Sheldon Cooper wrote:

Now we're being forced to buy light blubs that are toxic,


Well, the fluorescent 4 foot tubes that we have been using for the last
fifty years contain waaay more mercury than than the CFLs, but
surprisingly, no one is wetting their pants over those tubes.

Finally, because the CFLs use way less electricity, the POWER PLANTS put
a lot less mercury in the environment. So looking at the big picture and
the total environment, CFLs add way less mercury burden.

more expensive,


Yes, they are more expensive -- newer technology, longer life (see
below). You get what you pay for.

fades artwork, furniture and wall paper,


Why? Same number of lumens output as the incandescents that they replace
and the same color temperature (in degrees Kelvin) of the incandescents
they replace. No scientific reason in the world why they would make
things fade faster. This "complaint" is pure hokum.

and tend to burn out at about the same rate as real light bulbs.


Not true unless you are buying the really, really cheap "Brand X" CFLs.
It is a -proven- fact that decent CFLs have a much longer life than
incandescents.

D. Peter Maus[_2_] December 28th 10 06:19 PM

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On 12/28/10 11:57 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:


fades artwork, furniture and wall paper,


Why? Same number of lumens output as the incandescents that they replace
and the same color temperature (in degrees Kelvin) of the incandescents
they replace. No scientific reason in the world why they would make
things fade faster. This "complaint" is pure hokum.


Actually, it's not.

Flourescents do not produce the same spectra as incandescents.
They may have the same average color temperature, but like white
LED's, with a higher blue and UV output than incandescents, the
'warm' white color temperature, is achieved by adding red output to
the phosphor until the average color temperature is about the same
as an incandescent, and the eye can't discern a difference. The
average is the same, but the actual spectra produced are
dramatically different.

Yes, flourescents do promote more rapid fading, depending on the
pigments exposed.




and tend to burn out at about the same rate as real light bulbs.


Not true unless you are buying the really, really cheap "Brand X" CFLs.
It is a -proven- fact that decent CFLs have a much longer life than
incandescents.


I have had to replace my CFL's at about the same rate as average
price incandescents. Brand appears to be irrelevant. Cheap generic,
or branded GE and Philips, the failure rate is about the same.

In fact, the longest life bulb I've ever used was Halogena by
Philips. More than twice the life of any CFL's I've used, or Philips
non-halogen tungsten.




[email protected] December 28th 10 06:20 PM

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 
Wait untill Bootleg Shootin Irons.
Durn Tootin! ~ George ''Gabby'' Hayes.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 28th 10 06:54 PM

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 
When I went over to my sisters and brother in law's house on Christmas
day, I looked up at those two light fixtures in their living room/dining
room area.One of those light fixtures (dining room) I counted seven
twirly CFLs, the light fixture in their living room with the ceiling
fan, I think there were five of those twirly CFLs.They were Bright! too.

http://www.devilfinder.com
More creepy stuff Ceiling lights send coded internet data

Also at http://www.rense.com

A guy said his butt sends coded data and his wife leaves the room
immediately.
cuhulin


John Smith December 28th 10 06:59 PM

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On 12/28/2010 10:19 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

...
Yes, flourescents do promote more rapid fading, depending on the
pigments exposed.
...


If fluorescents provide that type of attack on the chemical coloring,
oxidation, weakening of bonds, etc., then I would expect an equal attack
on bacteria organisms ... perhaps a noticeable germicidal effect ...
wow, maybe my lights are giving me added benefits!

Regards,
JS

m II December 28th 10 07:07 PM

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On 10-12-28 11:59 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 12/28/2010 10:19 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

...
Yes, flourescents do promote more rapid fading, depending on the
pigments exposed.
...


If fluorescents provide that type of attack on the chemical coloring,
oxidation, weakening of bonds, etc., then I would expect an equal attack
on bacteria organisms ... perhaps a noticeable germicidal effect ...
wow, maybe my lights are giving me added benefits!

