RadioBanter

RadioBanter (https://www.radiobanter.com/)
-   Shortwave (https://www.radiobanter.com/shortwave/)
-   -   Why can't the ni**a help the brothers out in the Ivory Coast? (https://www.radiobanter.com/shortwave/162911-why-cant-ni%2A%2A-help-brothers-out-ivory-coast.html)

Gregg April 2nd 11 06:11 PM

Why can't the ni**a help the brothers out in the Ivory Coast?
 
I guess Obama can't spare any cruise missiles for his brothers in
Central Africa.


latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-ivory-coast-20110403,0,6411165.
story

800 people reportedly massacred in Ivory Coast

From the Associated Press

8:24 AM PDT, April 2, 2011

JOHANNESBURG

More than 800 civilians have been killed in a western Ivory Coast town
where hundreds of U.N. peacekeepers are based, the International
Federation of the Red Cross said Saturday, but the U.N. military
spokesman said he had no information about mass killings there.

The Roman Catholic charity Caritas put the toll at more than 1,000
dead, an estimate reached by its workers who visited the town of
Duekoue on Wednesday.

Spokesman Patrick Nicholson said the killings occurred over three days
in a neighborhood controlled by fighters loyal to internationally
recognized President Alassane Ouattara, though it was not clear who the
perpetrators were.

"The massacre took place in the 'Carrefour' quarter of town, controlled
by pro-Ouattara forces, during clashes on Sunday 27 March to Tuesday 29
March," Nicholson said. "Caritas does not know who was responsible for
the killing, but says a proper investigation must take place to
establish the truth."

He said Caritas workers found that neighborhood filled with bodies of
victims who died from gunshot wounds from small-arms fire or were
hacked to death with machetes. He said those killed were civilians that
included many refugees from fighting elsewhere in the country, where
rival forces were battling over a disputed November election.

Caritas' investigation would indicate that people were killed at close
quarters in a small neighborhood of a town of just 50,000 people as
pro-Ouattara fighters began a two-pronged attack that brought them
swiftly to Abidjan, the commercial capital and seat of power, within
days.

Ouattara's government meanwhile denied its forces were involved in any
atrocities including in western Ivory Coast, without referring to the
latest allegations. Efforts to reach Ouattara's spokesman Saturday were
unsuccessful. He did not respond to calls to his cell phone.

Previously, the United Nations put the death toll at 492 from four
months of fighting to install rival leaders following disputed November
elections.

Col. Chaib Rais, the U.N. military spokesman, told The Associated Press
that nearly 1,000 peacekeepers at Duekoue "are protecting the Catholic
Church with more than 10,000 (refugees) inside, and we have military
camps in the area."

But he said "I have no special report of (mass killings). There was
fighting two days before, on Sunday, and people were killed, but I
cannot confirm those numbers."

Rais said there was fighting in and around the town on Sunday and
Monday, between forces loyal to the rival leaders.

On Monday, fighters loyal to Ouattara said they took Duekoue. But
Nicholson said interviews with survivors indicated pro-Ouattara forces
had control of Carrefour neighborhood from Sunday.

ICRC spokeswoman Dorothea Krimitsas said "communal violence" erupted
there, apparently on Tuesday.

International and Ivorian Red Cross teams visited Duekoue Friday and
saw a "huge number of bodies," estimated at more than 800, she said.
The trips by Caritas and the ICRC were separate and independent of each
other.

"We think there is a risk that this kind of event can happen again and
hope that by calling today again for protection for the civilian
population, we hope that such events can be avoided in the future,"
Krimitsas told The Associated Press by phone from Geneva.

The area has been a hotbed for conflict between two tribes that support
rival leaders vying for power in Ivory Coast, the democratically
elected Ouattara and incumbent Laurent Gbagbo, who refuses to accept
his defeat at November elections which he had postponed for years.

The International Organization of Migration said Friday that tens of
thousands of refugees have overcrowded Duekoue and that others who had
fled the violence in Duekoue "are now stranded along the route, in fear
for their lives."

It said some of those slaughtered apparently were killed by
"mercenaries" from nearby Liberia. Liberian mercenaries have been
reported to be fighting for both Gbagbo and Ouattara.

The Roman Catholic bishop for the area, the Right Rev. Gaspard Beby
Gneba of Man, said he was called by a priest from Guiglo, a town near
Duekoue that also is sheltering refugees. He said the priest told him
refugees were dying and that they were burying two people on Saturday.

Gneba said tensions in the area are a mixture of political, ethnic and
land rivalry, aggravated by the influx of tens of thousands of new
Ivorian refugees and long-established refugees from neighboring
Liberia. In January, an unknown number of people were killed in
violence in which some homes were torched and others looted, he said.

Gneba said more than 30,000 refugees had flooded the town of about
50,000 since January. Many are being sheltered at the Salesian priests'
Mission of St. Theresa of the Baby Jesus.

"There's a traumatic humanitarian situation there," Gneba said. "They
need everything: food, medicine, water, sanitation. People have lost
everything, houses, clothes, they do not even have a mat to sleep on."

Rais, the U.N. colonel, said there are nearly 400 peacekeepers based at
Guiglo who were doing what they could to help with water and food.

