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On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
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On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.

Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.

Who created the Microsoft Wealth? Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.



What does your Operating system say?


That's who created it.



Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.
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On Mar 24, 12:03*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:





On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. *Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


What does your Operating system say?

That's who created it.

Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Again, concentrating wealth. It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. You cannot get something from nothing.
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Default Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !

On 3/24/2011 3:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:03 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:





On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


What does your Operating system say?

That's who created it.

Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Again, concentrating wealth. It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. You cannot get something from nothing.


NOT true at all....

wealth is a measure of both "need and work" wealth is stored work that
has value. If the stored work becomes useless to anyone then it has
zero value and is no longer wealth.


Wealth can be gold or it can be a painting or it can be the copywrite
ownership of Windows-7.


The day Windows-8 is released, then Windows-7 will NOT represent as much
wealth.


Soon the U.S. dollar will NO longer be a symbol of wealth, they will
have diminishing value to each of us and will not retain wealth because
they are not of value to people.... while a can of soup may be of more
value than all the dollars you can carry. Owning cans of soup may be
real wealth while owning cash is like having a pet rock.






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On Mar 24, 1:09*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 3:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:



On Mar 24, 12:03 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:


On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. *Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


What does your Operating system say?


That's who created it.


Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Again, concentrating wealth. *It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. *The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. *The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. *You cannot get something from nothing.


NOT true at all....

wealth is a measure of both "need and work" *wealth is stored work that
has value. *If the stored work becomes useless to anyone then it has
zero value and is no longer wealth.

Wealth can be gold or it can be a painting or it can be the copywrite
ownership of Windows-7.

The day Windows-8 is released, then Windows-7 will NOT represent as much
wealth.

Soon the U.S. dollar will NO longer be a symbol of wealth, they will
have diminishing value to each of us and will not retain wealth because
they are not of value to people.... *while a can of soup may be of more
value than all the dollars you can carry. *Owning cans of soup may be
real wealth while owning cash is like having a pet rock.


Yeah Soon with One Can of Old Campbell's Soup : You
Will Be Able To Buy $20 Old {Devalued} US Dollars
-or- One New and Improved Barack Obama Dollar [$1BOD]
-aka- One "BO" Buck -wrt- This Economy Sticks !

now is that true... 'no' ...but soon it may be ~ RHF
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Default Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !

On Mar 24, 1:09*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 3:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:





On Mar 24, 12:03 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:


On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. *Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


What does your Operating system say?


That's who created it.


Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Again, concentrating wealth. *It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. *The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. *The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. *You cannot get something from nothing.


NOT true at all....

wealth is a measure of both "need and work" *wealth is stored work that
has value. *If the stored work becomes useless to anyone then it has
zero value and is no longer wealth.

Wealth can be gold or it can be a painting or it can be the copywrite
ownership of Windows-7.

The day Windows-8 is released, then Windows-7 will NOT represent as much
wealth.

Soon the U.S. dollar will NO longer be a symbol of wealth, they will
have diminishing value to each of us and will not retain wealth because
they are not of value to people.... *while a can of soup may be of more
value than all the dollars you can carry. *Owning cans of soup may be
real wealth while owning cash is like having a pet rock.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Right - Windows 8 will grab that wealth from Windows 7, and MS will
divert yet more wealth from people who might otherwise be satisfied
with what they have. MS gets richer, the rest of us get poorer.
Redistribution and reconcentration. It ain't new, it's just
repackaged.

Cans of soup are produced by the earth with human energy added (which
also came from the earth). If it represents wealth, it's the wealth
of the entire Earth, which then only makes up its loss when humans die
and go back to it.


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On Mar 24, 12:48*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
Again, concentrating wealth. *It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. *The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. *The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. *You cannot get something from nothing.


In many cases the value is in the structure of the resource rather
than the resource itself. We wouldn't not think to eat again today
the resources we so gladly ate yesterday.

If it were not for our economic structure I would say who did what
was a waste of time and emotional effort. I feel we are indeed played
as pawns by people who create misery for their own happiness. It
is a pithetic life for which we all pay. The seven deadly sins are
wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony. At times I get
quite peeved by those who promote a path towards these sins.

By moving towards technologies that utilize renewable resources
(it's the structure that matters) we make our lives easier. This
morning a woman said with pride how plentify hispanics have
become in the US. I care not about the racial mix but the growth
in our population to achieve it. People who buy into the notion of
strife for a better life create that strife. The more of us there are
the greater the need for usable resources. A move towards
renewable resources doesn't make our life easier if it is offset
by increased population. People have to envision the world they
would like to see real before it can be achieved. If that means
a world of winners and losers then that's the world we will have.
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On Mar 24, 12:48*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:03*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-



wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:


On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. *Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


What does your Operating system say?


That's who created it.


Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


- Again, concentrating wealth. *It has nothing to do with who made the
- operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
- the expense of anyone else. *The only way the human race gains
wealth
- is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the
earth
- loses something. *The resource is finite, and only its
redistribution
- decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
- yourself otherwise. *You cannot get something from nothing.

BpnJ - In General We Agree ) ~ RHF

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On Mar 24, 12:03*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:



On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


- - He did not create it so much as concentrate it.
- - Now, he's beginning to spread it around again...
- - but still, not creating it.

- What does your Operating system say?
-
- That's who created it.
-
- Others were created but they are not creating
- as much wealth.

BG@MS Did NOT 'Create' The Wealth :

The Wealth Existed and was Distributed more Evenly
and Equability across the Customer Population
{Wealth Base}

BG@MS Did Promoted, Refined and Monopolized
a Set of Products and Services to that Customer
Population {Wealth Base} -and- Those Customers
Freely Redistributed Their Wealth {by Buy/Buyers/
Buying} from&to BG@MS and MS Corp.

BG@MS and MS Corp Simply Aggregated {Collected
and Concentrate} the Wealth of Others {The Customer
Wealth Base} to Himself and MS Corp.

It Is Time For BG@MS To Give Back {Pay-Back} This
Redistributed Wealth To That Very Same Customer
Population {Wealth Base}
* BG@MS Can Keep a Billion Dollars for Himself;
Plus a Billion Dollars for Misses BG; and a Billion
Dollars for each of the BG Children (3) :
That's 5 Billion Dollars :
But the Rest of the Billions Should Be Redistributed
{Paid-Back} To The Customer Population {Wealth Base}
In The Name of Economic Social Justice For All.

Power {Wealth} To The Customers/Consumers !
{ From Whom All Redistributed Wealth Flows }

and that's the way 'i' see it ~ RHF
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Old country from Edwards,Missy Sippy! was mowing his yard a little while
ago with his pawn shop Smoking lawn mower.(smokers!!!) I mowed my front
yard last Sunday.So, about an hour ago I cranked up one of my lawn
mowers and I mowed my back yard.My lawn mowers do not smoke.
He BROKE my chainsaw.He pushed his pawn shop over here, he said,,, Show
me where that lawn mower oil drain plug is!
Maybe tomorrow, I will push my lawn mower around to my front yard and
clean it up and polish it.Make it Shine just like brand spankin NEW!
cuhulin, my lawn mowers and my other vehicles do not smoke



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