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RHF March 24th 11 10:50 AM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 20, 10:49*am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/20/2011 9:46 AM, dave wrote:



On 03/19/2011 05:18 PM, pyjamarama wrote:
On Mar 19, 8:14 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:49:26 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung


*wrote:
Let us pledge to each other, with this Great Lady looking on, that we
can, and so help us God, we will make America great again.


Then within a few years---the ****ing wealth class was given
billions--


Can't "give" to someone that which is theirs in the first place,
****wit....


The only way to create wealth is to take something, apply labor to it,
and make it more valuable. That is the only way.


to create wealth means two things, you must have work and you must have
need.

Both mean you must have human life.....

Wealth is a human attribute. * Wealth is a unit of life that has been
stored, a unit of need and a unit of work combined into a unit of value
which we collect as wealth.

Wealth is the same as ones and zeros in a computer, they don't exist yet
we give them values. *Some ones and zeros are worth more to us than
others and all are simply work that has been stored. *Their worth is
only measured by our need of them. * The wealth in ones and zeros is as
subjective as the wealth in a dollar.


? Creating Wealth -or- Redistributing The Wealth !

The old saying goes: One Man's Junk {Worthless}
is another Man's Treasure {Profit} ;-)

Something To Think About - From the Bonanza TV Series:

-story-dialog-goes- Why HOSS,

Business is "Where" the Man with the Money
'meets' the Man with the Experience.

The Man with the Experience 'gets' the Money . . .

and the Man with the Money 'gets' the Experience ! ! !

[ That's Wealth Redistribution 101 ]

and that is... something to think about . . . ~ RHF

dave March 24th 11 03:35 PM

we already imagine you speak with a drawl
 
On 03/24/2011 09:05 AM, wrote:
I wood boughts ah Ginyoowine Diamond studded dog collar furr me leetle
couch buddy doggy, wit sum O' dats darr Wealth.Mannnnn,,,,, them thar
Diamonds wood bee ahshinin laks crazy! outch thar enema that thar Missy
Sippy Sun Light! Yesuhhhhhh,,,,,,,
Jack of Diamonds,,, Jack of Diamonds,,,,,, I know you of olddd,,,,,,,,
you have robbed my poor pockets of Silver and Golddddd,,,,,,,

More Traces of Radiation Found in U.S.States
http://www.rense.com
River Red and Ohwegone, y'all hassa dun jined the Atomic Radiation list,
Yapanee Nuke stuff.
cuhulin



Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] March 24th 11 03:39 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On 3/24/2011 6:50 AM, RHF wrote:
On Mar 20, 10:49 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/20/2011 9:46 AM, dave wrote:



On 03/19/2011 05:18 PM, pyjamarama wrote:
On Mar 19, 8:14 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:49:26 -0700 (PDT), ?baMa? Tse Dung


wrote:
Let us pledge to each other, with this Great Lady looking on, that we
can, and so help us God, we will make America great again.


Then within a few years---the ****ing wealth class was given
billions--


Can't "give" to someone that which is theirs in the first place,
****wit....


The only way to create wealth is to take something, apply labor to it,
and make it more valuable. That is the only way.


to create wealth means two things, you must have work and you must have
need.

Both mean you must have human life.....

Wealth is a human attribute. Wealth is a unit of life that has been
stored, a unit of need and a unit of work combined into a unit of value
which we collect as wealth.

Wealth is the same as ones and zeros in a computer, they don't exist yet
we give them values. Some ones and zeros are worth more to us than
others and all are simply work that has been stored. Their worth is
only measured by our need of them. The wealth in ones and zeros is as
subjective as the wealth in a dollar.


? Creating Wealth -or- Redistributing The Wealth !

The old saying goes: One Man's Junk {Worthless}
is another Man's Treasure {Profit} ;-)



Which is why some people create no wealth..... they do work that
creates every man's Junk.

