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bpnjensen May 9th 11 09:30 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
OK, so you guys have heard of Family Radio, no doubt. Their studios
are just 10 miles from where I live and their main transmitter on HF
is in Okeedokee, er Okeechbee, Florida. Harold Camping, the founder
and genius behind Family Radio, has predicted with stunning accuracy
and without overt prophecy from the Almighty, that the rapture will
occur on May 21, 2011, although we cannot yet tell if it will be
before or after lunch.

Anyway, so I'm groovin' along down the street after having gotten a
sandwich (vegetarian, of course - God loves animals and does not enjoy
seeing them harmed needlessly) and soft drink, and what do I spy but a
Family Radio minivan with two very friendly chaps setting up a sign
that sayeth, "Judgment Day May 21, 2011." I stop and smile knowingly
at this, and one of them energetically hands me several "End Times"
brochures and a handful of spanking new full-color business cards with
glossy overcoat that also declare as much.

Well - What can I say? What can I do? I am dumbfounded and amused as
I, an ordinary shortwave radio enthusiast and occasional listener to
the Family Radio interval signal (as it covers up the desired signals
from Pakistan or Bhutan), am CHOSEN by Harold Camping's hand-selected
assistants to receive the Word and also to pass out the Word on fancy
little business cards! It must be a sign, a revelation, a not-so-
subtle message from the great beyond that, for the next 12 days, it is
my predestiny to proseletyze profoundly on this preposterously proven
prostitution, er, I mean, postulation.

So there you have it, the story of my improbable conversion to TBOTET
(True Believer of the End Times) and chosen cherub of chicanery. I
will have photos up of the business cards later so that you, too, can
become a convert. (These cards will also be nice souvenirs of
interesting times when we reach May 22, 2011 without substantial
transsubstantiation ;-)

Somebody's humble servant (we won't say whose ;-),
Bruce Jensen (CA - USA)

dxAce May 9th 11 09:47 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 


bpnjensen wrote:

OK, so you guys have heard of Family Radio, no doubt. Their studios
are just 10 miles from where I live and their main transmitter on HF
is in Okeedokee, er Okeechbee, Florida. Harold Camping, the founder
and genius behind Family Radio, has predicted with stunning accuracy
and without overt prophecy from the Almighty, that the rapture will
occur on May 21, 2011, although we cannot yet tell if it will be
before or after lunch.

Anyway, so I'm groovin' along down the street after having gotten a
sandwich (vegetarian, of course - God loves animals and does not enjoy
seeing them harmed needlessly) and soft drink, and what do I spy but a
Family Radio minivan with two very friendly chaps setting up a sign
that sayeth, "Judgment Day May 21, 2011." I stop and smile knowingly
at this, and one of them energetically hands me several "End Times"
brochures and a handful of spanking new full-color business cards with
glossy overcoat that also declare as much.

Well - What can I say? What can I do? I am dumbfounded and amused as
I, an ordinary shortwave radio enthusiast and occasional listener to
the Family Radio interval signal (as it covers up the desired signals
from Pakistan or Bhutan), am CHOSEN by Harold Camping's hand-selected
assistants to receive the Word and also to pass out the Word on fancy
little business cards! It must be a sign, a revelation, a not-so-
subtle message from the great beyond that, for the next 12 days, it is
my predestiny to proseletyze profoundly on this preposterously proven
prostitution, er, I mean, postulation.

So there you have it, the story of my improbable conversion to TBOTET
(True Believer of the End Times) and chosen cherub of chicanery. I
will have photos up of the business cards later so that you, too, can
become a convert. (These cards will also be nice souvenirs of
interesting times when we reach May 22, 2011 without substantial
transsubstantiation ;-)

Somebody's humble servant (we won't say whose ;-),


Oh my, this just might disrupt the Preakness on May, 21.

Do horses get to take part in the Rapture?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



bpnjensen May 9th 11 09:51 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On May 9, 1:47*pm, dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
OK, so you guys have heard of Family Radio, no doubt. *Their studios
are just 10 miles from where I live and their main transmitter on HF
is in Okeedokee, er Okeechbee, Florida. *Harold Camping, the founder
and genius behind Family Radio, has predicted with stunning accuracy
and without overt prophecy from the Almighty, that the rapture will
occur on May 21, 2011, although we cannot yet tell if it will be
before or after lunch.


Anyway, so I'm groovin' along down the street after having gotten a
sandwich (vegetarian, of course - God loves animals and does not enjoy
seeing them harmed needlessly) and soft drink, and what do I spy but a
Family Radio minivan with two very friendly chaps setting up a sign
that sayeth, "Judgment Day May 21, 2011." *I stop and smile knowingly
at this, and one of them energetically hands me several "End Times"
brochures and a handful of spanking new full-color business cards with
glossy overcoat that also declare as much.


Well - What can I say? *What can I do? *I am dumbfounded and amused as
I, an ordinary shortwave radio enthusiast and occasional listener to
the Family Radio interval signal (as it covers up the desired signals
from Pakistan or Bhutan), am CHOSEN by Harold Camping's hand-selected
assistants to receive the Word and also to pass out the Word on fancy
little business cards! *It must be a sign, a revelation, a not-so-
subtle message from the great beyond that, for the next 12 days, it is
my predestiny to proseletyze profoundly on this preposterously proven
prostitution, er, I mean, postulation.


So there you have it, the story of my improbable conversion to TBOTET
(True Believer of the End Times) and chosen cherub of chicanery. *I
will have photos up of the business cards later so that you, too, can
become a convert. *(These cards will also be nice souvenirs of
interesting times when we reach May 22, 2011 without substantial
transsubstantiation ;-)


Somebody's humble servant (we won't say whose ;-),


Oh my, this just might disrupt the Preakness on May, 21.

Do horses get to take part in the Rapture?

dxAce
Michigan
USA- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Horses grow wings and fly to Heaven with the (good) jockeys on their
backs!

dxAce May 9th 11 09:56 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 


bpnjensen wrote:

On May 9, 1:47 pm, dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
OK, so you guys have heard of Family Radio, no doubt. Their studios
are just 10 miles from where I live and their main transmitter on HF
is in Okeedokee, er Okeechbee, Florida. Harold Camping, the founder
and genius behind Family Radio, has predicted with stunning accuracy
and without overt prophecy from the Almighty, that the rapture will
occur on May 21, 2011, although we cannot yet tell if it will be
before or after lunch.