Ouattara's government, in a general statement Friday responding to
allegations of abuses by Amnesty International, blamed any killings on
Gbagbo forces acting as they retreated.

Ouattara had long tried to distance himself from the northern-based
fighters taking up his cause who fought in a brief civil war almost a
decade ago that left the country split in two. Those fighters were
accused of many atrocities at the time.

But Ouattara's repeated calls for an international military
intervention to force out Gbagbo and end the violence have gone
unheeded. This week he appeared to change tack as the fighters began a
swift advance on Abidjan, calling the rebels the "Republican Forces."

"The government firmly rejects these accusations and denies all
implication of the Republican Forces of Ivory Coast in any possible
violations," a government statement said Friday.

Human Rights Watch issued a statement Saturday saying it had documented
abuses, with the vast majority perpetrated by forces loyal to Gbagbo
against real or perceived Ouattara supporters, as well as against West
African immigrants and Muslims.

"The documented abuses include targeted killings, enforced
disappearances, politically motivated rapes, and unlawful use of lethal
force against unarmed demonstrators," the statement said. "These
abuses, committed over a four-month period by security forces under the
control of Gbagbo and militias loyal to him, may rise to the level of
crimes against humanity."

It was not immediately possible to reach Gbagbo or his ministers.

But the New York-based organization said atrocities committed by
pro-Ouattara forces also could amount to war crimes and crimes against
humanity, including three detainees burned alive and four whose throats
were slit, all in Abidjan.

"Human Rights Watch has also received credible reports of abuses
committed when Ouattara's forces took control of several towns in
western (Ivory Coast)," it said.

In one village near Abidjan, the statement said, at least nine
civilians were killed "in an apparent case of collective punishment
against alleged civilian supporters of Gbagbo."

It added, "The killing of civilians by pro-Ouattara forces, at times
with apparent ethnic or political motivation, also risks becoming a
crime against humanity should it become widespread or systematic."

--

dave April 2nd 11 07:23 PM

Why can't the ni**a help the brothers out in the Ivory Coast?
 
On 04/02/2011 10:11 AM, Gregg wrote:
I guess Obama can't spare any cruise missiles for his brothers in
Central Africa.



It added, "The killing of civilians by pro-Ouattara forces, at times
with apparent ethnic or political motivation, also risks becoming a
crime against humanity should it become widespread or systematic."

--


We only need one fresh war to distract us; any ******** will do. They're
all interchangeable.

Alfred stomacker April 2nd 11 08:10 PM

Why can't the ni**a help the brothers out in the Ivory Coast?
 
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:23:26 -0700, dave wrote:

On 04/02/2011 10:11 AM, Gregg wrote:
I guess Obama can't spare any cruise missiles for his brothers in
Central Africa.



It added, "The killing of civilians by pro-Ouattara forces, at times
with apparent ethnic or political motivation, also risks becoming a
crime against humanity should it become widespread or systematic."

--


We only need one fresh war to distract us; any ******** will do. They're
all interchangeable.

I am waiting for the spin . How will Obama blame this on Bush or
republicans or tea party .

[email protected] April 4th 11 04:52 AM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Apr 3, 6:35*pm, AzzMazta wrote:
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote:

Whether you like Prez "BO" {Obama} or not : BHO is the
Elected US Prez-A-Duntz and is NOT a "The-N-Word"


Obama is an "N-word" - Nimrod, that is. Also, Nonmoral. Non-patriotic.
Non-Judeo-Christian. Not-American-born. And let's not forget,
Not-electable-in-2012!!

--

Henry Pizzinger Institution
for the Mentally 31337
AzzMazta, Chairman & CEOwww.xcopfly.com


I think I heard in the news BHO just filed some papers for the 2012
elections !

Curt[_2_] April 4th 11 06:02 AM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Apr 3, 7:52*pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 6:35*pm, AzzMazta wrote:

On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote:


Whether you like Prez "BO" {Obama} or not : BHO is the
Elected US Prez-A-Duntz and is NOT a "The-N-Word"


Obama is an "N-word" - Nimrod, that is. Also, Nonmoral. Non-patriotic.
Non-Judeo-Christian. Not-American-born. And let's not forget,
Not-electable-in-2012!!


--


Henry Pizzinger Institution
for the Mentally 31337
AzzMazta, Chairman & CEOwww.xcopfly.com


I think I heard in the news BHO just filed some papers for the 2012
elections !


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt

Jarbidge April 4th 11 07:23 AM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:

On Apr 3, 7:52Â*pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 6:35Â*pm, AzzMazta wrote:

On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote:


Whether you like Prez "BO" {Obama} or not : BHO is the Elected US
Prez-A-Duntz and is NOT a "The-N-Word"


Obama is an "N-word" - Nimrod, that is. Also, Nonmoral.
Non-patriotic. Non-Judeo-Christian. Not-American-born. And let's not
forget, Not-electable-in-2012!!


--


Henry Pizzinger Institution
for the Mentally 31337
AzzMazta, Chairman & CEOwww.xcopfly.com


I think I heard in the news BHO just filed some papers for the 2012
elections !


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....

