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[email protected] May 10th 11 01:55 AM

A CASE OF WHODUNIT!
 
http://www.rense.com/general94/bin.htm

12 hours to do a DNA test, including getting the result? I don't know,
but isn't that Amazing?
cuhulin


joeturn May 10th 11 02:12 AM

A CASE OF WHODUNIT!
 
On May 9, 8:51*pm, joeturn wrote:
On May 9, 7:26*pm, "Scout"
wrote:





"joeturn" wrote in message


...


On May 8, 8:03 pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:


...
You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of
reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you
retard?


Really?


Yes, really!


Well, it is simple, prove what you say.


I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.


* YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have to
answer my questions, you retard.


Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.


ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!


You said YOU have proof, right?
* Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?


It was your Government that was guilty


Proof?


Didn't think you had any.


and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
public!- Hide quoted text -


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The only thing this guy got wrong was the fuselage.It was not a
fuselage it was the rocket plume the rocket is up front in plain view!
Black nose,white center, black tail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-...layer_embedded

Page two shows the first rocket in a wav just over and over.Did you
see a plane?

http://letsrollforums.com/helicopter...licopter+pilot

Scout May 10th 11 05:46 AM

A CASE OF WHODUNIT!
 


"joeturn" wrote in message
...
On May 9, 7:26 pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

...





On May 8, 8:03 pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:


...
You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of
reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you
retard?


Really?


Yes, really!


Well, it is simple, prove what you say.


I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.


YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have
to
answer my questions, you retard.


Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.


ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!


You said YOU have proof, right?
Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?


It was your Government that was guilty


Proof?

Didn't think you had any.



and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
public!- Hide quoted text -


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The fbi released a five frame video that shows a missile in
flight.That missile has a rocket plume behind it.It all so shows the
left behing explosion of the first rocket hit and another one
inflight.So that release has three traces of rockets fired at the
pentagram and funnything it could not display an airplane at all.

Then there is another FOIA relesed by them of a helicopter video that
shows the impact of a rocket but there also was no evidence of any
airplane visible not even a fly over!

There also is a video that shows the missing footaget of the missile
attack! I'll fecth them for you.BRB


And yet STILL no proof offered, just more unsupported assertions.



Scout May 10th 11 06:02 AM

A CASE OF WHODUNIT!
 


"joeturn" wrote in message
...
On May 9, 7:26 pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

...





On May 8, 8:03 pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:


...
You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of
reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you
retard?


Really?


Yes, really!


Well, it is simple, prove what you say.


I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.


YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have
to
answer my questions, you retard.


Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.


ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!


You said YOU have proof, right?
Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?


It was your Government that was guilty


Proof?

Didn't think you had any.



and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
public!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-...layer_embedded


OMG, this is your proof?

Some asswipe that doesn't even understand that video is taken in a series of
FRAMES (ie individual pictures) and that the apparent motion is only a
result of looking at individual pictures in quick succession? That high
speed movement of an object will cause it to appear to leap from place to
place as you look at each individual picture in succession? That when you
slow a video WAY down, what you are doing is simply looking at one
individual picture for awhile and then switching to the next picture which
you look at for awhile and then you look at the next picture for awhile.
That what you see as slow motion in movies and so on is actually shoot at a
considerably higher number of frames per second and then played back at the
number rate making the motion appear slower.

With this as an example of your "proof" I'm not even going to waste my time
looking at the other link, or even bother looking at any of your claims of
'proof' because you don't even have enough intelligence to recognize the
flaws in the assertions made by these people you rely upon for your proof.

The only person who could possibly buy this sort of crap as 'proof' is
someone who is a ****ing stupid moron incapable of any sort of independent
evaluation of their own, but simply buy the claims of other ****ing stupid
morons as "proof".


http://letsrollforums.com/helicopter...licopter+pilot



Scout May 10th 11 06:05 AM

A CASE OF WHODUNIT!
 


"joeturn" wrote in message
...
On May 9, 8:51 pm, joeturn wrote:
On May 9, 7:26 pm, "Scout"
wrote:





"joeturn" wrote in message


...


On May 8, 8:03 pm, Jim Kale wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 5/8/2011 9:34 AM, Jim Kale wrote:


...
You really are retarded if you think that **** holds any kind of
reality.
So uh, who's been charged for this "crime", you retard?
I mean if it's "proof", then why isn't anybody being charged, you
retard?


Really?


Yes, really!


Well, it is simple, prove what you say.


I am not obligated to prove a negative, you retard.


YOU have to prove what you say is correct, and then YOU still have
to
answer my questions, you retard.


Your "list" of "experts" are all known retards, like you.