[email protected] March 24th 11 04:05 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
I wood boughts ah Ginyoowine Diamond studded dog collar furr me leetle
couch buddy doggy, wit sum O' dats darr Wealth.Mannnnn,,,,, them thar
Diamonds wood bee ahshinin laks crazy! outch thar enema that thar Missy
Sippy Sun Light! Yesuhhhhhh,,,,,,,
Jack of Diamonds,,, Jack of Diamonds,,,,,, I know you of olddd,,,,,,,,
you have robbed my poor pockets of Silver and Golddddd,,,,,,,

More Traces of Radiation Found in U.S.States
http://www.rense.com
River Red and Ohwegone, y'all hassa dun jined the Atomic Radiation list,
Yapanee Nuke stuff.
cuhulin


[email protected] March 24th 11 04:44 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
A few mintes ago, somebody at MDOT (Missy Sippy Department Of
Transportation) told JT (Super Talk Missy Sippy Radio talk show) the
Missy Sippy River Bridge between Vicksburg and Louisiana will be closed
(there are two Bridges there, one of them is the old original Bridge,
used only for Railroad traffic nowadays) from Noon untill 2:00 PM today.

Yeah, I know, it's backwater hick Missy Sippy, so who cares? I Care!
Close a big ass Bridge anywhere else in America and it's Instant World
Wide Breaking News!
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...te+Vicksbu rg
cuhulin, Bridges R US


Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] March 24th 11 06:44 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society



Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.

Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


bpnjensen March 24th 11 06:48 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 24, 11:44*am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.

Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.

Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] March 24th 11 07:03 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.

Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.

Who created the Microsoft Wealth? Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.



What does your Operating system say?


That's who created it.



Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.

bpnjensen March 24th 11 07:48 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 24, 12:03*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:





On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. *Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


What does your Operating system say?

That's who created it.

Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Again, concentrating wealth. It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. You cannot get something from nothing.

bpnjensen March 24th 11 07:50 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 24, 12:24*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:48:38 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen

wrote:
Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. *Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


That's true

His web of business is a job producer---but as you say concentrates
wealth into his hands

Gates is unique

The top 400 WEalthiest familes in america own/control about 95% of all
the wealth. *Since the late 90's (under GOP congresses) they have
amassed hundreds of billions of dollars---yet "created" few businesses
that create jobs.

They were allowed to make billion by "keeping their money" (literally
tax free) and using it to create more wealth on Wall street. *It's the
Ideal "dick armey" goal. *


Yes. Demonstrably true in every regard. Not the whole story, but a
big part of it.

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] March 24th 11 08:09 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On 3/24/2011 3:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:03 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:





On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


What does your Operating system say?

That's who created it.

Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Again, concentrating wealth. It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. You cannot get something from nothing.


NOT true at all....

wealth is a measure of both "need and work" wealth is stored work that
has value. If the stored work becomes useless to anyone then it has
zero value and is no longer wealth.


Wealth can be gold or it can be a painting or it can be the copywrite
ownership of Windows-7.


The day Windows-8 is released, then Windows-7 will NOT represent as much
wealth.


Soon the U.S. dollar will NO longer be a symbol of wealth, they will
have diminishing value to each of us and will not retain wealth because
they are not of value to people.... while a can of soup may be of more
value than all the dollars you can carry. Owning cans of soup may be
real wealth while owning cash is like having a pet rock.







Gary Forbis March 24th 11 08:14 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 24, 12:48*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
Again, concentrating wealth. *It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. *The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. *The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. *You cannot get something from nothing.


In many cases the value is in the structure of the resource rather
than the resource itself. We wouldn't not think to eat again today
the resources we so gladly ate yesterday.

If it were not for our economic structure I would say who did what
was a waste of time and emotional effort. I feel we are indeed played
as pawns by people who create misery for their own happiness. It
is a pithetic life for which we all pay. The seven deadly sins are
wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony. At times I get
quite peeved by those who promote a path towards these sins.

By moving towards technologies that utilize renewable resources
(it's the structure that matters) we make our lives easier. This
morning a woman said with pride how plentify hispanics have
become in the US. I care not about the racial mix but the growth
in our population to achieve it. People who buy into the notion of
strife for a better life create that strife. The more of us there are
the greater the need for usable resources. A move towards
renewable resources doesn't make our life easier if it is offset
by increased population. People have to envision the world they
would like to see real before it can be achieved. If that means
a world of winners and losers then that's the world we will have.

RHF March 24th 11 08:20 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 24, 11:44*am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.

Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


- Who created the Microsoft Wealth?
-*Without Bill Gates, who would have
- created personal computing that would
- become a world wide success.

D'Oh ! Those Two Guy from Apple : Sure did
very well without BG@MS - imho ~ RHF

Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] March 24th 11 08:35 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On 3/24/2011 4:20 PM, RHF wrote:
On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.

Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


- Who created the Microsoft Wealth?
- Without Bill Gates, who would have
- created personal computing that would
- become a world wide success.

D'Oh ! Those Two Guy from Apple : Sure did
very well without BG@MS - imho ~ RHF


yet 8 of 10 use Windows.....



Had you cornered the market and bought all the "buggy whips" 130 years
ago(billions of dollars invested) and you now try to realize your
fortune and cash in your wealth by selling your buggy whips..... you may
find that they're no longer of any real value and you now have no
wealth. In fact, depending on the chemicals used to make them, they may
now be a liability rather than an asset. It may cost you to get rid of
the buggy whips in an environmentally safe way.


Wealth is a measure of need or value as well as a measure of stored work.






Beam Me Up Scotty[_3_] March 24th 11 08:44 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On 3/24/2011 4:20 PM, RHF wrote:
On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.

Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


- Who created the Microsoft Wealth?
- Without Bill Gates, who would have
- created personal computing that would
- become a world wide success.

D'Oh ! Those Two Guy from Apple : Sure did
very well without BG@MS - imho ~ RHF


yet 8 of 10 use Windows.....



Had you cornered the market and bought all the "buggy whips" 130 years
ago(billions of dollars invested) and you now try to realize your
fortune and cash in your wealth by selling your buggy whips..... you may
find that they're no longer of any real value and you now have no
wealth. In fact, depending on the chemicals used to make them, they may
now be a liability rather than an asset. It may cost you to get rid of
the buggy whips in an environmentally safe way.


Wealth is a measure of need or value as well as a measure of stored work.


Salt has been worth more than gold at times.....



RHF March 24th 11 08:51 PM

The Myth That BG@MS and MS Corp. Created Wealth
 
On Mar 24, 12:03*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:



On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


- - He did not create it so much as concentrate it.
- - Now, he's beginning to spread it around again...
- - but still, not creating it.

- What does your Operating system say?
-
- That's who created it.
-
- Others were created but they are not creating
- as much wealth.

BG@MS Did NOT 'Create' The Wealth :

The Wealth Existed and was Distributed more Evenly
and Equability across the Customer Population
{Wealth Base}

BG@MS Did Promoted, Refined and Monopolized
a Set of Products and Services to that Customer
Population {Wealth Base} -and- Those Customers
Freely Redistributed Their Wealth {by Buy/Buyers/
Buying} from&to BG@MS and MS Corp.

BG@MS and MS Corp Simply Aggregated {Collected
and Concentrate} the Wealth of Others {The Customer
Wealth Base} to Himself and MS Corp.

It Is Time For BG@MS To Give Back {Pay-Back} This
Redistributed Wealth To That Very Same Customer
Population {Wealth Base}
* BG@MS Can Keep a Billion Dollars for Himself;
Plus a Billion Dollars for Misses BG; and a Billion
Dollars for each of the BG Children (3) :
That's 5 Billion Dollars :
But the Rest of the Billions Should Be Redistributed
{Paid-Back} To The Customer Population {Wealth Base}
In The Name of Economic Social Justice For All.

Power {Wealth} To The Customers/Consumers !
{ From Whom All Redistributed Wealth Flows }

and that's the way 'i' see it ~ RHF

RHF March 24th 11 08:53 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 24, 12:48*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:03*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-



wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:


On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. *Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


What does your Operating system say?


That's who created it.


Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


- Again, concentrating wealth. *It has nothing to do with who made the
- operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
- the expense of anyone else. *The only way the human race gains
wealth
- is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the
earth
- loses something. *The resource is finite, and only its
redistribution
- decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
- yourself otherwise. *You cannot get something from nothing.

BpnJ - In General We Agree :o) ~ RHF

The Myth That BG@MS and MS Corp. Created Wealth
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...598c99e6d4de8c

[email protected] March 24th 11 09:01 PM

The Myth That BG@MS and MS Corp. Created Wealth
 
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...erating+System

///Mope, are you kidding?///
No Sang, I am not kidding at all!
///Whatever you say, Mope///
cuhulin


RHF March 24th 11 09:06 PM

One New and Improved Barack Obama Dollar [$1BOD] & The-Mark-of-the-ObamaŠ = $6.66 Gasoline {This Economy Sticks !}
 
On Mar 24, 1:09*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 3:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:



On Mar 24, 12:03 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:


On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. *Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


What does your Operating system say?