Anyway, so I'm groovin' along down the street after having gotten a
sandwich (vegetarian, of course - God loves animals and does not enjoy
seeing them harmed needlessly) and soft drink, and what do I spy but a
Family Radio minivan with two very friendly chaps setting up a sign
that sayeth, "Judgment Day May 21, 2011." I stop and smile knowingly
at this, and one of them energetically hands me several "End Times"
brochures and a handful of spanking new full-color business cards with
glossy overcoat that also declare as much.


Well - What can I say? What can I do? I am dumbfounded and amused as
I, an ordinary shortwave radio enthusiast and occasional listener to
the Family Radio interval signal (as it covers up the desired signals
from Pakistan or Bhutan), am CHOSEN by Harold Camping's hand-selected
assistants to receive the Word and also to pass out the Word on fancy
little business cards! It must be a sign, a revelation, a not-so-
subtle message from the great beyond that, for the next 12 days, it is
my predestiny to proseletyze profoundly on this preposterously proven
prostitution, er, I mean, postulation.


So there you have it, the story of my improbable conversion to TBOTET
(True Believer of the End Times) and chosen cherub of chicanery. I
will have photos up of the business cards later so that you, too, can
become a convert. (These cards will also be nice souvenirs of
interesting times when we reach May 22, 2011 without substantial
transsubstantiation ;-)


Somebody's humble servant (we won't say whose ;-),


Oh my, this just might disrupt the Preakness on May, 21.

Do horses get to take part in the Rapture?

dxAce
Michigan
USA- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Horses grow wings and fly to Heaven with the (good) jockeys on their
backs!


I recall my grandmother telling me of an event in Indiana where some (or was
it just one?) charlatans scammed folks into selling their property and worldly
goods to finally await the rapture on top of some barns on a particular day...
needless to say, the folks waited patiently as the charlatan(s) made their
escape.



bpnjensen May 9th 11 10:02 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On May 9, 1:56*pm, dxAce wrote:

I recall my grandmother telling me of an event in Indiana where some (or was
it just one?) charlatans scammed folks into selling their property and worldly
goods to finally await the rapture on top of some barns on a particular day...
needless to say, the folks waited patiently as the charlatan(s) made their
escape.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey, I'm not joking - I am serious - so much so, that I make this
offer -

If any person (hopefully wealthy) gives me all his money and earthly
possessions, I promise to feed, clothe and shelter him/her in perfect
opulent comfort until the Rapture or Midnight, May 21, 2011, whichever
occurs first ;-)

John Smith[_7_] May 9th 11 10:05 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/9/2011 1:56 PM, dxAce wrote:

...
I recall my grandmother telling me of an event in Indiana where some (or was
it just one?) charlatans scammed folks into selling their property and worldly
goods to finally await the rapture on top of some barns on a particular day...
needless to say, the folks waited patiently as the charlatan(s) made their
escape.



I wonder if there is a correlation between the ones holding devouted
beliefs in the "anointed one" -- "barack obama AKA barry soetoro" the ,
"magic negro" made famous by rush limbaugh?

Looks like the same mental disorder -- and summed up by the old saying,
fools and their money are soon parted.

But then, welfare steps in and saves 'em, so you don't have to feel too
sorry for them ...

Regards,
JS

dxAce May 9th 11 10:05 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 


bpnjensen wrote:

On May 9, 1:56 pm, dxAce wrote:

I recall my grandmother telling me of an event in Indiana where some (or was
it just one?) charlatans scammed folks into selling their property and worldly
goods to finally await the rapture on top of some barns on a particular day...
needless to say, the folks waited patiently as the charlatan(s) made their
escape.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey, I'm not joking - I am serious - so much so, that I make this
offer -

If any person (hopefully wealthy) gives me all his money and earthly
possessions, I promise to feed, clothe and shelter him/her in perfect
opulent comfort until the Rapture or Midnight, May 21, 2011, whichever
occurs first ;-)


Does one get the use of a car with that offer?



dxAce May 9th 11 10:35 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 


dxAce wrote:

bpnjensen wrote:

On May 9, 1:56 pm, dxAce wrote:

I recall my grandmother telling me of an event in Indiana where some (or was
it just one?) charlatans scammed folks into selling their property and worldly
goods to finally await the rapture on top of some barns on a particular day...
needless to say, the folks waited patiently as the charlatan(s) made their
escape.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey, I'm not joking - I am serious - so much so, that I make this
offer -

If any person (hopefully wealthy) gives me all his money and earthly
possessions, I promise to feed, clothe and shelter him/her in perfect
opulent comfort until the Rapture or Midnight, May 21, 2011, whichever
occurs first ;-)


Does one get the use of a car with that offer?


I was thinking that if I drove fast enough I could beat the Rap(ture).



bpnjensen May 9th 11 11:20 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On May 9, 2:35*pm, dxAce wrote:
dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:


On May 9, 1:56 pm, dxAce wrote:


I recall my grandmother telling me of an event in Indiana where some (or was
it just one?) charlatans scammed folks into selling their property and worldly
goods to finally await the rapture on top of some barns on a particular day...
needless to say, the folks waited patiently as the charlatan(s) made their
escape.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hey, I'm not joking - I am serious - so much so, that I make this
offer -


If any person (hopefully wealthy) gives me all his money and earthly
possessions, I promise to feed, clothe and shelter him/her in perfect
opulent comfort until the Rapture or Midnight, May 21, 2011, whichever
occurs first ;-)


Does one get the use of a car with that offer?


I was thinking that if I drove fast enough I could beat the Rap(ture).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


LOL! It moves at the speed the Earth turns (so as to keep up with the
International Date Line), so if you can soup up that car with rocket
engines you just might make it...

Kevin Alfred Strom May 9th 11 11:39 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/9/2011 6:20 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
[...]

I was thinking that if I drove fast enough I could beat the Rap(ture).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


LOL! It moves at the speed the Earth turns (so as to keep up with the
International Date Line), so if you can soup up that car with rocket
engines you just might make it...




At the poles you could keep up with it on foot -- and still have
time for some lengthy SWL sessions and naps.

73,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

bpnjensen May 10th 11 12:26 AM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On May 9, 3:39*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
On 5/9/2011 6:20 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
[...]