ExtremeRatSpending April 4th 11 02:03 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt


It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on vacation.
He is way too dorky to be anything else.


he appears to be on vacation all the time

dave April 4th 11 02:03 PM

The Elected US President: a professional teacher
 
On 04/04/2011 05:04 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:


What does the State Department have to do with presidential elections?


About as much as birth certificates.

dave April 4th 11 02:11 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On 04/04/2011 06:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt


It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on vacation.
He is way too dorky to be anything else.


he appears to be on vacation all the time


Is that supposed to be "quick" and "witty"? You're just being silly and
juvenile.


Sancho Panza April 4th 11 03:03 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:



I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.

Kevin Alfred Strom April 4th 11 03:45 PM

The Elected US President (?)
 
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote:

Whether you like Prez "BO" {Obama} or not : BHO is the
Elected US Prez-A-Duntz

[...]


Actually, there hasn't been a legally elected "US President" for
over a century.

When the government brazenly violates its own structural rules, as
has every "administration" since that of Abraham Lincoln, it cannot
be regarded as legal or constitutional.

When the legislature of Maryland was arrested and imprisoned because
they were about to "vote wrongly" -- when supposed "constitutional
amendments" were enacted under force of military occupation and
dictatorship, and near-total disenfranchisement, how can the
resulting government be regarded as a continuation of the original?
It simply can't.

The best and most honorable policy is to never refer to the current
ruling structure as "the US government" or even "the federal
government." Call it what it is: the illegal regime in Washington.


With all good wishes,


Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

dave April 4th 11 04:14 PM

Raised Seal
 
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:



I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt

Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


I needed one. They rubbed it.

jls April 4th 11 04:51 PM

Raised Seal
 
On Apr 4, 11:14*am, dave wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:





On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.


Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and
deeds registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth
Digges, smeared the impression with black ink so that it would show
up when photocopied for recording in the books held in the locked
vaults at the courthouse, and on microfiche. Now these official
documents are all digitized to save cramped courthouses a little
space, but paper documents are still indispensable. After time-
stamping and recording the original instrument, complete with the
smears, is then returned to the homeowner, lienholder, testator,
trustor, or . . .

So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. Neanderthal DNA
yet lives! You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. It's dumb as
an ox.

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] April 4th 11 05:08 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On 4/4/2011 9:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:

he [Obama] appears to be on vacation all the time


Yeah, it's not like W. Bush doesn't hold the modern ALL TIME RECORD for
being away from the White House.


Jarbidge April 4th 11 05:17 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:56:22 -0700, dave wrote:

On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt


It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on vacation.
He is way too dorky to be anything else.


Thanks for your Urkel wisdom, now **** off.

Jarbidge April 4th 11 05:17 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:46:02 -0400, BDK wrote:

In article , lid says...

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:

On Apr 3, 7:52Â*pm, wrote:
On Apr 3, 6:35Â*pm, AzzMazta wrote:

On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote:

Whether you like Prez "BO" {Obama} or not : BHO is the Elected
US Prez-A-Duntz and is NOT a "The-N-Word"

Obama is an "N-word" - Nimrod, that is. Also, Nonmoral.
Non-patriotic. Non-Judeo-Christian. Not-American-born. And let's
not forget, Not-electable-in-2012!!

--

Henry Pizzinger Institution
for the Mentally 31337
AzzMazta, Chairman & CEOwww.xcopfly.com

I think I heard in the news BHO just filed some papers for the 2012
elections !

I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's
a citz.

Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


No,



YES!

dave April 4th 11 05:19 PM

The Rest of the Story
 
On 04/04/2011 09:20 AM, Jarbidge wrote:
Congressional Government Accounting Office


(You do realize this happened during the GWB admin...)

Summary

A U.S. passport is one of the most sought after travel documents in the
world, allowing its holder entrance into the United States and many
other countries. People attempting to obtain a U.S. passport illegally
often seek to use the guise of a U.S. citizen to conceal their
involvement with more serious crimes, such as terrorism, drug
trafficking, money laundering, or murder. In March 2009, GAO reported on
weaknesses in State's passport issuance process that could allow a
terrorist or criminal to fraudulently acquire a genuine U.S. passport.
Specifically, GAO easily obtained four genuine passports from State
using counterfeit documents. In April 2009, GAO suggested that State
take 5 corrective actions based on these undercover tests and State
acknowledged those corrective actions. GAO was asked to perform
additional proactive testing of State's passport issuance process to
determine if it continues to be vulnerable to fraud. To do this work,
GAO applied for seven U.S. passports using counterfeit or fraudulently
obtained documents, such as driver's licenses and birth certificates, to
simulate scenarios based on identity theft. GAO created documents for
seven fictitious or deceased individuals using off-the-shelf,
commercially available hardware, software, and materials. Undercover
investigators applied for passports at six U.S. Postal Service locations
and one State-run passport office.