That's who created it.


Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Again, concentrating wealth. *It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. *The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. *The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. *You cannot get something from nothing.


NOT true at all....

wealth is a measure of both "need and work" *wealth is stored work that
has value. *If the stored work becomes useless to anyone then it has
zero value and is no longer wealth.

Wealth can be gold or it can be a painting or it can be the copywrite
ownership of Windows-7.

The day Windows-8 is released, then Windows-7 will NOT represent as much
wealth.

Soon the U.S. dollar will NO longer be a symbol of wealth, they will
have diminishing value to each of us and will not retain wealth because
they are not of value to people.... *while a can of soup may be of more
value than all the dollars you can carry. *Owning cans of soup may be
real wealth while owning cash is like having a pet rock.


Yeah Soon with One Can of Old Campbell's Soup : You
Will Be Able To Buy $20 Old {Devalued} US Dollars
-or- One New and Improved Barack Obama Dollar [$1BOD]
-aka- One "BO" Buck -wrt- This Economy Sticks !

now is that true... 'no' ...but soon it may be ~ RHF

bpnjensen March 24th 11 09:12 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 24, 1:09*pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 3:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:





On Mar 24, 12:03 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:48 PM, bpnjensen wrote:


On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. *Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


What does your Operating system say?


That's who created it.


Others were created but they are not creating as much wealth.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Again, concentrating wealth. *It has nothing to do with who made the
operating system, but whether or not the wealth he gained was NOT at
the expense of anyone else. *The only way the human race gains wealth
is to mine it or harvest it from the earth - and even then, the earth
loses something. *The resource is finite, and only its redistribution
decides who gets rich and who stays poor. You're just kididing
yourself otherwise. *You cannot get something from nothing.


NOT true at all....

wealth is a measure of both "need and work" *wealth is stored work that
has value. *If the stored work becomes useless to anyone then it has
zero value and is no longer wealth.

Wealth can be gold or it can be a painting or it can be the copywrite
ownership of Windows-7.

The day Windows-8 is released, then Windows-7 will NOT represent as much
wealth.

Soon the U.S. dollar will NO longer be a symbol of wealth, they will
have diminishing value to each of us and will not retain wealth because
they are not of value to people.... *while a can of soup may be of more
value than all the dollars you can carry. *Owning cans of soup may be
real wealth while owning cash is like having a pet rock.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Right - Windows 8 will grab that wealth from Windows 7, and MS will
divert yet more wealth from people who might otherwise be satisfied
with what they have. MS gets richer, the rest of us get poorer.
Redistribution and reconcentration. It ain't new, it's just
repackaged.

Cans of soup are produced by the earth with human energy added (which
also came from the earth). If it represents wealth, it's the wealth
of the entire Earth, which then only makes up its loss when humans die
and go back to it.

[email protected] March 24th 11 09:19 PM

The Myth That BG@MS and MS Corp. Created Wealth
 
Old country from Edwards,Missy Sippy! was mowing his yard a little while
ago with his pawn shop Smoking lawn mower.(smokers!!!) I mowed my front
yard last Sunday.So, about an hour ago I cranked up one of my lawn
mowers and I mowed my back yard.My lawn mowers do not smoke.
He BROKE my chainsaw.He pushed his pawn shop over here, he said,,, Show
me where that lawn mower oil drain plug is!
Maybe tomorrow, I will push my lawn mower around to my front yard and
clean it up and polish it.Make it Shine just like brand spankin NEW!
cuhulin, my lawn mowers and my other vehicles do not smoke


m II March 24th 11 09:20 PM

we already imagine you speak with a drawl
 
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I wood boughts ah Ginyoowine Diamond studded dog collar furr me leetle
couch buddy doggy, wit sum O' dats darr Wealth.Mannnnn,,,,, them thar
Diamonds wood bee ahshinin laks crazy! outch thar enema that thar Missy
Sippy Sun Light! Yesuhhhhhh,,,,,,,
Jack of Diamonds,,, Jack of Diamonds,,,,,, I know you of olddd,,,,,,,,
you have robbed my poor pockets of Silver and Golddddd,,,,,,,

More Traces of Radiation Found in U.S.States
http://www.rense.com
River Red and Ohwegone, y'all hassa dun jined the Atomic Radiation list,
Yapanee Nuke stuff.
cuhulin