ANSWER MY QUESTION, you retard!


You said YOU have proof, right?
Then WHY isn't anybody being arrested, charged, indicted,
incarcerated, etc., You stump stupid retard?


It was your Government that was guilty


Proof?


Didn't think you had any.


and they seem to have
diplomatic immunity from the Supreme Law of the Land.This is why
noone
has been charged. They are in control of all three branches of
government the Excecutive,Legistlative and Judicial system. You can't
get a judge to try a case against their government,that would be
considered treason.Anything that gets excepted as a case gets
dismissed.Bush got his cousin to throw the case against him out.The
lady knew she was meant to be killed at the Pentagon and also knew no
plane hit the Pentagon. This is the smoking gun "the missile attack
at
the Pentagon" and the shills are full force keeping that from the
public!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



The only thing this guy got wrong was


EVERYTHING. Doesn't have the FIRST clue of how video works and that a video
is actually just a serious of individual pictures and WOW when you slow down
a video enough.....all you see is an individual picture showing NO movement
until suddenly the next picture loads and the object leads across the frame.

Dude, buy a ****ing clue, you're just butt ass stupid and ignorant.



the fuselage.It was not a
fuselage it was the rocket plume the rocket is up front in plain view!
Black nose,white center, black tail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-...layer_embedded

Page two shows the first rocket in a wav just over and over.Did you
see a plane?

http://letsrollforums.com/helicopter...licopter+pilot



Scout May 10th 11 06:07 AM

A CASE OF WHODUNIT!
 


"joeturn" wrote in message
...
On May 9, 7:15 pm, "Scout"
wrote:
"joeturn" wrote in message

...





On May 7, 3:57 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Smith wrote:


On 5/6/2011 11:14 AM, Jah Wobble wrote:


...
Right.. and NOTHING in the building was flamable and the sprinklers
were
in perfect working order.
You retard.


I wonder who placed the demolitions in the building so precise and
so
undercover, that the THOUSANDS of people that work there 24/7,
never
saw
anything going on. Any idear, you retard?


Burnt off in 15 minutes!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!


Normal high-rise fires containing all that NEVER melt iron nor leave
nano thermite residue.


The residues of thermite are iron and aluminum oxide. THE most
common metals used in high-rise construction.


--
Ray Fischer | Mendacracy (n.) government by lying
| The new GOP ideal- Hide quoted text -


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but if they have been combined with barrium they form sphears which is
a tale tell sign of thermate use.


Really? I've got all sorts of metal slag spheres around our burning
table,
and oddly enough not only do we not use thermite, there is not barrium
used
in the cutting process. Just good old natural gas and oxygen.

So please support your claim that spheres automatically mean barrium and
thermite.

Oh, that's right, you don't do proof for your assertions.- Hide quoted
text -

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You felled to connect the dots spheres that are made from iron and
sulfer that do contain barrium is the tell tell sign that Thermate was
used!

You cutting torch would take mega time to cut through vertical columns
this is why natural gas and oxygen torches are not used for controlled
demolition.


Actually, they are. A LOT. In fact in most controlled demolition they are
used.

Even in explosive controlled demolition much of the prep work is done via
these exact sort of cutting torches.

I really suggest you need to STFU and quit simply embarrassing yourself with
your stupidity and ignorance.




Scout May 10th 11 06:11 AM

A CASE OF WHODUNIT!
 


"Iarnrod" wrote in message
...
On May 9, 6:17 pm, joeturn wrote:
On May 9, 7:15 pm, "Scout"
wrote:



"joeturn" wrote in message


...


On May 7, 3:57 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
John Smith wrote:


On 5/6/2011 11:14 AM, Jah Wobble wrote:


...
Right.. and NOTHING in the building was flamable and the
sprinklers
were
in perfect working order.
You retard.


I wonder who placed the demolitions in the building so precise
and so
undercover, that the THOUSANDS of people that work there 24/7,
never
saw
anything going on. Any idear, you retard?


Burnt off in 15 minutes!
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA!


Normal high-rise fires containing all that NEVER melt iron nor
leave
nano thermite residue.


The residues of thermite are iron and aluminum oxide. THE most
common metals used in high-rise construction.


--
Ray Fischer | Mendacracy (n.) government by lying
| The new GOP ideal- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


but if they have been combined with barrium they form sphears which
is
a tale tell sign of thermate use.


Really? I've got all sorts of metal slag spheres around our burning
table,
and oddly enough not only do we not use thermite, there is not barrium
used
in the cutting process. Just good old natural gas and oxygen.


So please support your claim that spheres automatically mean barrium
and
thermite.