State's passport issuance process continues to be vulnerable to fraud,
as the agency issued five of the seven passports GAO attempted to
fraudulently obtain. While there were multiple indicators of fraud and
identity theft in each application, State identified only two as
fraudulent during its adjudication process and mailed five genuine U.S.
passports to undercover GAO mailboxes. GAO successfully obtained three
of these passports, but State had the remaining two recovered from the
mail before they were delivered. According to State officials, the
agency discovered--after its adjudication process--that the two
passports were part of GAO testing when they were linked to one of the
passport applications it initially denied. State officials told GAO that
they used facial recognition technology--which they could have also used
during the adjudication process--to identify the two remaining
applications. GAO's tests show that State does not consistently use data
verification and counterfeit detection techniques in its passport
issuance process. Of the five passports it issued, State did not
recognize discrepancies and suspicious indicators within each
application. Some examples include: passport photos of the same
investigator on multiple applications; a 62 year-old applicant using a
Social Security number issued in 2009; passport and driver's license
photos showing about a 10 year age difference; and the use of a
California mailing address, a West Virginia permanent address and
driver's license address, and a Washington, D.C. phone number in the
same application. These were fraud indicators that should have been
identified and questioned by State. State also failed to crosscheck the
bogus citizenship and identity documents in the applications against the
same databases that it later used to detect GAO's other fraudulent
applications. State used facial recognition technology to identify the
photos of GAO undercover investigators and to stop the subsequent
delivery of two passports but not to detect fraud in the three
applications that GAO received, which all contained a passport photo of
the same investigator.

dave April 4th 11 05:19 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On 04/04/2011 09:20 AM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:11:34 -0700, dave wrote:

On 04/04/2011 06:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's
a citz.

Curt

It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on
vacation. He is way too dorky to be anything else.

he appears to be on vacation all the time


Is that supposed to be "quick" and "witty"?


**** off.


....you're a true vulgarian, aren't you?

Jarbidge April 4th 11 05:20 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:57:17 -0700, dave wrote:

On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:



I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


Never seen a bad-papered one, fool?

http://rt.com/usa/news/fake-papers-c...passport-even-
after-9-11/


A report issued by the Congressional Government Accounting Office reveals
shocking details of how easily one can get a genuine American passport by
applying using falsified documents at a passport office.

A draft of this report was obtained by The Associated Press.

A government investigator, in order to check the security in post-9/11
America, used documents, among others, from a child and a man who died
over 40 years ago to obtain a passport – and succeeded in all his
attempts.

After the 2001 terrorist attacks, security expenses in the US
skyrocketed. Passport security was among many that were a particular
focus since the suicide terrorists that attacked the WTC and Pentagon
used fraudulent driver’s licenses to board the planes.

Now it looks like, to put it mildly, the measures taken were insufficient
and over the past seven years U.S. officials have learned nothing about
passport security and fraudulent documents.

How he did it

The investigator made four attempts to get a passport using a combination
of fake documents and was granted a new passport in all four cases.

In one case, a combination of a Social Security number of a man who died
in 1965, together with both a fake New York birth certificate and a
Florida driver's license, made it possible to get an American passport in
just four days.

Investigators gave it another try by providing the personal information
of a 5-year-old boy to the passport application office, while pretending
to be a 53-year old. He got his new passport in seven days.

The third time he made a two-step operation. He started by obtaining a
genuine Washington D.C. identity card using fake documents – and he did
it. Then he used the card to be issued a new passport in one day.

The final time the investigator used a forged New York birth certificate
along with a fake West Virginia driver's license to complete an
application for a passport which took a little more than a week – just
eight days – for him to receive.

It is unnecessary to mention that fake passports from almost any country
have a great value to the parties involved, from criminals to terrorists.

The U.S. intelligence officials from Immigration and Customs Enforcement
state in the report that a badly forged American passport costs about
$300 on the black market while the value of a top-quality forgery could
be as high as $5000.

Jarbidge April 4th 11 05:20 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:11:34 -0700, dave wrote:

On 04/04/2011 06:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's
a citz.

Curt

It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on
vacation. He is way too dorky to be anything else.


he appears to be on vacation all the time


Is that supposed to be "quick" and "witty"?


**** off.

Jarbidge April 4th 11 05:31 PM

Raised Seal
 
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:14:31 -0700, dave wrote:

On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:



I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's
a citz.

Curt

Low threshold of proof...again....

As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good
enough for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


I needed one. They rubbed it.


Others, not so much:

http://rt.com/usa/news/fake-papers-c...passport-even-
after-9-11/

A report issued by the Congressional Government Accounting Office reveals
shocking details of how easily one can get a genuine American passport by
applying using falsified documents at a passport office.

A draft of this report was obtained by The Associated Press.

A government investigator, in order to check the security in post-9/11
America, used documents, among others, from a child and a man who died
over 40 years ago to obtain a passport – and succeeded in all his
attempts.

After the 2001 terrorist attacks, security expenses in the US
skyrocketed. Passport security was among many that were a particular
focus since the suicide terrorists that attacked the WTC and Pentagon
used fraudulent driver’s licenses to board the planes.

Now it looks like, to put it mildly, the measures taken were insufficient
and over the past seven years U.S. officials have learned nothing about
passport security and fraudulent documents.

How he did it

The investigator made four attempts to get a passport using a combination
of fake documents and was granted a new passport in all four cases.

In one case, a combination of a Social Security number of a man who died
in 1965, together with both a fake New York birth certificate and a
Florida driver's license, made it possible to get an American passport in
just four days.