I was thinking that if I drove fast enough I could beat the Rap(ture).- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


LOL! *It moves at the speed the Earth turns (so as to keep up with the
International Date Line), so if you can soup up that car with rocket
engines you just might make it...


At the poles you could keep up with it on foot -- and still have
time for some lengthy SWL sessions and naps.

73,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://nationalvanguard.org/http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Now there's a man who thinks geographically! :-)

[email protected] May 10th 11 12:56 AM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
Was it Good?
cuhulin


RHF May 10th 11 01:44 AM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On May 9, 3:20*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On May 9, 2:35*pm, dxAce wrote:









dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:


On May 9, 1:56 pm, dxAce wrote:


I recall my grandmother telling me of an event in Indiana where some (or was
it just one?) charlatans scammed folks into selling their property and worldly
goods to finally await the rapture on top of some barns on a particular day...
needless to say, the folks waited patiently as the charlatan(s) made their
escape.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hey, I'm not joking - I am serious - so much so, that I make this
offer -


If any person (hopefully wealthy) gives me all his money and earthly
possessions, I promise to feed, clothe and shelter him/her in perfect
opulent comfort until the Rapture or Midnight, May 21, 2011, whichever
occurs first ;-)


Does one get the use of a car with that offer?


I was thinking that if I drove fast enough I could beat the Rap(ture).- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


- LOL! *It moves at the speed the Earth turns
- (so as to keep up with the International Date Line),
- so if you can soup up that car with rocket engines
- you just might make it...

So the Good People in Guam [USA] Will Be "Raptured"
http://chariotsoffirewhirlwindsfromh...-rapture-1.jpg
before the Good People in Hawaii [USA] . . .
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/...ure%281%29.jpg

"The Rapture"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture

rap a rap a do ~ RHF

[email protected] May 10th 11 01:52 AM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
Is this the bus to Memphis?
///No, Memphis is flooded out.Take the A-Train///
Will that Train take us to the Rapture?
///Who knows? We are all waiting for the Rapture///
cuhulin


dxAce May 10th 11 06:22 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 


"D. Peter Maus" wrote:

On 5/10/11 11:07 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/9/2011 4:30 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
Harold Camping, the founder and genius behind Family Radio, has
predicted with stunning accuracy and without overt prophecy from the
Almighty, that the rapture will occur on May 21, 2011, although we
cannot yet tell if it will be before or after lunch.


It will be soooo interesting to see how Kooktard Kamping will back
peddle / remove the egg from his face when the world is still here
on May 22.


Has anyone but me noticed the irony of a Christian radio network,
broadcasting to a Christian radio audience the countdown to the End
of Days when neither will be there to either broadcast, nor receive
the broadcast?


I hope to be listening on May 22, come Hell or high water in the Mississippi!



D Peter Maus[_2_] May 10th 11 06:37 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/10/11 12:22 , dxAce wrote:


"D. Peter Maus" wrote:

On 5/10/11 11:07 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/9/2011 4:30 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
Harold Camping, the founder and genius behind Family Radio, has
predicted with stunning accuracy and without overt prophecy from the
Almighty, that the rapture will occur on May 21, 2011, although we
cannot yet tell if it will be before or after lunch.

It will be soooo interesting to see how Kooktard Kamping will back
peddle / remove the egg from his face when the world is still here
on May 22.


Has anyone but me noticed the irony of a Christian radio network,
broadcasting to a Christian radio audience the countdown to the End
of Days when neither will be there to either broadcast, nor receive
the broadcast?


I hope to be listening on May 22, come Hell or high water in the Mississippi!



LOL!...yeah something tells me that the bride and I will be listening
as well.





Joe from Kokomo[_2_] May 10th 11 08:18 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/10/2011 12:53 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Has anyone but me noticed the irony of...


Irony? You want to talk irony?

* the kooktards that believe Obama's birth certificate is a fraud...thus
implying they know more than the Wall Street Journal's investigative
reporters.

* the kooktards that think bin Laden is still alive...even though
Al-Qaeda says he's dead.

And here's a couple that *really* peg the ol' Irony Meter:

* Sarah Palin telling Obama to release the pictures and "finish the
job". "Finish the job" coming from the Palin that QUIT her office
mid-term? She has the nerve to tell others to "Finish the job"?

* the kooktards that want to give Bush credit for killing bin Laden.
Yes, the very same George W. Bush that *DISBANDED* the CIA's bin Laden
task force in '04 or '05.

Yup, plenty of irony to go around! LOL!


D. Peter Maus[_2_] May 10th 11 08:23 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/10/11 14:18 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/10/2011 12:53 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Has anyone but me noticed the irony of...


Irony? You want to talk irony?

* the kooktards



LOL! Wow.

You should be on Name That Tune.



[email protected] May 10th 11 08:49 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
Mississippi River at Memphis has crested, or so they say.It will be
quite a while before they see any difference, as far as the water level
going down.Old Muddy, doing it's thang.
Snakes and Aligators too.
cuhulin


bpnjensen May 10th 11 09:10 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On May 10, 9:54*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 5/10/11 11:10 , bpnjensen wrote:

On May 10, 9:07 am, Joe from *wrote:
On 5/9/2011 4:30 PM, bpnjensen wrote:


Harold Camping, the founder and genius behind Family Radio, has
predicted with stunning accuracy and without overt prophecy from the
Almighty, that the rapture will occur on May 21, 2011, although we
cannot yet tell if it will be before or after lunch.


It will be soooo interesting to see how Kooktard Kamping will back
peddle / remove the egg from his face when the world is still here on
May 22.


He'll either claim that his calcs were wrong or that God granted a
reprieve. *Either way, he's right and it's not your place to question
God's authority ;-)


* *He's apparently not read the passage in the Bible that states
that no man may know the day or the time of the Rapture.


Heh! Actually, in Camping's pamphlets he states this very passage
repeatedly just before going on to calculate the day based numerous
*subtle* hints provided by God.

John Smith[_7_] May 10th 11 09:14 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/10/2011 12:18 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:

...
Irony? You want to talk irony?
...


When I was very young, we lived on a large acreage in the country. The
well water tasted very "ironey." My father had a large SS tank on a
trailer he would bring town water to the house in, for drinking and cooking.

