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March 6th 11, 12:13 AM
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Equality For All Workers *NOT* Special Privileges and Benefits ForCity, County and State Employees
On Mar 5, 5:55*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 3/4/11 19:28 , Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 3/4/2011 2:01 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote: There's nothing that says those fortunes can't change, but the truth is, that the people of Wisconsin are behind the Governor. Well, that theory of yours would not explain why the NBC / Wall Street Journal poll showed that 77% of the people think public unions SHOULD be allowed to have collective bargaining. * *Interesting what you eliminate, when you quote these surveys. 77% of the peeople believe public sector unions should have collective bargaining privileges (it's a privilege, not a right), but that same survey revealed that 60%+ believe that there should not be public sector unions in the first place, and that 3:1 they believe that the budget must be balanced and that public sector union benefits are to blame for a lion's share of the shortfall. * *So, again, the people are behind the Governor. At least right now. And the Dems In Exile are fast falling from grace with now talks about recall elections to remove the Dems from office. To say nothing of all the talk to recall the Republican governor from office. * *Interesting also what the skew is on that. But keep swinging, Joe. Which, actually, may be unnecessary. If they remain out of the state long enough, they'll run afoul of existing laws and will lose their offices, anyway. And that deadline is closing fast. They claim they're working, while away, and are protected from the desertion clauses, but that may be sophistry. If they claim they're working, but are not available (in mass, yet), to vote on pending legislation, then the law says they're not working. And the people are in agreement. But here's the part that's really sticking in the public craw...The Democrats are remaining out of state to avoid facing a vote they will most certainly lose. They may well lose, but they are trying to stick up for the middle class. * *No, they're not. They're trying to stick up for political contributors. As you seem to be on the side of Governor Walker, let me present you with some facts and ask you a question *Apparently, you see no problem with teachers, nurses, librarians, policemen and firemen losing their rights. * *No one is losing any rights. Only a privilege that even George Meaney of the AFL-CIO said they had no business getting in the first place. and he said that decades ago. *What about Walker trying to *ram rod* through in record time this bill that also has a NO-BID clause for the state s power plants. This should be patently illegal for either party. No-bid is just an invitation for corruption. *Even though the David Koch was a fake, the point is that Walker believed- he was real. Legitimate people with legitimate government business cannot get through to the governor on the first call and get 20 minutes of his uninterrupted time like "Koch" did. * *Really? * *I did. This would seem to indicate that Walker thinks the Koch brothers are his true bosses. * *Sophistry. I heard the playback of the call. He sounded like he was massaging a contributor. No different than NPR taking calls from patrons, making promises on programming they have no intention of keeping, and then ignoring that programming once the checks clear. *In this same bill, Walker is removing the salary income price cap on vouchers for private schools. This would allow children of the wealthy to attend private schools at tax payer's expense. * *No, it would allow citizens to send their children to private school without having to pay for the public schools at the same time. No one should have to pay the costs of a system that they're currently paying exorbitant rates not to use. * *Regardless of income. * *Let the public schools compete for their tuition, just like the private schools. If they're not doing the job, they don't deserve the support, anyway. |
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