Investigators gave it another try by providing the personal information
of a 5-year-old boy to the passport application office, while pretending
to be a 53-year old. He got his new passport in seven days.

The third time he made a two-step operation. He started by obtaining a
genuine Washington D.C. identity card using fake documents – and he did
it. Then he used the card to be issued a new passport in one day.

The final time the investigator used a forged New York birth certificate
along with a fake West Virginia driver's license to complete an
application for a passport which took a little more than a week – just
eight days – for him to receive.

It is unnecessary to mention that fake passports from almost any country
have a great value to the parties involved, from criminals to terrorists.

The U.S. intelligence officials from Immigration and Customs Enforcement
state in the report that a badly forged American passport costs about
$300 on the black market while the value of a top-quality forgery could
be as high as $5000.

Sancho Panza April 4th 11 05:31 PM

Raised Seal
 
On 4/4/2011 11:14 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:



I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt

Low threshold of proof...again....

As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


I needed one. They rubbed it.


That could be because of who you are. But naturalized citizens who
obtain U.S. passports can in now way have U.S. birth certificates.


Jarbidge April 4th 11 05:58 PM

Raised Seal
 
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:51:03 -0700, JLS wrote:

On Apr 4, 11:14Â*am, dave wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:





On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that
he's a citz.


Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good
enough for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and deeds
registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth Digges,
smeared the impression with black ink so that it would show up when
photocopied for recording in the books held in the locked vaults at the
courthouse, and on microfiche. Now these official documents are all
digitized to save cramped courthouses a little space, but paper
documents are still indispensable. After time- stamping and recording
the original instrument, complete with the smears, is then returned to
the homeowner, lienholder, testator, trustor, or . . .

So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. Neanderthal DNA yet
lives! You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. It's dumb as an
ox.


Does not explain why Obama refuses to release his long form.

Or why Abercrombie went silent...

Nice spin though.

http://www.infowars.com/abercrombie-...iscover-obama-
birth-certificate/

Veteran reporter Mike Evans has described in a radio interview how Hawaii
Governor and close friend Neil Abercrombie was shocked at his failure to
discover Obama’s birth certificate after using his power to search
hospital records, an outcome that could seriously impact President Obama’s
re-election campaign.

“Now he admits publicly that there is no birth certificate,” said Evans
of Abercrombie.

Jarbidge April 4th 11 06:11 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:08:00 -0400, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 4/4/2011 9:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:

he [Obama] appears to be on vacation all the time


Yeah, it's not like W. Bush doesn't hold the modern ALL TIME RECORD for
being away from the White House.


Yeah, it's not like Crawford wasn't the White House West, you stupid
libitard hack.

Oh, they weren't flying lobster in with Putin either, were they?

jls April 4th 11 06:15 PM

Raised Seal
 
On Apr 4, 12:58*pm, Jarbidge wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:51:03 -0700, JLS wrote:
On Apr 4, 11:14*am, dave wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:


On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that
he's a citz.


Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good
enough for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and deeds
registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth Digges,
smeared the impression with black ink so that it would show up when
photocopied for recording in the books held in the locked vaults at the
courthouse, and on microfiche. *Now these official documents are all
digitized to save cramped courthouses a little space, but paper
documents are still indispensable. *After time- stamping and recording
the original instrument, complete with the smears, is then returned to
the homeowner, lienholder, testator, trustor, or . . .


So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. *Neanderthal DNA yet
lives! *You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. *It's dumb as an
ox.


Does not explain why Obama refuses to release his long form.

Or why Abercrombie went silent...

Nice spin though.

http://www.infowars.com/abercrombie-...iscover-obama-
birth-certificate/

Veteran reporter Mike Evans has described in a radio interview how Hawaii
Governor and close friend Neil Abercrombie was shocked at his failure to
discover Obama’s birth certificate after using his power to search
hospital records, an outcome that could seriously impact President Obama’s
re-election campaign.

“Now he admits publicly that there is no birth certificate,” said Evans
of Abercrombie.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Be careful what you ask for, jarbutt. BTW, magpie conspiracy
theorist, stash away a hundred-dollar bill if you can muster it. Your
time is coming.

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/birth-...st-revised/123

[email protected] April 4th 11 07:21 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Apr 4, 9:03*am, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, dave wrote:

On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.


Curt


It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on vacation.
He is way too dorky to be anything else.


he appears to be on vacation all the time


Apparently he is so happy he survived the filth and muck of DC
politics for over 2 years ! May be there is a 'monica' or an
'obamagate ' in the works . . .

[email protected] April 4th 11 07:48 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Apr 4, 12:20*pm, Jarbidge wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:57:17 -0700, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.


Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


Never seen a bad-papered one, fool?

http://rt.com/usa/news/fake-papers-c...can-passport-e...
after-9-11/

A report issued by the Congressional Government Accounting Office reveals
shocking details of how easily one can get a genuine American passport by
applying using falsified documents at a passport office.

A draft of this report was obtained by The Associated Press.

A government investigator, in order to check the security in post-9/11
America, used documents, among others, from a child and a man who died
over 40 years ago to obtain a passport – and succeeded in all his
attempts.