I bet he walks with a lisp also.


mike

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RHF March 24th 11 09:30 PM

Absurd Political Bias/Bigotry = Liberal-Lies and Democrat-Distortions
 
On Mar 24, 12:24*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:48:38 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen

wrote:
Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. *Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


That's true

His web of business is a job producer---but as you say concentrates
wealth into his hands

Gates is unique

- The top 400 WEalthiest familes in america own/control about 95% of
all
- the wealth. *Since the late 90's (under GOP congresses) they have
- amassed hundreds of billions of dollars---yet "created" few
businesses
- that create jobs.
-
- They were allowed to make billion by "keeping their
money" (literally
- tax free) and using it to create more wealth on Wall street. *It's
the
- Ideal "dick armey" goal. *

,

? So there were NO Democrats in the US Congress
During All Those Evil Wealth Accumulation Years !

? And the Democrats Did Not Control Either House of
the US Congress Over All Those Years of Excessive
Wealth Concentration !

? Plus there were NO Democrat US Presidents To VETO
All This Evil Wealth Accumulation During All Those Years !

Truth Be Told : "On-Average" It Is The Democrat$
Who Are The Wealthie$t and Riche$t Member$ of
the US Congre$$ -poor-little-republi˘ans-

-r-o-t-f-l- at your absurd political bias/bigotry :
liberal-lies and democrat-distortions ~ RHF

[email protected] March 25th 11 05:17 AM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 24, 4:20*pm, RHF wrote:
On Mar 24, 11:44*am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-





wrote:
On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


- Who created the Microsoft Wealth?
-*Without Bill Gates, who would have
- created personal computing that would
- become a world wide success.

D'Oh ! Those Two Guy from Apple : Sure did
very well without BG@MS - imho ~ RHF
*.
-a-minor-historical-point-
It was the IBM PC and IBM Corp that was the
the 'creative force' that caused BG@MS and
MS Corp to become what it was in the 1990s.
*.
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


IBM was the main driving force of 'mini-computers' in the early 80's .
HRM BG is one lucky SOB. And the rest is history . . .

[email protected][_2_] March 25th 11 03:33 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 24, 10:17*pm, wrote:
IBM was the main driving force of 'mini-computers' in the early 80's .

How quickly we forget companies like Digital Equipment Corp and Data
General....

HRM BG is one lucky SOB. And the rest is history *. . .

The story of how Gary Kildall and CP/M lost the IBM PC business has
been told many times....

dave March 25th 11 04:03 PM

IBM invented the PC (and Bill Gates)
 
On 03/24/2011 07:53 PM, RHF wrote:
On Mar 24, 6:36 pm, Beam Me Up ScottyThen-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/24/2011 6:29 PM, dave wrote:

On 3/24/2011 11:48 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 24, 11:44 am, Beam Me Up ScottyThen-Destroy-


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


He did not create it so much as concentrate it. Now, he's beginning
to spread it around again...but still, not creating it.


- Gates created a successful version.

nah,,, Nah... NAH ! ! !

Not even that : IBM created to broad a ranging PC
Specification for their IBM PC Hardware that enabled
'others' to "Clone" {Re-Engineer} their IBM PC Designs;
at the Assembly Component Level {Kit PCs} and
enter the PC Market Place.

? Remember the first few Years of the PC 'Clones' !

This caused a Separate need for a Parallel {Clone}
Opperating System to Run on the PC Clones.

! Hence IBM-DOS -morphed-into- MS-DOS !

There Was a Moment-In-Time -when- All Roads
Lead To BG@MS and MS Corp; and BG@MS
Capitalized On That Historical Dynamic Market
Point [.] -and-the-rest-is-history-

-where-as-
Apples History is One of Strict Hardware and Software
Control Plus Licensing of it all; and a relatively 'limited'
Market Share as a result.
-better-ain't-good-if-it-is-not-readily-available-to-all-

and that is the way 'i' see/remember it ~ RHF


Look up Xerox Palo Alto Research Center

dave March 25th 11 04:10 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On 03/25/2011 08:33 AM, wrote:
On Mar 24, 10:17 pm, wrote:
IBM was the main driving force of 'mini-computers' in the early 80's .

How quickly we forget companies like Digital Equipment Corp and Data
General....

HRM BG is one lucky SOB. And the rest is history . . .

