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On 3/6/2011 1:02 AM, RHF wrote:

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The Economic Tipping Point Has Passed
~translation~ YOU LOSE !


Well I'm sure that the 2000+ stations broadcasting in HD, the
multi-national automobile manufacturers, and the receiver manufacturers
are operating in fear of a hysterical blog by an anonymous and clueless
individual, and a page on a web site of a personal injury law firm in
New Jersey that complains that the range of digital radio signals is
insufficient because one of the principals purchased a vehicle with an
HD Radio and didn't realize that it was not the same as satellite radio.

If that's the best that those opposed to digital radio can do, then
digital radio has a very bright future indeed.

The fact is that digital radio is all about content and a lack of
monthly fees. The lack of multipath interference is a plus, but the same
thing that sells satellite radio and Pandora is what's driving adoption
of digital radio, except that digital radio doesn't have a recurring
monthly charge.

If you look at what radio stations are doing with their HD sub-channels
it's adding more content, especially content where the audience isn't
sufficient to warrant continuing the genre on the main station. Even if
the audio quality could technically be better on analog FM, in practice,
the sound quality and lack of interference, even at a lower bit rate on
the sub-channels, still provides a superior product in most cases than
analog FM.
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SMS wrote:
On 3/6/2011 1:02 AM, RHF wrote:

snip

The Economic Tipping Point Has Passed
~translation~ YOU LOSE !


Well I'm sure that the 2000+ stations broadcasting in HD, the
multi-national automobile manufacturers, and the receiver manufacturers
are operating in fear of a hysterical blog by an anonymous and clueless
individual, and a page on a web site of a personal injury law firm in
New Jersey that complains that the range of digital radio signals is
insufficient because one of the principals purchased a vehicle with an
HD Radio and didn't realize that it was not the same as satellite radio.

If that's the best that those opposed to digital radio can do, then
digital radio has a very bright future indeed.


Now there's spin if ever I heard it.
I don't remember hearing about any legal suits against Woolworth's
stores here in the UK, so by your logic they also should have had a very
bright future indeed. And yet they still went Bankrupt.

Having no strong legal suits against a company, doesn't automatically
make them a success, that it just pure spin.

For digital radio to be a success, it needs to get the public interested
in buying receivers and in using them. So far (judging from what I've
ready here) the sales of HD-Radio receivers has been tiny. I accept that
sales might increase (as I can't prove otherwise), but that hasn't
happened yet. So you can't yet claim that digital radio has been a
success, and you can not assume that it is going to be a success, and
you can not claim that it has a bright future. At least not without some
strong evidence to back it up, and so far I've not seen any such strong
evidence, just a lot of spin from people like you.

The fact is that digital radio is all about content and a lack of
monthly fees. The lack of multipath interference is a plus, but the same
thing that sells satellite radio and Pandora is what's driving adoption
of digital radio, except that digital radio doesn't have a recurring
monthly charge.


They tried to see us DAB based upon content here in the UK, and that
approach hasn't worked. The forecasts for DAB listening figures keep on
having to be revised down, and it's actually got to the point where
sales grown of often negative. The sales of DAB receivers seems to have
levelled off, while only a small minority of people are listening to it.


If you look at what radio stations are doing with their HD sub-channels
it's adding more content, especially content where the audience isn't
sufficient to warrant continuing the genre on the main station. Even if
the audio quality could technically be better on analog FM, in practice,
the sound quality and lack of interference, even at a lower bit rate on
the sub-channels, still provides a superior product in most cases than
analog FM.


Still more spin, but no sign of significant receiver sales.

Richard E.
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On Mar 6, 10:00*am, SMS wrote:
On 3/6/2011 1:02 AM, RHF wrote:

snip

The Economic Tipping Point Has Passed
~translation~ YOU LOSE !


Well I'm sure that the 2000+ stations broadcasting in HD, the
multi-national automobile manufacturers, and the receiver manufacturers
are operating in fear of a hysterical blog by an anonymous and clueless
individual, and a page on a web site of a personal injury law firm in
New Jersey that complains that the range of digital radio signals is
insufficient because one of the principals purchased a vehicle with an
HD Radio and didn't realize that it was not the same as satellite radio.