After the 2001 terrorist attacks, security expenses in the US
skyrocketed. Passport security was among many that were a particular
focus since the suicide terrorists that attacked the WTC and Pentagon
used fraudulent driver’s licenses to board the planes.

Now it looks like, to put it mildly, the measures taken were insufficient
and over the past seven years U.S. officials have learned nothing about
passport security and fraudulent documents.

How he did it

The investigator made four attempts to get a passport using a combination
of fake documents and was granted a new passport in all four cases.

In one case, a combination of a Social Security number of a man who died
in 1965, together with both a fake New York birth certificate and a
Florida driver's license, made it possible to get an American passport in
just four days.

Investigators gave it another try by providing the personal information
of a 5-year-old boy to the passport application office, while pretending
to be a 53-year old. He got his new passport in seven days.

The third time he made a two-step operation. He started by obtaining a
genuine Washington D.C. identity card using fake documents – and he did
it. Then he used the card to be issued a new passport in one day.

The final time the investigator used a forged New York birth certificate
along with a fake West Virginia driver's license to complete an
application for a passport which took a little more than a week – just
eight days – for him to receive.

It is unnecessary to mention that fake passports from almost any country
have a great value to the parties involved, from criminals to terrorists.

The U.S. intelligence officials from Immigration and Customs Enforcement
state in the report that a badly forged American passport costs about
$300 on the black market while the value of a top-quality forgery could
be as high as $5000.


Do you trust everything that Russian TV (ministry of Propaganda by
Putin , an ex-Lieutenant-Colonel of KGB) claims as a true and reliable
source ?

[email protected] April 4th 11 08:00 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Apr 4, 1:11*pm, Jarbidge wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:08:00 -0400, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 4/4/2011 9:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:


he [Obama] appears to be on vacation all the time


Yeah, it's not like W. Bush doesn't hold the modern ALL TIME RECORD for
being away from the White House.


Yeah, it's not like Crawford wasn't the White House West, you stupid
libitard hack.

Oh, they weren't flying lobster in with Putin either, were they?


Never heard of a 'flying lobster' before . Aren't the ones caught at
Kennebunkport of Maine good enough ?

Bill Shatzer April 4th 11 09:08 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
Sancho Panza wrote:

On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:

On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:



I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


Well, either that or a Naturalization Cerificate.

In the absense of any evidence of naturalization, I think we can safely
assume that a US birth certificate was presented.

peace and justice,


Sancho Panza April 4th 11 10:00 PM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On 4/4/2011 4:08 PM, Bill Shatzer wrote:
Sancho Panza wrote:

On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:

On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:



I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.

Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


Well, either that or a Naturalization Cerificate.

In the absense of any evidence of naturalization, I think we can safely
assume that a US birth certificate was presented.


You're making quite a presumption on blind faith (or hope). AFAIK, there
has not been a FOIA or cognate request for a check of those papers.


Curt[_2_] April 5th 11 07:32 AM

Raised Seal
 
On Apr 4, 8:58*am, Jarbidge wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:51:03 -0700, JLS wrote:
On Apr 4, 11:14*am, dave wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:


On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that
he's a citz.


Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good
enough for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and deeds
registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth Digges,
smeared the impression with black ink so that it would show up when
photocopied for recording in the books held in the locked vaults at the
courthouse, and on microfiche. *Now these official documents are all
digitized to save cramped courthouses a little space, but paper
documents are still indispensable. *After time- stamping and recording
the original instrument, complete with the smears, is then returned to
the homeowner, lienholder, testator, trustor, or . . .


So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. *Neanderthal DNA yet
lives! *You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. *It's dumb as an
ox.


Does not explain why Obama refuses to release his long form.


Why should he? Anyone who doesn't accept the documentation of the
Great State of Hawaii wouldn't accept any other documents either.
****em.

Anyways, the state says he was born there. The state registrar of
whatever is a Republican. He was born in Hawaii, and anyone who cavils
or truckles over that undisputed fact is clearly a nutter. Which is
why I so blithely dismiss anything JSM posts as nutter stuff. Cause,
well, he's a nutter.

Curt

Curt[_2_] April 5th 11 07:34 AM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Apr 4, 11:00*am, wrote:
On Apr 4, 1:11*pm, Jarbidge wrote:

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:08:00 -0400, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 4/4/2011 9:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:


he [Obama] appears to be on vacation all the time


Yeah, it's not like W. Bush doesn't hold the modern ALL TIME RECORD for
being away from the White House.


Yeah, it's not like Crawford wasn't the White House West, you stupid
libitard hack.


Oh, they weren't flying lobster in with Putin either, were they?


Never heard of a 'flying lobster' before .


It's like a "dirty Sanchez".

Curt

Curt[_2_] April 5th 11 07:36 AM

The Elected US President Is NOT a "The-N-Word"
 
On Apr 4, 1:00*pm, Sancho Panza wrote:
On 4/4/2011 4:08 PM, Bill Shatzer wrote:





Sancho Panza wrote:


On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:


On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:


On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a
citz.


Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough
for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


Well, either that or a Naturalization Cerificate.


In the absense of any evidence of naturalization, I think we can safely
assume that a US birth certificate was presented.


You're making quite a presumption on blind faith (or hope). AFAIK, there
has not been a FOIA or cognate request for a check of those papers.-


Them guys at the State Department, see, they're better at catching
cheaters than you, and they're smarter than you.