Regards,
JS


Fluorescent lights have been known to degrade food quality in the
stores. Clear/translucent plastic containers for milk or juice help the
process. Vegetables and fruits also suffer. Nourishment is secondary to
a sales promoting display.

RHF will be along in a moment to accuse me of practicing anti-lumenism
and then provide sixty links referring to himself referring to himself
as the True Light.



mike

masonc December 28th 10 07:46 PM

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An Alternative:

Install dimmers on all incandescent switches.
Install incandescent bulbs for bright lighting when needed.
Most of the time there's no need for full lighting so use the dimmers.

Result: Less electricity used. Bulbs last "forever."
(Incidentally the efficiency is lower -- so what?)

--
masonc

John Smith December 28th 10 07:54 PM

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On 12/28/2010 11:46 AM, masonc wrote:
An Alternative:

Install dimmers on all incandescent switches.
Install incandescent bulbs for bright lighting when needed.
Most of the time there's no need for full lighting so use the dimmers.

Result: Less electricity used. Bulbs last "forever."
(Incidentally the efficiency is lower -- so what?)


Dimmers introduce too much noise, causes problems with various
receivers, in some cases, even wireless networks ...

Regards,
JS


D Peter Maus[_2_] December 28th 10 08:04 PM

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On 12/28/10 13:54 , John Smith wrote:
On 12/28/2010 11:46 AM, masonc wrote:
An Alternative:

Install dimmers on all incandescent switches.
Install incandescent bulbs for bright lighting when needed.
Most of the time there's no need for full lighting so use the dimmers.

Result: Less electricity used. Bulbs last "forever."
(Incidentally the efficiency is lower -- so what?)


Dimmers introduce too much noise, causes problems with various
receivers, in some cases, even wireless networks ...

Regards,
JS



Quality dimmers don't produce these artifacts.





John Smith December 28th 10 08:08 PM

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On 12/28/2010 12:04 PM, D Peter Maus wrote:

...
Quality dimmers don't produce these artifacts.
...


I have spent $1.98 on a dimmer and I have spent $30.00 on a dimmer, I
see no real difference.

However, I will admit, even CFL's generate noise (and some are worse
than others, and old, failing units can be worse of all.) I took a
weekend and placed a .001 uf, .01, and .1 -- 1,000 volt caps across all
my lights ... the noise is now insignificant ...

Regards,
JS

Jane_Galt December 28th 10 08:35 PM

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Should be interesting when they ban incandescents and people go to replace
the headlights in their car, and find they can no longer see the street at
night.


--
- Jane Galt

The reason that Progressivism-Socialism-Communism always fail, is that you
eventually run out of other peoples' money.

Daniel[_3_] December 28th 10 08:56 PM

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On Dec 27, 8:14Â*pm, Neoconis_Ignoramus
wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:48Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:









The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.


Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.


Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Â*Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Â*Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Â*Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Â*Ten-four!


http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...bs_coming_to_c...


I see no diff in incandescent vs. flourescent. Â*The latter lasts a lot
longer, too. Â*Bunch of whining by poor mothe****ers who apparently
can't afford to splurge the extra 2 bones for the better bulb.




You must have missed the part about the toxic mercury in the
flourescent bulbs, and how you van't just throw them in the trash when
they burn out. But go ahead, spend your extra $2 for lights that don't
light as well, and are a toxic hazard.

Daniel[_3_] December 28th 10 08:57 PM

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On Dec 28, 12:56Â*am, RHF wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:32Â*pm, Sheldon Cooper wrote:







On Dec 27, 5:14Â*pm, Neoconis_Ignoramus
wrote:


On Dec 27, 4:48Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:


The California Energy Commission in September 2010 published its 226-
page Appliance Efficiency Regulations, whereby the 100-watt
incandescent light bulb will be outlawed at midnight on December 31,
2010.


Imagine 100-watt incandescent light bulbs as contraband in California
-- persona non gratis -- but illegal immigrants get free tuition --
amigo de bienvenida.