You only think you are talking IRONEY!

Regards,
JS

Steve May 10th 11 09:17 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On May 9, 4:30*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
OK, so you guys have heard of Family Radio, no doubt. *Their studios
are just 10 miles from where I live and their main transmitter on HF
is in Okeedokee, er Okeechbee, Florida. *Harold Camping, the founder
and genius behind Family Radio, has predicted with stunning accuracy
and without overt prophecy from the Almighty, that the rapture will
occur on May 21, 2011, although we cannot yet tell if it will be
before or after lunch.

Anyway, so I'm groovin' along down the street after having gotten a
sandwich (vegetarian, of course - God loves animals and does not enjoy
seeing them harmed needlessly) and soft drink, and what do I spy but a
Family Radio minivan with two very friendly chaps setting up a sign
that sayeth, "Judgment Day May 21, 2011." *I stop and smile knowingly
at this, and one of them energetically hands me several "End Times"
brochures and a handful of spanking new full-color business cards with
glossy overcoat that also declare as much.

Well - What can I say? *What can I do? *I am dumbfounded and amused as
I, an ordinary shortwave radio enthusiast and occasional listener to
the Family Radio interval signal (as it covers up the desired signals
from Pakistan or Bhutan), am CHOSEN by Harold Camping's hand-selected
assistants to receive the Word and also to pass out the Word on fancy
little business cards! *It must be a sign, a revelation, a not-so-
subtle message from the great beyond that, for the next 12 days, it is
my predestiny to proseletyze profoundly on this preposterously proven
prostitution, er, I mean, postulation.

So there you have it, the story of my improbable conversion to TBOTET
(True Believer of the End Times) and chosen cherub of chicanery. *I
will have photos up of the business cards later so that you, too, can
become a convert. *(These cards will also be nice souvenirs of
interesting times when we reach May 22, 2011 without substantial
transsubstantiation ;-)

Somebody's humble servant (we won't say whose ;-),
Bruce Jensen (CA - USA)


The world doesn't even officially BEGIN until the summer of 2015. So,
I don't think we have anything to worry about this coming May.

D. Peter Maus[_2_] May 10th 11 09:20 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/10/11 15:10 , bpnjensen wrote:
On May 10, 9:54 am, "D. Peter wrote:
On 5/10/11 11:10 , bpnjensen wrote:

On May 10, 9:07 am, Joe from wrote:
On 5/9/2011 4:30 PM, bpnjensen wrote:


Harold Camping, the founder and genius behind Family Radio, has
predicted with stunning accuracy and without overt prophecy from the
Almighty, that the rapture will occur on May 21, 2011, although we
cannot yet tell if it will be before or after lunch.


It will be soooo interesting to see how Kooktard Kamping will back
peddle / remove the egg from his face when the world is still here on
May 22.


He'll either claim that his calcs were wrong or that God granted a
reprieve. Either way, he's right and it's not your place to question
God's authority ;-)


He's apparently not read the passage in the Bible that states
that no man may know the day or the time of the Rapture.


Heh! Actually, in Camping's pamphlets he states this very passage
repeatedly just before going on to calculate the day based numerous
*subtle* hints provided by God.




Of course. Why am I not surprised.



bpnjensen May 10th 11 10:19 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On May 10, 1:17*pm, Steve wrote:
On May 9, 4:30*pm, bpnjensen wrote:





OK, so you guys have heard of Family Radio, no doubt. *Their studios
are just 10 miles from where I live and their main transmitter on HF
is in Okeedokee, er Okeechbee, Florida. *Harold Camping, the founder
and genius behind Family Radio, has predicted with stunning accuracy
and without overt prophecy from the Almighty, that the rapture will
occur on May 21, 2011, although we cannot yet tell if it will be
before or after lunch.


Anyway, so I'm groovin' along down the street after having gotten a
sandwich (vegetarian, of course - God loves animals and does not enjoy
seeing them harmed needlessly) and soft drink, and what do I spy but a
Family Radio minivan with two very friendly chaps setting up a sign
that sayeth, "Judgment Day May 21, 2011." *I stop and smile knowingly
at this, and one of them energetically hands me several "End Times"
brochures and a handful of spanking new full-color business cards with
glossy overcoat that also declare as much.


Well - What can I say? *What can I do? *I am dumbfounded and amused as
I, an ordinary shortwave radio enthusiast and occasional listener to
the Family Radio interval signal (as it covers up the desired signals
from Pakistan or Bhutan), am CHOSEN by Harold Camping's hand-selected
assistants to receive the Word and also to pass out the Word on fancy
little business cards! *It must be a sign, a revelation, a not-so-
subtle message from the great beyond that, for the next 12 days, it is
my predestiny to proseletyze profoundly on this preposterously proven
prostitution, er, I mean, postulation.


So there you have it, the story of my improbable conversion to TBOTET
(True Believer of the End Times) and chosen cherub of chicanery. *I
will have photos up of the business cards later so that you, too, can
become a convert. *(These cards will also be nice souvenirs of
interesting times when we reach May 22, 2011 without substantial
transsubstantiation ;-)


Somebody's humble servant (we won't say whose ;-),
Bruce Jensen (CA - USA)


The world doesn't even officially BEGIN until the summer of 2015. So,
I don't think we have anything to worry about this coming May.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Killjoy! ;-)

John Smith[_7_] May 11th 11 06:38 AM

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On 5/10/2011 8:44 PM, RHF wrote:

...

-ps- so... don't get 'left-behind' !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind_%28series%29
.
.


I'd like to grab the gnarled and hoary old "buggard" (a cross between a
bug and a *******) by his bridge-like-troll-ear and RAP-ture him along
side the head with a ball-peen hammer!

And, I would only go gentle on him, like that, because of his age and
mental limitations!

Regards,
JS

RHF May 11th 11 10:35 AM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On May 10, 10:38*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 5/10/2011 8:44 PM, RHF wrote:

* ...

-ps- so... don't get 'left-behind' !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind_%28series%29
* .
* .