FOIA is irrelevant, as far as you're concerned. State's already done
its job. Keep it separated, man -- they'll do the background checks,
you pump the gas. It'll all work out.

Curt

dave April 5th 11 01:28 PM

Constitution requires no written proof
 
On 04/04/2011 09:58 AM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:51:03 -0700, JLS wrote:

On Apr 4, 11:14 am, wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:





On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:

I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that
he's a citz.

Curt

Low threshold of proof...again....

As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good
enough for me.

You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.

I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and deeds
registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth Digges,
smeared the impression with black ink so that it would show up when
photocopied for recording in the books held in the locked vaults at the
courthouse, and on microfiche. Now these official documents are all
digitized to save cramped courthouses a little space, but paper
documents are still indispensable. After time- stamping and recording
the original instrument, complete with the smears, is then returned to
the homeowner, lienholder, testator, trustor, or . . .

So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. Neanderthal DNA yet
lives! You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. It's dumb as an
ox.


Does not explain why Obama refuses to release his long form.

Or why Abercrombie went silent...

Nice spin though.

http://www.infowars.com/abercrombie-...iscover-obama-
birth-certificate/

Veteran reporter Mike Evans has described in a radio interview how Hawaii
Governor and close friend Neil Abercrombie was shocked at his failure to
discover Obama’s birth certificate after using his power to search
hospital records, an outcome that could seriously impact President Obama’s
re-election campaign.

“Now he admits publicly that there is no birth certificate,” said Evans
of Abercrombie.



Lobby Dosser April 6th 11 05:21 AM

Raised Seal
 
"Jarbidge" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 20:24:36 -0700, Lobby Dosser wrote:

"Jarbidge" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 09:13:52 -0400, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:

On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 09:06:10 -0400, Sancho Panza
wrote:

On 4/5/2011 2:32 AM, Curt wrote:
On Apr 4, 8:58 am, wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:51:03 -0700, JLS wrote:
On Apr 4, 11:14 am, wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:

On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:

I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied
that he's a citz.

Curt

Low threshold of proof...again....

As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is
good enough for me.

You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S.
passport.

I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and
deeds registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth
Digges, smeared the impression with black ink so that it would
show up when photocopied for recording in the books held in the
locked vaults at the courthouse, and on microfiche. Now these
official documents are all digitized to save cramped courthouses a
little space, but paper documents are still indispensable. After
time- stamping and recording the original instrument, complete
with the smears, is then returned to the homeowner, lienholder,
testator, trustor, or . . .

So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. Neanderthal
DNA yet lives! You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. It's
dumb as an ox.

Does not explain why Obama refuses to release his long form.

Why should he?

Because the hypocritical media and its acolytes demand it of people
like McCain and Trump.



When has anyone demanded McCain's birth certificate?

You ****ing stupid, lying, verminous old alleged "ex-field commander"
POS:


Nah, it's not the West Point General, is it?


LOL!



Is it??


Jarbidge April 6th 11 05:40 AM

Raised Seal
 
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 20:24:36 -0700, Lobby Dosser wrote:

"Jarbidge" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 09:13:52 -0400, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:

On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 09:06:10 -0400, Sancho Panza
wrote:

On 4/5/2011 2:32 AM, Curt wrote:
On Apr 4, 8:58 am, wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:51:03 -0700, JLS wrote:
On Apr 4, 11:14 am, wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:

On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:

I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied
that he's a citz.

Curt

Low threshold of proof...again....

As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is
good enough for me.

You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S.
passport.

I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and
deeds registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth
Digges, smeared the impression with black ink so that it would
show up when photocopied for recording in the books held in the
locked vaults at the courthouse, and on microfiche. Now these
official documents are all digitized to save cramped courthouses a
little space, but paper documents are still indispensable. After
time- stamping and recording the original instrument, complete
with the smears, is then returned to the homeowner, lienholder,
testator, trustor, or . . .

So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. Neanderthal
DNA yet lives! You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. It's
dumb as an ox.

Does not explain why Obama refuses to release his long form.

Why should he?

Because the hypocritical media and its acolytes demand it of people
like McCain and Trump.



When has anyone demanded McCain's birth certificate?


You ****ing stupid, lying, verminous old alleged "ex-field commander"
POS:


Nah, it's not the West Point General, is it?


LOL!

Jarbidge April 6th 11 05:41 AM

Constitution requires no written proof
 
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 20:30:19 -0700, Lobby Dosser wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
On 04/04/2011 09:58 AM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:51:03 -0700, JLS wrote:

On Apr 4, 11:14 am, wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:





On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:

I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that
he's a citz.

Curt

Low threshold of proof...again....

As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good
enough for me.

You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.

I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and
deeds registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth
Digges, smeared the impression with black ink so that it would show
up when photocopied for recording in the books held in the locked
vaults at the courthouse, and on microfiche. Now these official
documents are all digitized to save cramped courthouses a little
space, but paper documents are still indispensable. After time-
stamping and recording the original instrument, complete with the
smears, is then returned to the homeowner, lienholder, testator,
trustor, or . . .