Oh, that's right, you don't do proof for your assertions.- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


You felled to connect the dots spheres that are made from iron and
sulfer that do contain barrium is the tell tell sign that Thermate was
used!


It is a complete physical impossibility for thermite to do what
happened to those buildings. It's not possible. FULL STOP!


Yep, all but impossible to cut a column with thermite. It will simply drip
off and do little or nothing to the column itself.

You cutting torch would take mega time to cut through vertical columns
this is why natural gas and oxygen torches are not used for controlled
demolition.


Thermite is not used in controlled demolition, ever.


Yea, and cutting torches actually are used in controlled demolition.

During a controlled demolition the columns are fitted with a yoke that
contains the thermite


There is no thermite in controlled demolition, RockHead.

and holds it on the targeted column on about a
45 degree angle. This angle cut allows the top part to slip off its
base and drop straight down. You can see clear pictures of these
angled cuts on the columns. You would never use your torch to cut an
angled cut on a beam unless it was for a specific outcome.


Those beams at Ground Zero were cut with torches AFTER the collapse by
workers cleaning up the debris, kooker. There are PHOTOS and VIDEOS of
them doing this. You are STUPID BEYOND BELIEF.


Cut with torches? You mean like in being used in controlled demolition?

Say it's not so.



joeturn May 10th 11 06:29 AM

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On May 10, 1:15*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/9/2011 10:05 PM, joeturn wrote:

*...
Those beams at Ground Zero were cut with torches AFTER the collapse by
workers cleaning up the debris, kooker. There are PHOTOS and VIDEOS of
them doing this. You are STUPID BEYOND BELIEF.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Like this one?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO7SvhYI_0Y&NR=1


Best thing about that video, it was BEFORE the cleanup crew comes in to
clean up!

Those are first responder firemen on the scene in that one! *NOT
demolition employees ...

Regards,
JS


I know for a fact an Ironworker wont cut a column on an angle rather
than straight through because of the time it would take.Who would want
to spend soo much time in all that heat and asbestos dust,when they
could cut the shortest and quicker path and move on to the next cut,a
junkyard man has better since that that!

John Smith[_7_] May 10th 11 06:34 AM

A CASE OF WHODUNIT!
 
On 5/9/2011 10:29 PM, joeturn wrote:

...
I know for a fact an Ironworker wont cut a column on an angle rather
than straight through because of the time it would take.Who would want
to spend soo much time in all that heat and asbestos dust,when they
could cut the shortest and quicker path and move on to the next cut,a
junkyard man has better since that that!


Ever fall a tree with a chainsaw?

Same angled cut is used to control the direction of fall, else the
worker cutting a long beam is likely to be endangered having to scramble
out of its' way.

No, people cutting beams with a torch would be just as likely to make
angled cuts as demolition workers, and for the same reasons, to control
the direction of movement. With the demolition expert, he is attempting
to shift the building in a predetermined direction, in the case of the
torch/cutter, he is attempting a fall in a predetermined direction ...
neither adds nor subtracts from existing evidence and proof.

But, like I said, those are first responders on the scene, those beams
are cut at angles, and the cleanup crew hasn't gotten there yet ...

Regards,
JS

joeturn May 10th 11 06:53 AM

A CASE OF WHODUNIT!
 
On May 10, 1:34*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/9/2011 10:29 PM, joeturn wrote:

...
I know for a fact an Ironworker wont cut a column on an angle rather
than straight through because of the time it would take.Who would want
to spend soo much time in all that heat and asbestos dust,when they
could cut the shortest and quicker path and move on to the next cut,a
junkyard man has better since that that!


Ever fall a tree with a chainsaw?

Same angled cut is used to control the direction of fall, else the
worker cutting a long beam is likely to be endangered having to scramble
out of its' way.

No, people cutting beams with a torch would be just as likely to make
angled cuts as demolition workers, and for the same reasons, to control
the direction of movement. *With the demolition expert, he is attempting
to shift the building in a predetermined direction, in the case of the
torch/cutter, he is attempting a fall in a predetermined direction ...
neither adds nor subtracts from existing evidence and proof.

But, like I said, those are first responders on the scene, those beams
are cut at angles, and the cleanup crew hasn't gotten there yet ...

Regards,
JS


Thermite was not used for its ability to cause an explosion or to blow
the building apart it was used strickly because of its instantanious
cutting ability in incentarary devices and very quite no loud
explosions.

This is what NIST tried to pull off,to explain away the level of noise
needed to blow a building up. It only had to be loud enough to burn
the columns into! The sheeple swallowed the loud explosion part and
this fed their fancy.

If you quietly cut all the vertical support columns then a minor
explosion creating a jolt would set off the collapse!


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