Smuggling bootleg light bulbs into California would be a piece of
cake. Â*Just stuff them inside bales of marijuana. Â*Or line up eight
packs in the cargo bays of Greyhound buses carrying illegals on the
express lane from Tijuana to any of two dozen sanctuary cities. Â*Hey,
wave 'em on in, there's nothing to check there! Â*Ten-four!


http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...bs_coming_to_c...


I see no diff in incandescent vs. flourescent. Â*The latter lasts a lot
longer, too. Â*Bunch of whining by poor mothe****ers who apparently
can't afford to splurge the extra 2 bones for the better bulb.


- Yeah, I remember when you assholes said the same sort of thing about
- Ethonal. Â*It was going to be better for the environment, it was
going
- to make America energy independent. Â*It was going to be great.

At 5% Ethanol a 20 Gallon Tank of Gas has
19 Gals of Imported Oil and 1 Gal of Domestic
Ethanol : That One Less Gal of Imported Oil
and I am OK with that. Â*IMHO - The USA
should be moving to 85% Gas-A-Hol to reduce
Imported Oil by another 10%. ~ RHF
Â*.



You DO know that your messiah, algore has finally admitted that
ethanol is a scam, right?

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] December 28th 10 09:04 PM

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 

On 12/28/10 11:57 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:


fades artwork, furniture and wall paper,


Why? Same number of lumens output as the incandescents that they
replace and the same color temperature (in degrees Kelvin) of the
incandescents they replace. No scientific reason in the world why
they would make things fade faster. This "complaint" is pure
hokum.


On 12/28/2010 1:19 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Actually, it's not.

Flourescents do not produce the same spectra as incandescents. They
may have the same average color temperature, but like white LED's,
with a higher blue and UV output than incandescents, the 'warm' white
color temperature, is achieved by adding red output to the phosphor
until the average color temperature is about the same as an
incandescent, and the eye can't discern a difference. The average is
the same, but the actual spectra produced are dramatically
different.


Yes, flourescents do promote more rapid fading, depending on the
pigments exposed.


Color temperature is a quantitative measure. The higher the number in
kelvins, the more blue the shade. Variations and inconsistencies exist
among manufacturers. For example, some CFLs have a color temperature of
3,500 K [relatively low UV/fading], while other lamps with a daylight
label have color temperatures of at least 5,000 K [higher blue/UV]. Your
particular mileage may vary, but fading with CFLs does not HAVE to be an
issue.

and tend to burn out at about the same rate as real light bulbs.


Not true unless you are buying the really, really cheap "Brand X"
CFLs. It is a -proven- fact that decent CFLs have a much longer
life than incandescents.


On 12/28/2010 1:19 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

I have had to replace my CFL's at about the same rate as average
price incandescents. Brand appears to be irrelevant. Cheap generic,
or branded GE and Philips, the failure rate is about the same.

In fact, the longest life bulb I've ever used was Halogena by
Philips. More than twice the life of any CFL's I've used, or Philips
non-halogen tungsten.


The average rated life of a CFL is between 8 and 15 times that of
incandescents. CFLs typically have a rated lifespan of between 6,000 and
15,000 hours, whereas incandescent lamps are usually manufactured to
have a lifespan of 750 hours or 1,000 hours. With -either- type of bulb,
longevity will be related to the line voltage and how rapidly the bulbs
are off/on cycled. However, given identical voltage and cycling, CFLs
are clearly superior in terms of life. It is unclear why you are having
such bad luck.

m II December 28th 10 11:26 PM

Bootleg Lightbulbs Coming to California
 
On 10-12-28 04:04 PM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

I was considering UV lights in restaurants that wash the kitchen in UV
at night to combat e-coli and other germs... I guessing it's already
out there. But NOT in the strength I was thinking maybe even for roach
bug and rat control.

Blind the rats and cook the roaches strategically place the lights to so
that there are NO shaded places.

And it can double as a tanning booth....



Tanned roaches with a light cream sauce sound like a delicacy...be
careful not to overcook, there has to be the slightest crunch
remaining..Keep the garlic butter in the frying pan just hot enough not
to smoke.




mike


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