On 5/24/2011 7:47 AM, gfn wrote:

...

I am saying the obvious, 1% of the people making a huge percentage of
all the financial wealth and frequently pay no or low taxes contribute
little ...

We do not need innuendo, opinions or BS. We need exact figures on their
contributions to the whole of all taxes paid. I think that 1% is not
paying their fair share as determined by the amount of money they make.
I think the reason that the figure are so hidden on all this data is
obvious -- they know they are not paying their fair share, and that is
reasons for websites such as this one:

http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

These are the rich crooks attempting to manipulate public opinion ...
and yes, the financial wealth needs spread out better than the 20/80
percent cut which is happening!

Regards,
JS

On May 24, 11:11*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/24/2011 7:47 AM, gfn wrote:

* ...

I am saying the obvious, 1% of the people making a huge percentage of
all the financial wealth and frequently pay no or low taxes contribute
little ...


What part of the top 1% pay 38% of the federal income tax bill isn't
registering with you? Your statement that they pay little or
contribute little is simply not true. The IRS numbers bear that out.
Put your wealth envy aside and try to be just a little objective about
this.

We do not need innuendo, opinions or BS. *We need exact figures on their
contributions to the whole of all taxes paid. *I think that 1% is not
paying their fair share as determined by the amount of money they make. *

Fine, you just backed up my claim in my last post on re-framing the
question as to who pays the bill as opposed to who pays what of their
income.

I think the reason that the figure are so hidden on all this data is
obvious -- they know they are not paying their fair share, and that is
reasons for websites such as this one:


Again, the numbers don't lie. I can't fathom how someone can say that
where 1% foots 38% of the bill that they aren't paying their fair
share. I'm not going to change your mind on that point so there
really is no use in trying to convince you otherwise other than to say
you're just flat out wrong.

http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

These are the rich crooks attempting to manipulate public opinion ...
and yes, the financial wealth needs spread out better than the 20/80
percent cut which is happening!


Crooks? Your wealth envy has clouded your judgment and objectivity.

Regards,
JS

On 5/24/2011 8:20 AM, gfn wrote:

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Where are some credible souces to back up any of that innuendo you keep
attempting to push?

Truth is, sure looks like the wealthiest 1% are not paying 42% of all of
governments costs, and sure looks like the top 19% are not paying half
of governments costs, until that happens they are NOT paying their fair
share ... a flat tax can fix that ...


Regards,
JS

On May 24, 11:24*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/24/2011 8:20 AM, gfn wrote:

* ...

Where are some credible souces to back up any of that innuendo you keep
attempting to push?

Truth is, sure looks like the wealthiest 1% are not paying 42% of all of
governments costs, and sure looks like the top 19% are not paying half
of governments costs, until that happens they are NOT paying their fair
share ... a flat tax can fix that ...

Regards,
JS

I already said the tax data is at irs.gov

Now, as for a flat tax I agree with you 100%. The one I advocate is
the FairTax.

On 5/24/2011 9:02 AM, gfn wrote:
On May 24, 11:24 am, John wrote:
On 5/24/2011 8:20 AM, gfn wrote:

...

Where are some credible souces to back up any of that innuendo you keep
attempting to push?

Truth is, sure looks like the wealthiest 1% are not paying 42% of all of
governments costs, and sure looks like the top 19% are not paying half
of governments costs, until that happens they are NOT paying their fair
share ... a flat tax can fix that ...

Regards,
JS
I already said the tax data is at irs.gov

Now, as for a flat tax I agree with you 100%. The one I advocate is
the FairTax.

Let me put this more bluntly. If I buy and item and pay 7% sales tax,
the top one percent should buy an item and pay a 42.7% sales tax, that
way they will be contributing their fair share to run government ...

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote in
:

On 5/24/2011 9:02 AM, gfn wrote:
On May 24, 11:24 am, John wrote:
On 5/24/2011 8:20 AM, gfn wrote:

...

Where are some credible souces to back up any of that innuendo you
keep attempting to push?

Truth is, sure looks like the wealthiest 1% are not paying 42% of
all of governments costs, and sure looks like the top 19% are not
paying half of governments costs, until that happens they are NOT
paying their fair share ... a flat tax can fix that ...

Regards,
JS
I already said the tax data is at irs.gov

Now, as for a flat tax I agree with you 100%. The one I advocate is
the FairTax.

Let me put this more bluntly. If I buy and item and pay 7% sales tax,
the top one percent should buy an item and pay a 42.7% sales tax, that
way they will be contributing their fair share to run government ...

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html

And how do you know that at the time of purchase?

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If you woke up this morning....
Don't complain.

On 5/24/2011 10:24 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
John wrote in
:

On 5/24/2011 9:02 AM, gfn wrote:
On May 24, 11:24 am, John wrote:
On 5/24/2011 8:20 AM, gfn wrote:

...

Where are some credible souces to back up any of that innuendo you
keep attempting to push?

Truth is, sure looks like the wealthiest 1% are not paying 42% of
all of governments costs, and sure looks like the top 19% are not
paying half of governments costs, until that happens they are NOT
paying their fair share ... a flat tax can fix that ...

Regards,
JS
I already said the tax data is at irs.gov

Now, as for a flat tax I agree with you 100%. The one I advocate is
the FairTax.
Let me put this more bluntly. If I buy and item and pay 7% sales tax,
the top one percent should buy an item and pay a 42.7% sales tax, that
way they will be contributing their fair share to run government ...

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html
And how do you know that at the time of purchase?

You set up a system which handles it ... where they pay their fair share
of the cost of government.

Regards,
JS

On May 24, 12:07*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 5/24/2011 9:02 AM, gfn wrote:









On May 24, 11:24 am, John *wrote:
On 5/24/2011 8:20 AM, gfn wrote:

* *...

Where are some credible souces to back up any of that innuendo you keep
attempting to push?

Truth is, sure looks like the wealthiest 1% are not paying 42% of all of
governments costs, and sure looks like the top 19% are not paying half
of governments costs, until that happens they are NOT paying their fair
share ... a flat tax can fix that ...

Regards,
JS
I already said the tax data is at irs.gov

Now, as for a flat tax I agree with you 100%. *The one I advocate is
the FairTax.

Let me put this more bluntly. *If I buy and item and pay 7% sales tax,
the top one percent should buy an item and pay a 42.7% sales tax, that
way they will be contributing their fair share to run government ...


Impossible to implement.

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html

Regards,
JS

On 5/24/2011 10:45 AM, gfn wrote:
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Impossible to implement.

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html

Regards,
JS

Yeah, a lot of things are "impossible", up until someone does it ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote in :

On 5/24/2011 9:02 AM, gfn wrote:
On May 24, 11:24 am, John wrote:
On 5/24/2011 8:20 AM, gfn wrote:

...

Where are some credible souces to back up any of that innuendo you keep
attempting to push?

Truth is, sure looks like the wealthiest 1% are not paying 42% of all
of
governments costs, and sure looks like the top 19% are not paying half
of governments costs, until that happens they are NOT paying their fair
share ... a flat tax can fix that ...

Regards,
JS
I already said the tax data is at irs.gov

Now, as for a flat tax I agree with you 100%. The one I advocate is
the FairTax.

Let me put this more bluntly. If I buy and item and pay 7% sales tax,
the top one percent should buy an item and pay a 42.7% sales tax, that
way they will be contributing their fair share to run government ...

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html

Regards,
JS



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