- I'd like to grab the gnarled and hoary old "buggard" (a cross
between a
- bug and a *******) by his bridge-like-troll-ear and RAP-ture him
along
- side the head with a ball-peen hammer!
-
- And, I would only go gentle on him, like that, because of his age
and
- mental limitations!
-
- Regards,
- JS

"JS" - Clearly You Have Made Dinner Reservations
for The-Day-After ...as... There is No Doubt that
you will be One of the "Left-Behind" . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind_%28series%29

John Smith[_7_] May 11th 11 06:24 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/11/2011 2:35 AM, RHF wrote:

...
"JS" - Clearly You Have Made Dinner Reservations
for The-Day-After ...as... There is No Doubt that
you will be One of the "Left-Behind" . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind_%28series%29
.
.


Worse than that, if property prices hadn't dropped to the point where
you can purchase a home with the change in your pocket, I'd take out a
forty-year mortgage, JUST THE DAY BEFORE!

:-) :-) :-)

All kidding, I can take a look at the complexities and problems with
having life "spontaneously generate" and, instead of a leap of faith
into such, I choose to leap in the direction of a mind having made a
creation(s) and left evidence in its' existence ... :-)

Regards,
JS

John Smith[_7_] May 11th 11 06:47 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/11/2011 2:35 AM, RHF wrote:

...

- I'd like to grab the gnarled and hoary old "buggard" (a cross
between a
- bug and a *******) by his bridge-like-troll-ear and RAP-ture him
along
- side the head with a ball-peen hammer!
-
- And, I would only go gentle on him, like that, because of his age
and
- mental limitations!
-
- Regards,
- JS

"JS" - Clearly You Have Made Dinner Reservations
for The-Day-After ...as... There is No Doubt that
you will be One of the "Left-Behind" . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind_%28series%29
.
.


Let me put my statement in perspective:

Matthew 24:36, King James Bible:

"But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of
heaven, but my Father only."

Now, he sets his knowledge above his Gods'.

I mean ... that is beyond rational description ... unless his bible is
one I am not familiar with.

Regards,
JS

[email protected] May 12th 11 06:30 AM

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On May 11, 11:59*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 5/11/2011 8:47 PM, wrote:





*...
Let me put my statement in perspective:


Matthew 24:36, King James Bible:


"But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of
heaven, but my Father only."


Now, he sets his knowledge above his Gods'.


I mean ... that is beyond rational description ... unless his bible is
one I am not familiar with.


Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


KJV Bible is not complete . Many sections/parts of the previous
text(s) weren't included . And that's the way it was done .


Obfuscation though suggestive suspicion?:

New International Version (©1984)
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor
the Son, but only the Father.

New Living Translation (©2007)
"However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen,
not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

English Standard Version (©2001)
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of
heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,
nor the Son, but the Father alone.

International Standard Version (©2008)
"No one knows when that day or hour will come-not the angels in heaven,
nor the Son, but only the Father,

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"No one knows when that day or hour will come. Even the angels in heaven
and the Son don't know. Only the Father knows.

King James Bible
But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven,
but my Father only.

American King James Version
But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but
my Father only.

American Standard Version
But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven,
neither the Son, but the Father only.

Bible in Basic English
But of that day and hour no one has knowledge, not even the angels in
heaven, or the Son, but the Father only.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but
the Father alone.

Darby Bible Translation
But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of the
heavens, but my Father alone.

English Revised Version
But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven,
neither the Son, but the Father only.

Webster's Bible Translation
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven,
but my Father only.

Weymouth New Testament
"But as to that day and the exact time no one knows--not even the angels
of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

World English Bible
But no one knows of that day and hour, not even the angels of heaven,
but my Father only.

Young's Literal Translation
'And concerning that day and the hour no one hath known -- not even the
messengers of the heavens -- except my Father only;

... * and * ...

Mark 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Acts 1:7 He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates
the Father has set by his own authority.

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So which is the original ? ? ?

John Smith[_7_] May 12th 11 06:43 AM

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On 5/11/2011 10:30 PM, wrote:
On May 11, 11:59 pm, John wrote:
On 5/11/2011 8:47 PM, wrote:





...
Let me put my statement in perspective:


Matthew 24:36, King James Bible:


"But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of
heaven, but my Father only."


Now, he sets his knowledge above his Gods'.


I mean ... that is beyond rational description ... unless his bible is
one I am not familiar with.


Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


KJV Bible is not complete . Many sections/parts of the previous
text(s) weren't included . And that's the way it was done .


Obfuscation though suggestive suspicion?:

New International Version (©1984)
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor
the Son, but only the Father.

New Living Translation (©2007)
"However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen,
not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

English Standard Version (©2001)
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of
heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,
nor the Son, but the Father alone.

International Standard Version (©2008)
"No one knows when that day or hour will come-not the angels in heaven,
nor the Son, but only the Father,

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"No one knows when that day or hour will come. Even the angels in heaven
and the Son don't know. Only the Father knows.

King James Bible
But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven,
but my Father only.

American King James Version
But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but
my Father only.

American Standard Version
But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven,
neither the Son, but the Father only.

Bible in Basic English
But of that day and hour no one has knowledge, not even the angels in
heaven, or the Son, but the Father only.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but
the Father alone.

Darby Bible Translation
But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of the
heavens, but my Father alone.

English Revised Version
But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven,
neither the Son, but the Father only.

Webster's Bible Translation
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven,
but my Father only.

Weymouth New Testament
"But as to that day and the exact time no one knows--not even the angels
of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

World English Bible
But no one knows of that day and hour, not even the angels of heaven,
but my Father only.

Young's Literal Translation
'And concerning that day and the hour no one hath known -- not even the
messengers of the heavens -- except my Father only;

... and ...

Mark 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Acts 1:7 He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates
the Father has set by his own authority.

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So which is the original ? ? ?


What is the difference you see between them?

Regards,
JS


Kevin Alfred Strom May 12th 11 06:31 PM

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On 5/12/2011 12:08 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/12/2011 3:44 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

...
Since it's all made up, in a sense there is no original -- except
in the
imaginations of the authors.

It's like asking "What did Alice _really_ say to the Red Queen?"


With every good wish,


Kevin, WB4AIO.


I would say you make the exact mistake which the narrow minded make
on any given subject.

You think yourself to know, things which you cannot possibly know,
yet, with the present state of knowledge.

Any race which would visit us and suggest they where "GODS", and
were but a few thousand years ahead of us, 5,000 - 10,000, would be
entirely able to convince us they were "GODS" -- their technology
would simply allow them to do all the things which "GODS" do.