The story of how Gary Kildall and CP/M lost the IBM PC business has
been told many times....


IBM made the first "Desktop" computer in pretty much the same form
factor we use today, and with the same basic components. They did the
world a huge favor by not fighting 3rd party hardware and software.

[email protected][_2_] March 25th 11 05:18 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On Mar 25, 9:10*am, dave wrote:
IBM made the first "Desktop" computer in pretty much the same form
factor we use today, and with the same basic components.

You are entitled to your opinion. I would have voted for any of a
number of earlier personal computers from other companies.

They did the
world a huge favor by not fighting 3rd party hardware and software.

IBM did fight and win battles against some of the early clones (but
ultimately lost the clone wars). Also, remember the PS/2 and OS/2?
Even subsequent ISA PCs had propiertary features that contributed to
their doom (as IBM tried to regain "control" of the PC market).

[email protected] March 25th 11 05:29 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
5 enema 1 hook em up gadget furr yoar iPad erra iPad Tu. Costy $45
smackers.
http://www.techchee.com

You bitter hurry uppa anna gitcha wun befoe dey sail outch
cuhulin


[email protected] March 25th 11 05:35 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
The way Commie fed govt SUCKS UP! to Islam Is A Cult Of Death! and
Shariah law and Israel Hell and the New World Order and the
WETBACKS!,,,,,, what chance do you think Haley Barbour has being the
next President of the United States of America? America does NOT! have a
President, might NOT! Ever have a President, Ever Again.I reckon I will
wait and See.
cuhulin


[email protected] March 25th 11 05:46 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
I have some old, old, old computers.How about an old, old, old Tandy
computer? I do Believe at least two or three of my old, old, old
computerys could find a place enema ah Computer Museum sumwhars.They
aints ahgoin tu enema moosims, notta assa longa assa Ahh hassa enema
thangy tu duz wits itta.They issa ahgoin uppa enema mah attic.
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Computer+Museums
cuhulin, old, old, old computerys R ME


dave March 25th 11 06:01 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On 03/25/2011 10:18 AM, wrote:
On Mar 25, 9:10 am, wrote:
IBM made the first "Desktop" computer in pretty much the same form
factor we use today, and with the same basic components.

You are entitled to your opinion. I would have voted for any of a
number of earlier personal computers from other companies.

They did the
world a huge favor by not fighting 3rd party hardware and software.

IBM did fight and win battles against some of the early clones (but
ultimately lost the clone wars). Also, remember the PS/2 and OS/2?
Even subsequent ISA PCs had propiertary features that contributed to
their doom (as IBM tried to regain "control" of the PC market).


Sure. I remember all that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_form_factor


dave March 25th 11 06:02 PM

Creating Wealth ? -or- Redistributing The Wealth !
 
On 03/25/2011 10:46 AM, wrote:
I have some old, old, old computers.How about an old, old, old Tandy
computer? I do Believe at least two or three of my old, old, old
computerys could find a place enema ah Computer Museum sumwhars.They
aints ahgoin tu enema moosims, notta assa longa assa Ahh hassa enema
thangy tu duz wits itta.They issa ahgoin uppa enema mah attic.
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Computer+Museums
cuhulin, old, old, old computerys R ME


I have a C64 and a tape drive somewhere.

RHF March 26th 11 06:22 PM

They are leeches
 
On Mar 24, 3:28*pm, dave wrote:
On 3/24/2011 11:44 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:



On 3/24/2011 2:24 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:39:10 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
*wrote:


Which is why some people create no wealth.....


Which is why, when the wealth class creates nothing but money from
money---they contribute nothing to society


Creating Corporations that allow useless people to produce things that
are considered wealth, is creating wealth. *The person organizing the
production from nothing shares in the creation of that wealth. *Without
them creating and organizing a place for the otherwise unproductive
people to create wealth, no wealth would be created.


Where as the people on their own could NOT have produced anything of
wealth due to a lack of ability.


Who created the Microsoft Wealth? *Without Bill Gates, who would have
created personal computing that would become a world wide success.


- Why should investors receive dividends forever?
- Why not allow them a certain return,
- then cash them in after a few years. .

So 'Special-Dave' using your NIF!* "Financial Logic" :
* Nothing Is Forever !