So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. Neanderthal DNA
yet lives! You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. It's dumb
as an ox.

Does not explain why Obama refuses to release his long form.

Or why Abercrombie went silent...

Nice spin though.

http://www.infowars.com/abercrombie-...iscover-obama-
birth-certificate/

Veteran reporter Mike Evans has described in a radio interview how
Hawaii Governor and close friend Neil Abercrombie was shocked at his
failure to discover Obama’s birth certificate after using his power to
search hospital records, an outcome that could seriously impact
President Obama’s re-election campaign.

“Now he admits publicly that there is no birth certificate,” said
Evans of Abercrombie.



Choked on your own bile, eh!! LOL


Delicious!

[email protected] April 6th 11 08:15 AM

Raised Seal
 
On Apr 5, 9:13*am, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 09:06:10 -0400, Sancho Panza





wrote:
On 4/5/2011 2:32 AM, Curt wrote:
On Apr 4, 8:58 am, *wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:51:03 -0700, JLS wrote:
On Apr 4, 11:14 am, *wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:


On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that
he's a citz.


Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good
enough for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and deeds
registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth Digges,
smeared the impression with black ink so that it would show up when
photocopied for recording in the books held in the locked vaults at the
courthouse, and on microfiche. *Now these official documents are all
digitized to save cramped courthouses a little space, but paper
documents are still indispensable. *After time- stamping and recording
the original instrument, complete with the smears, is then returned to
the homeowner, lienholder, testator, trustor, or . . .


So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. *Neanderthal DNA yet
lives! *You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. *It's dumb as an
ox.


Does not explain why Obama refuses to release his long form.


Why should he?


Because the hypocritical media and its acolytes demand it of people like
McCain and Trump.


When has anyone demanded McCain's birth certificate?

No one demanded Trump's birth cert. *In a publicity stunt, he released
what he thought was his birth cert, only it was the wrong form!!

Dog**** stupid and bat**** crazy -- every last one of you.





*Anyone who doesn't accept the documentation of the
Great State of Hawaii wouldn't accept any other documents either.
****em.


Even Obama's good buddy, the governor, can't find the true certificate
that he was so sure was on file.


Anyways, the state says he was born there. The state registrar of
whatever is a Republican. He was born in Hawaii, and anyone who cavils
or truckles over that undisputed fact is clearly a nutter. Which is
why I so blithely dismiss anything JSM posts as nutter stuff. Cause,
well, he's a nutter.


Curt- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


McCain was offcially born in Panama Canal Zone.

RHF April 6th 11 11:13 AM

One Wonders... Was "BO" Ever Officially Born ?
 
On Apr 6, 12:15*am, wrote:
On Apr 5, 9:13*am, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names









wrote:
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 09:06:10 -0400, Sancho Panza


wrote:
On 4/5/2011 2:32 AM, Curt wrote:
On Apr 4, 8:58 am, *wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:51:03 -0700, JLS wrote:
On Apr 4, 11:14 am, *wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:


On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:


I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that
he's a citz.


Curt


Low threshold of proof...again....


As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good
enough for me.


You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.


NeoCommunistIgnoranus April 6th 11 12:38 PM

Raised Seal
 
On 4/5/2011 11:28 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
"NeoCommunistIgnoranus" wrote in message
...
On 4/5/2011 11:40 AM, JLS wrote:
On Apr 5, 9:06 am, Sancho wrote:
On 4/5/2011 2:32 AM, Curt wrote:





On Apr 4, 8:58 am, wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:51:03 -0700, JLS wrote:
On Apr 4, 11:14 am, wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:

On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote:

I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that
he's a citz.

Curt

Low threshold of proof...again....

As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good
enough for me.

You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport.

I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and
deeds
registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth Digges,
smeared the impression with black ink so that it would show up when
photocopied for recording in the books held in the locked vaults
at the
courthouse, and on microfiche. Now these official documents are all
digitized to save cramped courthouses a little space, but paper
documents are still indispensable. After time- stamping and
recording
the original instrument, complete with the smears, is then
returned to
the homeowner, lienholder, testator, trustor, or . . .

So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. Neanderthal
DNA yet
lives! You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. It's dumb as an
ox.

Does not explain why Obama refuses to release his long form.

Why should he?

Because the hypocritical media and its acolytes demand it of people
like
McCain and Trump.

Anyone who doesn't accept the documentation of the

Great State of Hawaii wouldn't accept any other documents either.
****em.

Even Obama's good buddy, the governor, can't find the true certificate
that he was so sure was on file.

Not true. The governor could not obtain the information he was
seeking because it is confidential, even to him.

That said, a valid birth certificate has already been produced and
proven to be genuine and valid for all purposes including Obama's 1961
live birth in Hawaii.


oh really, a genuine one just like the one the chinese leader who was
born in China got? doesn't seem genuine if you are born in china but
got a bc like Obama's, does it?

"Born in China but has a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth”. No less than
the Father of Modern China, the great hero, Dr. Sun Yat-Sen!!!"

http://james4america.wordpress.com/2...ded-in-hawaii/


splain that to me, oh all knowing libby.



African is a race?


Darfur is a race in the desert with cars and trucks.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:08 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
RadioBanter.com