I see the possibility that where it would be possible for a race to
be a billion years ahead of us, give or take.

And, the inception, the creation, the very first living organism,
even if single celled, requires so many factors, and so many
extremely complex design considerations, to have all come together
all within a very time critical period, and in such an exactly
defined technical arrangement and order, as too virtually, at least
in our present state of understanding, be strongly suggestive that
some form of higher intelligence was involved in our design and
creation.

And, if I am correct in my analysis, Einstein was an agnostic -- he
simply knew he didn't know enough, yet ...

Regards,
JS




Well, even if you're right about all that -- and you may be -- that
doesn't change the fact that the small fraction of the thousands of
crazy Middle Eastern miracle books that the dominant sect chose as
"canonical" are about as likely to be uniquely inspired by God as
are the collected works of the Amazing Kreskin.


With my best regards,


Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

John Smith[_7_] May 12th 11 11:49 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/12/2011 10:31 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
On 5/12/2011 12:08 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/12/2011 3:44 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

...
Since it's all made up, in a sense there is no original -- except
in the
imaginations of the authors.

It's like asking "What did Alice _really_ say to the Red Queen?"


With every good wish,


Kevin, WB4AIO.


I would say you make the exact mistake which the narrow minded make
on any given subject.

You think yourself to know, things which you cannot possibly know,
yet, with the present state of knowledge.

Any race which would visit us and suggest they where "GODS", and
were but a few thousand years ahead of us, 5,000 - 10,000, would be
entirely able to convince us they were "GODS" -- their technology
would simply allow them to do all the things which "GODS" do.

I see the possibility that where it would be possible for a race to
be a billion years ahead of us, give or take.

And, the inception, the creation, the very first living organism,
even if single celled, requires so many factors, and so many
extremely complex design considerations, to have all come together
all within a very time critical period, and in such an exactly
defined technical arrangement and order, as too virtually, at least
in our present state of understanding, be strongly suggestive that
some form of higher intelligence was involved in our design and
creation.

And, if I am correct in my analysis, Einstein was an agnostic -- he
simply knew he didn't know enough, yet ...

Regards,
JS




Well, even if you're right about all that -- and you may be -- that
doesn't change the fact that the small fraction of the thousands of
crazy Middle Eastern miracle books that the dominant sect chose as
"canonical" are about as likely to be uniquely inspired by God as are
the collected works of the Amazing Kreskin.


With my best regards,


Kevin Alfred Strom.


There is no proof that the bible was "divinely inspired", at the present
time, I can't imagine where such proof could be had -- for that a leap
of faith is required ... one I have great difficulty in making, though I
keep an open mind, and looking ...

I am just able to manage, a mind greater than our own is a likely
candidate for our existence.

Regards,
JS


RHF May 12th 11 11:51 PM

The Great "Rapture" Smack-Down a Shortwave Radio Event !
 
On May 9, 1:30*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
OK, so you guys have heard of Family Radio, no doubt. *Their studios
are just 10 miles from where I live and their main transmitter on HF
is in Okeedokee, er Okeechbee, Florida. *Harold Camping, the founder
and genius behind Family Radio, has predicted with stunning accuracy
and without overt prophecy from the Almighty, that the rapture will
occur on May 21, 2011, although we cannot yet tell if it will be
before or after lunch.

Anyway, so I'm groovin' along down the street after having gotten a
sandwich (vegetarian, of course - God loves animals and does not enjoy
seeing them harmed needlessly) and soft drink, and what do I spy but a
Family Radio minivan with two very friendly chaps setting up a sign
that sayeth, "Judgment Day May 21, 2011." *I stop and smile knowingly
at this, and one of them energetically hands me several "End Times"
brochures and a handful of spanking new full-color business cards with
glossy overcoat that also declare as much.

Well - What can I say? *What can I do? *I am dumbfounded and amused as
I, an ordinary shortwave radio enthusiast and occasional listener to
the Family Radio interval signal (as it covers up the desired signals
from Pakistan or Bhutan), am CHOSEN by Harold Camping's hand-selected
assistants to receive the Word and also to pass out the Word on fancy
little business cards! *It must be a sign, a revelation, a not-so-
subtle message from the great beyond that, for the next 12 days, it is
my predestiny to proseletyze profoundly on this preposterously proven
prostitution, er, I mean, postulation.

So there you have it, the story of my improbable conversion to TBOTET
(True Believer of the End Times) and chosen cherub of chicanery. *I
will have photos up of the business cards later so that you, too, can
become a convert. *(These cards will also be nice souvenirs of
interesting times when we reach May 22, 2011 without substantial
transsubstantiation ;-)

Somebody's humble servant (we won't say whose ;-),
Bruce Jensen (CA - USA)


Brother Star was a Preaching -a'gin- Brother Camping
last night on the Shortwave Radio on 5890 kHz WWCR
saying ONLY a Prophet-of-God could predict the Last
Day; and that Brother Camping was not a prophet.

The Overcomer Ministry with Brother Stair [PoG]
http://www.overcomerministry.org/

John Smith[_7_] May 12th 11 11:54 PM

The Great "Rapture" Smack-Down a Shortwave Radio Event !
 
On 5/12/2011 3:51 PM, RHF wrote:
On May 9, 1:30 pm, wrote:
OK, so you guys have heard of Family Radio, no doubt. Their studios
are just 10 miles from where I live and their main transmitter on HF
is in Okeedokee, er Okeechbee, Florida. Harold Camping, the founder
and genius behind Family Radio, has predicted with stunning accuracy
and without overt prophecy from the Almighty, that the rapture will
occur on May 21, 2011, although we cannot yet tell if it will be
before or after lunch.

Anyway, so I'm groovin' along down the street after having gotten a
sandwich (vegetarian, of course - God loves animals and does not enjoy
seeing them harmed needlessly) and soft drink, and what do I spy but a
Family Radio minivan with two very friendly chaps setting up a sign
that sayeth, "Judgment Day May 21, 2011." I stop and smile knowingly
at this, and one of them energetically hands me several "End Times"
brochures and a handful of spanking new full-color business cards with
glossy overcoat that also declare as much.