You 'Buy' a House with a 30-Year Mortgage; and at
the End of the 30-Years You Move-Out -because-
You No Longer Own It

+ You Did Get To Live In The House For 30-Years
{Free Housing}

+ You Did Get Your Mortgage Interest Deduction
For 30-Years {Dividends}

such a deal ~ RHF

[email protected] March 26th 11 06:46 PM

They are leeches
 
Whether You Rent, or whether you buy, you pay for the home you occupy.

Commie fed govt doesn't 'see' it that way though.Commie fed govt figures
Americans really do not own anything.Not even the shirts on their backs.

You think I am joking about that?
cuhulin


RHF March 26th 11 07:03 PM

(OT) : Ensuring 'The Rich' Have True Tax Equality -by-a- Flat TaxPLUS National Tax System
 
On Mar 26, 6:10*am, dave wrote:
On 03/26/2011 05:13 AM, RHF wrote:

There should be US Tax Benefits for Investment in
the USA and American Job Creation/Maintenance
-american-corporations-have-a-duty-to-invest-in-america-


* Build a New US Factory and Create Jobs
-american-corporations-have-a-duty-to-invest-in-america-


Put huge import duties on bull**** only rich people need.


Better Yet 'Special-Dave' Require All Rich People to
Registrar as 'Rich People' {Evil Anti-Economic-Equality
Social Elements}

Rich People Must Be Track for All Financial Transactions.
Each and Every Time that they Buy Something : Tax It
an Extra 10%, 20% or 30% At The Point-of-Sale
{Pay As You Go Taxation}

Tax The Rich Into Poverty : Then We Will All Be Poor
Together ...and... Only The Government Will Be Rich
With All of Our Taxes !


nah,,, Nah... NAH ! ! ! : The Better Idea Is . . .

RHF March 26th 11 11:13 PM

(OT) : Ensuring 'Low-Income Working Taxpayers Pay Nothing and Get
 
On Mar 26, 12:40*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:03:19 -0700 (PDT), RHF

wrote:
Tax The Rich Into Poverty :


- How about we only tax the wealth class at a
- percentage commeasurate with what a lower
- 1/3rd wage earner must pay compared to his
- earnings?
-
- Hmmm?

HUMmmm There Yourself !

Actually the so-called Lower 1/3rd Wage Earners
often Get Back More Than They Pay {Yes the USA
has a Negative Income}

=HINT= Earned Income Tax Credit is a Negative Income
Tax For Many {Not All} Working Families With Children
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earned_Income_Tax_Credit

More Accurate the Bottom 20% do not even File IRS Tax
Forms and with their Deductions : Pay NO Withholding
Taxes -but- If they did File most would get a few More
Dollars Back -that's-a- Negative Income Tax !

=HINT= Negative Income Tax = Earned Income Tax Credit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_income_tax

Then the Next to the Bottom 20% Do File IRS Tax Forms
-because- They Do Pay Some Payroll Withholding Taxes
and Want Their Money Back : This 2nd 20% Promptly
Fill Their Taxes and usually Receive More Money Back
Then They Paid in Income Tax Withholdings.
-that's-a- Negative Income Tax !

The U.S. Earned Income Tax Credit and Its Social Effects
http://harrisschool.uchicago.edu/abo...f/wp_07_20.pdf

[email protected] March 26th 11 11:56 PM

(OT) : Ensuring 'Low-Income Working Taxpayers Pay Nothing and...
 
Dublin is about 3,000 sumpin miles North East of doggy's couch.Dublin is
about 2,000 sumpin miles West of doggy's couch.Dublin is right here in
Missy Sippy.
cuhulin


[email protected] March 27th 11 12:37 AM

(OT) : Ensuring 'Low-Income Working Taxpayers Pay Nothing and...
 
You going to light some Candles for that Stupid Earth Hour? If anything,
I will Turn ALL of my Lights ON.
http://www.libertypost.org

Http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...Military+Jeeps
Turn ON the Lights and Power
cuhulin



dave March 27th 11 01:09 PM

(OT) : The Koch Brothers Inherited Their Dad's Businesses
 
On 03/26/2011 04:13 PM, RHF wrote:
On Mar 26, 12:40 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:03:19 -0700 (PDT), RHF


The EIC encourages stability among the hardest working people in America
by rewarding them for having a job and a household. Would you prefer
more beggars? Perhaps dormitories where minimum wage workers can live
while working at WalMart?


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