If that's the best that those opposed to digital radio can do, then
digital radio has a very bright future indeed.

The fact is that digital radio is all about content and a lack of
monthly fees. The lack of multipath interference is a plus, but the same
thing that sells satellite radio and Pandora is what's driving adoption
of digital radio, except that digital radio doesn't have a recurring
monthly charge.

If you look at what radio stations are doing with their HD sub-channels
it's adding more content, especially content where the audience isn't
sufficient to warrant continuing the genre on the main station. Even if
the audio quality could technically be better on analog FM, in practice,
the sound quality and lack of interference, even at a lower bit rate on
the sub-channels, still provides a superior product in most cases than
analog FM.


According to the FCC database only 1800+ stations have converted, not
the 2100 iBiquity claims, and a number of them have turned off IBOC.
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On Mar 6, 10:00*am, SMS wrote:
On 3/6/2011 1:02 AM, RHF wrote:

snip

The Economic Tipping Point Has Passed
~translation~ YOU LOSE !


Well I'm sure that the 2000+ stations broadcasting in HD, the
multi-national automobile manufacturers, and the receiver manufacturers
are operating in fear of a hysterical blog by an anonymous and clueless
individual, and a page on a web site of a personal injury law firm in
New Jersey that complains that the range of digital radio signals is
insufficient because one of the principals purchased a vehicle with an
HD Radio and didn't realize that it was not the same as satellite radio.

If that's the best that those opposed to digital radio can do, then
digital radio has a very bright future indeed.

The fact is that digital radio is all about content and a lack of
monthly fees. The lack of multipath interference is a plus, but the same
thing that sells satellite radio and Pandora is what's driving adoption
of digital radio, except that digital radio doesn't have a recurring
monthly charge.

If you look at what radio stations are doing with their HD sub-channels
it's adding more content, especially content where the audience isn't
sufficient to warrant continuing the genre on the main station. Even if
the audio quality could technically be better on analog FM, in practice,
the sound quality and lack of interference, even at a lower bit rate on
the sub-channels, still provides a superior product in most cases than
analog FM.


"Well I'm sure that the 2000+ stations broadcasting in HD, the
multi-national automobile manufacturers, and the receiver
manufacturers
are operating in fear of a hysterical blog by an anonymous and
clueless
individual, and a page on a web site of a personal injury law firm in
New Jersey that complains that the range of digital radio signals is
insufficient because one of the principals purchased a vehicle with
an
HD Radio and didn't realize that it was not the same as satellite
radio."

You wouldn't be spending so much time bashing me and my blog, if you
weren't so worried. I see that you visit my blog obsessively from West
Virginia.
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On Mar 6, 10:41*am, iBiquity Fraudsters
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On Mar 6, 10:00*am, SMS wrote:





On 3/6/2011 1:02 AM, RHF wrote:


snip


The Economic Tipping Point Has Passed
~translation~ YOU LOSE !


Well I'm sure that the 2000+ stations broadcasting in HD, the
multi-national automobile manufacturers, and the receiver manufacturers
are operating in fear of a hysterical blog by an anonymous and clueless
individual, and a page on a web site of a personal injury law firm in
New Jersey that complains that the range of digital radio signals is
insufficient because one of the principals purchased a vehicle with an
HD Radio and didn't realize that it was not the same as satellite radio..


If that's the best that those opposed to digital radio can do, then
digital radio has a very bright future indeed.


The fact is that digital radio is all about content and a lack of
monthly fees. The lack of multipath interference is a plus, but the same
thing that sells satellite radio and Pandora is what's driving adoption
of digital radio, except that digital radio doesn't have a recurring
monthly charge.


If you look at what radio stations are doing with their HD sub-channels
it's adding more content, especially content where the audience isn't
sufficient to warrant continuing the genre on the main station. Even if
the audio quality could technically be better on analog FM, in practice,
the sound quality and lack of interference, even at a lower bit rate on
the sub-channels, still provides a superior product in most cases than
analog FM.