Well - What can I say? What can I do? I am dumbfounded and amused as
I, an ordinary shortwave radio enthusiast and occasional listener to
the Family Radio interval signal (as it covers up the desired signals
from Pakistan or Bhutan), am CHOSEN by Harold Camping's hand-selected
assistants to receive the Word and also to pass out the Word on fancy
little business cards! It must be a sign, a revelation, a not-so-
subtle message from the great beyond that, for the next 12 days, it is
my predestiny to proseletyze profoundly on this preposterously proven
prostitution, er, I mean, postulation.

So there you have it, the story of my improbable conversion to TBOTET
(True Believer of the End Times) and chosen cherub of chicanery. I
will have photos up of the business cards later so that you, too, can
become a convert. (These cards will also be nice souvenirs of
interesting times when we reach May 22, 2011 without substantial
transsubstantiation ;-)

Somebody's humble servant (we won't say whose ;-),
Bruce Jensen (CA - USA)


Brother Star was a Preaching -a'gin- Brother Camping
last night on the Shortwave Radio on 5890 kHz WWCR
saying ONLY a Prophet-of-God could predict the Last
Day; and that Brother Camping was not a prophet.

The Overcomer Ministry with Brother Stair [PoG]
http://www.overcomerministry.org/
.
WWCR Shortwave Program Schedule
http://www.wwcr.com/program-guides/W...gram_Guide.pdf
Transmitter # 4 for the Overcomer Ministry with
Brother Stair [PoG] 5890& 9890 kHz
.
WYFR : Family Radio World Wide with Brother Camping
http://www.familyradio.com/index2.html
* The Judgement Day 21 Mayo 2011 {Commercial}
http://www.familyradio.com/may21/
.
yes - i heard hear it on the short-wavy ray-di-oh ~ RHF
Twain Harte, CA -USA- : http://tinyurl.com/2fn6xog
Grundig Satellit 800-M Receiver
.
Shortwave Listener QSL Reports : http://tinyurl.com/2d9qlq
http://www.google.com/group/shortwav...er-qsl-reports
.
- = 2FN6XOG = -& - = 2D9QLQ = -
.
.


I would think that those who claim the bible is correct would correctly
stay to its' claims ... no MAN is to know, unless the prophet is some
angel or alien, they seem to only mock themselves!

Regards,
JS


Day Brown[_3_] May 13th 11 01:45 AM

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On 05/12/2011 05:49 PM, John Smith wrote:
There is no proof that the bible was "divinely inspired", at the present
time, I can't imagine where such proof could be had -- for that a leap
of faith is required ... one I have great difficulty in making, though I
keep an open mind, and looking ...

I am just able to manage, a mind greater than our own is a likely
candidate for our existence.

The first thing the Levantine god said was "Let there be light".
The first thing Aryan Gaia said was :"Oooops!"

The Levantine god is dead because like a stone, he does not change.
Gaia is alive because like all live, She is evolving. She does not
really know what She had in mind at the start when She emerged out of
primordial Chaos, and has been winging it ever since.

That we are here is an accident, but we've been making do and growing
up, and now its time to put away childish visions of a father god.

John Smith[_7_] May 13th 11 02:06 AM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/12/2011 5:45 PM, Day Brown wrote:

...

The first thing the Levantine god said was "Let there be light".
The first thing Aryan Gaia said was :"Oooops!"

The Levantine god is dead because like a stone, he does not change.
Gaia is alive because like all live, She is evolving. She does not
really know what She had in mind at the start when She emerged out of
primordial Chaos, and has been winging it ever since.

That we are here is an accident, but we've been making do and growing
up, and now its time to put away childish visions of a father god.


Whatever intelligence that/would has/have "emerged out of primordial
chaos" is God, DUH. Unless God has a mate, which he, she, or anyone
else, for that matter, has not mentioned, any application of he/she
would be meaningless, at least to myself.

Accidents only happen when humans are involved ... undoubtedly, the
universe is unfolding just as it should in a way of "proper and good"
which is above our judgment, intervention and manipulation.

I don't believe "evolution", in the grand scheme of things, is a stand
alone item, rather just a designed function of the grand design.

Whenever you see a pile of rocks, it is impossible to determine if
nature or man has piled those rocks.

However, when you see a pile of rocks which look like, and serves all
the functions of a castle, you can damn well be certain it is man made
.... so does God leave such signatures ...

Regards,
JS

Kevin Alfred Strom May 13th 11 01:38 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 
On 5/12/2011 6:49 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/12/2011 10:31 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
On 5/12/2011 12:08 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/12/2011 3:44 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

...
Since it's all made up, in a sense there is no original -- except
in the
imaginations of the authors.

It's like asking "What did Alice _really_ say to the Red Queen?"


With every good wish,


Kevin, WB4AIO.

I would say you make the exact mistake which the narrow minded make
on any given subject.

You think yourself to know, things which you cannot possibly know,
yet, with the present state of knowledge.

Any race which would visit us and suggest they where "GODS", and
were but a few thousand years ahead of us, 5,000 - 10,000, would be
entirely able to convince us they were "GODS" -- their technology
would simply allow them to do all the things which "GODS" do.

I see the possibility that where it would be possible for a race to
be a billion years ahead of us, give or take.

And, the inception, the creation, the very first living organism,
even if single celled, requires so many factors, and so many
extremely complex design considerations, to have all come together
all within a very time critical period, and in such an exactly
defined technical arrangement and order, as too virtually, at least
in our present state of understanding, be strongly suggestive that
some form of higher intelligence was involved in our design and
creation.

And, if I am correct in my analysis, Einstein was an agnostic -- he
simply knew he didn't know enough, yet ...

Regards,
JS




Well, even if you're right about all that -- and you may be -- that
doesn't change the fact that the small fraction of the thousands of
crazy Middle Eastern miracle books that the dominant sect chose as
"canonical" are about as likely to be uniquely inspired by God as are
the collected works of the Amazing Kreskin.


With my best regards,


Kevin Alfred Strom.


There is no proof that the bible was "divinely inspired", at the
present time, I can't imagine where such proof could be had -- for
that a leap of faith is required ... one I have great difficulty in
making, though I keep an open mind, and looking ...

I am just able to manage, a mind greater than our own is a likely
candidate for our existence.

Regards,
JS




Yes. I don't claim to know, but I think that there is a strong
possibility that that mind may only exist in the part of timespace
that we call the future.

