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On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote:

Whether you like Prez "BO" {Obama} or not : BHO is the
Elected US Prez-A-Duntz

[...]


Actually, there hasn't been a legally elected "US President" for
over a century.

When the government brazenly violates its own structural rules, as
has every "administration" since that of Abraham Lincoln, it cannot
be regarded as legal or constitutional.

When the legislature of Maryland was arrested and imprisoned because
they were about to "vote wrongly" -- when supposed "constitutional
amendments" were enacted under force of military occupation and
dictatorship, and near-total disenfranchisement, how can the
resulting government be regarded as a continuation of the original?
It simply can't.

The best and most honorable policy is to never refer to the current
ruling structure as "the US government" or even "the federal
government." Call it what it is: the illegal regime in Washington.


With all good wishes,


Kevin Alfred Strom.
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On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:



I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt

Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


I needed one. They rubbed it.
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On Apr 4, 11:14*am, dave wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:





On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.


Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -

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In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and
deeds registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth
Digges, smeared the impression with black ink so that it would show
up when photocopied for recording in the books held in the locked
vaults at the courthouse, and on microfiche. Now these official
documents are all digitized to save cramped courthouses a little
space, but paper documents are still indispensable. After time-
stamping and recording the original instrument, complete with the
smears, is then returned to the homeowner, lienholder, testator,
trustor, or . . .

So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. Neanderthal DNA
yet lives! You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. It's dumb as
an ox.
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On 4/4/2011 9:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:

he [Obama] appears to be on vacation all the time


Yeah, it's not like W. Bush doesn't hold the modern ALL TIME RECORD for
being away from the White House.

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On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:56:22 -0700, dave wrote:

On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt


It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on vacation.
He is way too dorky to be anything else.


Thanks for your Urkel wisdom, now **** off.


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On 04/04/2011 09:20 AM, Jarbidge wrote:
Congressional Government Accounting Office


(You do realize this happened during the GWB admin...)

Summary

A U.S. passport is one of the most sought after travel documents in the
world, allowing its holder entrance into the United States and many
other countries. People attempting to obtain a U.S. passport illegally
often seek to use the guise of a U.S. citizen to conceal their
involvement with more serious crimes, such as terrorism, drug
trafficking, money laundering, or murder. In March 2009, GAO reported on
weaknesses in State's passport issuance process that could allow a
terrorist or criminal to fraudulently acquire a genuine U.S. passport.
Specifically, GAO easily obtained four genuine passports from State
using counterfeit documents. In April 2009, GAO suggested that State
take 5 corrective actions based on these undercover tests and State
acknowledged those corrective actions. GAO was asked to perform
additional proactive testing of State's passport issuance process to
determine if it continues to be vulnerable to fraud. To do this work,
GAO applied for seven U.S. passports using counterfeit or fraudulently
obtained documents, such as driver's licenses and birth certificates, to
simulate scenarios based on identity theft. GAO created documents for
seven fictitious or deceased individuals using off-the-shelf,
commercially available hardware, software, and materials. Undercover
investigators applied for passports at six U.S. Postal Service locations
and one State-run passport office.

State's passport issuance process continues to be vulnerable to fraud,
as the agency issued five of the seven passports GAO attempted to
fraudulently obtain. While there were multiple indicators of fraud and
identity theft in each application, State identified only two as
fraudulent during its adjudication process and mailed five genuine U.S.
passports to undercover GAO mailboxes. GAO successfully obtained three
of these passports, but State had the remaining two recovered from the
mail before they were delivered. According to State officials, the
agency discovered--after its adjudication process--that the two
passports were part of GAO testing when they were linked to one of the
passport applications it initially denied. State officials told GAO that
they used facial recognition technology--which they could have also used
during the adjudication process--to identify the two remaining
applications. GAO's tests show that State does not consistently use data
verification and counterfeit detection techniques in its passport
issuance process. Of the five passports it issued, State did not
recognize discrepancies and suspicious indicators within each
application. Some examples include: passport photos of the same
investigator on multiple applications; a 62 year-old applicant using a
Social Security number issued in 2009; passport and driver's license
photos showing about a 10 year age difference; and the use of a
California mailing address, a West Virginia permanent address and
driver's license address, and a Washington, D.C. phone number in the
same application. These were fraud indicators that should have been
identified and questioned by State. State also failed to crosscheck the
bogus citizenship and identity documents in the applications against the
same databases that it later used to detect GAO's other fraudulent
applications. State used facial recognition technology to identify the
photos of GAO undercover investigators and to stop the subsequent
delivery of two passports but not to detect fraud in the three
applications that GAO received, which all contained a passport photo of
the same investigator.
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On 04/04/2011 09:20 AM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:11:34 -0700, dave wrote:

On 04/04/2011 06:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's
a citz.

Curt

It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on
vacation. He is way too dorky to be anything else.

he appears to be on vacation all the time


Is that supposed to be "quick" and "witty"?


**** off.


....you're a true vulgarian, aren't you?
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:57:17 -0700, dave wrote:

On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:



I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


Never seen a bad-papered one, fool?

http://rt.com/usa/news/fake-papers-c...passport-even-
after-9-11/


A report issued by the Congressional Government Accounting Office reveals
shocking details of how easily one can get a genuine American passport by
applying using falsified documents at a passport office.

A draft of this report was obtained by The Associated Press.

A government investigator, in order to check the security in post-9/11
America, used documents, among others, from a child and a man who died
over 40 years ago to obtain a passport – and succeeded in all his
attempts.

After the 2001 terrorist attacks, security expenses in the US
skyrocketed. Passport security was among many that were a particular
focus since the suicide terrorists that attacked the WTC and Pentagon
used fraudulent driver’s licenses to board the planes.

Now it looks like, to put it mildly, the measures taken were insufficient
and over the past seven years U.S. officials have learned nothing about
passport security and fraudulent documents.

How he did it

The investigator made four attempts to get a passport using a combination
of fake documents and was granted a new passport in all four cases.

In one case, a combination of a Social Security number of a man who died
in 1965, together with both a fake New York birth certificate and a
Florida driver's license, made it possible to get an American passport in
just four days.

Investigators gave it another try by providing the personal information
of a 5-year-old boy to the passport application office, while pretending
to be a 53-year old. He got his new passport in seven days.

The third time he made a two-step operation. He started by obtaining a
genuine Washington D.C. identity card using fake documents – and he did
it. Then he used the card to be issued a new passport in one day.

The final time the investigator used a forged New York birth certificate
along with a fake West Virginia driver's license to complete an
application for a passport which took a little more than a week – just
eight days – for him to receive.

It is unnecessary to mention that fake passports from almost any country
have a great value to the parties involved, from criminals to terrorists.

The U.S. intelligence officials from Immigration and Customs Enforcement
state in the report that a badly forged American passport costs about
$300 on the black market while the value of a top-quality forgery could
be as high as $5000.
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:11:34 -0700, dave wrote:

On 04/04/2011 06:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's
a citz.

Curt

It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on
vacation. He is way too dorky to be anything else.


he appears to be on vacation all the time


Is that supposed to be "quick" and "witty"?


**** off.
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