"Well I'm sure that the 2000+ stations broadcasting in HD, the
multi-national automobile manufacturers, and the receiver
manufacturers
are operating in fear of a hysterical blog by an anonymous and
clueless
individual, and a page on a web site of a personal injury law firm in
New Jersey that complains that the range of digital radio signals is
insufficient because one of the principals purchased a vehicle with
an
HD Radio and didn't realize that it was not the same as satellite
radio."

You wouldn't be spending so much time bashing me and my blog, if you
weren't so worried. I see that you visit my blog obsessively from West
Virginia.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Now, it's two law firms working in concert. I talked with Keefe's
office about a month ago (we are in email contact with him, and I just
fed him information about Microsoft's and iBiquity's fraud to sell the
Zune HD in Canada where there are zero HD Radio stations), and they
indicated they were having a conference call with a bunch of
"experts". I wouldn't be surprised to see more specialized
communications law firms getting involved. Broadcasters are already
involved. There is so much iBiquity deception and fraud to investigate.


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Where, oh where? is Eduardo to chime in on that.
cuhulin

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Where, oh where? is Eduardo to chime in on that.
cuhulin


"Dwardo's all over it. But you knew that.
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dave wrote:

On 03/06/2011 08:46 AM, wrote:
Where, oh where? is Eduardo to chime in on that.
cuhulin


"Dwardo's all over it. But you knew that.


'Eduardo' is a clown 'tard whose mommy sent him away because he was an
embarrassment to the family.

She also fronted him the $$ for his Ecuadorian adventures.

Bet on it.


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On Mar 6, 10:00*am, SMS wrote:
On 3/6/2011 1:02 AM, RHF wrote:

snip

The Economic Tipping Point Has Passed
~translation~ YOU LOSE !


Well I'm sure that the 2000+ stations broadcasting in HD, the
multi-national automobile manufacturers, and the receiver manufacturers
are operating in fear of a hysterical blog by an anonymous and clueless
individual, and a page on a web site of a personal injury law firm in
New Jersey that complains that the range of digital radio signals is
insufficient because one of the principals purchased a vehicle with an
HD Radio and didn't realize that it was not the same as satellite radio.

If that's the best that those opposed to digital radio can do, then
digital radio has a very bright future indeed.

The fact is that digital radio is all about content and a lack of
monthly fees. The lack of multipath interference is a plus, but the same
thing that sells satellite radio and Pandora is what's driving adoption
of digital radio, except that digital radio doesn't have a recurring
monthly charge.

If you look at what radio stations are doing with their HD sub-channels
it's adding more content, especially content where the audience isn't
sufficient to warrant continuing the genre on the main station. Even if
the audio quality could technically be better on analog FM, in practice,
the sound quality and lack of interference, even at a lower bit rate on
the sub-channels, still provides a superior product in most cases than
analog FM.


"If you look at what radio stations are doing with their HD sub-channels
it's adding more content, especially content where the audience isn't
sufficient to warrant continuing the genre on the main station."


"HD Radio Increasing Format Diversity?"

"From there, we can derive that 15% - or a whopping 130 multicast
channels - exist right now that might actually offer up something new
to a listener lucky enough to be in that innovative market (and
equipped with the proper receiver, which in itself is an interesting
story), as opposed to a derivation on the same-old."

http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0809.htm#082509

Only 15% of HD channels, if they haven't been tuned off already, are
offering anything new.
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On 3/6/11 09:00 , SMS wrote:

The fact is that digital radio is all about content and a lack of
monthly fees.



The content on digital subchannels is no different than the
content on the baseband. A different shuffling of the records, but
the same records as are heard elsewhere.

And as for monthly fees....conditional access has been under test
for more than a year, now. And that IS the goal of digital radio.
It's been the holy grail of broadcast since KDKA. Digital doesn't
make it possible. But digital does make it practical.

Public interest is still waning for HD radio, and more stations
are turning off the IBOC transmitters across the country every
month. Audio quality is poor and coverage is spotty.

And no, it's not a philosophical difference that has most in
opposition to HD Radio, it's the interference, the lesser audio
quality for the addition of programming that's no different than
what's on the baseband that's got so many people opposed.

Your protests to the contrary not withstanding, HD Radio is not a
growth industry.







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