And I also think there is a distinct possibility that events in the
future can determine events in the past -- that timespace folds back
upon itself, like a variation of Nietzsche's eternal recurrence, or,
as our ancestors believed, time is cyclical.


With my very best,


Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

dxAce May 13th 11 01:43 PM

The Greatest Radio Event of my life - Rapture on May 21, 2011!
 


Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

On 5/12/2011 6:49 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/12/2011 10:31 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
On 5/12/2011 12:08 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/12/2011 3:44 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

...
Since it's all made up, in a sense there is no original -- except
in the
imaginations of the authors.

It's like asking "What did Alice _really_ say to the Red Queen?"


With every good wish,


Kevin, WB4AIO.

I would say you make the exact mistake which the narrow minded make
on any given subject.

You think yourself to know, things which you cannot possibly know,
yet, with the present state of knowledge.

Any race which would visit us and suggest they where "GODS", and
were but a few thousand years ahead of us, 5,000 - 10,000, would be
entirely able to convince us they were "GODS" -- their technology
would simply allow them to do all the things which "GODS" do.

I see the possibility that where it would be possible for a race to
be a billion years ahead of us, give or take.

And, the inception, the creation, the very first living organism,
even if single celled, requires so many factors, and so many
extremely complex design considerations, to have all come together
all within a very time critical period, and in such an exactly
defined technical arrangement and order, as too virtually, at least
in our present state of understanding, be strongly suggestive that
some form of higher intelligence was involved in our design and
creation.

And, if I am correct in my analysis, Einstein was an agnostic -- he
simply knew he didn't know enough, yet ...

Regards,
JS



Well, even if you're right about all that -- and you may be -- that
doesn't change the fact that the small fraction of the thousands of
crazy Middle Eastern miracle books that the dominant sect chose as
"canonical" are about as likely to be uniquely inspired by God as are
the collected works of the Amazing Kreskin.


With my best regards,


Kevin Alfred Strom.


There is no proof that the bible was "divinely inspired", at the
present time, I can't imagine where such proof could be had -- for
that a leap of faith is required ... one I have great difficulty in
making, though I keep an open mind, and looking ...

I am just able to manage, a mind greater than our own is a likely
candidate for our existence.

Regards,
JS


Yes. I don't claim to know, but I think that there is a strong
possibility that that mind may only exist in the part of timespace
that we call the future.

And I also think there is a distinct possibility that events in the
future can determine events in the past -- that timespace folds back
upon itself, like a variation of Nietzsche's eternal recurrence, or,
as our ancestors believed, time is cyclical.


What go's around comes around?



Kevin Alfred Strom May 13th 11 01:58 PM

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On 5/13/2011 8:43 AM, dxAce wrote:


Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

On 5/12/2011 6:49 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/12/2011 10:31 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
On 5/12/2011 12:08 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/12/2011 3:44 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

...
Since it's all made up, in a sense there is no original -- except
in the
imaginations of the authors.

It's like asking "What did Alice _really_ say to the Red Queen?"


With every good wish,


Kevin, WB4AIO.

I would say you make the exact mistake which the narrow minded make
on any given subject.

You think yourself to know, things which you cannot possibly know,
yet, with the present state of knowledge.

Any race which would visit us and suggest they where "GODS", and
were but a few thousand years ahead of us, 5,000 - 10,000, would be
entirely able to convince us they were "GODS" -- their technology
would simply allow them to do all the things which "GODS" do.

I see the possibility that where it would be possible for a race to
be a billion years ahead of us, give or take.

And, the inception, the creation, the very first living organism,
even if single celled, requires so many factors, and so many
extremely complex design considerations, to have all come together
all within a very time critical period, and in such an exactly
defined technical arrangement and order, as too virtually, at least
in our present state of understanding, be strongly suggestive that
some form of higher intelligence was involved in our design and
creation.

And, if I am correct in my analysis, Einstein was an agnostic -- he
simply knew he didn't know enough, yet ...

Regards,
JS



Well, even if you're right about all that -- and you may be -- that
doesn't change the fact that the small fraction of the thousands of
crazy Middle Eastern miracle books that the dominant sect chose as
"canonical" are about as likely to be uniquely inspired by God as are
the collected works of the Amazing Kreskin.


With my best regards,


Kevin Alfred Strom.

There is no proof that the bible was "divinely inspired", at the
present time, I can't imagine where such proof could be had -- for
that a leap of faith is required ... one I have great difficulty in
making, though I keep an open mind, and looking ...

I am just able to manage, a mind greater than our own is a likely
candidate for our existence.

Regards,
JS


Yes. I don't claim to know, but I think that there is a strong
possibility that that mind may only exist in the part of timespace
that we call the future.

And I also think there is a distinct possibility that events in the
future can determine events in the past -- that timespace folds back
upon itself, like a variation of Nietzsche's eternal recurrence, or,
as our ancestors believed, time is cyclical.


What go's around comes around?




That's one way of putting it!

Kevin.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Day Brown[_3_] May 13th 11 07:48 PM

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On 05/12/2011 08:06 PM, John Smith wrote:
Whatever intelligence that/would has/have "emerged out of primordial
chaos" is God, DUH. Unless God has a mate, which he, she, or anyone
else, for that matter, has not mentioned, any application of he/she
would be meaningless, at least to myself.

The original Aryan cosmology had it that Chaos was primordial. But
eventually, inevitably, what we call a 'self replicating sequence', Gaia
emerged. But because replication is not perfect, She evolved to the
point of reaching sentience and then differentiating Herself from Chaos
and Maya (the physical universe).

Life forms that give birth without male fertilization are parthenogenic
mothers. Which is why Gaia is female. And why Athena was in the Parthenon.

Accidents only happen when humans are involved ... undoubtedly, the
universe is unfolding just as it should in a way of "proper and good"
which is above our judgment, intervention and manipulation.

That it is, is one thing, that it should, is another. I dunno.

I don't believe "evolution", in the grand scheme of things, is a stand
alone item, rather just a designed function of the grand design.


Whenever you see a pile of rocks, it is impossible to determine if
nature or man has piled those rocks.


However, when you see a pile of rocks which look like, and serves all
the functions of a castle, you can damn well be certain it is man made
... so does God leave such signatures ...

What passes for reality is made up of Fractal algorithms, a combination of
the laws of Mother Nature and random chaotic input.



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